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The Nones and the Religion Clauses
Two new empirical studies on the influence of Nones in law and religion cases
One of the most discussed trends in American religion at the start of the 21st Century is the so-called "Rise of the Nones," the sharp increase, since the 1990s, in the percentage of Americans who tell pollsters they have no religious affiliation. Depending on the study, Nones now make up about a quarter to a third of Americans, up from something like six percent a generation ago. The category is quite broad, comprising militant secularists, atheists, agnostics, and the "spiritual but not religious"—persons who reject formal religious affiliation but nonetheless believe in some supernatural power or powers. Often, Nones mix and match elements of different traditions to come up with their own, DIY forms of religion—what one scholar has referred to as a kind of spiritual "bricolage."
A couple of fascinating new articles by law professors Gregory Sisk (St. Thomas) and Michael Heise (Cornell), available here and here, shed light on the ways Nones have started to influence religion cases in the federal courts. For years, Sisk and Heise have done empirical research on the effect of religious affiliations—the judges' and the parties'—in such cases. Their new articles contain some surprising, and some not so surprising, observations about the growing impact of the Nones.
First, the not-so-surprising: just as the percentage of Nones in the general population has increased over the past few decades, so has the percentage of Nones among federal judges. The percentage of Nones among judges in Sisk and Heise's current study, which covers the years 2006-2015, is 11.5%, double the percentage in their first study, which covered the years 1986-1995. Nones are more likely to have been appointed to the bench by Democratic presidents (though Sisk and Heise point out that Nones also number among GOP-appointed judges), which is to be expected, given the comparatively prominent role secular Americans have in the Democratic Party.
In addition, although Sisk and Heise didn't observe a large effect in their study, Nones on the bench appear comparatively hostile to religious accommodations under the Free Exercise Clause. Perhaps Nones, who reject traditional religion, object to such accommodations as a form of special pleading, especially because—and this a final, unsurprising observation—Nones are comparatively unsuccessful when they themselves seek such accommodations in the courts. Nones have a success rate of 25% in such cases, Sisk and Heise report, while claimants from traditional religions have a success rate of 39%.
Now for the surprising observation. One might expect judges who reject organized religion to favor Establishment Clause claims. For example, one might expect such judges to rule that public displays of religion violate the separation of church and state. But that is not what Sisk and Heise found. In fact, they report, Nones on the bench are significantly less likely than religiously affiliated judges to favor Establishment Clause claims. "Holding other variables constant," they write, "the predicted probability that a judge without a religious affiliation would approve an Establishment Clause challenge was 24.9 percent," while judges "with a religious affiliation approved such claims at a 40.0 percent rate."
What might judges who are Nones view Free Exercise and Establishment Clause claims differently? Sisk and Heise believe that Nones, who are detached generally from organized religion, may be more or less indifferent to public displays of religiosity. Recall that many Nones do not reject religion as such and even adopt elements of traditional faiths as their own. But Nones are very concerned about enforcing non-discrimination laws, which of course have been the focal point for many recent controversies regarding religious accommodations.
This is only one study, of course. But Sisk and Heise's observations are worth considering. A few years ago, I predicted that the rise of the Nones would portend sharp controversies in our culture and our law. I still think that's likely to be the case with respect to religious accommodations, and Sisk and Heise's data seem to bear that out. But, if Sisk and Heise are right, the effect of the Nones on Establishment Clause conflicts may be more irenic. We'll see.
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I'd suggest that many of the people who say they don't have a religious affiliation do have the values of the culture they grew up in, whether Christian, Jewish or some other culture with a religious affiliation.
I personally know a lot of self professed atheists whose ethical beliefs and practices closely track mainstream Christian beliefs and practices.
I'm kind of a none at the moment. I'm not an atheist. I was raised in a Christian household. I didn't lose my faith in God, but I lost faith in Organized religion.
The organized churches aren't run by God, they are run by men.
I know someone who used to be a priest. But he transitioned, and is now a None.
Do I understand correctly? I give you money now. I will be rewarded after my death. Best scam ever. Immunized by the lawyer, along with that other scam, the Free Press.
God has forsaken me…but I am considering converting to Islam because as a white man in Ameriduh I am held in the lowest esteem and there are two ways for a white man to get into a protected class—convert to Islam or chop off your balls.
You do not have to do either. Just identify as such on your application.
Or, if it's easier for you, just whine about how oppressed you are as a straight white dude.
I think this is true. I gave up a belief in God many years again but still identify culturally as Irish Catholic.
If you ask a question about religious affiliation many people will think some specific organisation. If you ask a persons religion I suspect many more people will give a generic answer.
If you asked me about religious affiliation I would answer "none".
If you asked about my religion I'd either not answer or answer "christian" depending on my mood.
I've been an firm atheist since I was an adolescent, and I am very supportive of religious rights for the religious.
For instance telling people they can't worship during a pandemic is abhorrent, besides being unconstitutional. A lot of atheists believe that since there is no such thing as religion it doesn't make sense to accommodate it. But they'd be singing a different tune if say approaching comet caused a religious revival and church attendance became mandatory.
That was literally the worst aspect = For instance telling people they can't worship during a pandemic is abhorrent, besides being unconstitutional.
We could not form a minyan. We could not say Mourners Kaddish. We could not sit shiva. We could not mourn our dead, ritually. For that, I will never forgive the terrible politicians who made that happen.
Yeah, blame the politicians who responded to the existence of the pandemic, not the Deity who set it upon us.
Kaz. Very close to my views.
The Creator was DNA with its propensity to duplicate. It does not care if you are a cockroach or a dinosaur. It will do so.
I agree with Weber, religious societies are prosperous. So I support religion for others. It is 10 times more effective at getting people to treat each other nicely as the law and government. We are still reaping $5 Billion in tourism from the Pyramids, which were religious monuments. American society is more religious than secular Europe, and we make more money.
As to Creation of the universe, our chance of understanding it is the same as the chance of an ant's understanding Gauss's Optics formulas. We will have to CRISPR our kids to make them smarter than Einstein, and do that 10 times over to approach the ability to understand Origins.
I am a none, but if God or Jesus or whatever shows up on earth I’m gonna smack him upside his head.
Funny thing... if Jesus showed up today, he'd be rejected by a substantial number of "Christians", because he'd be against the death penalty, in favor of allowing Muslim terrorists to come to the USA, against firearm possession, and in favor of paying taxes for welfare.
I'd be interested in your scriptural basis for at least those last couple of points.
You need Scriptural support for the thesis that Jesus would tell his followers to pay their taxes, or that he favored having his followers provide support for widows and orphans? May I suggest THE NEW TESTAMENT?
Relatively predictable developments in America suggest proponents and defenders of religion should wish to establish legal and practical standards they would be comfortable residing on either side of.
Let me see, which definition of religion are you advancing?
Presumably not Carroll's and Witherspoon's Catholicism and Presbyterianism.
So maybe you are more into Jefferson and Adams' Unitarianism?
Or the Deism of Paine and Ethan Allen?
Or do you think those folks simply did not go far enough, and that atheism is the true faith?
In the first sentence, I ought to have said "opposing" instead of advancing, oh well, not that attempting logical argument would do any good.
Oh, never mind, just forget I asked.
Gladly
I'd be curious how the different categories of "Nones" have grown (or not) over time, and whether the research findings are consistent among those subcategories.
People are still as fanatical today as they were 1000s of years ago and they still have their little bickering cults. Its just that instead of getting fanatical about the ten commandments, loving thy neighbor, and the nature of the divine as a member of the Sol Invictus, Zeus, or thor denomination they get fanatical about gender neutral bathrooms, saving the sea slugs, and misgendering as a member of the social justice, blm, and eco denomination.
The division between these religious creeds and 'nonreligious' creeds is in many ways artificial. Almost everybody is still 'religious' in their own way.
As I have been saying for 30 years, swap "for God" with "For the People", and "after you die" with "after my 5 year plan", and they're identical from a power hungry person's power grabs.
Which they use depends on which century. The only constant is, "Hey, [A from above], so authorize me the power to crack the [small internal group] over the head, and I'll make your [B from above] better. I promise!"
There. Now people are as woke as they possibly can be, until arch end program.
I think it’s a fair statement that power hungry people will do what power hungry people do. I don’t think it’s a fair comparison to compare “the empirical scientific data shows it would be good policy to do XYZ” to “my sky fairy wants us to do XYZ.”
How about sex is a delusion and men and women are identical down to the last quark and if you disagree we'll get you fired and destroy your life?
I don't think you'll find many takers for your sex delusion(s).
Amos, if you find someone who actually believes that let us know.
sure thing
https://tinyurl.com/2p9d6tb8
Where in any of those links did anyone say that sex is a delusion and men and women are identical down to the last quark?
The "growinguptransgender' link says 'sex is a social construct' and I will also bet you many in the other links would echo this
Social construct, and delusion, do not mean the same thing. Traffic lights are a social construct and they’re also very real, as anyone who has ever gotten a ticket for running a red light can tell you.
Traffic lights are physical objects that typically hang from cables over intersections. Perhaps you mean traffic laws?
Brett, which part of "they're very real" led you to believe that Krychek didn't know that traffic lights are real objects?
"Where in any of those links did anyone say that sex is a delusion and men and women are identical down to the last quark?"
Amos is the one who says that.
AmosArch, do you agree that when, "these religious creeds," go wrong they seem to induce more pride, self-confidence and assertiveness among their believers? I am guessing that same tendency among the non-religious is the point of comparison on which you posit an identity between them.
First it should be noted that Nones are not atheist but rather people who distance themselves for organized religion. Because of this they may be less inclined to accept people who want to bring their organized religions to the public square. Believing instead that religion is a private matter as best left that way.
I am an atheist. I have no problem with anyone religious beliefs so long as they refrain from insisting on special public accommodations. I appreciate those religious that work for the public good but have little patience for those that claim a right to act badly towards others.
That's what one would expect, but if I'm reading the article correctly that's not what is happening.
If you don’t go to Catholic church, at least, you might not realize that Catholic Establishment Clause claims pushed by the hierarchy are actually Culture War bullshit because few of us agree with the “official” positions on (for example) contraception.
It's not their position, of course, but rather God's position. And they're happy to deliver the news of what God wants YOU to do (or not do).
So a little over 10% of judges are "members" of the fastest growing "creed" in the US, who account for about 30% of the population.
Meanwhile, approximately zero percent of elected officials are Nones, at least not publicly.
Not to go all "identity politics" on everyone, but is there something wrong with this picture?
//abandoned superstition and magical thinking a long time ago, so count me as a None.
Nope, nothing wrong with this picture. Current judges will, at best, reflect the distribution of the population a decade or more earlier, because judges tend to be older than the general population.
And, of course elected officials tend to, at least publicly, represent the majority, rather than be a representative sample of the population.
Judges, selected by the elected, would similarly be more like the majority than representative, were it not for that "at least publicly".
Bellmore, national leaders in all fields tend to be older than the general population. My guess would that if you did the work to prove it, you might find judges begin their careers at an age comparable to, or even younger than, comparably influential politicians. Nobody is president for more than 8 years. Judges sit far longer than that. That is where the lag comes from.
So, how are we in disagreement? I said that "judges tend to be older than the general population".
Elected officials have to kowtow to the majority in the population to get elected, which tends to filter out at least public expression of minority viewpoints. So they over-represent, publicly anyway, majority views.
And judges, selected by elected officials, would, too, if the elected officials reliably actually held the views they profess in order to be elected.
Secularists for as long as they've existed have tended to define themselves in opposition to religion. Defining yourself in opposition to something thats popular among a broad swath of people tends to make you a tougher sell. Its the same reason the doghater party, libertarians, and to a somewhat lesser extent traditional conservatives lose so much. Most people, especially when it comes to religion crave something positive or that seems positive. Thats why after a flirtation with straight atheism, the left eventually settled on social justice as the new dominant state cult. As nonsensical as it is social justice at least is a positive concept on its own that can attempt to fill the void left from abandoning traditional religions.
No I do not define myself in opposition to religion. I disbelieve the existence of gods. I also disbelieve astrology, palm reading, phrenology, weather predictions by groundhogs, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and anything that comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth. But none of that unbelief defines me.
It’s what I do believe that defines me.
Whatever, it doesn't matter what you think in your own mind. As a group throughout history secularists have defined themselves to the outside world as opponents to religion.
Secularists are not a monolithic group. You might find some somewhere who define themselves that way.
But is a stamp collector defined as someone who doesn’t collect coins? Because what you’re trying to do is define people by what they aren’t.
" As nonsensical as it is social justice "
If social justice is nonsensical in your judgment, what is your view of superstition?
Many traditional religions have long taught social justice. Evangelicalism was at one time the one of the predominant drivers of social justice activity.
Once upon a time, it was a fun hobby to get together with your opponents and throw Scriptural references at each other.
"Meanwhile, approximately zero percent of elected officials are Nones, at least not publicly. "
Trump trying out religion publicly was amusing to watch.
Except for one terrifying exposure to religious malpractice, as a 4-year-old, my upbringing was as free from religious involvement as might be possible. Until college, anyway, where I encountered American Puritanism as a historical manifestation. That was fascinating, but there was no conversion experience. No religious engagement of my own resulted.
By contrast, I have had a lifelong, emotionally important engagement with the natural world which has only grown, year-by-year, observation-by-observation, and reflection-by-reflection. That has delivered me to belief that demonstrable natural principles prove a reality so enormous, so complex, so subtle, so utterly beyond human control, that the sum of it must be received as miraculous, instead of as comprehensible. I take that to be an insight comparable to the faith of the religious. But because insight is not faith, I reject claims to call it religion.
If the religious experienced the humility which the natural world inspires in me, I doubt controversies at law on the subject of religion would amount to much. But if I had a button I could push to induce natural insight in everyone, I would push it instantly, with all the zealous confidence of a religionist demanding conversions.
Like the religionist, I would expect the results to include vastly greater humility among the converts. After that, I doubt controversies at law on the subject of the natural world would amount to much.
The main problem of and for the religious evangelist is that they find your lack of following their choice of religious practice as an attack on it, and they are insecure about their own when faced with your lack of their faith.
Nice bit of projection there, would you like to tell any other groups of people all about themselves?
Did I get a little bit to close to home for you, there?
The most significant of the "Nones" is very likely the "None of your business" variety.
When these people are asked about their religious affiliation, rather than claiming to have none at all, they're saying they have none that are of your concern.
I'm certainly in that choir
James,
That might be correct. But your thesis does not explain why there's a huge increase in the percentage of "Nones." Unless the change is due to some new reluctance to be forthcoming with pollsters on this issue. I haven't seen any data supporting this...but I'd be interested in reading it, if others are aware of such data.
Why couldn't the apparent change be due to a new readiness to be forthcoming with pollsters?
"Why couldn't the apparent change be due to a new readiness to be forthcoming with pollsters?"
Because answering "none of your business" isn't a sign of readiness to be forthcoming with pollsters, really. More the opposite.
"I decline to be associated with any of those groups" is not the way you tell a pollster which of the groups you are a member of.
" your thesis does not explain why there's a huge increase in the percentage of "Nones." "
It does, as various "religious" political groups stake out positions that are at odds with various peoples' actual positions on issues. "well, I'm certainly not one of THEM..." repeatedly for multiple values of "THEM". Organized religion is about finding ways to tell people what to think and believe.
I've no objection whatsoever who claim that their religious beliefs place restrictions on their freedom of action, and act accordingly.
It's the ones who think that their religious beliefs allow them to place restrictions on other people (say, for example, me) that get on my nerves when they overreach. Especially when they complain that not being allowed to tell me what to do (or not do) is an infringement of their right to religious freedom.
Many militant secularists and atheists are just as fanatical about their beliefs as the most devout religionists. Maybe more.
... and they aren't allowed to have strong opinions built on their personal beliefs?
An excellent resource: Strange Rites: New Religions for a Godless World, by Tara Isabella Burton (New York: Public Affairs, 2020).
Burton indicates that it's not that people are becoming more secular in the standard sense, and they're certainly not becoming more rational - they're just more likely to adopt non-traditional religions.
Busload of Nones?
Get thee to a none-ery.
Never saw the word "irenic" before. It's a really useful word, and probably worth adding to my vocabulary. Thanks, Mark, for the Word of the Day. 🙂
It's like a traffic jam of peace when you're already late.
Is that when it's combined with old lace or only when it isn't?
There is a great exchange between William F Buckley and some TV interviewer that goes something like this:
WFB: [discussing a sailing trip]... it was very pacific.
Interviewer: I thought you were in the Atlantic?
WFB: I meant in the sense of "irenic."
Interviewer: We'll be right back.
It resembles what you’ll see in your dreams (the name Irene basically means “peace.”)
So, not the ninth Liturgical Hour *nones*.
I think the fundamental problem here is that the Religion Clauses reflect a traditional world where religion represents an external source authority that people feel constrained by. While new religions have always been part of our history, a relatively small number of people have historically been involved in actually creating them.
A world where very large numbers of people simply make things up as they go along and then make religion claims based on it is a relatively new thing. A second new thing is government imposing mandatory requirements at odds with the requirements of traditional religions, making religious conflict much more prominent and frequent than in the days when a few outlier religions got into frequent conflict - the Amish, Orthodox Jews, Quakers, and other traditiknal dissenters were all very small minorities.
In general, I think thst if a reasonably robust interpretation of tbe Free Exercise Clause is to be workable, the new situation requires a strengthening of sincerity claims. In general, I think people need to show that the religious belief came before the rule being challenged, and wasn’t formulated after it.
Otherwise people who don’t come up wifh new religious beliefs against whatever laws they find inconvenient will start being regarded as suckers. The gentleman who responded to a prison confiscation of his porn by deciding that porn was his new scripture and his new religion required regularly viewing it, the Jewish gentlemen who claimed Judiasm requires not just kosher food but fancy meals every Jewish Sabbath and holiday, etc. etc., risk becoming models for the typical religion-clause challenger.
There are enough hucksters and frauds in religion already without the Religion Clauses effectively establishing this forrm of “religion” as the new governmentally-established norm.
ReaderY, your comment seems to have overlooked Unitarianism, which in America was basically a new religion positioned as a transformative successor to the Puritan legacy. Also, the diverse religious progeny of the Great Awakenings have not been negligible. And what about the Mormons? In at least three states they are not small minorities.
Otherwise, I am with you about restricting license to profess as you please, and use that as basis to escape generally applicable laws.
Could you give examples of cases where Unitarians came into major conflict with the law and made religion claims?
Would not that John Calhoun became a Unitarian in no small part because whereas more traditionalist, superstitious, stuck-in-the-mud religions had small-minded, busybodying, hateful, bigoted attitudes towards slavery, the neew enlightened, progressive, ain’t-nobody-else’s-business-if-you do Unitarianism had much more open-tent, liberated, tolerant, indeed welcoming attitudes towards diversity on this subject. Calhoun knew a good thing when he saw it.
As this example illustratrss, Unitarianism when it started was known for the lack of strait-jacketing obligations imposed by other, less morally flexible religions. Will point out that Reform Judaism started in South Carolina and got its first foothold in the antebellum South for not entirely unrelated reasons - traditional Judaism imposed uncomfortable obligations in this matter as well.
Would note.
In general Unitarianism’s tolerance, tolerant even on slavery, seemed designed to reduce the possibility of moral conflict with outside general society rather than to increase it, hence reducing the likelihood religion claims would be necessary to make.
I pretty much agree with your analysis. The religion clauses didn't envision an environment where people were just making it up as they went along, they anticipated primarily the big 3: Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. They weren't expecting people to game those clauses.
But gaming them only became a thing because you needed to appeal to them to get the government off your back, in the first place.
I think religious liberty is such a big deal in the US because the government is too intrusive. If the government were only passing 'generally applicable' laws you'd never consider permitting exemptions from in the first place, what need would there be for religion to get exemptions? You'd just do as you liked, and your motive wouldn't enter into it.
So I'd go the opposite direction: Instead of requiring proof of sincerity, I'd stop demanding that people claim religious motives.
I don't think Islam was envisioned by the Framers. It just wasn't a factor in colonial America. Their concern was varying flavors of Christians and heretics of those flavors.
RI'm pretty sure the framers were aware of Muslims, even if they han't met one. The Crusades were in all the papers.
One man's heritic is another man's prophet.
When were these Crusades against American Muslims held. Wasn't in my local paper.
"In general, I think thst if a reasonably robust interpretation of tbe Free Exercise Clause is to be workable, the new situation requires a strengthening of sincerity claims. In general, I think people need to show that the religious belief came before the rule being challenged, and wasn’t formulated after it. "
Just because I don't want an abortion or a same-sex marriage, doesn't mean I want to be told I can't have one of either because it violates YOUR religious principles.
To make a religion claim, you would have to make out a case that your religion REQUIRES you to have an abortion or a same-sex marriage such that you’d be a serious sinner if you don’t. If it merely permits it, even recommends it, complying with the law doesn’t impose the necessary degree of conflict.
I don’t know of any traditional religion that requires either, at least not (for abortion) in any circumstances that wouldn’t likely represent standard exceptions to abortion statutes. You’d probably have to go to a very recent religion (if not a completely roll-your-own) one to find such a requirement imposed. Sure, there are liberal branches of traditional religions that permit both. But require?
You're trying to tell me how to live within my purely hypothetical religion?
Islam is a pretty good example of someone making it up as he went along. Joseph Smith just updated Muhammad's shtick when he invented Mormonism.
But Mormonism, like Catholicism, is a pretty hierarchical religion. Only a few people at the top are directly involved in transmitting Divine revelation/making things up as they go along (take your pick). Ordinary lay people look to Church leaders as sources of authority. And when they don’t (which is pretty common), it’s almost always to conform more to the mores of the majority in society. This tends to reduce rather than increase the likelihood of conflict between religion and state. It’s rare if ever that the laity takes a religious position that conflicts with both the state and the authorities of the respective religions. And while splinters like the Fundamentalist Mormons (whose religion requires polygamy) exist, they are pretty small minorities.
Islam is similarly based on interpretation of traditional scriptures and codes of law by religious authorities. Whether Mohammed experienced a Divine revelation or made things up, individual Muslims tend not to do either.
"But Mormonism, like Catholicism, is a pretty hierarchical religion."
Mormons, unlike Catholics, have a fundamentalist branch that rejects the hierarchy of the "official" church.
Really? One of the core elements of Islam is a prohibition on killing other Muslims. There are plenty of examples of murders of Muslims by Muslims, so at least some of them are reinterpreting their faith.
Every possible thing anyone might say about God (whatever made up name you use) is just their opinion. Religion, science, philosophy are just words; tools to help us try to make sense of perceptions & understanding of the spirit running underneath everything. Religions are always about power. The Roman Catholic Church has been all about power for more than 1000 years. And is still being a massive bully. It is the arrogance of the orthodox religious people that is so galling. Absolutes with no possible doubts.
I was disappointed to see that a woman's personal beliefs about her relationship with her pregnancy, her life, and her spiritual understanding of that situation was not protected from the religious beliefs of the conservative Christians & their political dogs. The word religion in the text sets it completely apart from personal conscience as a legal place to stand. You would have to claim abortion as a part of your religion to even get in the door. The spiritual understanding offered by organized religion is usually old, thin, and built on myths taken as fact. And is losing in the market of ideas. But they are fighting every step of the way. There will be more & more nones.
The main problem with organized religions is that somebody wants to start telling other people what God wants. There never seems to be any consideration of the possibility that what God wants for YOU is different from what God wants for ME. He told you not to have sex outside of marriage. Fine, you should keep it in your pants. If God wants to tell me that, He will (and not by having you tell me.)
"After deep personal consideration I feel it would be wrong for me to do what the law is demanding" = America says "too bad!"
"A magical book told me it would be wrong for me to do what the law is demanding" = America says "this is a position we really must respect."
I'm an atheist and waffle on how much consideration religious belief interacting with general society should be given.
When it comes to how religious vs. non-religious judges handle Establishment claims I'd want to see how religious judges differ or don't when dealing with Establishment claims from within their own religion. To a non-religious judge, Christian/Hindu/Muslim/etc. practices may all be equally "silly" and so once it is easier to treat them all equally while an Evangelical judge might find it easier to understand Evangelical claims while disregarding Sikh claims.
All just hand waving without data, though the survey result is interesting.
"'A magical book told me it would be wrong for me to do what the law is demanding' = America says 'this is a position we really must respect.'"
Nah. Americans largely ignore the things the magical book tells them to do or to not do. What they demand is adherence to their wild interpretation of what the magical book tells them to do or not to do. There's literally no place in the magical book that says "thou shalt not bake a cake for the same-sex marriage." but it does say not to wear clothes made out of multiple types of fibers or eat food made out of cloven-hoofed animals. Yet the heathens can go down to Wal-Mart and buy cotton-polyester blended t-shirts and go the McD's for a bacon quarter-pounder on the way to the protest against the same-sex marriage.