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Shutdown of Gun Stores During Early COVID Months Violated Second Amendment
So holds a Ninth Circuit panel—with the authoring judge penning a hypothetical dissent, to illustrate his view that the Ninth Circuit's Second Amendment precedents are too malleable. From McDougall v. County of Ventura, today's opinion by Judge Lawrence Vandyke joined by Judge Ryan Nelson:
"[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms," U.S. Const. amend. II, means nothing if the government can prohibit all persons from acquiring any firearm or ammunition. But that's what happened in this case. Under California's highly regulated framework for firearms, law-abiding citizens can only obtain firearms and ammunition by arriving in-person to government-approved gun and ammunition shops. And after purchasing a firearm, they must wait a minimum of ten days to obtain it (and sometimes much longer).
When COVID hit, Ventura County, California issued a series of public health orders (collectively, Orders) that mandated a 48-day closure of gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges. They did this while allowing other businesses like bike shops to remain open. The Orders also prohibited everyone from leaving their homes other than for preapproved reasons, which did not include traveling to gun or ammunition shops or firing ranges outside the County.
The Orders therefore wholly prevented law-abiding citizens in the County from realizing their right to keep and bear arms, both by prohibiting access to acquiring any firearm and ammunition, and barring practice at firing ranges with any firearms already owned. These blanket prohibitions on access and practice clearly burden conduct protected by the Second Amendment and fail under both strict and intermediate scrutiny. We therefore reverse and remand to the district court….
[T]he Orders' effective prohibition on all access to and the practice of firearms at firing ranges throughout the County clearly burdens conduct protected by the Second Amendment. And because Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905)[, which upheld a smallpox vaccination mandate-EV,] does not concern the specific, constitutionally enumerated right at issue here, and essentially applied rational basis review, it does not apply. Instead, the severity of the Orders' burden warrants strict scrutiny—which the Orders fail to satisfy because they are not the least restrictive means to further Appellees' interest, especially when compared to businesses that have no bearing on fundamental rights, yet nevertheless were allowed to remain open. And even if intermediate scrutiny was the appropriate standard of review, Appellees failed to show how the Orders satisfied it given their complete omission of any explanation as to why gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges posed any more of a risk than other non-Constitutionally protected activities that were deemed "essential" and allowed to remain open….
The majority concluded that the orders "implicate[d]" and "severely burden[ed]" "the core of the Second Amendment right" "because they foreclosed the ability to acquire arms and ammunition and maintain proficiency in the use of firearms—rights which an en banc panel of this court has repeatedly acknowledged are 'necessary to the realization of the core right to possess a firearm for self-defense." It then concluded that strict scrutiny was the constitutionally proper test, and that the orders were unconstitutional under that test:
In arguing against the application of strict scrutiny, Appellees primarily rely on Silvester v. Harris (9th Cir. 2016) and its holding that California's 10-day waiting period between purchase and possession of a firearm warranted intermediate scrutiny…. [But] Silvester concerned no more than a 10-day waiting period—nearly five times shorter than the Orders' 48-day effective ban on firearm and ammunition sales at issue here…. [And] Silvester's rationale turned on the government's claimed interest in a "cooling off" period, which is not at issue here….
[I]n the Second Amendment context, … the need for armed protection in self-defense can arise at a moments' notice and without warning. People don't plan to be robbed in their homes in the dead of night or to be assaulted while walking through city streets. It is in these unexpected and sudden moments of attack that the Second Amendments' rights to keep and bear arms becomes most acute…. The acute need for Second Amendment rights during temporary crises was well-understood by our Founders. Modern society agrees, as firearm and ammunition sales have soared during the recent pandemic. But if the government suspends these rights during times of crises, the Second Amendment itself becomes meaningless when it is needed most—especially to the victims of attacks….
The Orders cannot survive strict scrutiny. "Under that standard, the regulation is valid only if it is the least restrictive means available to further a compelling government interest."
The Orders attempt to "[s]tem[] the spread of COVID- 19," which "is unquestionably a compelling interest." But the recent Supreme Court COVID cases compel the conclusion that the Orders are not the least restrictive means to further this compelling interest. The complete closure of all gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges is "far more restrictive than any COVID-related regulations that have previously come before the [Supreme] Court," as those cases only concerned regulations limiting the capacity at activities that implicated fundamental rights, not an outright ban of those activities altogether.
"[T]here are [also] many other less restrictive rules that could be adopted to minimize the risk" of allowing gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges to remain open. Among other things, the County could have opened gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges on an appointment-only basis, just like it eventually did for people who purchased a firearm before the Orders took effect.
The Orders' discriminatory impact on gun and ammunition shops also emphasizes that they were not "the least restrictive means available to further a compelling government interest." Just like in Roman Catholic Diocese v. Cuomo (2020), the Orders allowed "essential" businesses like bicycle repair shops and hardware stores to remain open but forced venues that provide access to core fundamental liberties—in this case, Second Amendment rights—to close. In this somewhat unique scenario where governments are grappling with a global pandemic, the risk of gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges remaining open have nothing to do with the dangers typically associated with firearms. Instead, just as in the recent Supreme Court COVID cases involving religious liberty, all activities open to the public in the County essentially pose the same risk of furthering the spread of COVID by way of facilitating continued public interaction. See Tandon v. Newsom (2011) ("Comparability is concerned with the risks various activities pose, not the reasons why people gather."). And there is nothing in the record suggesting that gun shops, ammunition shops, or firing ranges posed a higher risk of spreading COVID than, say, bicycle shops or hardware stores.
The governments' designation of "essential" businesses and activities reflects a government-imposed devaluation of Second Amendment conduct in relation to various other non- Constitutionally protected activities during times of crises, irrespective of any of the unique dangers presented by firearms, ammunition, or firing ranges. Such devaluation directly undermines the strong protections the Constitution was designed to protect, even through the "various crises of human affairs." The Orders' discriminatory denigration of fundamental liberties reveals that they are not the least restrictive means available, further demonstrating their inability to survive strict scrutiny.
Ultimately, the issue boils down to the County's designation of "essential" versus "non-essential" businesses and activities. While courts should afford some measure of deference to local policy determinations, "the enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table." When a government completely bans all acquisition of firearms and ammunition by closing gun shops, ammunition shops, and firing ranges, it's one of those off-limits policy choices squarely contemplated by Heller. The Orders cannot satisfy strict scrutiny.
The majority concluded, for much the same reasons, that the Orders would fail even intermediate scrutiny, if that were the right standard. (I oversimplify here, but the post is already too long.)
Judge Andrew Kleinfeld concurred in the judgment, but wrote separately:
First, we need not reach the question whether strict scrutiny applies, so I would not. While strict scrutiny may be appropriate, as the majority concludes, nevertheless we should not make more law than is necessary to decide the case. Second, I wish to expand upon the absence of justification in the record for what the County did.
The Supreme Court and we have held that rational basis review is not appropriate to a statute (let alone a mere edict by a county official, as here) challenged under the Second Amendment. We and other circuits have used First Amendment analysis as a guide. In Packingham v. North Carolina, a recent First Amendment challenge to a prohibition against a registered sex offender accessing social media sites, the Supreme Court explained that "to survive intermediate scrutiny, a law must be 'narrowly tailored to serve a significant governmental interest.'" The fit between the governmental objective and the prohibition need not be perfect, but it must be reasonable. To survive intermediate scrutiny, the government cannot "burden substantially more speech than is necessary to further the government's legitimate interests."
A valid governmental interest (in Packingham, keeping child molesters from using Facebook and Twitter to find new victims) is not adequate to insulate the restriction from all constitutional protections. The State must "me[e]t its burden to show that th[e] sweeping law is necessary or legitimate to serve that purpose." While the government's burden of proof is not "unnecessarily rigid," the evidence in the record must still "fairly support" the government's position. Of course, "we defer to reasonable legislative judgments." In the case before us, the challenged order is not a "legislative judgment," merely an edict by a subordinate official within the County executive, presumably entitled to less deference than a legislative judgment.
Thus, regardless of whatever deference this edict may receive, the County bears the burden of establishing a "reasonable fit" between its purpose of slowing the spread of the virus and its prohibition of sales of and practice at gun ranges with guns and ammunition. That purpose is legitimate, but the legitimacy of the purpose is not enough to abridge a constitutional right. The County must show that the evidence in the record establishes a reasonable fit of the edict to the legitimate purpose….
There is no evidence whatsoever in the record to show why the particular inclusions and exceptions relating to firearms, ammunition, and shooting ranges reasonably fit the purpose of slowing the spread of the COVID-19 virus. The only document the County points to as justification is the edict itself, in which its Health Officer recites in the "Whereas" clauses that "social isolation is considered useful" for this purpose. The County provides no evidence and no justification for why bicycles could be purchased and delivered, for example, but firearms could not even be picked up at the storefront, or for why such outdoor activities as walking, bicycling, and golfing were allowed, but acquiring and maintaining proficiency at outdoor shooting ranges was not.
The State of California Public Health Officer had made an exception to the statewide order confining people to their residences for workers needed to "maintain continuity of operations of the federal critical infrastructure sectors" of the economy. The federal government had advised that gun stores should be treated as "essential critical infrastructure," but the County offers no justification whatsoever, let alone evidence, for why it did not so treat gun stores, as the State exception and federal advisory memorandum did. The federal guidance, ignored without any stated reason by the County, deemed "workers supporting the operation of firearm or ammunition product manufacturers, retailers, importers, distributors, and shooting ranges" to be within the "critical infrastructure workforce."
The dramatically broad County Health Officer's edict established that anyone in the County could be arrested and put in jail for myriad activities outside the home or for engaging in commercial transactions other than those explicitly excepted from the edict, yet the County offers no evidence nor even any argument for the apparently arbitrary list of exclusions. Nor does the County make any effort, not by presenting evidence, nor even by presenting argument, for why such constitutionally protected activities, whether public speech, or going to church, or purchasing and practicing with firearms and ammunition, were simply banned, instead of accommodated with a reasonable fit to the purpose of slowing the spread of the virus….
Judge Vandyke also filed a separate opinion that noted (not with praise, I think) the likelihood of en banc review—and indeed wrote, though without endorsing, a dissenting opinion to his own majority:
[1.] I'm not a prophet, but since this panel just enforced the Second Amendment, and this is the Ninth Circuit, this ruling will almost certainly face an en banc challenge. This prediction follows from the fact that this is always what happens when a three-judge panel upholds the Second Amendment in this circuit. Our circuit has ruled on dozens of Second Amendment cases, and without fail has ultimately blessed every gun regulation challenged, so we shouldn't expect anything less here….
[2.] As I've recently explained, our circuit can uphold any and every gun regulation because our current Second Amendment framework is exceptionally malleable and essentially equates to rational basis review. Our court normally refers to our legal test as a two-step inquiry, although it may be better understood as a "tripartite binary test with a sliding scale and a reasonable fit"—a test that "only a law professor can appreciate." The complex weave of multi-prong analyses embedded into this framework provide numerous off-ramps for judges to uphold any gun-regulation in question without hardly breaking a sweat.
Given both of these realities—that (1) no firearm-related ban or regulation ever ultimately fails our circuit's Second Amendment review, and (2) that review is effectively standardless and imposes no burden on the government—it occurred to me that I might demonstrate the latter while assisting my hard-working colleagues with the former. Those who know our court well know that all of our judges are very busy and that it's a lot of work for any judge to call a panel decision en banc. A judge or group of judges must first write a call memo, and then, if the en banc call is successful, the en banc majority must write a new opinion.
Since our court's Second Amendment intermediate scrutiny standard can reach any result one desires, I figure there is no reason why I shouldn't write an alternative draft opinion that will apply our test in a way more to the liking of the majority of our court. That way I can demonstrate just how easy it is to reach any desired conclusion under our current framework, and the majority of our court can get a jump-start on calling this case en banc. Sort of a win-win for everyone. To better explain the reasoning and assumptions behind this type of analysis, my "alternative" draft below will contain footnotes that offer further elaboration (think of them as "thought-bubbles"). The path is well-worn, and in a few easy steps any firearms regulation, no matter how draconic, can earn this circuit's stamp of approval….
For the hypothetical dissent, see the full decision, starting with p. 48. But I couldn't resist including footnote 11 (the footnotes in Judge Vandyke's hypothetical dissent are asides that criticize the current Ninth Circuit doctrine):
I know this sounds a lot like rational basis review. After all, if a government interest would be "achieved [more] effectively absent the [challenged] regulation," it's hard to see how that regulation would survive even rational basis scrutiny. But trust us, this is heightened scrutiny. So very heightened.
Disclosure: The plaintiffs included the Firearms Policy Coalition, for which I consult on various cases, but I didn't work on this one. Congratulations to Ray DiGiuseppe, Joseph Greenlee, and Ronda Baldwin-Kennedy on their victory.
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Two Trump-picked, partisan, backwater clingers, one from Idaho and the other from Montana.
Let's observe the shelf life of the current gun nuttery among right-wing judges before reaching long-term conclusions concerning the durability of this decision.
Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland (pseudonym)
"enemy domestic", one each.
Scientists have shown too many rats in an area will start fighting a hell of a lot more.
Kirkland, Idaho is in turmoil, rapidly filling with backwater clingers from other states. For in situ clingers you were wise to include Montanans.
Shall NOT be infringed
"Shall NOT be infringed"
That is the level of legal insight one can expect to find at a White, male, right-wing blog with a scant academic veneer.
Carry on, gun nuts -- precisely so far and so long as the liberal-libertarian American mainstream permits.
(I'd develop better ideas and more persuasive arguments if you hope to stop having right-wing positions -- guns, abortions, civil rights, etc. -- be defeated so soundly at the American marketplace of ideas, and maybe stop associating so closely with repulsive bigots).
Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland
January.20.2022 at 4:56 pm
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"Shall NOT be infringed"
That is the level of legal insight one can expect to find at a White, male, right-wing blog with a scant academic veneer."
No reason that the enlighted progressives couldnt learn to read
Ah, good old Rev. Looking to strip Americans of their constitutional rights, like religious freedom, the freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech and more. Soon, the right to vote will be in his crosshairs.
He's got no problem with the right to vote....
As long as you vote the proper way.
Same with freedom of speech, as long as you don't say anything (he considers) improper.
Same with right to bear arms, as long as you point them at the "right" people.
Come to think of it, same with freedom of religion, as long it's his religion -- what he calls "liberalism" (which is a joke).
The Second Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, restricts government power. Give an example of a gun-control law that would violate the Second Amendment.
Gun grabbers like the Pseudo Rev are big time whiners when they lose. He gets lots of practice whining. But as unhappy here in this "racist" enclave, as he claims to be, he still won't go away.
For some of us Pseudo Rev (and one other person) went away within hours of the Mute User feature going live. Now if only there were a Mute User and All Comments Below...
I don't want to mute all the comments below but I do wish we had a Collapse Thread button. There are some threads that just go off into tangents that don't interest me. I wish there were an easier way to jump to the next thread better than "scroll and hope you don't miss the change in indentation". A collapse thread twistie is pretty common in other commenting systems. It would be really nice to have it here.
Every gun control law, which gives government the right to restrict arms, is a violation of the Second Amendment.
For example: The National Firearms Act. The Gun Control Act of 1968. All of 18 USC 922. The entire corpus of USSC gun control findings pre-Heller, and some post Heller.
Shall not be infringed seems pretty simple. There are no clauses that allow for infringement under certain conditions...if you're too close to a school, or want to carry concealed for example.
I can understand why someone whose legal analysis relies on a fringe right-wing blog would be a Second Amendment absolutist. (Are you misfits First Amendment absolutists, too?)
I also understand that this is why better law school faculties have few faculty members who resemble Prof. Volokh, while many fourth-tier and unranked law schools tend to have plenty of Volokhs and Blackmans.
Still waiting for a response to my query:
The Second Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, restricts government power. Give an example of a gun-control law that would violate the Second Amendment.
I believe the Constitution (although not necessarily the Second Amendment) entitles an American to possess a reasonable firearm for self-defense in the home. I not only believe a law prohibiting such possession would violate the Constitution but also hope the predictable backlash against gun nuttery does not overrun it.
If it is a casualty of the mainstream's snapback, however, gun absolutists will have mostly themselves to blame.
What you 'believe' amounts to less worth than a pile of horse manure.
Actually it restricts "government authority". That makes all gun laws in violation of the Second Amendment. I hear a lot being said about the intent of the Second Amendment when it was written. If you consider that the "Town Square" was originally the place where the Militia drilled and that each municipality was responsible for equipping their Militia. That's where the cannon in the Square came from. Since that Militia was made up of people from the municipality, it makes the case that we should be able to own military grade firepower. That throws just about every gun law out the window.
Flight-ER-Doc — Nah, '"shall not be infringed," applies to the whole amendment, with the prefatory clause attached. After you lop that off, there have to be all kind of adjustments to get the thing back into working order. Nutcases abound who think otherwise, but why should you let that company include you?
I'm sorry, here I thought you were literate. I'm obviously mistaken.
The fact that the words "Shall not be infringed" seems to be incomprehensible to you must be an indication of either your poor comprehension of basic English, or is a result of some prior head trauma which has damaged your reading comprehension center.
If it is the former, I can only blame our poor education system. If it is the latter I can only offer my sorrow and pity.
Are you a First Amendment absolutist, too?
Have you considered that your views might be the reason you are mired in our can't-keep-up backwaters, unable to cut it in a modern, educated, reasoning, accomplished community?
You mean gun shootin' areas like big cities?
'develop better ideas'?
You couldn't develop a Instamatic photograph.
Rev. thinks that "assuming that legal enactments mean what they say" should be added to that list of "Aspects and Assumptions of Whiteness" indicators on the Smithsonian's infamous poster.
Huh...the 9th Circuit rules for gun rights.
But there are some nice lines in this decision.
1. "I agree wholeheartedly with the majority opinion, which
is not terribly surprising since I wrote it."
Classic.
2. "I’m not a prophet, but since
this panel just enforced the Second Amendment, and this is
the Ninth Circuit, this ruling will almost certainly face an en
banc challenge. This prediction follows from the fact that
this is always what happens when a three-judge panel
upholds the Second Amendment in this circuit. "
Yes, Volohk pointed it out already, but it's still amusing.
But...the cheekiness of the fake dissent. What is this? The comments section of the Volohk Conspiracy?
"But...the cheekiness of the fake dissent. What is this? The comments section of the Volokh Conspiracy?"
Let's not insult the comments section here. It's Judge Van Dyke who, in his short time on the bench, has proven to be unworthy of even the most obnoxious commenters here.
Hey now...he's no "Wise Latina" spewing out false facts about COVID from the bench.
Yeah, if you like disaffected, whiny humor from society's losers, this stuff is great.
It will be Jon Stewart who gets the Twain Prize, however -- for mocking people like these two obsolete judges.
(A better writer would have recognized that "because" should have replaced "since," but this guy likely hired a clerk for clinger ideology rather for than writing ability.)
Oh, poor Rev. The en banc 9th circuit may overturn this...but the SCOTUS will overturn the en banc decision.
Who is the ultimate whiny loser now?
Perhaps you should stop trying to advocate for stripping away people's Constitutional Rights.
People like me will continue to stomp people like you into muttering irrelevance in the culture war.
We've been doing it for 50 years, to the point at which most of what you offer our current society is bitter, obsequious compliance with the preferences of your betters as you await replacement.
I am content.
People like you...Stalin, Mao, and Chavez, and others who like to strip the freedoms and liberties from the people...so their "betters" can have them.
"I am content."
Not how you behave here, you are not.
I enjoy mocking clingers. I believe they should be not only defeated by their betters but also scorned and mocked.
I blame my education and character for my preferences (reason, science, progress, inclusiveness, freedom, modernity, education).
Here is how this works: The Volokh Conspirators get to nip incessantly, lamely, and misleadingly at the ankles of mainstream America, leveraging the franchises of their employers for perceived partisan advantage. Their misfit fans gets to cheer them on. I get to point out that these clingers are bigoted, superstitious, obsolete, hypocritical losers.
We get to point out that you are a soulless loser who projects being a loser by trolling a comment section. What an insipid life you must have, this apparently being the only source of entertainment available to you.
The Rev.'s vision of the future literally involves a boot stomping on a clinger's face--forever.
That's the violence inherent in the left.
As well as being a joke, VanDyke's dissent is intended to throw caltrops in the path of the en banc majority, as they hasten to overrule him. Not only do they have to write an opinion contradicting him, they have to make it look unlike his spoof.
No wonder the ABA tried to spike his nomination.
Nah, I'd be more amused if they just take his fake opinion verbatim.
So for the 9th Circuit Court en banc....
"While we could write a full opinion regarding the overturning of the previous decision, one of our honorable colleagues has already done us the honor of working through the legal logic. And while he may not have agreed with the decision of that legal reasoning, we as the en banc court do. So, rather than re-invent the wheel, we will simply use that opinion, in its entirety. We would like to thank Judge Van Dyke for the writing of such an excellent piece of legal scholarship.
That seems like a good way to invite a Supreme Court Smackdown. I expect several justices would point out that wholesale adoption of a hypothetical dissent, written by someone who decided that dissent was legally flawed, looks like a purely political decision rather than a judicial one.
No more than the concurrence itself.
This was incredibly childish and immature. I’m generally sympathetic to the majority result, but VanDyke is being a brat. Adopt his decision en banc or overrule it without opinion.
You don't think that exercising either one of those options would make the Ninth Circuit look like a whole bunch of childish brats?
Do you think better Americans care what the bitter, disaffected clingers think any more?
This country becomes less White, less bigoted, less rural, less backward, and less religious each day. For conservatives, who have already been getting their deplorable asses kicked in America for decades, this means . . . as Alvin Firpo would say, connect the dots.
You seem entranced by your fantasies of violence perpetrated against your political enemies by others (not yourself of course, since you're nothing more than a mewling coward hiding behind a computer screen and fake name)
Under any degree of objective review, ALL the 9th circuit en banc decisions on gun control look purely political. The Supreme court isn't letting them stand because they're brilliantly persuasive, they're letting them stand because it's the Second amendment, and, really the Justices think they've got more important things to do than upholding the 2nd amendment.
It's possible. It's also possible the SCOTUS is annoyed with Van Dyke's snark, and that the en banc court adopting Van Dyke's argument would "serve him right"
Even if they are annoyed by his behavior, isn't the right solution to use some sort of judicial disciplinary proceeding rather than to let a bad opinion stand just to spite a subordinate judge?
Disciplinary proceeding for what exactly? Being snarky in an opinion?
Accurately snarky, at that.
This will not involve one of the backwater Bible Belt circuits; the relevant circuit is dominated by advanced, educated, reasoning populations; perhaps the appellate panel will see the provocation and respond per curiam.
Or perhaps the case will meander long enough to reach an 11- or 13-member Supreme Court.
When closures of gun stores were first occurring it was obvious to me that they were violating the constitution, because there were obviously ways to handle gun sales, other states still managed to allow them, there were states finding ways to manage sales of other goods that people might consider non-essential, and because private ownership of firearms has been incorporated as a right and the way infringements on rights are treated made this unlikely to pass muster.
I that pretty much the same thing when I heard that there was a state trying to ban abortion because 'it tied up hospital personnel during a pandemic' (something along those lines.
Is your 13 person Supreme Court going to approve banning gun sales and abortions during states of emergency?
Which forms of commerce are essential?
Wish I had the power to decide that question.
That is hilarious!
I agree with pretty much all of the substance Judge VanDyke's analysis, and I think he's pretty much spot on as far as the Ninth Circuit's bad-faith hoplophobia. And I surely would have enjoyed a sensible chuckle had he told me that he was thinking about doing this. But there's a difference between making a joke to your friends and actually putting it in the pages of the Federal Reporter, and I think restraint would have been the better course here.
Though I suppose if you're trying to make President DeSantis's Supreme Court shortlist you have to do a little hustling to rise above the noise.
Indeed. I call these efforts "peacocking." Van Dyke is showing himself to be a bigger showbird than my boy Jim Ho. He a peacock Godzilla.
On the contrary, I think he's justified in giving the en banc the finger. Not that they're capable of being embarrassed, but they still deserve it. And their own decisions on gun control are no less frivolous, and much less honest.
I agree with Brett on this issue.
😮
Didn't they encourage you to recognize that you should keep some of your opinions to yourself in autism school?
Your special ed. teachers continue to let you off the short bus at the wrong stop, don't they?
At my son's middle school they had an autistic kid who used to get that, "short bust," taunt a lot. Toward the end of 7th grade, the school district started sending the real short bus around to pick that kid up, mid-morning, and take him to the high school.
When the other middle school kids caught up to, "short bus," at the high school, they discovered he already had the valedictorian spot sewed up—before they even got started. That pissed off some of the parents whose kids had been sneering, "short bus." The parents complained it wasn't fair that, "short bus," had made their kids look dim. Bystanders snickered at the complainers.
And all that means what?
Rather than blather, make a point.
Fortis, don't get the point? Here's another true story.
My state's schools began to publish school-by-school academic achievement test results (anonymized of course). That made the local Director of Special Education unhappy. She did not think it reasonable that her disabled students be compared to non-disabled others—never mind that most of the disabled did not in fact suffer cognitive impairment—if taught by means tailored to overcome disability-related interference with their learning.
When the statewide test results came out, the local Special Education Director didn't look good. Enterprising parents of special education kids drew up a chart for a school board meeting. It showed that in districts elsewhere, in every test scoring category statewide—at every grade level—there was at least one—sometimes several, sometimes many—special education classes which outperformed the same-grade-level scores posted by regular education classes in our district.
So then the School Administrator thought the comparison unreasonable. It took longer than it should have to get rid of them both.
Special education dollars tend to be well spent. Arguably, they can be the most constructively-spent dollars in any school system's budget. Prejudiced remarks, ("short bus," for instance), display a casual malice you ought to keep to yourself. Get the point?
Part of being a good person (and, for that matter, an effective persuader) is being better than your adversaries, not racing to sink to their level.
How many good people or effective persuaders do you observe at the Volokh Conspiracy? Mostly, I see disaffected misfits.
Yes, you do keep looking in that mirror, just like the narcissistic asshole you always show yourself to be.
Let these obsolete, backwater right-wingers have their chuckle or two before their betters close out the culture war with a few more decisive strikes.
Do any of you genuinely believe these superstitious bigots -- Judge Van Dyke is an unqualified, superstitious gay-basher from way back in our can't-keep-up stretches, sporting a degree from Bear Valley Bible Institute, believe it or not-- are going to prevail in America's modern marketplace of ideas? This hayseed is merely arranging his side's conditions of surrender.
He also has a degree from Harvard.
I believe some of the better schools continue to admit some hayseeds as part of a push for diversity. They seem to figure exposing better students to some knuckle-draggers from the can't-keep-up communities will broaden the experience. The practice traces back to Dick Cheney, at least.
I think his concurrence was a bit snarky but not beyond the pale… until he got to the part with the fake opinion complete with snide footnotes.
Snarky concurrence with snide footnotes is beyond the pale... but the en banc majority bending over backwards / using specious reasoning to deny millions of people their constitutional rights is A-OK!
Legally it certainly holds up, but as a non-American, the way the decision presents all gun-related activities as essential to people's safety is so hard to fathom. I always get culture shock when I realize how fundamental it is to many Americans.
But yeah, as long as there's a Second Amendment and that pesky militia clause doesn't have any legal effect, I don't see how you can rule any other way. If it's a fundamental right it's a fundamental right.
Personally, I wish they would give that pesky militia clause legal effect; As the Miller Court ruled, it means Americans are entitled to own military firearms.
It's a historical/cultural thing.
The US had a frontier/independent culture for a long time, where defense was left to the individual / family / community...not the state. This involved either defense against wild animals or bandits or potentially even invading troops (armies or native Americans), in the form of the militia. Keep in mind, in this context, the "militia" was every able bodied man. Literally speaking, every man in the neighborhood would be armed, and ready to take up arms as needed, with their neighbors.
The other thing to keep in mind here, is when the British tried to suppress the American colonies, the first thing they did was try to take away the gunpowder and arms.
There are a few other countries which have this idea of "citizens defense". Switzerland and Czechia are often used. When the Nazis, then Soviets invaded and ruled Czechia, they...unsurprisingly...got rid of this long standing freedom.
Other countries don't have this concept of citizen's defense. The defense of the realm is the domain of the state. The King and/or government owns the guns, and is responsible for defense...not the citizens. You should expect to have a troop of army soldiers stationed to protect your village...you aren't expected to protect it yourself. That's the King's/army/government's job.
The British tried to take away arms. The Nazis took away arms. The soviets to away arms. The maoists took away arms. The ayatollahs took away arms. There's a pattern here...and many people in the US would rather have arms, with all those risks, than not have arms, with all those risks.
The US had a frontier/independent culture for a long time, where defense was left to the individual / family / community...not the state.
When it comes to threats like violent crime that situation has not changed, and likely never will change. Defense is still up to the individual.
Can this be heard en banc and then be dismissed as moot as gun stores and ranges are open now or are the challenged restrictions still in place and just "on hold" due to a court order?
If were to happen does that eliminate all precedential value of this decision?
Such a strategy would save the full (well 50%) court from figuring out how not to make their ruling overturning this panel's decision not sound remarkably like Judge VanDyke's suggested justification and could avoid the risk of being bench-slapped by SCOTUS.
(I would have to somewhat agree those that suggest that Judge VanDyke's opinion isn't the most professional, it is pretty funny and rings true. And it slightly boxes in the full court if they end up hearing the case as they might feel it necessary to avoid their opinion sounding to much like VanDyke's proffered one. However, I get the feeling that Judge VanDyke isn't going to get assigned to a very good seat at the Ninth Circuit's 2022 Holiday Soiree.)
The plaintiffs requested (nominal) damages for the violation, so I don't believe lifting the restrictions would moot the case under the Supreme Court's decision last year in Uzuegbunam v. Preczewski.
BadLib: The VanDyke opinion was spot-on, hilarious...and inappropriate. 🙂
Now I am intensely curious to see how this plays out.
Then I would suggest ALL shutdowns were also unconstitutional -- how many 9th Amendment rights were stomped on?
Hush, you're conservative, so you're supposed to be against 9th amendment rights. You got your talking points mixed up...
Nah, that's a misunderstanding. The 9th amendment states that a right being unenumerated doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But that only means that you have to independently establish its existence, not that the lack of enumeration is proof a right exists.
So, conservatives will properly agree that there are plenty of unenumerated rights, but the 9th amendment hardly obligates us to agree to the specific ones liberals want to claim.
Washington state found a "right to privacy" and put it there in their constitution via a republican process. It is in writing and both opponents and proponents can see it without the super-secret progressive decoder ring they hand out to leftist judges.
I know this is hard because leftists are 1) cheaters, unable to win via legislatures and convincing people to abandon freedom and morality are addicted to using the courts to impose their will on the people and 2) totalitarians angered by any dissent of current diktats and cannot stand any state defying your version of what should be.
And that is how freedom dies...
Hush, you're conservative, so you're supposed to be against 9th amendment rights. You got your talking points mixed up...
The depth of ignorance that statement betrays is astounding.
The right to bear arms ... shall not be infringed.
Imagine it saying the right to abortion (or buggery) shall not be infringed.
Understand now????
Do you think this is persuasive? Or otherwise productive?
That is the standard level of "legal argument" at this blog. Are you new here?
He may, or may not be, but you are definitely old here.
You cannot polish a turd and no amount of rumination's on emanations from penumbras will change that.
Actually Mythbusters proved that you could indeed polish a turd.
Mythbusters Polishing a Turd
I stand corrected! 🙂
Wouldn't want it to be get-out-of-jail-free cards for churches only...
What about my right to a jury trial for my slip and fall case worth more than $25???
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THAT EVEN IN "NORMAL" TIMES!
VanDyke's concurrence is either the most or second most appallingly unprofessional inappropriate thing I've seen in an appellate opinion. The competition is Judge Silberman's bizarre and unhinged media bias rant. It sure looks like the ABA was right about this guy when they said he "is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-today practice including procedural rules. There was a theme that the nominee lacks humility, has an “entitlement” temperament, does not have an open mind, and does not always have a commitment to being candid and truthful."
Democrats hate the Constitution and individual rights.