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    1. Nope, left out Biden and Harris.

      Anyone who think either set is a good sign is an idiot.

      1. I’ll grant you that Pence doesn’t belong. But Trump is the only one of the four that isn’t a normal functioning adult. It greatly disappoints me that his base sees him as their defender against the elite from both parties, instead of the nutjob he is.

        1. “his base sees him as their defender against the elite from both parties, instead of the nutjob he is.”

          The disappointment is that you think there is a contradiction, when both are in fact the case.

          I think of Trump as the wrecking ball president. It’s crude and ugly, but sometimes you have to just knock down the building.

          Perhaps if someone normal did the things that Trump does, we would have a normal president rather than a nutjob.

          1. Indeed, sometimes it’s best to undermine American confidence in our own elections, while screaming that States that he’s ahead in should stop counting votes, and States he’s behind in are due to widespread voter fraud.

            That’s really what America needs, right? Why bother being a leader as President, when instead you can be a toddler and idiots on the internet will defend anything you say or do as ‘necessary?’

            1. He learned well when he was a Democrat. A little more self reflection would help both the left and the president I agree.

              1. It is entirely plausible Trump could have run as a liberal Democrat if that was his easiest path to the White House. Had he done so, and he had implemented policies that I agree with 100%, I would still never vote for him.

          2. Trump is not intentionally knocking down the building and he doesn’t care about his base. Being the nutjob he is, he cares only about himself and any knocking down is strictly incidental.

            1. Which makes no difference to his base. Every time you type something, you show how clueless you are.

              Try to think outside your box. You have a choice — vote for Trump and keep your job, or vote for Biden and lose your job, and remain on the dole for the rest of your life.

              Be honest and leave the snark aside. Would you not seriously consider voting for Trump, with all his many faults?

              1. I would counter your job can’t depend on Trump because he is only in it for himself, not you.

                1. You can lead the horse to water, but you can’t make him take the blinders off. (So I mixed a metaphor. Arrest me.)

              2. Anyone who seriously believes that the choices are vote for Trump and keep your job, or vote for Biden and lose your job, is far too divorced from reality to have a conversation with. The monumental level of stupid required to believe that boggles the mind.

                Which is not to say that some people don’t believe it — obviously a lot of people do. They could equally as well believe in palmistry, phrenology or things that go bump in the night.

              3. Alternatively, you could rethink that assumption about your job.

        2. Why do so many people find it so difficult to understand Trump’s success? What you really mean is that Trump is the only non-politician, and that is why he got elected. Everyone knows what real politicians do — lie, cheat, steal, say whatever it takes to stay in power. Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize before inauguration, then proceeded to wage war like nobody’s business. That is what politicians do, and what Trump didn’t do. Idiot he may be, economic ignoramus, crude, rude, and in your face — but he is not a politician, and a lot of people respect him for that alone. You can keep your “normal functioning politicians”, they say.

          1. I understand Trump’s success (you put it quit well). What disappoints me is people don’t realize he doesn’t care about them any more than regular politicians do.

            1. Do you understand the difference between motivation and action?

              Do you understand that someone’s action, taken for wholly selfish reasons, can benefit you? In fact, that is the bread and butter of most politicians.

              1. Of course, Trump’s actions might sometimes be beneficial no matter the motive. But, I wish people would realize that’s luck, not the norm.

                1. Trump does not set his policies by rolling a pair of dice on the White House floor. He has crafted them to appeal to a segment of the American people. If his policies benefit someone, it is not “luck” but the fact that his policies conform to the benefit of his voters, as they see it.

                  1. They say they understand Trump, then say things showing they don’t have even the vaguest clue. They praise “adult” politicians, pretending to understand them too, and they don’t.

              2. It is also at the heart of free markets.

                It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest.

                Adam Smith was one observant cookie.

  1. And for those wondering why many supported Trump. VP candidate gave an interview:

    “We will take immediate steps to restore economic and humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people, address the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, reopen the U.S. consulate in East Jerusalem and work to reopen the PLO mission in Washington,” she said in a recent interview with the Arab American News.

    The Trump administration has virtually cut off all U.S. aid to the Palestinian Authority due to Ramallah’s “pay to slay” program, rewarding terrorists and their families, in accordance with the Taylor Force Act. The PLO mission was closed in October 2018.

    So Harris, who is not yet even confirmed as VP, is promising to both break the law and fund PA terrorism. Fits into the prior Democratic administration’s giving a billion to that great supporter of terrorism, Iran.

    And one wonders why people voted for Trump, despite being a “nutjob.”

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