The Volokh Conspiracy
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When the attorney argues the wrong case, or when the professor teaches the wrong class.
It has happened to the best of us.
Last week, an attorney began arguing a case before the Ninth Circuit. It quickly became apparent that he was arguing the wrong case. The lawyer had another Ninth Circuit appeal scheduled two weeks later. Somehow, he inverted the arguments. After everyone realized the situation, the panel gave the lawyer a 10 minute recess. He switched gears, and argued the correct case. You can watch the video, starting around the 4 minute mark.
This sort of slip-up can happen to the best of us. There but for the grace of God go I.
Several years ago, I was scheduled to teach Property I and Property II on the same day. On the first day of class, for whatever reason, I thought that Property II was in the morning and Property I was in the afternoon. But in reality, Property I was in the morning, and Property II was in the afternoon. Of course, the schedule was correct on my calendar. But in the haste of the first day, I didn't bother looking.
Shortly before class began, I quickly glanced at the photo roster. I recognized the face of a student who had attended my 1L orientation session. (He had a very distinctive beard, that stuck out in my memory). Huh, I thought? How could a 1L be taking a 2L class. Then it hit me. The student was a 1L. Property I was in the morning. With about 2 minutes before class started, I quickly re-oriented myself. Fortunately, I had already prepped for both classes, so there was no problem. The students never knew the difference. But I had a mini-freakout moment.
All too often students tell me that they read the wrong assignment for class. I have sympathy in such cases. But I also try to call out their bluffs. I will usually ask the students to discuss the case they allegedly read. Sometimes they can. Other times, they lied.
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I nicked myself shaving about two weeks ago.
I'm sure your legs will be fine.
4 boys go to chem prof on Mon afternoon: "So sorry we missed your exam this morning. We were out-of-town for w/e and had a blowout on hwy. Can we make it up?"
“Ofc. Come to my office tmw morning to take a makeup exam.”
Tuesday morning the prof escorts the boys to separate borrowed offices to take the exam.
Pg 1 has a fairly standard Problem 1. (5 pts)
Pg 2 reads Problem 2. (95 pts)
Which tire?
You remind me of an old, probably apocryphal story.
A freshmen philosophy professor put a single question on the final exam:
What is courage?
One student answered: This is.
He got an A.
The version I heard was:
Q. Why?
A. Why not?
I've heard "Why?" "Because." It's a good story. 🙂
Answers to the famous 'Final Exam'
Answers at link above.
Years ago I watched an episode of Jeopardy! on which there was an answer, the question to which was supposed to include the name of Pres. John Adams' wife. A contestant buzzed in and immediately experienced a brief synaptic misfire, which he recovered from by answering, "Who is Mrs. Adams?" Alex Trebek was so amused by the stunt that he actually let the response stand.
Try preparing for the wrong piano concerto :
https://www.classicfm.com/artists/maria-joao-pires/guides/wrong-piano-concerto/
"Sometimes they can. Other times, they lied."
Sometimes they tell the truth.
Other times they tell their alternative truth.
Get with the modern phrasing.
I once flew internationally to take the wrong exam. Did pretty good, too.
I do this on purpose, typically after spring break ... start teaching the wrong material to see how long it will take someone in class to speak up and stop me. It is part of an important lesson to the class to think for themselves and speak up if they see something wrong.
Have they ever let you get to the end of the semester?
During moot court in law school, I started arguing the wrong side of the argument. The panel gave me 5 minutes to collect myself before resuming.
It's not a nightmare as long as you're still wearing pants.
What if they're M.C. Hammer's pants?
Law Prof gives a final exam in multi-form: The Assize of Clarendon was enacted in (a) 1160 (b) 1161 (c) 1162 (d) 1163. When Prof monitors the exam, he finds several students flipping coins. The next semester Prof announces that if he catches any students flipping coins to answer the exam questions, he'll fail them.
Prof monitors the next exam and catches one student flipping a coin. Prof: Didn't I tell you that if I cartch anyone flipping a coin to answer my exam, I'll fail them? Student: But Prof, I wasn't flipping the coin to answer the exam questions. I was just checking my answers!
Sure, but at the end of the day they only hurt themselves with that lie.
Law students aren't UGs and they should be given the rope to hang themselves because if they only read the pieces for class bc they fear you'll disapprove or catch them out they won't learn what they need to do to learn themselves and that varies from person to person. If they are able to Ace the final despite never reading the material before class more power to them.
Most valuable thing I learned as an UG is what I needed to do to learn the material for my classes. In my case that was mostly skip lecture (verbal material without stop/rewind is useless to me ...at least in math, my major) but spend the time to read the book and focus on the hw. But in other classes I learned I did need to attend and focus and having profs who didn't try and push me into their learning more or worse demand I attend and have read the material for their ego was key.
90% of students will learn they need to do the std thing but it really matters they learn that's what they need to do or they won't learn rather than that's what they need to do or Prof will be mad at them or doc them participation points.
Comprimises must be made when teaching UGs but law students can and should be treated like graduate students.
“but it really matters they learn that’s what they need to do or they won’t learn rather than that’s what they need to do or Prof will be mad at them or doc them participation points.”
Should have been:
but it really matters they learn that’s what they need to do to learn the material rather than that’s what they need to do to not have the Prof be mad at them or doc participation points.
"but it really matters they learn that’s what they need to do or they won’t learn rather than that’s what they need to do or Prof will be mad at them or doc them participation points."
Should have been:
but it really matters they learn that’s what they need to do to learn the material rather than that’s what they need to do to not have the Prof be mad at them or doc participation points.