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Prof. Philip Hamburger (Columbia) on the Nondelegation Doctrine
Prof. Hamburger has a very interesting article on this, Nondelegation Blues; the abstract:
The nondelegation doctrine is in crisis. For approximately a century, it has been the Supreme Court's answer to questions about transfers of legislative power. But as became evident in Gundy v. United States, those answers are wearing thin. So, it is time for a new approach.
This Article examines the Constitution's treatment of the problem. Whereas other scholarship tends to focus narrowly on a single concept, whether delegation or vesting, this piece takes a more ecumenical approach. It uncovers layers of relevant concepts, showing how each contributes to the Constitution's vision.
For example, it is necessary to consider the principles of consent, different powers, separation, and exclusivity before one gets to delegation. Although the Framers voted against permitting any congressional delegation, they did not rest content with delegation language. Instead, they drafted the Constitution in terms of vesting. But not just vesting, for Constitution says that its powers "shall be vested." Far from merely a transfer of the powers, this was an express declaration of their mandatory location.
The Article thereby goes far beyond existing scholarship in showing how fundamental principles, drafting assumptions, and text were all aligned in barring transfers of power among the branches of government. Rarely in constitutional law does a conclusion about a highly contested question rest on such a powerful combination of underlying principles, framing assumptions, and text.
The Article also shows the refinement of the Constitution's approach. The Constitution's sophistication has not been much appreciated in the scholarly literature. But it will be seen that the Constitution was anything but crude in barring transfers of powers. For example, it adopted the separation of powers not in an absolute way, but as a default principle.
While it precluded the transfer of legislative power, it left much room for executive rulemaking. Even though its powers were externally exclusive, they were not always exclusive internally—that is, some of them could be subdelegated within the branches of government. And the eternally exclusive powers permitted much nonexclusive authority to be exercised under those powers. Wherever one stands on the transfer of legislative power, these distinctions are important and need to be recognized as qualifying the larger point about the location of legislative power.
Not merely a technical doctrinal question about the distribution of powers, the problem here is bound up with more visceral social and political values. Judges and academics tend to discuss it if it were merely a matter of doctrine, unconnected to larger questions of expanded suffrage and untainted by unwholesome animosities. But this fails to acknowledge the underlying legacy of prejudice and the enduring reality of discrimination and disenfranchisement.
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I don't mind the Supreme Court inventing doctrines out of whole cloth. That's clearly their job, given that the judicial power was vested in them (and the other courts). But if you're going to discuss such an "invented" doctrine, at least have the decency to place it in the small-c constitution, not in the capital-C written Constitution.
Judicial review, and executive regulation are law making, no matter the lawyer bullshit. All lawmaking power is given to the Congress. Congress must approve these new laws from the bench and from the executive, or they are void.
Some of these conservative legal scholars would be much better as Rabbis in Yeshiva spending years student a few lines of Torah to tell us what they really mean.
This is my thought exactly.
Let them sit and gesture with their thumbs ("drehen mit den grossen finger") all they want.
But recognize that they are not doing anything else.
I don't understand why a huge part of our society demands we be ruled by unelected, unaccountable, civil servants?
These people literally killed vets by putting them on secret waitlists for bonuses and when they got caught, they still got their bonuses and the Federal Class shuffled them around so we wouldn't know they were ever held accountable.
The Federal Class actively oppresses us while raking in top 5% incomes and retirements off our backs. It's sickening, but for some reason the modern Leftist worships these people and wants them to control every iota of our lives.
I don't understand why a huge part of our society doesn't know what a strawman is. Funny that.
You ought to look at the comments some time.
Personally, I don't think delegation of and in itself is the problem.
Ultimately, what I see as the problem is investing a single agency with both rule making and enforcement power.
If I had a magic wand to wave and set the rules. I would set it up with legislative agencies answerable directly and only to Congress that have rule-making, but no enforcement power and executive agencies answerable to the President with enforcement but no rule making power.
Within the current scheme, I think there are a couple of rules that are necessary (I don't know if or to what extent these apply today)
1. Delegations of rule making authority must be explicit and unambiguous.
2. As a consequence of rule 1, agencies can not be assumed to implicitly have the power to make rules to fill in gaps or clarify ambiguities in the underlying statutes passed by congress.
I’ve actually thought about a scheme like that too.
Congress is, when it wants to be, capable of supervising legislative agencies whose underlying research is relatively independent (like the CRS, CBO, or GAO). The rules should be whatever congress wants….but the technical expertise that gets there shouldn’t have too much political interference.
The congressional environment office could have its own scientists and labs needed to produce the research in support of the draft rules that Congress could approve.
But if we’re doing wand waving anyway….I’d just scrap presidentialism in favor of a parliamentary democracy of some sort where this delegation problem wouldn’t be that big of an issue.
Still, agencies should recommend to Congress, not dictate law into existence. Removing the politics is a bug, not a feature, of democracy.
That which many fear, they scream as awesomr in many other contects.
Democracy! We care about it. Until we don't.
If you think delegating rule-making authority to a legislative agency under the direct supervision of Congress would remove politics from the process you are delusional.
The Executive agencies are not the problem per se. The problem is Congress was elected to make most of the decisions it has delegated to Executive agencies.
Congress delegates so it won't be held accountable in the voting booth for an unpopular voting record.
"The Executive agencies are not the problem per se."
I didn't say they were. The problem, in my opinion, is having delegated rule making power and enforcement power in the same agency. Separate legislative agencies to hold delegations of rule making power is just one possible solution.
This abstract is abysmally written. I have no interest in trudging through an article-length's worth of prose like this, to try to figure out what the author is trying to say.
No need. What he's trying to say is that administrative law is unconstitutional, and that businesses should be able to do what they please.
He also thinks public schools are unconstitutional. Seriously. Regardless of the fact attendance is not compulsory and parents can choose a different educational path for their kids he thinks they’re still unconstitutional.
He’s a crank.
He also wants to dismantle separation of church and state. He has contended our legal system (whose Supreme Court has a Catholic majority, I believe) is hostile to Catholicism. In particular, he is worried that modern American society is insufficiently deferential toward 'traditional' and 'orthodox' Americans.
Columbia erred when it provided a platform to this crackpot. I hope Columbia avoids another mistake alone this line. I hope every strong, mainstream law schools avoids such mistakes.
Columbia erred when it provided a platform to this crackpot.
A predictable outcome of affirmative action for RWNJ's.
Yeah, this amount of puffery seems a bit much.
But I don't know the biz where he's playing at it.
"So his parents made hamburgers at some point?"
"No, they probably came from Hamburg, Germany."
"Is that where hamburgers come from? How are they not ham?"
Now I have to look it up. Burg is city or something...ahh, fort or castle.
Ham is...Hamma is unknown origin.
Great. As we all knew all along, hamburgers are made of unknown meat.
"Not merely a technical doctrinal question about the distribution of powers, the problem here is bound up with more visceral social and political values. Judges and academics tend to discuss it if it were merely a matter of doctrine, unconnected to larger questions of expanded suffrage and untainted by unwholesome animosities. But this fails to acknowledge the underlying legacy of prejudice and the enduring reality of discrimination and disenfranchisement"
I'm sorry, where did this come from?
I agree, that paragraph didn't sound like it belonged to the same article.
(I realize this is an abstract, and maybe there's some connection in the actual article, but this sounds like its from the abstract of a different article).
Although the Framers voted against permitting any congressional delegation,
Not saying that did not happen. Just saying I do not remember seeing it. Any help? I'm having a hard time understanding why there is controversy over delegation if there is some kind of vote like that and it is unambiguous.
Constitutional fan fiction is big thing in conservative legal/judicial circles
Isn’t it obvious that the “Framers”* banned delegation by using the phrase “shall be vested”? I mean they wouldn’t just say “no delegations of legislative powers” - that’d be too easy. Must find the hidden meaning of our holy Framers.
*In conservative constitutional fan fiction, ”Framers” is a unitary entity with one singular intent - similar to how the word for God in ancient Hebrew is in plural form but understood to be a singular entity.
Then the fun really begins when you begin to parse the delegations the early Congresses either made or didn't make to the Executive. The use and abuse of history, that's what much Originalism is really all about.
Even better, there's the 1787 Northwest Ordinance, which delegated wide-ranging lawmaking powers to executive branch officials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Ordinance#Establishment_of_territorial_government
The paper has a cite INS v Chadha quoting Justice White about the problem. INS v. Chadha should be overturned in order to strengthen nondelegation and separation of powers; it would enable Congress to provide oversight.
Justice Reinquist's dissent was entirely accurate in that case; Chadha has resulted in making it impossible for Congress to restrain the executive, because one third of one house of Congress is sufficient to prevent Congress from contravening the Executive.