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Offer Asylum to Russian Soldiers Who Surrender [Updated]
Economist Timur Kuran's excellent idea to bolster Ukraine's defense.

Economist Timur Kuran has an excellent idea for how the US and its European allies can help Ukraine resist Russia at little cost to ourselves:
Don't assume Russian soldiers and officers like what they are doing. Some—we can't know many, because preference falsification is inherently invisible—must be willing to break ranks, if only they have options. Let EU and NATO countries offer asylum to Russian military defectors.
Kuran, author of Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification, is the world's leading expert on "preference falsification" - the effects of situations where people have incentives to misrepresent their true beliefs. And there is good reason to believe that many Russian soldiers indeed would prefer not to be fighting Ukrainians. Political scientist Jason Lyall, an expert on defense issues, has a helpful summary:
Why has Russia struggled? While analysts have mostly focused on hardware and doctrine, many of Russia's problems can be traced to a single source: low morale….
Evidence is mounting that many Russian soldiers are reluctant to fight.
Social media is littered with videos of lost and hungry soldiers looting, begging for food or ditching their tanks and trucks. Captured soldiers have expressed confusion about the war's purpose and have surrendered once they discovered they were not on a training exercise. Hundreds of armored vehicles have been abandoned or captured by Ukrainian forces and, in at least one case, by a local farmer.
Many of Russian equipment losses have been because of abandonment and capture, not destruction. Indeed, dozens of videos of lines of stranded military equipment can be found on TikTok. Russian military authorities have threatened physical abuse or worse to enforce discipline in some units.
The rest of Lyall's article details the causes of many Russian troops' low motivation, and describes ways in which morale problems impede the Russian military's effectiveness.
A shift in incentives from a situation where surrender is likely to mean eventual repatriation to Russia (where they may face disgrace and possible punishment) to one where it means a life of vastly greater freedom and prosperity in the West could significantly increase the number of Russian soldiers who decide to give up. Fear that their subordinates are angling for an opportunity to defect might also sow doubt and distrust in the minds of Russian commanders, thus further undermining morale and effectiveness.
The US and other NATO allies should take up Kuran's idea. And they should publicize the offer of asylum as much as possible, using social media, leaflets dispersed by Ukrainian forces, and any other possible methods of communication. Every Russian soldier should be made aware that surrender means a better life for them in the West.
Yes, there is always the risk that a Russian who surrenders and clams asylum might turn out to be some sort of spy or saboteur planted by the Kremlin. But people given access to classified information or jobs requiring security clearances, must undergo extensive screening, whether they are immigrants or not. And if Vladimir Putin wants to insinuate spies or saboteurs into the US whose job it is to find openly available information or target facilities open to the public, realistically he has many other ways of doing so.
There are several other ways in which the US and its allies can use immigration and refugee policy to combat Putin and and ease the suffering caused by Russia's war of aggression. I plan to write about them in detail soon. For now check out these articles by Robert Zubrin in National Review, and Reason's Fiona Harrigan (here and here).
UPDATE: The Ukrainian government has offered "amnesty" and a payment of five million rubles each (about $48,000) to any Russian soldiers who surrender and turn over their weapons and equipment. Economist Bryan Caplan suggests some ways the European Union can improve this policy, along lines similar to the ones I described above:
On the surface, this sounds like a sweet deal, but on reflection, it's anything but. Put yourself in the shoes of a Russian soldier. First, you have to elude the [Russian] Army, knowing you could be shot for desertion. Then, you have to surrender without getting killed by Ukrainians. After that, you're stuck in prison; maybe they'll deposit you in a regular POW camp, complete with Russian loyalists ready to kill you when the guard's not looking. Wherever you languish, you know your fate hinges on the outcome of the war…
I admire the creativity of the Ukrainian proposal. Enticement to desert should be a standard part of military strategy, but hardly ever is. But let me propose a Version 2.0 to better fulfill the intent of the original offer.
Version 2.0: The EU, in cooperation with Ukraine, offers $100,000 plus EU citizenship to any Russian deserter. Russians can either go directly to the EU, or surrender to Ukrainian forces for speedy transport to the EU border.
The key gain: Deserters no longer have to gamble on Ukrainian success. As long as they escape from the Red Army's zone of control, they survive. A much better gamble.
Extra benefits: Instead of going to a Ukrainian prison or POW camp, you get to enjoy freedom in the EU. And the EU is far more likely to swiftly hand over the promised monetary bounty.
How much of a burden is this on the EU? Chump change, really. Even in a magical scenario where all of the roughly 200,000 Russian troops in the vicinity take the deal, $100,000 per soldier is a mere $20 billion. That's less than one-fifth of what Germany now plans to spend on defense in 2022 alone. It wouldn't be crazy to go up to $1,000,000 per deserter. You could even do a classic multi-tier offer, where the first 10,000 deserters get a million bucks each to compensate for the high initial risk, followed by lower payments for late-leavers who get to desert in comparative safety.
The Ukrainian offer is actually a bit better than Bryan suggests. It includes "amnesty" for those who surrender, which suggests they will not have to languish in a prison or POW camp. Still, their ultimate fate could easily include repatriation to Russia, where they might face punishment. Alternatively, they would stay in Ukraine, where they could potentially be captured by Russian forces, depending on how the war goes. Bryan's idea improves on the Ukrainian policy. And the payment idea - as developed by the Ukrainians and Bryan - improves on my own and Timur Kuran's proposal for asylum, but without payments.
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Eirreeily similar tom1939/1940 Finland
Really bad start they will likely get corrected
Why does the lawyer scumbag believe in war, in which large numbers of peasants and working people are killed? Those wars cost $billions and enlarge government, a wholly owned subsidiary of the lawyer profession.
If war doctrine shifted to killing heads of state and all oligarchs behind them along with their families down to the last kitten, the cost would be $millions. In addition, future wars would be deterred.
Sovereign immunity is an obscene abomination. All lawyers expounding it should be arrested, tried for treason, and summarily executed on the spot. Put a $billion bounty on the scalp of the head of the enemy aggressor.
While many of the setbacks we've seen Russian forces suffer thus far are matters of competence, I agree that many are matters of morale. Getting Russians riled up against their cousins in Ukraine was always going to be a hard sell. While I don't doubt Putin's propaganda machine could have done it, it seems like his desire to obscure his intentions until the last minute and to continue to deny that this is a war rather than a 'special military operation' may have severely undercut morale among Russian forces. Reportedly, at least some units didn't clearly understand that this was an actual shooting war, or that they were even being sent into Ukraine. Recently, I've been reading a book about the 75th Ranger Regiment and I can't help but contrast the immense sense of purpose those guys carried into Afghanistan post-9/11 with the distinct lack of it among Russian forces in Ukraine.
Lying is second-nature to politicians everywhere, but much worse for dictators.
I really like this idea of asylum for Russian defectors, partly just because it turns POW status on its head -- if the defectors get asylum elsewhere, especially if the Ukrainians can arrange plausible deniability for any involvement, Russia can't demand to get them back. Well, they can, and Putin sounds like just the kind of jerk to keep Ukrainian POWs as hostages for years, but I like the notion.
Drop leaflets by the millions. Put up billboards on the invasion routes.
It's hard to know how many Russian soldiers will accept the offer, but it's a no-lose proposition which costs almost nothing and might have substantial benefits.
Putin appears to have drank his own Kool-aid: He believed the Russian media's propaganda, and thought the Ukranians would offer little resistance. But Russia has 6,257 nuclear warheads, and Putin has control over whether they will be used; we need to be careful not to get pulled too far into this conflict, as awful as it is.
I assume the vast majority of Russia's soldiers have families and would endanger those families by deserting the Russian military. So there would be few, if any, takers regarding such an asylum offer.
So it seems that economists probably should not recommend military strategy or tactics.
Yeah ... I don't see how this works. Many of the Russian soldiers still want to go home, even if they don't like their current job.
Even better, Galaxy Brain Somin doesn't understand that a significant % of those "accepting" such an offer could be spies now wonderfully placed in western countries. "Wow this defector has a degree in information technology, better get him a job at BAE!"
Or rather, he handwaves it away.
He addresses it quite well. The only secrets to be given away require security clearances. Are you dumb enough to think an asylum refugee from Russia could get a security clearance?
Use your brain, dipshit. Stop being a knee-jerk fool.
Right, they could only get a job running IT for congressional Democrats.
They shot their A wad.... = Team D
1. Isn’t it already international law to offer asylum?
2. Given past history with this kind of publicized offer, doesn’t this increase the likelihood that any Russian soldier who doesn’t stay with his platoon, even if for valid offensive reasons, will be automatically shot by his sergeant?
2. So, win-win?
Yes, for a well-founded fear of persecution. Not merely speculation that it could happen.
That would have been true for captured Russian soldiers, at least in World War II. As you recall, when they found they were being transported to the USSR they committed suicide en route.
AFAIK, soldiers who surrender unnecessarily are usually prosecuted for desertion or similar. Soldiers who surrender to avoid following unlawful orders might qualify as having a well-founded fear of persecution.
We both know that the interpretation of asylum law today, is incredibly broad, and once you are in the host country, there are countless legal shenanigans one can pull to remain in that country.
1. Asylum is usually for refugees, not soldiers, and the threshold is supposed to be higher than the US currently uses. Did you have some other international law or treaty in mind?
I think this is one of those ideas that is better in theory than in operation. I have no moral objection to the proposal, but how is it going to work?
Where are the soldiers going to go? Scattered around the US/EU? Do a bunch of 18-year old Russian soldiers actually want to end up living in some random country? Especially leaving their families behind in Russia? (Obviously that's true of any asylum seeker — but in general those don't flee their own countries until after the persecution starts, when the calculus weighs heavily in favor of leaving. Here, the soldier can avoid persecution simply by not deserting.)
This law is already in place for the EU.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32004L0083:EN:HTML
"but in general those don't flee their own countries until after the persecution starts"
I'd argue that life in Putin's Russia, compared to any Western country, is nasty enough to be functionally equivalent to persecution so far as a lot of Russians are concerned, even if it doesn't meet legal standards.
What a shocker that where white people are involved, simply living in their country is "functionally equivalent to persecution." But where brown people are involved, they're just lying economic migrants.
It's been said that the Vietnam War was the first war to be televised.
This war is going to be the first war posted to social media - which (as with everything), has good and bad aspects.
It's good that we can see many things almost live, although we might lose context, e.g. a far-away helicopter is shot down and the person filming says it was a Russian helicopter but how can we tell.
One (potential) bad thing is the loss of dignity for prisoners and the dead.
Almost all countries have agreed to the Geneva Conventions which (inter alia), ". . .requires humane treatment for all persons in enemy hands, without discrimination. It specifically prohibits murder, mutilation, torture, the taking of hostages, unfair trial, and cruel, humiliating and degrading treatment. It requires that the wounded, sick and shipwrecked be collected and cared for."
Since most of the info being posted on social media is from civilians, they may not know or full understand the GC requirements.
Of course even when (military) personnel are trained on the GC, we still get incidents, including US military personnel mishandling prisoners (Abu Ghraib), or the dead (video showing four Marines urinating on dead bodies).
You do know the civilian population is not bound under the GC right? And in any case I don't see how social media postings could possibly be violations.
apedad, here is a related problem which caught my attention. NYT coverage a few days ago included a digital movie clip, showing what looked like a rocket attack on a high-rise building. Notably, the line of sight was almost (but not quite) straight down the trail of the rocket, from the camera toward the target. The interval to traverse that distance was a split second, far too brief for anyone using a camera to frame the shot. I don't know quite what to make of that. It looks on its face as if the camera guy was in cahoots with the shooter, and framed the shot before the rocket was fired. There is a possibility, I suppose, that it was security camera footage, which by coincidence was perfectly aligned.
I have since seen one other similar shot, also recording a rocket attack. In that one, the split-second path of a rocket headed for a tall antenna structure is framed almost perfectly, and shown perfectly, with the path of the attacking rocket diagonally downward, traversing most of the frame, with the target off toward the lower right corner of the frame. In short, a shot perfectly framed to tell a split-second story. That could be wider-angle footage cropped to look that way, or it could have been set up in advance to be shot that way. If it is the latter, it would be a hell of a coincidence—unless it was done with foreknowledge of the attack.
As visual consumers accustomed to miraculous-looking revelations from still and moving images, we tend to overlook the planning and prior set-up required to record most such images. We don't see that work, so we take carefully-planned images for granted, as if they were visual truth taken from life.
When you see something similarly dramatic-looking in what purports to be news reporting, you always have to wonder. Very-low-probability shots do happen, but no one should too quickly rule out a suspicion that some of them were staged.
Our media have a long record, in the last few decades, of cooperation with hostile military or terrorists, and often knowingly broadcasting propaganda from behind enemy lines. But a shot like that doesn't mean that actual media people took the footage, just that they were given it.
Since, of course, you don't link to your sources, it's hard to be sure, but if it is the widely reported incident, here is video of that attack. The first view, which matches your description, is a stationary camera out a window of a nearby building. The second view, at 1:48 in the video is the same attack from a different angle. There are lots of cameras in big cities these days.
If you search youtube for 'kyiv radio missile' etc. you can also find lots of views of that.
Goodness knows there are weirdos posting supposed war footage that are actually video game footage and so on, but these two incidents seem pretty legit.
Hey, it's Lathrop. If you don't recall, he's the guy who hypothesized that the Seattle Westlake self-defense shooter might have secretly had in for his assailant, and perhaps stage the whole thing so he could have an excuse to shoot him.
Mind you, there wasn't the slightest bit of evidence that this could have been true; It was just Lathrop being unhappy that the Seattle Police interviewed the shooter immediately afterwards, concluded it was legitimate self-defense and they had not the slightest legal basis to detain him in any way, and let him go.
I do recall that :-). He certainly fits reality to his preconceptions, rather than the other way around.
I don't think that holds a candle to his, "I know the petitioners are lying because I can tell from Google Earth that their property was wetlands."
Now, I missed that one. Whoa.
The EU already has such a law...They can do Ilya's proposed plan.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31637713
Fear that their subordinates are angling for an opportunity to defect might also sow doubt and distrust in the minds of Russian commanders, thus further undermining morale and effectiveness.
That problem was addressed back in Soviet days, at Stalingrad. All soldiers were ordered to shoot immediately anyone they thought was trying to defect.
I used to play military boardgames. In some of them there was a special "NKVD" unit you could stack with regular units to prevent them from retreating. Some say their reputation was exaggerated. I have not put in the time to research the subject.
Immigration as the cure for every problem. When you only have a hammer...
I was thinking this past week about the residents of the southern USSR who decided the genocidal tyrant they didn't know (Hitler) was better than the genocidal tyrant they knew (Stalin), and were sent back home after the war by the western Allies to face their punishment.
John F. Carr, problem was, many of those sent back probably were soldiers who crossed over from Soviet lines, and thereafter cooperated with Nazis to kill Soviets. Others were Nazi sympathizers from the beginning. It is not hard to see why post-war Soviets thought those groups deserved harsh treatment.
But still others were neither, just innocent people caught up in war's turmoil. It was a horrible place and time, about which many Americans are almost completely uninformed. British war historian Antony Beevor seems skilled and forthright. Among other works, he has published a book about World War II taken as a whole, and another book covering just Stalingrad. I recommend both.
This is the kind of idea that could be great or a disaster. Any precedent for it? Any models from the past we can look to to see how it worked out?
So just to be clear, the idea would be to:
a) freely dole out asylum to foreign defecting combatants mostly aged 18-25 with few non-military skills and no assets (plus their families?); while
b) ever-tightening asylum for hard-working skilled and unskilled refugees fleeing starvation and actual violence in the broken states in our own hemisphere, and breaking up their families?
Ah, Monroe Doctrine we never knew ya. I guess at the time we were thinking the rest of the hemisphere would be... uh... whiter than it turned out? *shrug* I dunno.
Nevermind asylum (plata)....if they're in Ukraine, a bullet is more appropriate (plomo).
There's perhaps some tension between that Twitter screen-cap and the Third Geneva Convention (which prohibits humiliating POW's). Frankly, I'm not sure which of the two exercises a stronger hold upon modern political minds.
Mr. D.
Good idea but extend it.
1. Bounties for intelligence
2. Bounties for military equipment - let's get some air force pilots to defect with their planes.
3. Bonuses for destroying military equipment - torch a fuel truck on your way out the door.
4. Bonuses for killing other Russian soldiers with increased bonuses for killing officers, bonus amount going up with rank, membership in special forces units, pilots, etc.
Just to be clear, I mean the bonus amount goes up with the rank, etc. of the soldiers that the defector kills.
Better yet, take advantage of the gaft that's systemic in the Russian system. Offer $50,000 per man, with an additional $50,000 to his unit commander!