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Libel Plaintiff Cites "Cancel Culture" in Seeking Protective Order for Identities of Witnesses
The case stems from defendant's claims that plaintiff, a comic book writer, said racist things to her at a comic-book-business social function.
This is in the libel case I blogged about yesterday, Gogol v. White; here's the plaintiff's framing of the situation:
Defendant Malissa White published multiple tweets accusing Plaintiff Frank Gogol of making racially insensitive jokes, using racial slurs, and engaging in overtly racist conduct at a social function where others were present. Witnesses who attended this social function have expressed concerns that they will face retaliation if they participate in this lawsuit, including as a result of a "cancel culture" movement on the internet….
Multiple witnesses expressed reluctance to becoming involved in this lawsuit in any manner, having observed the devastating effect of Defendant's statements on Plaintiff and fearing a similar retaliation by the Defendant, the internet community, and the comics community, generally… The comic book industry is a relatively small and close-knit profession, where an author's reputation is paramount. A stain on a comic book author's reputation can have severe consequences on the author's ability to work in the profession. This is particularly true given the rapidity and ubiquity of disclosures over the internet, where "cancel culture" mindsets can result in the immediate ostracization and "cancellation" of a person.
Based on this,
Plaintiff requests that the Court enter the Los Angeles Superior Court's Model Protective Order without modification….
- The Model Protective Order will allow third-party witnesses to designate their testimony and any documents they produce as Confidential, including their identities.
- The Model Protective Order will allow all parties and their counsel to review documents and testimony designated as Confidential.
- The Model Protective Order will allow any party to challenge a Confidentiality designation through a meet-and-confer process and then motion if necessary….
[T]he Model Protective Order will not entitle any party or witness to file any document (or portion thereof) under seal, and such party or witness will need to make an independent showing before the Court will seal any document….
(A "protective order," as the motion suggests, would keep the defendant and defendant's counsel from publicizing the names of the witnesses, but only until their testimony is used at trial or in a filing, such as a motion for summary judgment. To hide the names of witnesses at that point would require further court orders, such as sealing orders, and those would require a much greater showing.)
The plaintiff is claiming that this reflects the standard protective order used in California cases, but the standard order provides for confidentiality only for "information which is in the possession of a Designating Party who believes in good faith that such information is entitled to confidential treatment under applicable law." And my sense (reinforced by most though not all of the California lawyer friends of mine I asked about this) is that the names of such witnesses are usually not viewed as "entitled to confidential treatment under applicable law," and that such a request is quite unusual.
Plaintiff argues:
Protective orders can be used to shield the identity of a party or witness when there is a risk of embarrassment or retaliation. California courts have recognized that a party may proceed in litigation pseudonymously where their privacy rights are implicated, "particularly given the rapidity and ubiquity of disclosures over the World Wide Web." Doe v. Superior Ct. (Cal. App. 2016). Among the factors that courts look to when deciding whether a party can proceed pseudonymously is when identification creates a risk of retaliatory physical or mental harm.
Similarly, California courts—particularly in criminal cases—have regularly entered protective orders shielding witnesses' identities, even from the defendant and their counsel, to protect the witnesses from retaliation….
While good cause exists to enter the Model Protective Order, Defendant, by contrast, will not be prejudiced by a restriction on the disclosure of certain confidential information. Defendant will continue to have complete access to the protected information and be able to use these materials throughout these proceedings without limitation. Indeed, Defendant will likely benefit from the protective order which will equally apply to any confidential and personal information they may disclose through discovery.
Moreover, the Model Protective Order has provisions in place which seek to prevent blanket designations (e.g., designating an entire production as confidential). For instance, under the Model Protective Order, if a receiving party objects to a producing party's designation of a document as confidential, the receiving party can alert the producing party of its objection. Thereafter, if the parties are unable to agree on the document's designation, the producing party will then be required to file a motion to defend the confidential designation. In other words, Defendant will not be unduly burdened by Plaintiff's or a third-party witness's designation of certain materials as confidential because if they disagree with the designation, the designating party will need to file a motion to defend the designation in Court.
Is this enough for a protective order as to percipient witnesses in a normal civil case, where the concern about retaliation is that the witnesses may face public disapproval? I'd love to hear what experienced litigators have to say about this.
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On a related point, is there a Constitutional violation when police "investigate" racist incidents, like the anti-Jewish flyers left in driveways?
In all of these incidents, the news makes clear that the police and FBI are "investigating," although we know full well that there was no criminality. At the end, they conclude the investigation by saying that no crime was committed, and that the speech was protected by the 1st Amendment.
But the "cancel culture" that is now pervasive means that the outing of the identity of the speaker is truly the goal. Police opening "investigations" when they know that no crime has been committed has a chilling effect on speech. Which is the goal.
I agree totally with Nisiiko. And the same principle applies in any case, brought to a judge or other authorities, where the person who complains or demands "investigation" knows perfectly well that the targeted person has done no actionable wrong.
For example, the prosecutor of Kyle Rittenhouse knew perfectly well (from video I saw within a day of the shootings) that his actions were self defense. But he prosecuted him in bad faith, both to smear his name, to keep him in jail for over a year without cause, and to distract the public from the fact that he refused to do his job, that being to prosecute all the BLM and Antifa terrorists for arson, looting, and attempted murder.
The law is broken until it takes away all forms of immunity and gives all victims standing to sue tormentors such as that prosecutor.
Disaffected clingers don't like the way things are going in modern America.
Alert the media!
Some racist activity has a history of preceding violence. Maybe the goal is to prevent anti-Jewish violence before people get hurt rather than after? Perhaps knowing who's doing the speaking chills any escalation to violence and the goal is keeping the peace.
By that standard, police can "investigate" anything that is unpopular.
I agree there is no crime in the speech. The most they could be charged with is littering.
That said, there could be a racial intimidation/hate crime/bias intimidation angle. I know almost nothing about those kinds of laws, so I don't know what actions are required for a violation.
But those types of laws make me very uncomfortable because they seem to be walking up to or crossing the line between beliefs/speech/protected bias and illegal behavior.
If they called for violence, then yes, there could be an intimidation. But there wasn't.
I support cancel culture. Zero tolerance for woke. It promotes the interests and uses the language of the Chinese Commie Party. All woke is treason. All woke is the bullying of nomral people into accepting delusions, and a denial of reality. Cancel all woke. Cancel the entire school or agency for the slightest woke utterance.
Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.
That has always been the case. Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. What people these days tend to refer to as "cancel culture" is often just disapproving speech they're too sensitive to hear.
That undersells the problem by an order of magnitude or more. "Cancel culture" is far more than just 'disapproving speech' - yes, there is an element of speech to it but "cancel culture" is also the action of affirmatively denying the people they disapprove of their own right to speech.
Consider:
- Person A says something rude, obnoxious, offensive or just wrong.
- Person B calls them out on it after the presentation. Not "cancelling", just speech. In fact, a perfect example of responding to bad speech with more speech.
- Person B sets up a picket line outside the presentation. Also not "cancelling" but not exactly speech because B is setting up the protest before even hearing what A actually says.
- Person B prevents A from delivering the presentation by pulling the fire alarm. Definitely "cancelling" because it is preventing other willing listeners from hearing what A has to say. Also illegal.
- Person B prevents A from delivering the presentation by blasting airhorns, loud chants or other disruptions. Not as obviously illegal as a false fire alarm but still a cancellation of A's ability to speak to willing listeners.
- Person B either directly or through others has A's invitation to speak revoked. Again "cancellation" and not speech. This is more than mere disapproval - it is willful interference in the right of other listeners to hear what A has to say.
The thing is, though, we've always had cancel culture and conservatives only started to notice when it was turned against them. During the Civil Rights movement, any business in the South that integrated was looking at being boycotted. During World War I, people who spoke against the war actually went to prison, which is fairly effective as a form of cancellation. Loyalty oaths ensured that only people with the correct political opinions could teach or work in certain occupations. White citizens councils intimidated and silenced people who supported the civil rights movement. The leadership of the Communist Party went to prison during the McCarthy era, and the Supreme Court upheld their convictions.
None of which is to say I approve of cancel culture as it's currently being enforced. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now, no matter which viewpoint is being suppressed. Just that, as with affirmative action, it's funny how conservatives only realized it was a problem when they were no longer benefitting from it.
Apples and oranges.
How exactly is it apple and oranges?
Gogol is not a conservative. This was the first part of his response (on Twitter):
"First and foremost, I want to say that when women, people of color, LGBTQIA+ folks, and other marginalized people speak up, it is vital that we listen to and believe them. I’m grateful to see such a strong showing of support for someone who is coming forward with their story."
That may be true in this case, but in general conservatives are the ones complaining about getting cancelled.
I suspect it's the media you consume. In academia and entertainment I can assure you there are many liberals and leftists complaining about cancel culture, both generally and those who were cancelled themselves. In academia, due to the uneven political balance I'm pretty sure the non-conservatives complaining about cancel culture are more numerous than the conservatives.
K_2,
First, you paint with too broad a brush.
The urge to "cancel" has existed for millenia, but has never before had the high-gain amplifier of internet social media, making a qualitative change in today's cancel culture and its effects on society at large.
Ah, so people have always been cancelled; the technology just allows the mob to be more effective. I would agree with that.
I think the reality is that the dominant culture has always cancelled voices it didn't like, and what's different now is the Internet. Whether the communists (real or imagined) in the 1950s or the racists (real or imagined) in 2022, if your views are outside the mainstream, the mob will give you a hard time about it.
" the mob will give you a hard time about it."
That is for sure. But there is also an amplified urge to deny people their livelihood.
Yup, the Hollywood blacklist aimed at that also. but then we entered several decade of relative quiet, even during the Vietnam war. The past several years have turned up the "cancel the speech" into "cancel the speaker."
Strange how people think Democrats used to be "conservatives".
Democrats did used to be conservative, and Republicans used to be principled. That was then, this is now.
"Is this enough for a protective order as to percipient witnesses in a normal civil case, where the concern about retaliation is that the witnesses may face public disapproval?"
Um. Uh.
In civil litigation? Look, the bar to avoid disclosure of witnesses' identities in criminal litigation is nigh insurmountable. But I am struggling to think of an instance where witnesses could chose to not be identified out of some nebulous fear that their truthful testimony might be perceived poorly by society at large- and without even a particularized showing.
Now, I get that this is simply a preliminary issue, and that in order to continue under seal they would have to make this particularized showing, but I simply have trouble imagining a blanket prohibition on witness names.
This reminds me of Scalia's concurrence in Doe v. Reed, which should be required reading. Specifically, "There are laws against threats and intimidation; and harsh criticism, short of unlawful action, is a price our people have traditionally been willing to pay for self-governance. Requiring people to stand up in public for their political acts fosters civic courage, without which democracy is doomed."
Thank you for the quote and its source.
He is certainly correct about comic-book culture -- just look at the comicsgate controversy where well-known artists like Ethan van Sciver was blacklisted for his conservative views and newer heterodox artists have been completely frozen out of the industry and forced into self-publishing. And on twitter, artists have been pressured to condemn the non-woke. I don't know, however, if that would justify the relief requested.
The problem with "cancel culture" is not that it has existed in some form since probably the beginning of time. Heck, the ancient Greeks had it enshrined as ostracization. But, that the current version is being used to suppress dissent of issues that are mainstream or close to the mainstream. The heavy handedness of this version never really existed or wasn't very well tolerated in the past.
I agree. The far right and the far left cancel for things that are moderate, largely acceptable positions. It is the wingnuts that are the problem, not "cancel culture".
If you think someone should suffer for saying something that is a 55/45 issue, you are the problem.
Moderates need to start pushing back as hard as the wingnuts do. Moderates are the majority of the country and we shouldn't let the far right and far left fuck things up for the rest of us.