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Satanic Temple Loses Libel Lawsuit
From a 2021 decision by Judge Richard Jones (W.D. Wash.) in United Federation of Churches, LLC d/b/a The Satanic Temple v. Johnson, just reaffirmed yesterday on denial of a motion for reconsideration:
[According to the Complaint,] Plaintiff United Federation of Churches, LLC ("The Satanic Temple") is a religious organization. As such, its mission is to "encourage benevolence and empathy among all people, reject tyrannical authority, advocate practical common sense and justice, and be directed by the human conscience to undertake noble pursuits guided by the individual will." To that end, it espouses "seven fundamental tenets." Among them are beliefs such as, "[o]ne's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone," and "[o]ne should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs."
Two former members posted material "suggest[ing] that the Washington Chapter [of the Temple] had supported 'ableism, misogyny, and racism,' transphobia, and police brutality" and levying allegedly "false claims that [The Satanic Temple] leadership is cozy with the alt-right, are white supremacists, [and] are generally insufficiently leftist." The Temple sued for libel, but the court dismissed the claim:
The First Amendment limits the role of civil courts in resolving "religious controversies that incidentally affect civil rights." Known in this circuit as the "doctrine of ecclesiastical abstention," the doctrine maintains that "civil courts may not [ ]determine the correctness of an interpretation of canonical text or some decision relating to government of the religious polity." …
This claim asserts that certain Defendants made false public statements about The Satanic Temple, a religious organization…. [But t]he Court may not resolve the defamation claim without delving into doctrinal matters. To determine whether Defendants' statements were defamatory, the Court or jury must inevitably determine that the statements were false. That would require the Court or jury to define the beliefs held by The Satanic Temple and to determine that ableism, misogyny, racism, fascism, and transphobia fall outside those beliefs. That the Court cannot do without violating the First Amendment….
I'm not sure that this is right, given that the claims weren't about the true meaning of religious doctrine, but rather about the alleged actions of the group's leaders—it seems to me that such claims could be decided without considering doctrine (though perhaps they wouldn't be libelous for other reasons, such as that they are opinions). Nonetheless, I wanted to note the decision for our readers.
There were also claims under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, the Washington Consumer Protection Act, and the state law tort of interference with business expectancy, but those were dismissed for other reasons.
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It's actually hilarious that somebody would be surprised at a "Satanic" church being nasty and lying about it. But I was expecting that they'd merely be declared to be a libel proof plaintiff.
Only the Catholic Church should be expected to be nasty and lie about it?
Or an evangelical megachurch?
Why wouldn't Satanists conduct themselves similarly? Are Satanic churches better than other churches?
I'm glad you put Satanic in quotes. There doesn't really seem to be much about Satan related to the church except the name. I don't know how this particular church compares to the LeVay "Church of Satan" but from what I've read the Satanic Temple doesn't have much, if any, connection with any faith or belief in a transcendental being of any kind. I think the name is chosen for it's shock value as opposed to any connection to actual Satan worship.
Maybe. Or maybe, that's what they want you to believe.
😉
"false claims that [The Satanic Temple] leadership is cozy with the alt-right, are white supremacists, [and] are generally insufficiently leftist."
Being cozy with the alt-right and insufficiently leftist aren't really libelous claims, unless the person/organization has built a brand on specifically not being those things. I think analyzing that would require digging into the religious doctrine of the church though
Not really because the claim is that the leadership "is cozy...". There is no need to evaluate church doctrine, just look at the behavior of whatever humans the plaintiff considers "leadership". If they personally "are cozy", the claim is true; if they are not cozy, the claim is false - in both cases without regard for doctrine.
Simply being false doesn't make it libel though, it also has to be damaging to their reputation. To determine whether being insufficiently leftist is damaging to one's reputation as a church leader, you would first have to determine whether church doctrine requires one to be sufficiently left of center
No because it can be damaging to their reputation as private citizens, again regardless of their position as church leaders. Whether they can prove damage is a tough question but it should not have been simply dismissed. Doctrine does not need to enter into it.
Agreed with Rossami. This is a bizarre and terrible decision. I am not a fan of defamation suits in general, but ...
If this decision is correct (it's not), then you effectively lose the right to bring a defamation suit when someone accuses your religious organization of doing an actual something it didn't do.
Here's the difference (PLEASE NOT THAT THE SECOND EXAMPLE IS HYPOTHETICAL)-
1. I think that that Catholic doctrine allows abortions.
(Whether that's true or not, Courts can't get involved, because that's an interpretation of Catholic doctrine).
2. The Archdiocese of Boston, through its leadership, not only encourages abortions, but is the largest funding source of Planned Parenthood and trains nuns to facilitate abortions on all of the Church's property.
Number two doesn't require understanding Church doctrine- only the truth or falsity of the statements.
Here, whether or not the leadership of the Washington Chapter of the Satanic Temple are, inter alia, white supremacists seems like a factual determination that has nothing to do with whether or not this religion is pro- or anti- white supremacy (or has anything about it).
Except that for number 2, as a false statement, to be damaging to the reputation of the Archdiocese of Boston, requires analysis of whether Catholic Doctrine should encourage or discourage abortion (or be neutral on the subject)
Again, they did not sue as private individuals, they sued as the church, so any damage to reputation must be to the church's reputation, not the individuals because the individuals are not themselves plaintiffs
" requires analysis of whether Catholic Doctrine should encourage or discourage abortion (or be neutral on the subject)"
Why would it?
How about-
" The Archdiocese of Boston, through its leadership, not only encourages white supremacy, but is the largest funding source of Stormfront and trains its Clergy to discriminate against non-whites."
How about-
The Archdiocese of Boston, through its leadership, not only encourages embezzlement, but is the largest funding source of covert training programs for white collar crime and helps facilitate people facing indictment for white-collar crimes to leave the country to places without extradition treaties with the United States.
Because embezzlement is objectively a crime, supporting abortion is not. One's reputation can only be damaged by claims of supporting abortion if the reputation requires they not support it, and since you are still putting forward the church organization (Archdiocese of Boston) as the hypothetical plaintiff you can't separate their reputation from adherence to church doctrine
So what if I were to say Massachusetts Citizens For Life (an anti-abortion advocacy group) through its leadership, not only encourages abortions, but is the largest funding source of Planned Parenthood and trains interns to facilitate abortions. The claim of reputation damage is only relevant in the context of the organization being explicitly anti-abortion. So in the church case you have to analyze what the church's stance should be in the issue, which requires analysis of the church doctrine.
I'll notice that (1) you are conflating the per se standard of a crime with an example that explicitly did not accuse them of committing the crime (I was being weaselly for a reason); and (2) you notably ducked the example I used that was EXACTLY ON POINT to the one in the instant case.
That said, I think we are getting somewhere. What you are trying to say (poorly) is that this goes to the fourth element of a defamation claim in Washington (I assumed we are applying the law of the jurisdiction)- damages.
In other words, you are asserting that unless it is a per se claim, that damages can ONLY be determined in relation to the beliefs of the person being libeled. In other words, to use an individual example-
Joe likes beating up women. He thinks it is awesome! Now, other people don't know that. This is not known in the community. And Joe has never done that.
Paul says that Joe beat up a women.
You would say that Joe cannot recover damages because Paul's claim, while false, did not defame Joe because Joe had beliefs.
I would say ... that's not how damages are calculated.
(Contrast this with the "libel-proof" plaintiff- and again, think of the measure of damages ....)
So, why are we analyzing church doctrine?
"No because it can be damaging to their reputation as private citizens, again regardless of their position as church leaders. "
Then they should have sued as private citizens, rather than as the church organization
"Then they should have sued as private citizens, rather than as the church organization"
Fascinating.
So what you're saying is that corporations and other legal entities are not able to sue for defamation?
Or just religious organizations?
Nice straw man there. I'm saying the person or organization that is suffering the damage to reputation must be the one bringing the suit. If the church leaders are suffering damage to their individual reputations outside of the church, they should have sued as individuals, not as the church.
As for churches, determining whether a reputation is damaged must not rely on analysis of the church's doctrine. To take your earlier example of embezzlement, that is objectively illegal so a church could bring a libel suit based on false claims of embezzlement. Abortion is not illegal, so determining damage to reputation for those claims requires knowing whether organizational doctrine requires them to oppose abortion.
Not even. Do we do an in-depth analysis of a corporation's reason for being AT THE MOTION TO DISMISS STAGE to determine the damages element?
Please cite for the case that you're using for damages. The reason the case posted above is so interesting (and EV posted it) is because it doesn't make much sense. Again, imagine a church doctrine that allowed embezzlement. Or white supremacy. Or child abuse. Or didn't. Anything is possible if you're allowed to punt at this stage, which would effectively bar all defamation claims ... because (all together now) this isn't how defamation law works.
No you don't. You just have to determine whether a considerable and respectable group of people would think less of the plaintiff if they came to believe the defendant's statement. Maybe the reason the considerable and respectable group thinks less of the plaintiff is a perceived inconsistency with church doctrine, but they could be dead wrong about that and, as long as they still think less of the plaintiff, it's still defamatory. And the court doesn't have to decide whether there is an actual inconsistency or not.
ding ding ding
As I just wrote, dignitary torts are about reputation. This is such a strange decision.
...even stranger when you see the cases that are cited by the Court. The only thing I can think is that the judge just ... well, Article III judges, you know?
Another yawner, best comment from another article, the Whitmer fed-napping trial, in regards to the lack of Reason coverage of J6.
JesseAz
April.13.2022 at 10:10 am
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Yes. They passively wrote on the one case the judge decided while ignoring all the civil abuses for the other 700 arrested. They have zero articles on 52 month plea agreements for non violent acts. They have zero articles on 15 months of solitary confinement. They have zero articles on 8 months of no pre trial action. They have zero articles on treatments in D.C. jails
Your get on them just shows you are a leftist who ignores 99% of the bad as long as you can say you pointed to 1%.
It is pathetic.
Professor why won't you write about it even if you agree with how the J6 defendants have been treated?
When wreckinball whines (with plenty of falsehood, naturally), the world is a better place.
Carry on, clingers.
You need another schtick, yawn.
Why change something that has been winning in America for more than a half-century?
A lot longer than that, though much hair pulling along the way.
"Another yawner,"
Oh noes! The VC actually discussing ... you know, what most courts are doing. With interesting legal issues.
As opposed to setting up another dumpster fire thread where we can see how many commenters are going to start yawping about grooming like some kind of sick Pavlovian dog.
The horror. Maybe someday this place will get back to legitimate legal commentary; you know, the kind of place where practitoners and law students and clerks and professors and reasonably intelligent lay people would discuss legal issues.
Naw. That's as likely as Orin Kerr posting as often as he used to.
Yeah, really boring stuff. The Satanic Temple crisis!
I know violation of civil liberties is no way no how a libertarian concern here at Reason. Thanks for clarifying.
I just wondered is the Professor allowed to write about it or not?
This really has nothing to do with the Satanic Temple and is more about the interesting question of how a dignitary tort (defamation) is being re-characterized as, for whatever reason, not involving reputation, but involving intent of the entity being defamed.
Kind of weird. But you know, doesn't get the blood all angered up like other things, does it? To answer your question, maybe your issue du jour (which constantly changes) just isn't that interesting, and you can find other places to caterwaul about it?
Yawn
"Yawn"
Compared to QAnon, stolen election kookery, childish superstition, and birtherism, the reality-based world must seem quite boring to clingers.
" I just wondered is the Professor allowed to write about it or not? "
You figure that if UCLA, or Georgetown, or anyone else had any influence (let alone control) concerning what the Volokh Conspirators write this blog would be the flaming shitstorm it has become?
wreckinball and Brett Bellmore should establish the Church Of Perpetual Conspiracy Theory, Divine Delusion, And White Male Grievance. They would earn a tidy sum from this blog's commenters alone.
Wow, once you veer off you're cut and paste responses it gets even more psychotic
Who could be controlling the Volokh Conspirators, in your judgment, wreckinball?
You remind me of a guy who attends a Ron Paul rally and, after a couple of hours immersed in the delusion at the fringe, starts feeling somewhat normal and forgets he is a marginalized, irrelevant misfit.
Sounds like they will have a devil of a time making their case on appeal as well...
Well, someone did try suing Satan once . . .
https://cite.case.law/frd/54/282/
The plaintiff couldn't find a lawyer, because all the lawyers were already on ther other side.
...is what a kneejerk populist would say...and wouldn't it be totally wrong if he said that?
So, for those interested, the two cases the Court cited for abstention actually apply the doctrine correctly.
Kavanagh v. Zwilling, 997 F. Supp. 2d 241 (SDNY 2014) would have required the court "to review and interpret two lengthy canonical court decisions, understand and assess the meaning of sexual abuse of a minor under canon law, determine what constitutes a 'delict' under church doctrine, and finally, resolve whether the canonical courts did in fact convict Kavanagh of multiple counts of sexual abuse of a minor as defined by canon law."
In other words, the libel claim was predicated on analyzing (and proclaiming the truth or fasity) of church decisions, and understanding what offenses meant under Catholic law.
In Hyung Jin Moon v. Hak Ja Han Moon, 431 F. Supp. 3d 394 (SDNY 2019), abstention was appropriate because the alleged defamatory claims involved succession within the Church- the court cannot evaluate who the "leader" of a church is, and therefor cannot determine if a statement saying X is the leader is defamatory.
Notably, both these cases are careful to note how limited ecclesiastical abstention is.
Here, you can treat the Satanic church like any other organization. Would accusing the leaders of X organization of being, inter alia, white supremacists be defamatory? Well, certain enough to survive a motion to dismiss.
The court is incorrect. (I would note that the Court uses the weaselly "no new facts or legal authority" in the motion for reconsideration as the standard. But this is a bad decision. I hope it is appealed and overturned.)
I mean, I'm not admitted in the Western District of Washington (or the Eastern, Central, Northern, Southern, or Northeast Middle Districts of Washington), but that's the normal standard for reconsideration everywhere I'm familiar with. You're almost never going to get a judge to say, "Yeah, I probably screwed up that analysis." It's not a substitute for appeal.
Oh, I agree on the standard! Heck, I love me that standard since I'm usually opposing those motions. This is the rare manifest error.
But ... that's some serious going through ... uh ... the motions. 😉
Clerk: "Satanic Temple versus..."
Judge: "I find for the defendant"
Pretty funny, but they've actually got a pretty good track record of success in litigation IIRC.
Yes I know but I couldn't resist 🙂
Eh, it was totally worth it. 😉
@loki13 - you did not recall correctly
https://the.satanic.wiki/index.php/The_Satanic_Temple#Lawsuits
Back when the ACLU and Freedom From Religion Foundation were still working with The Satanic Temple, the whole strategy may have looked promising once. But since the Temple has taken over its own lawsuits in 2015, their only victory is an apparently favorable settlement from Netflix/Warner Bros. over the Baphomet statue in "The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina"; even counting that, we can find more instances of courts sanctioning TST than giving them victories at any level, state, federal, or appeal.
I did not know that! Thank you.
TBH, I only knew of their early litigation, and had some vague recollection of the Sabrina lawsuit.
Seems like they might want to ... rethink their litigation team.
Irrelevant point of trivia - the judge is Quincy Jones's half-brother.
That's pretty cool trivia!
(Still a terrible decision)
If you think Judge Jones' decision is bad, wait until you see what his brother has been up to.
And there is more!
"false claims that [The Satanic Temple] leadership is cozy with the alt-right, are white supremacists, [and] are generally insufficiently leftist."
That set of things... it's like being accused of rape, murder, and jay-walking.
(Also, what does 'insufficiently leftist' even possibly mean in that context? Assuming typical stupid american political discourse, being white supremacist would mean a lot more than just 'insufficiently' leftist).
Given that alt-right is anything to the right of Mao; White Supremacy is literally anything that brings coherence, civility or progress to society and being sufficiently leftist is the inversion of the prior two it is hard to see your analogy as lining up item for item.
I am fairly certain the Satanic Temple will appeal the ruling stating ecclesiastical abstention is not proper in the case because they are not a religious organization.
If it had gone to a jury, and they'd gotten the jurors from The Devil and Daniel Webster, maybe they'd have had better luck.
Dance with the devil and he leads...
The plaintiffs and the defendant should settle matters with a fiddle-playing contest.