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David Cole (of the ACLU and Georgetown Law) on the Ilya Shapiro Matter
David Cole, longtime Georgetown law professor who's now the National Legal Director of the ACLU, writes in the New York Review:
Shapiro's message was offensive, but if academic freedom is to mean anything, [Shapiro's] two tweets can't be a firing offense. And without academic freedom, the voices suppressed are as likely to be those of critical race theorists as opponents of affirmative action.
The concept of academic freedom was initially advanced in the United States by universities and professors as a defense against political intrusions aimed at perceived anarchists, Communists, and other critics of the status quo. Universities argued that because a robust exchange of ideas and free inquiry are essential to the academic enterprise, state officials must respect the independent judgments of universities and the free speech rights of their employees. The Supreme Court's academic freedom cases have all involved government efforts to banish Communists from campus….
If universities do not respect this principle [of academic freedom] within their own institutions, how will they resist the political encroachments of outsiders? …
Doing what the vocal majority demands in this instance [i.e., firing Shapiro] would be a huge mistake. I unequivocally reject Shapiro's contention that it is improper to seek to rectify the shameful fact that no Black woman has ever served on the Court—just as there was nothing wrong in Ronald Reagan's commitment to appoint the first woman, or President Trump's statement that he would pick a woman to fill Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat. And Shapiro's tweet was, in my view, offensive.
But that doesn't mean he should lose his job—or that the Georgetown community will be better-off if it banishes him. Expressing one's position on affirmative action, or any other matter of public debate, even in an offensive manner, cannot be the basis for termination if academic freedom is to be respected.
The principle of academic freedom, like the freedom of speech generally, is not absolute. It does not protect those who engage in targeted racial harassment or threats, or speech that creates a pervasively hostile environment. But Shapiro's tweets do not come close to crossing those lines. And in an instance such as this, in which he immediately responded by deleting the tweets and apologizing, the commitment to academic freedom demands tolerance for those with whom we disagree. Some have raised concerns about whether students of color will feel comfortable taking Shapiro's classes. But his primary role will be running a conservative institute on campus, and as a lecturer he would not teach any compulsory courses.
Georgetown has also said it is investigating whether Shapiro's tweets violated its rules of "professional conduct," but if that open-ended term can be invoked to terminate a teacher for expressing a controversial view in a provocative manner, off-campus and outside of his employment, no professor's free speech rights will be safe.
Most importantly, if universities start policing controversial speech within their own intellectual community, they will undercut their standing to object to others' efforts to police them….
Academic freedom is especially important in today's toxic political environment. The survival of our vast, multicultural democracy demands a commitment to pluralism. Our society is afflicted by deep polarization, in which both left and right have grown more strident and increasingly intolerant, opinions have ossified into identities, and many of us rarely talk to, or hear from, those with whom we disagree. The university has the potential to be a critical antidote. At its best, it provides a place in which people with widely divergent opinions live and learn together. But it can do so only by practicing the tolerance for disagreement that is too often missing elsewhere.
As a private university, Georgetown is not bound by the First Amendment. But like virtually all institutions of higher learning, it has committed itself to respecting the free exchange of ideas. Its policy protects even speech that "most members of the University community [consider] offensive, unwise, immoral, or ill conceived." That so many faculty, students, and student organizations have demanded Shapiro's ouster will make Georgetown's adherence to its own standards extraordinarily difficult. Nothing is more challenging for leaders than to stand up to the will of the vocal majority. But it is moments like these that test our commitment to the values of tolerance and diversity. Condemning the message is the right response; firing the speaker is not.
(For my own view on the matter, see this post; see also this faculty letter.)
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Cancel all woke. Cancel the entire treason indoctrination camp. De-privilege, defund, de-accredit. Seize their assets, especially the endowments, in civil forfeiture for fraud. They promise education, provided indoctrination instead. Arrest their leaders for tax fraud.
Whoops, sorry, fixed.
UCLA = ACLU?
Damn, it's a constant battle preserving the guarantees of 1A.
I am thankful to the good professor for going forth into battle for us who cherish our rights of free speech.
He seems to want us to know how much he really, truly, deeply finds Shapiro's tweets offensive. And did he mention that they were offensive, as well as offensive.
But they must be defended to protect the rights of communists to continue controlling our universities despite public opinion. Good to see the ACLU hasn't drifted away from its founding principles of defending whatever is in the interests of communism.
You mean like when they defended the Nazis at Skokie? Or the interned Japanese-Americans?
Yes, which they did on the quite sensible principle that, if you just defend communists, nobody is going to take you seriously, but if you defend ALL despised minorities, people will think you're actually principled, and the communists get to go along for the ride. Multiple interviews with people in the ACLU have confirmed that they didn't defend the Nazis in Skokie to defend Nazis, they did it to defend the people they LIKED, who might have been harmed by the precedent set by allowing Nazis to be stopped.
"The concept of academic freedom was initially advanced in the United States by universities and professors as a defense against political intrusions aimed at perceived anarchists, Communists, and other critics of the status quo. ... If universities do not respect this principle [of academic freedom] within their own institutions, how will they resist the political encroachments of outsiders?"
He's explicitly defending Shapiro because, if Shapiro isn't safe, communists won't be safe.
Which, you know, is fine; As long as they continue to simulate principle, they might as well be principled. The only problem with it is that the simulation started breaking down 20-30 years ago, (When the started to realize the censors would be their allies!) and it's almost gone. The ACLU now picks and choses whose rights are worth defending.
So, it really is welcome to see a return to their roots, of defending non-communists so that communists will be safe. Because it's better than them just defending communists, isn't it?
Let me have your address so I can send you a lifetime supply of tinfoil.
Costco has that covered.
When someone Brett doesn't like does something he approves of, it can only be for a bad reason - part of some secret plan to establish communism in the US.
Geez, Brett. Get some help.
Um, Brett, that's how principles work.
Did you miss the recent behavior by the ACLU, where they actively encourage government censorship and oppose free choice?
Brett's point is that they were never principled, they just did some PR work to hold up the image. Now that they don't feel the need for it anymore, they're showing exactly how unprincipled they are.
mulched: Doesn't that make his academic freedom argument more effective? "I like X's speech, and think it should be protected" may be dismissed as just support for your own side -- "I really dislike X's speech, but still think it should be protected" can't be so easily dismissed.
Beyond that, the primary goal of the article, I take it, is to persuade precisely the people who are offended by Shapiro's post. Those that aren't offended are probably already persuaded; beyond that, the key decisionmakers at Georgetown likely are offended; and most readers of the New York Review are probably offended. By making it clear that he shares their being offended, I think Cole makes his point more persuasive to people like that.
But would he be so quick to defend a conservative professor?
I doubt it.
Darth Chocolate: I'm not sure what you mean -- Cole is defending a professor who is taking what is usually seen these days as a "conservative" position (opposition to race- and sex-based affirmative action, of a sort, in appointing judges). Are you saying that Cole is only defending Shapiro because Shapiro is generally more libertarian than conservative, and that if Shapiro were a conservative, Cole wouldn't have defended him?
"Cole is defending a professor who is taking what is usually seen these days as a "conservative" position (opposition to race- and sex-based affirmative action, of a sort, in appointing judges). "
Say, have you forgotten what Shapiro actually wrote in that deleted tweet?
“Objectively best pick for Biden is Sri Srinivasan, who is solid prog & v smart. Even has identity politics benefit of being first Asian (Indian) American,”
Shapiro gave three reasons for preferring Srinivasan:
1) A solid prog.
2) Very smart.
3) Identity politics.
Only the 2nd reason is plausibly "conservative", and he's explicitly FAVORING race based affirmative action, just pointing out that "Asian (Indian) American"s are even less represented on the Court.
I was actually shocked at the reasoning he gave for preferring Srinivasan! This guy is (was?) a VP at Cato. Is this how Cato thinks about Court picks these days, that solid progs should be preferred, and ethnicity matters?
Come on, Brett, it was purely an argument from the right.
Shapiro is hardly a moderate.
The whole point being made was that only black women = bad picks.
That it was clothed in unasked for championing of this other liberal that is not a black woman does not make it any less an argument from the right.
You have a really, really weird idea of what people on the right think, if you think that was purely an argument from the right.
"The whole point being made was that only black women = bad picks."
Yup, a really twisted idea indeed.
Wasn't the point that there's a better qualified pick that still satisfies the usual Democratic preferences? It's not Ilya's idea of what makes a good pick, it's "Look, even by your own standards this is a better pick!"
I didn't see that context, but I suppose that's what he was getting at.
I was actually shocked at the reasoning he gave for preferring Srinivasan!
Why? It is clear that he was saying that the best pick from Biden's point of view was Srinivasan, not that he - Shapiro - thinks Srinivasan should be on the court.
The problem, of course, is that you can't read. Even though you quote the tweet, you ignored what it said. I'll help, by reprinting it and emphasizing the relevant language:
“Objectively best pick for Biden is Sri Srinivasan, who is solid prog & v smart. Even has identity politics benefit of being first Asian (Indian) American,”
In other words — notwithstanding your failure to grasp that libertarians are not conservatives and do not therefore think liberals are the other side of the spectrum from them — you are simply not understanding what he said. He was talking about the best pick from the perspective of Biden, who's going to be appointing a progressive.
I agree in the sense that he's saying that his argument in favor of Shapiro's academic freedom is "against his interest" of disliking with Shapiro's tweets.
But he repeats it so frequently that it seems more like he just wants to make sure we know he's "not that kind of guy."
Well, what exactly is wrong with that? His stressing that he disapproves of Shapiro's position is both honest, and helps him persuade his audience (precisely because it makes sure that the audience knows he's not that kind of guy).
The appeal of his argument narrows to a specific segment of people willing to entertain an academic freedom argument, but only willing to accept it from someone who finds race-neutrality offensive.
From Georgetown's reaction, it seems like that's not many. Those calling for Shapiro's ouster have already given up on academic freedom.
He didn't just "disapprove[] of Shapiro's position." He found Shapiro's position "offensive, " i.e., pretty much equivalent to a Nazi at Skokie. I suppose that might be effective with left-wing crazies.
He's trying to defend somebody who's being canceled, without being canceled himself. That's a very narrow path to walk, as cancellation is very contagious.
"The only people who would defend an enemy of the people are enemies of the people!" (USSR, circa 1930)
Hey, Volokh, lawyer denier, all PC is case. All woke is to avoid ruinous litigation by scumbags at the ACLU, or as you call it, UCLA. The UCLA is the cause of woke. This letter is total masking ideology bullshit, and hypocritical. They caused woke. The UCLA must be defunded and shut down.
The most disappointing aspect of this entire matter is the failure of Cato and Georgetown U to publicly and vociferously 'stand by their man'. We are seeing the strength of their institutional belief in 1A play out right in front of us; I am supremely unimpressed.
Either stand by your man, or cut him loose quickly. Leaving him to twist in the wind is wrong, and potentially career derailing.
I'm personally stonkered by the notion that Shapiro IS "their man"; Since when do VP's of the Cato Institute think that being a staunch progressive is a good thing in a Supreme court justice?
Sure, Brett, all liberals are equally objectionable and unqualified. Only a closet-leftist like Shapiro would think he could persuade an honest conservative otherwise.
He didn't say the guy was the best pick despite being a solid progressive. He said it was part of WHY he was the best pick.
At least nominally, Cato and "progressivism" are at odds, only rarely allies.
You're so partisan you've lost the ability to understand concession against interest as a rhetorical tactic.
Or maybe I think somebody whose job was to be an advocate for an ideology should advocate for that ideology.
Smart advocacy is targeted at the persuadable, not the persuaded.
He said it was part of WHY he was the best pick.
Again, Brett, he said Srivinasan was the best pick for Biden. The phrase is right there in the tweet. He did not say Srivinasan would be his own choice.
Brett, just because you're a standard issue conservative pretending to be/have been a libertarian does not mean that your preferences describe actual libertarians.
Actually, I'm a standard issue late 70's libertarian, (You know, the kind of guy who thought that Ron Paul would have made a great President?) noticing that if that's what passes for a "libertarian" these days, things have really gone sideways.
Check out page 2.
Big fan of Paul's newsletter, were you?
So a paleocon who thought "libertarian" sounded cooler, then?
The most disappointing point is that Georgetown displayed the poor judgment required to associate with Shapiro in the first place. There are plenty of downscale, bigoted, censorship-shackled, conservative-controlled schools that would be a fine fit for Shapiro.
OK, Boomer. STFU until you resign to be replaced by a diverse. The rest is worthless garbage speech until you act on your woke.
Cato is Koch Brothers. Expect little from this Trojan Horse save betrayal.
He is no longer at Cato.
And Shapiro's tweet was, in my view, offensive.
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder, and there's an army of people eager to take offense at pretty much anything.
But for third grade readers and above, who are not already committed to taking offense, his tweet should not have been offensive. I forget the precise words, but it was something like :
"Biden has promised to appoint a female black justice. But the best candidate by a mile is Sri Srinivasan. We shouldn't have to put up with an inferior black female nominee."
This is - offensively speaking - much the same as saying :
"Biden has promised to appoint a male South Asian justice. But the best candidate by a mile is Ketanji Brown Jackson. We shouldn't have to put up with an inferior South Asian guy."
In short, "inferior" is a reference to anyone who isn't the qualitatively best pick, with the racial reference simply being to the particular race that Biden announces that he prefers to judicial ability.
It doesn't suggest that all black females are always and necessarily judicially inferior to all South Asian males. It simply says that race should not be a consideration - on which opinions may differ, of course.
It's crazy: We've had multiple female justices, and multiple black justices, and currently both flavors on the Court, and yet the fact that they haven't yet intersected is some horrific injustice, that dwarfs the fact that we haven't had an Indian justice yet.
It's all so stupid, and stupidly isn't even internally consistent.
Thing is he was speaking from a POV of protecting Biden's policy preferences, not his own. But how much talent do you really need when protecting the party and racial quotas/spoils are your primary goals with sex/gender chaos is a secondary goal.
As we all know, the most important qualification for judges on the Supreme Court is the shape and color of their skin.
Talk me through "shape of their skin" - not a concept that has troubled my synapses so far.
Talk me through "shape of their skin"
The difference between males and females.
If that were the difference, 'gender reassignment' surgery would actually change your sex.
Perhaps I should have said:
The difference between non-mutilated males and females.
or
The non-genetic difference between males and females.
" As we all know, the most important qualification for judges on the Supreme Court is the shape and color of their skin. "
Why, in your judgment, are Republican judicial nominees (and Volokh Conspirators) so odds-defyingly male and strikingly white?
Good lord, even the people claiming to defend him are mischaracterizing what he said.
In the meantime, the clamor for the firing of the far more explicitly racist and offensive Washington Post authors is ... crickets ... ...
David Cole isn't defending him. He's just defending his rights. In an "even somebody that bad should be free to speak" sort of way.
"The concept of academic freedom was initially advanced in the United States by universities and professors as a defense against political intrusions aimed at perceived anarchists, Communists, and other critics of the status quo."
One of the most famous early academic-freedom cases involved Edward Ross at Stanford, at the beginning of the 20th century.
At first, the widow of Leland Stanford wanted Ross fired for supporting William Jennings Bryan, but she lost that one. Then, "when Ross spoke out against the importation of Asian labor, he hit closer to her economic interests: Leland Stanford had employed Asian laborers in his railroad construction business....
"...in 1900 Jane Stanford prevailed upon him to accept Ross’s forced resignation."
https://academeblog.org/2014/04/24/the-ross-case/
Nowadays that would be filed under the category of "firing a racist professor."
Stop Asian hate!
prevailed upon him = prevailed on the pres of Stanford
Shapiro's message was offensive only if he made a harsh but factual point ... apparently he did.
Major premiss: All candidates for this nomination are African-American women.
Minor premiss: Srinivasan, CJ. is not an African-American woman.
Conclusion: Do not--ever--dispute the major premiss.
Mr. D.
"[I]f academic freedom is to mean anything, [Shapiro's] two tweets can't be a firing offense."
So if Shapiro is fired for his two tweets, then academic freedom has no meaning. The entire future of academic freedom is literally riding on the outcome in this specific situation. On the bright side, if Shapiro is fired for his tweets, we no longer have to deal with professors citing academic freedom when they are disciplined for their speech. Since, per David Cole's argument, academic freedom would cease to have any meaning.
What we need here is a third tweet.
What he said... Was. Not. Offensive.
The number of people in this thread personally offended by the subjective take that the tweet was offensive is pretty hilarious.
A point I often make: "Offensive" isn't a property of the thing taken offense at. You can't weigh it, objectively measure it, the same thing will result in some people being offended, and others not.
So, no, the tweet was not "offensive". Some people took offense at it. That's the real truth of the matter.
Much of the argument in support of Mr. Shapiro has focused on academic freedom. I'm not so sure it is helpful to him, it amounts to a concession that what he said was deeply offensive but protected by that principle, and that argument may not be of much benefit.
The reason this might be the kind of support he doesn't want is that there are two appointments in play here. One as senior lecturer, an undeniably academic post. The second is that of executive director of the Georgetown Center for the Constitution, an apparently administrative one.
Georgetown's published academic freedom policy claims to apply to students, faculty, and staff. As such it clearly protects academics and most staff, but it's a closer call whether it also applies to administrative staff at an executive level who speak for the institution. If the freedom to offend is his only defense then a possible outcome is that he keeps the lecturer position but not the executive directorship.
Better, I think, to maintain that it was just a careless choice of words. I accept that, not that my vote counts of course.
I'm curious too about what is happening behind the scenes. We are now in the third week of his suspension with no word from the administrative review that was promised. I wonder if Georgetown is hoping that if they drag their heels a little longer the public will be distracted by something else.