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Trump Adviser's 3rd-Grade Teacher Dishes: Look How Weird He Was at Age 8
Oddly enough, not in The Onion!
Rather, it's in The Hollywood Reporter, a serious entertainment industry publication (to be sure, in a very left-leaning industry). Here's the key passage:
Do you remember that character in Peanuts, the one called Pig Pen, with the dust cloud and crumbs flying all around him? That was Stephen Miller at 8. I was always trying to get him to clean up his desk — he always had stuff mashed up in there. He was a strange dude. I remember he would take a bottle of glue — we didn't have glue sticks in those days — and he would pour the glue on his arm, let it dry, peel it off and then eat it.
I remember being concerned about him — not academically. He was OK with that, though I could never read his handwriting. But he had such strange personal habits. He was a loner and isolated and off by himself all the time.
At the end of the year, I wrote all my concerns — and I had a lot of them — in his school record. When the school principal had a conference with Stephen's parents, the parents were horrified. So the principal took some white-out and blanked out all my comments….
Is it just me, or is that a rather unprofessional way for a teacher to talk about one of her then very young students? (I set aside occasional reminiscences that are clearly meant fondly, either of the "how cute he was in his oddness" or "look how far he's come" variety.) If my boys some day make it big, should I expect their teachers to write up stories about how supposedly weird and awful they were when they were, literally, eight years old?
Thanks to InstaPundit for the pointer.
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'twould be funny indeed if someone were to dig up the teacher's past teachers and find something similarly nonsensical, except of course The Hollywood Reporter would never publish it.
I honestly do not know if it is only the Left which pulls these kinds of stunts, or if they just get more publicity because Hillary lost. But it sure seems indicative of people who had nothing serious in the first place.
Well, one of Hillary Clinton's high school teachers discussed her with the press in August 2016, in the Tampa Bay Times (the link is over 50 characters long, so it isn't allowed here....)
I suspect it's fairly common on both sides of the aisle.
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Yes, the high school teacher did speak about Hillary Clinton -- to praise her. The norm I'm referring to isn't some sort of total confidentiality privilege (as with priests or psychologists or lawyers not discussing things said to them in confidence); rather, it's that you don't publicly embarrass someone by talking about what a weird child they were and how they did icky things.
Teachers are unsophisticated. Film at 11.
I took a brief informal survey at all the leftwing sites carrying this and the majority of commentators are unironically joining in on the 8 year old bashing. So I feel secure in my reconfirmed view of the classiness of progs.
Not a teacher, but bluntly, if I had a spent a significant amount of time in a mentor role with someone who turned into an internment camp enthusiast, I'd have to reflect on whether I could have done something differently.
Sad to see an otherwise excellent thinker like Eugene get the vapors now that it isn't his team dishing it, but whining (pious pearl-clutching or manbaby tantrum, doesn't seem to matter) seems to be the latest high-end conservative legal fad, I guess.
THINK OF THE CHILDREN! *5 mins later* WAH people don't like it when I attack 8 year olds WAH.
I doubt Mr Volokh got the vapors. He seems to have a pretty dry sense of humor.
If I had a serious blog, I hope I also would delight in throwing out oddball posts like this from time to time. This isn't his first and I hope it's not his last.
So, am I to take it that you think that this commentary on Steve Miller at 8 years old is both relevant, and not ridiculous at all?
Trump and his administration say many outrageous things, and do many outrageous things, but this sort of sensationalist reporting isn't a valid (or even effective) means of reining in their excesses.
Do we reallybwant to open the can of worms to October surprises on candidates from their idiotic childish pasts? The more embarrassing and derogatory and hurtful, the better?
If the deciding factor is the politician is going to do something awful you want to prevent, well, here we are.
Stephen Miller.
"reflecting" is not public shaming, its an internal dialogue.
What purpose does a story about a third grader serve other than moral preening by this [hopefully retired] teacher?
He's not a third grader any more, he's an adult in the halls of power and he's on the wrong team, so anything goes in the name of destroying his reputation.
Most people aren't stupid enough to consider an 8-year-old kid's behavior relevant to their future as an adult. Thanks for telling us that you (and people like you) are, in fact, at least that stupid.
"His team dishing it"?
("Internment Camp Enthusiast"? Look, leave Barack Obama out of this, okay?
I kid, but only a little.)
I didn't know Miller was related to FDR and Earl Warren.
As always, people who call a place you can leave at any time you want "an internment camp" are, well, not making themselves look good.
Generally speaking it doesn't seem right for a teacher to reveal confidences about his former students, but on the other hand, the classroom is in most respects a public place, where children's behavior is observed by the other children and perhaps by other teachers, staff, and parents. Commenting on public aspects of a former student's behavior is, at least, not obviously a violation of privacy. Of course there is also the question of how relevant an adult's childhood behavior is to the present. Sometimes it may be, but much of the time it really isn't, and so discussing it in a negative light is gratuitous badmouthing, what we Jews call lashon ha-ra.
The Internet may be forever, but the child's teacher's memory is not. The teacher is hired to care for and educate and raise the kid for hours a day.
"We'd like to hire you as a teacher. Any last things you'd like to say to help us decide?"
"Yes. I will record what students do that are odd and bring it up again when they are adults to hurt and embarrass them."
"I'm sorry, these are our beloved children, and there is the door."
I'll go one step further: what Bush or Kerry did or did not do in the VietNam War period was practically irrelevant to who they were or what they would do in 2004 onwards. If it were relevant, Clinton's VietNam record would have been worth running on.
Only Kerry chose to make his VietNam record a big issue.
No, adult actions do reflect on adult behavior. Kerry, for all his faults, at least did not pretend he was sorry to leave the combat zone with his third Purple Heart; those who tried to make him out as a traitor and coward only showed their own shallowness. A lot of people would have gladly dodged the draft with daddy's help as Bush did; he refused to admit it. He also dropped out of his required reserve service without permission, which is desertion even if only technically and the military was glad to get rid of its deadwood without wasting legal resources; but again, he refused to admit what many others also did.
But 3rd grade? I don't even remember most of the dumb things I did as a third grader, and I doubt they were any more indicative of my adult behavior than this example.
Bush and six other 147th TxANG pilots elected not to fly when TxANG announced their F102 delta was being phased out, and Gen. Hughes announced that pilots with less than two years left would not be retrained on the replacement F4 as a cost saving measure. Bush had enough performance points from his first four years to coast the last two years and still qualify for honorable discharge from the TxANG.
In the long run, I think the attacks on Kerry were on the same level as the attempt to blame McCain for the USS Forrestal fire. Just as bullshit as those "Killian" memos faked by Bill Burkett to attack Bush. Ugly partisan politics at it's lowest.
What I learned from this post and paying attention to both sides during the Great Kerry and Bush Kerfuffle:
"Joining the Air National Guard at a time they were being sent to combat, and learning to fly a dangerous [to even fly] fighter jet, at a time it was in use in Vietnam" = Coward.
"Joining the Navy and volunteering for the Swift boats at a time they were doing safe escort missions, then having that send you into combat" = Bravery.
Also, that hat is seared into his memory.
(Bush was nothing special; Kerry was always a sack of excrement, for a multitude of reasons.)
Those ANG Gulf of Mexico patrol units were explicitly exempted from going to Vietnam. The entire National Guard policy during Vietnam was well known to be reserved for real war, not that Vietnam side show.
Anyone who thinks Swift boat escort missions were safe or expected to be safe is an idiot grasping at straws.
Anyone who thinks flying a jet fighter aircraft is safe needs to look at the fatality rates for pilots.
Ok. What are the "fatality rates for pilots"?
Also, the haughty, French-looking Democrat, who, by the way, served in Vietnam Nam, still has that hat to this day!
How do you black out comments with white out? That's some trick?
It's unfortunate she didn't take the principal's advice. That much negativity wasn't helping the kid, then or now.
She's not exactly advertising her professionalism as a tracher. And if I were a principal or on a school board, it would make me question hiring her.
You use an overhead projector. 😉
They were blanked out not blacked out.
You're not woke. It clearly reflects white privilege to white out portions of a document detailing the childish behavior of an 8 year old child.
[sarcasm] Right on! "Blank" is a word used by South African Apartheidists. "Blanking" out derogatory comments with "white out" is definitely a racist exercise of white privilege. [/sarcasm]
That Hollywood Reporter and Huffington Post consider this story newsworthy should awaken something.
We're talking about someone who was a teacher at least 25 years ago. Is she even working anymore?
Does the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) create a private cause of action for violations by teachers? If so, the teacher who released this private educational information is looking at some pretty big liability. If I were Stephen Miller (who, under FERPA, became the "owner" of privacy rights in all of his educational records once he turned 18), I'd file suit against both the teacher, who wrongfully released private educational records of Stephen Miller in violation of Federal law, AND The Hollywood Reporter, which knew (or certainly should have known) that the release of such private educational records was in violation of Federal Law. Make the bastards pay!
Alas, FERPA's "teeth" (such as they are) derive from the threat of loss of federal funding for the school, not recompense for the individual harmed by the disclosure of the protected information. (To my [admittedly not comprehensive] knowledge, this has not happened to any public school or university, though there may have been federal fines in cases.) SCOTUS ruled in 2002 that one cannot bring a derivative action for FERPA violation under Section 1983.
I'm not in favor of "lawsuits for every occasion", but this does seem a case of egregiously "punching down" to mock an 8 year old, possibly one that is on the spectrum (what the described behavior brings to my mind).
So, what I'm seeing here is that he was...an introverted kid with a messy desk? Man, I'm glad I didn't go into politics.
He's also accused of eating glue.
IOW, he's accused of being an 8 year old.
Heh. You're not wrong.
I made sculptures out of my dandruff. Good thing I didn't aspire to any high position in government.
You should go back to doing that. And get a gallery showing for them. The art world will think you are a super creative genius.
I am a super creative genius... Engineer. I'm just not very artistic.
And I'm bald now, which makes that career change a bit problematic.
The sculptures don't need to be any good, the art world will go gaga over your odd choice of medium and buy them for $$$,$$$ no matter how ugly regular people think they are.
Does glue taste good? Do paint chips taste good?
In the mid- to late-60's I seem to recall that many individuals enjoyed the taste of Elmer's glue. I was not among them, though I did enjoy making fingerprint molds and casts of my palm with thin coats of glue from my squeeze bottle of Elmer's (which all kids had to have as an essential school supply). It didn't seem weird at the time, and although it's not nutritive, it is also not toxic, unlike many paint chips. Now, my messy desk was apparently on the extreme side . . . 😉
The typical school glue (like Elmer's Glue-All) is labelled "Safe, Non-Toxic".
that really doesn't help answer the question. Lots of things that are safe to eat taste terrible.
Exactly. (My handwriting was atrocious in those days, too. This surprises the people who know me now and say it looks like a font, but 8 year old me got "improvement needed" in handwriting, the lowest possible grade.)
This seems like the cool kids beating up on the oddball (who turns out to be a way more interesting adult, but that's neither here nor there).
I'm also rather bothered by revealing what happened during parent-teacher meetings. Even if the law allows her to do this, have some discretion, lady.
If you like stale, cruel bigotry, he's a dreamboat.
I am personally not at all surprised to see Reason commenters describe Miller, who by all accounts was a pointlessly contrarian, annoying sociopath that most people disliked throughout his school years, as an "oddball" who turned into an "interesting adult." I'm sure a lot of them identify with exactly that experience.
Full disclosure: I was also a pointlessly contrarian, annoying type in high school and college! But I didn't grow into a xenophobic asshole. I wonder how that happened...?
"I didn't grow into a xenophobic asshole"
Just the regular kind
This is .... garbage.
This... is... THE MEDIA!!!
Among the events of our time, this is the one a white, male, right-wing blog selects for mention?
Carry on, clingers. Do whatever you believe you need to do to try to prop up an electoral coalition for authoritarian, diffusely bigoted, old-timey conservative preferences.
Me? I'd take all of those 'big brains on Brett' and direct them toward trying to perfect a machine that mass-produces poorly educated, easily frightened, superstitious, grievance-consumed, economically anxious, selfish, rural, broadly intolerant, gun-fondling, southern white males. Maybe put the Federalist Society on the job of figuring how to register all of the newly emerged yahoos to vote.
"' and direct them toward trying to perfect a machine that mass-produces poorly educated, easily frightened, superstitious, grievance-consumed, economically anxious, selfish (....)"
That's called American higher education, and the results are called Millennials.
Perhaps Prof. Volokh should place his defense of Mr. Miller aside for the moment and come to the aid of another severely persecuted conservative, Melania Trump, who complained yesterday that she is 'the most bullied person in the world.'
Poor, poor, pitiful, persecuted rich white conservatives. Losing their country, disfavored by strong and mainstream institutions, watching unearned privilege dissolve, denied respect for superstition-based arguments in reasoned debate, wondering why their communities are on the wrong end of bright flight. Quite a tragedy.
Perhaps Prof. Volokh should place his defense of Mr. Miller
What defense? Be specific.
What do you mean by "What defense?"
Be specific.
specifically, the defense you were mentioning, you dunce. You can't remember one comment earlier?
Your constant projection of your own anxieties onto others is getting worse lately.
I can see why -- the staggering political losses keep piling up for the few who share your profoundly deranged viewpoint. And it appears this will get a lot worse for you before it gets better. Check out the hundreds of comments and ratings on yesterday's NYT article, "The Democrats Have an Immigration Problem." It just so happens that Democrat voters agree on the most fundamental level with the Trump and Steve Miller immigration agenda. And they agree on trade, too, even including Schumer. Poll after poll has supported this, although you wouldn't know it from the MSM.
"... the one ..."
I have actually read several issues mentioned by Eugene both for serious discussion and for passing mention.
Scroll down a bit.
Besides. The blog is Volokh Conspiracy. (I miss the occassional sci-fi movie reviews.) But it's Volokh's blog and he'll mention what he pleases.
A right-wing blogger should mention what he pleases.
Others can mention the cherry-picked, misleading, low-grade, partisan, political polemics masquerading as scholarly libertarian content.
A blog should include as contributors those its proprietor chooses.
Others can describe the strikingly white, odds- and modernity-defying male, right-wing, non-libertarian nature of that lineup.
May the best ideas win in the marketplace.
"Carry on, clingers."
What does this man have against Jamie Farr?
I occasionally link to photographs of Corporal Klinger.
A week ago we were treated to Conspiracy Commenters waving off sexual assaults by a nominee to the USSC because they happened so long ago. Today we're treated to Conspiracy Commemters wondering what can be done to a teacher who dared talk about the 8 year old version of a 71 year old man. Although, we are talking about a 71 year old man who said of himself:
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different."
So maybe this could be treated as a contemporary violation of confidence after all?
"A week ago we were treated to Conspiracy Commenters waving off sexual assaults by a nominee to the USSC because they happened so long ago."
If you can't advance your views without outright lies, maybe your views are crap?
Yet another unintentionally hilarious offering from Brett Bellmore. On a roll, buddy!
Were the claims of sexual assault waived off because the alleged incident happened "so long ago," or were they dismissed because the alleged victim cannot even establish that she has ever met the alleged perpetrator?
There are plenty of thorny questions surrounding the best way to handle acquaintance rape, but this isn't one of those situations.
I will concede there were SOME people who said "Even if he is guilty, it was so long ago so it shouldn't disqualify him," but that was far from the mainstream conservative position.
It was far from the expressed mainstream conservative position, you mean. The Kavanaugh whitewash was more of the usual conservative doublespeak/think. Most of them either completely disbelieved Ford or didn't think what Kavanaugh did was a big deal. They knew that was a poisonous view to take publicly, however, so they concocted a rather nebulous argument that didn't exactly hold together but had a vague gestalt of plausibility. Ergo: Why did Feinstein hold on to this for so long... who really leaked the details... does Ford really remember what happened... Kavanaugh is entitled to a presumption of innocence... just a smear job... Roe v. Wade... investigation was thorough... no you can't see it...
Complete nonsense. We knew from the beginning that there was no way she would be able to prove her allegations, and we aren't willing to throw out the presumption of innocence when it comes to sex crimes.
Right, that's how the "argument" goes!
Let me ask: Do you believe Ford's account? And do you think that, if her account were true, that it should have made any difference in confirming Kavanaugh?
No, I do not believe Ford's account, but if it were true, he should not have been confirmed.
If you really believed he shouldn't have been confirmed, if her account were true, then you should have supported a full FBI review of the available evidence, instead of the cursory investigation that we got. Did you?
I don't support fishing expeditions based on 11th hour accusations with zero corroborating evidence and where all others mentioned either deny it happened or say they don't know about it, or the circumstances, occurring.
I also don't support the Federal government investigating 11th hour, uncorroborated accusations that have still not been made to the appropriate local LEO agency.
Nor do I support efforts that are justified asking the lines of, "If you have nothing to hide, then what's it matter if the government (or anyone) continue investigating you indefinitely?"
What "available evidence"? What is your "full review"? The FBI did a background investigation, with a specific focus on the allegations.
But Ford couldn't name a time or a place. The event was alternately in the mid-80s, the early 80s, or 1982, somewhere near the Country Club. She named four potential witnesses, all of whom were interviewed and denied the accusations. There was no possibility for physical evidence after 30 years.
What, exactly, should the FBI have done? Since you think there was more that they could have done, you can obviously name it here. So, go ahead - tell us how the FBI could have proven or falsified Ford's claims.
The calls for the FBI investigation is like the leftist calls for "reasonable gun safety laws." They speak in platitudes and generalities, but are unable to name one concrete thing that could be done.
No. Because I knew with absolute certainly that there was no possible way to do an investigation besides talking to the three or four people allegedly involved.
I can't speak for others, but I was interviewed by one of the big-name papers in my state, and my entire thesis was that Ford seems like a decent human being, but her accusations are not credible.
(To the extent that anyone with good search engine skills can find it, please don't post it and completely "out" me.)
You task me. You task me and I shall have you. I'll chase you 'round the moons of Nebir and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round Perdition's FLAMES before I give you up.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.
Her accusations were not credible, based on what credible evidence?
The fact that she cannot even demonstrate that she ever met Brett Kavanaugh.
You seem to misunderstand the entire concept of credibility. "Credibility" is not to be disproved, but must be demonstrated by providing sufficient contemporaneous information that the statement is believable.
Ms. Ford was not credible because it isn't enough to say a sexual assault occurred where the only verifiable information is that she lived in the same approximate area as Kavenaugh.
You seem to misunderstand the entire concept of credibility. "Credibility" is not to be disproved, but must be demonstrated by providing sufficient contemporaneous information that the statement is believable.
Ms. Ford was not credible because it isn't enough to say a sexual assault occurred where the only verifiable information is that she lived in the same approximate area as Kavenaugh.
I can't wait until the yahoos declare that Trump has been "proven innocent" with respect to his sketchy defense concerning Russia . . . much as Trump declared that Kavanaugh had been "provent innocent."
Carry on, clingers.
The witnesses she named (Leland Keyser, P.J. Smyth, Mark Judge) would not corroborate her story.
No evidence other than an emerging memory.
It is enormously amusing to observe birthers and other wingnuts taking a break from chanting 'lock her up' to provide insights on evidentiary and procedural standards.
Carry on, clingers . . . so far as your betters permit, anyway.
"didn't think what Kavanaugh did was a big deal"
Is mind reading a hobby or a job?
Unfortunately, after years of conservative political rhetoric, I have become accustomed to the ways that the lie and obfuscate. I can read between the lines well enough.
You read rather poorly. Perhaps you are projecting onto us; our side, after all, is the side that believes that human sexuality affects and reflects the nature of one's soul.
Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Scott desJarlais (a jackass whose name doesn't deserve to be checked for spelling), David Vitter, Tim Murphy, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rudy Guiliani, Roy Moore, Cindy Gamrat, Gamrat's boyfriend (can't remember the name), Wes Goodman, Mark Sanford, John Ensign, Mark Foley, Henry Hyde, Helen Chenoweth, Matt Wingard, Bob Livingston, Bob Packwood, Dennis Hastert, and dozens like them endorse your argument that Republicans have the moral high ground on human sexuality.
One person mentioned FERPA and another mentioned a future inability to be hired. Only one of those is "wondering" and it was responded to in the negative.
You probably need to bone up on your reading comprehension, but from what I heard about 8 year old you that's a lost cause.
Even assuming your interpretation of events (which others have already criticized above), you are implying a contradiction that simply is not there. The accusations of sexual assaults were criticized for being way too old to verify - criticisms in defense of the person being accused. These accusations of "weirdness" are being criticized for being way too old to be relevant - again, criticisms in defense of the person being accused.
By the way, it'd be nice if you'd actually read the article. These claims by the teacher are against Stephen Miller who was born in 1985. That makes him age 33, not age 71.
He's thinking of Steve Miller, the musician, who is actually 75.
Damn, wish I'd seen this first. I could've salvaged the whole affair.
Yeah, that's on me. Another awesome slam cut down by being wrong. #redfaced
1. The sexual assault allegations were wholly uncorroborated and evidence free in addition to being of an old event. Ford named 3 potential first hand witnesses. All three sent sworn (on penalty of perjury) written statements to the committee. Not one of them supported Ford's story.
2. The teacher talked recently about something 60 years old, just to embarrass a public figure. The teacher also has no evidence or corroboration for her story.
It is entertaining to see wingnuts advancing a "has no evidence or corroboration" standard in the age of Trump.
Carry on, clingers.
No, Otis, it's crap.
It was not the age of the accusations: it was the fact the there was no consistent investigable narrative to what Ford said happened.
"Today we're treated to Conspiracy Commemters wondering what can be done to a teacher who dared talk about the 8 year old ..."
I have seen no calls to do anything to the teacher except point fingers, roll eyes, and shake heads.
I have pointed out that this is what left-wing political commentary has sunk to:
"He looked like Pig Pen when he was in the third grade."
And the teacher complained because the prinicipal whited out the idiotic complaints like it was the Destruction of the Library of Alexandria. Those observations of Stephen Miller, lost in time, like tears in the rain.
"... Commenters waving off sexual assaults by a nominee ..."
Alleged sexual assaults not corroborated by the witnesses named by the accusers Ford and Ramirez.
Julie Swetnick on the 1 Oct Kate Snow NBC interview could not even stick to the 26 Sep Declaration script written for her by Mike Avenatti. Least credibly alleged sexual assault.
Some of us remember being fooled by the Duke Lacrosse team, Crystal Mangum, Mike Nifong outrage and have learned better. Due process, rules of evidence, innocent unless proven guilty.
It is bizarre how so many of the highest profile sexual assault claims turn out to be completely fake
It's too bad he didn't try to fondle another boy in the class. Then this teacher and her leftist cohorts would be talking about how "brave" and "courageous" he was.
Hear, hear!!
Sweet Jeebus, I spent most of 3rd grade with my finger so far up my nose that I swear I was touching brain.
Thankful that I grew up in a time when cell phone cameras were just fantasy, and that I never aspired to political office.
"When he was in kindergarten, little Jared had a poop accident in his pants", stated Kushner's kindergarten teacher today in an exclusive interview with CNN. "I knew then what an anal-retentive little sh1t he was, and that he would grow up to be evil."
Jared Kushner, the "hidden genius" (working for a "stable genius") whose reliance on nepotism pales against his fondness for murderous, authoritarian dictators?
When Democrats are finished with Trump's taxes, I hope the Kushner family is next.
He shares such distinguished company as every president since the early 20th century.
Yeah.
Trump should have named his 36 yr old brother who had zero effective legal experience to be attorney general.
We would think him a genius, a statesman, and the very embodiment of grace and class.
^^^^ Snicker. Was wondering if anyone would ever bring up RFK's meteoric (nepotism-driven) rise.
Liberals hate Miller so much because he is a true believer nationalist, and he's effective. That's why the MSM attack dog propagandists go so hard at him.
The last thing that the powers that be want is for America's heritage to be preserved for its citizenry, under the banner of a national identity that holds on to the vestiges of America's distinguishing founding values of liberty, free speech, popular sovereignty and government by the people.
He's proven "effective" if what you mean is that he's persuaded Trump to undertake dramatic action in pursuit of his xenophobic and nationalist goals, contrary to what any competent adviser might have suggested he do. Meanwhile, his "policies" keep running into snags, as they prove massively unpopular, impractical, or just plain illegal.
These kinds of actions taken together are a winning tactic, because it keeps the immigration issue front and center. From a policy standpoint, overwhelming majorities support the kind of grand compromise immigration reform that Trump seeks, including a reduction in overall immigration and a revamped system of merit-based selecting for immigrants that will benefit the American people as a whole.
You're right that Americans support a "grand compromise" on immigration. What you fail to understand, however, is that Trump's hardline approach to immigration is not part of this so-called "grand compromise."
Are you not familiar with the legislative proposals and concepts that Trump has publicly and unequivocally supported? If you are that ignorant, try reviewing his SOTU address.
I'm aware that Trump has voiced support for any number of approaches to immigration. I'm not going to cherry-pick statements that are contradicted by his actions like they're apparently meaningful.
I take him seriously, you see, not literally.
Except none of the immigration reforms he has supported are contradicted by any of his actions. You're just living in your own delusions.
Are you aware that Trump had a coherent immigration policy outline on his campaign website from day one?
You can call it "xenophobia," but the average white American did and does not want their country flooded with illiterate third worlders. It was foisted on them against their will, and Trump's election is a response to that.
There was nothing illegal about any of the policies. The fact that you can find liberal hacks appointed by Klinton or Obongo to grant an injunction on basically anything doesn't mean the policy was illegal.
K, I'll keep this dismissal of judicial authority in mind for when Kavanaugh reverses Roe v. Wade.
It's well settled at this point that most of the "But Trump" cases are not based on anything. I know you lefties like to think the Due Process Clause was written to protect killing babies and having gay buttsex, but that just isn't the case.
Some bigots are more articulate than others, but they are still stale-thinking, character-deprived bigots.
*sigh* No, Eugene, I don't imagine that Miller's eight-year-old glue habit is particularly relevant or interesting, nor do I find your take on this passing "news" item to be particularly insightful, nor did I find your whinge about the flak Kavanaugh was getting for throwing a temper tantrum before the Senate to be notable, nor...
I mean, it's your blog, you can fill it with whatever trivial BS you want; it's only your own credibility at stake. I just think it's a bit rich to snark over irrelevant, snarky gossip.
Huffington Post is running with the story from Nikki Fiske.
Maybe Fiske will write a tell-all book about her grade school students over the years, a gold mine for personal destruction attackers.
Why attack Eugene's credibility?
Has he said something wrong?
You're opinion is that the matter is trivial, which it is when compared against unprovable and questionable sexual assault allegations, but since it's made the national media, it's still current news and further evidence of something not good.
But that has nothing to do with Eugene's credibility that I can see. It's not like he's saying fire her or prosecute her or anything.
"Do you remember that character in Peanuts, the one called Pig Pen, with the dust cloud and crumbs flying all around him? That was Stephen Miller at 8. I was always trying to get him to clean up his desk ? he always had stuff mashed up in there. He was a strange dude." -- Nikki Fiske, teacher, Franklin Elementary, Santa Monica, CA.
When I was seven, I stashed some cheese sticks from the cafeteria in my desk emulating a character in a 2nd grade story book (I think it was a mouse) and forgot about them. One day the gnats started swarming. I was embarrassed and had to clean out my desk. I serious doubt if my 2nd grade teacher would ever have publicly brought that up against me in my adult life. But just in case, I'll put that out there to avoid being blindsided if ratted out by a former classmate or someone who heard it from a classmate.
Ferget about high school. What you did in elementary school is going to be used against you as an adult.
David Moye, "Stephen Miller's 3rd Grade Teacher Calls Him 'A Strange Dude' Who Ate Glue", Huffington Post, 10 Oct 2018.
"Donald Trump's senior political adviser once shared a lot of similarities with Pig Pen from "Peanuts," his former teacher said."
But, never forget, it's Trump who is polluting our political discourse.
You're right since he happens to be the current President and we should expect a president to at least try to be classy and not belittle American citizens regardless of their opinions.
Sigh...
The current president was belittled by the last president. That ship went sailing long before Trump anyway.
You mean like how Obama taunted Trump about running for President at the WHCD?
"Well, @realdonaldtrump, at least I will go down as a president"
-- Some dignified guy with a pen and a phone.
...and I hear his pants crease is thrillingly sharp...
Trump was a birther and a pandering bigot. No wonder half-educated, can't-keep-up, superstitious right-wingers like him.
A lot of people voted for Trump because he was not the candidate of the establishment GOP or DNC. The "none of the above" voters.
A lot of people voted for Trump because they did not want a 3rd term for the Clinton Administration.
When Stephen King and Huffington Post declared Trump Is Cthulhu, I yelled Ia! A candidate I could vote for! Cthulhu nalf fhtagn!
Keep up the arrogant elitism. It creates votes against your side.
I believe I -- and the liberal-libertarian alliance, and modern America -- can overcome a lack of support from disaffected, marginalized anti-social, inadequate malcontents.
It is impossible to debate policy with someone who constantly lies and has no defensible rationale for the policies he implements. Yesterday, Trump called the Fed "crazy" because the markets melted down over concerns stemming from long-anticipated interest rate increases. He was apparently alarmed that a sliding DWJI would be more troubling for the GOP in the midterms than historically low unemployment rates, steady job figures, and corporate earnings.
I would love to be able to dispense with all of this nonsensical muckraking, but petty character sniping is how Trump governs, and it is the only apparent way to meet him on his terms.
Trump finally adopted a few of the tactics that the left had been using with great success for decades.
The only way forward is for Democrats to finally accept the legitimacy of Trump's election, and also in many cases to either apologize for their atrocious actions against the country, or be purged from relevance, and in some cases imprisoned, and then for Democrats to come to the negotiating table. That's unlikely for the moment, but it will become more likely after Democrats suffer more losses.
So for now we see the alternative, which is not a way forward. Can you go lower? Sure, you can always go lower. But Democrats won't win that fight. They'll only damage the country and themselves.
"melted down"
The Dow went back to its August level and NASDAQ to May [or vice versa]
With the Kavanaugh Saga over, CNN Returns to Talking About Trump's Penis
How do you guys expect to get enough superstitious rubes and half-educated bigots to the polls to win elections as America's electorate continues to improve?
I thought from the post's headline that this was a link to a satirical article by a Kavanaugh supporter, yukking it up at the tendency to drag out allegations from a person's distant past.
But apparently it's not satire (or at least not meant as such).
[sarcasm/irony warning]
I have it from a good source that some presidential staff members watched STAR TREK and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. How strange can you get?
I'm sure there are 535 politicians laying bricks today, especially "on the side" whose followers are cheering on this action.
They've earned every last sweat bead running down their temple. It couldn't happen to a better group of guys.
Since when did elementary school teachers behave professionally? I wouldn't expect a teacher to act more professionally than a grocer or a food service worker of similar age.
Better questions about this:
Is this sort of thing the latest sign of severe leftist derangement? Or is it a planned part of some totalitarian playbook? Or is it just some meaningless clickbait?
1. I thought people hated it when those in power "punched down" on less powerful genders and races, such that punching down on kids was beyond the pale.
2. Be careful what you wish for. Just like the nuclear option. Or wanting to expand the Supreme Court. Or letting government censor because of bad feelings in the listener. Or because neo Nazis are really bad, mmm'kay?
It would be troubling if the classroom mantra changed from "someone in this room could be the future president" to "someone in this room could be the future president .... if I allow it"
Well, I have it on good authority that when Elizabeth Warren was two, she pooped all over herself, and sat around in it
Teachers are the real heroes after all. (video recently making the rounds at link)
Just another progressive who regrets never being able to serve in the NKVD.
I used to crap my pants when I was two. Good thing i'm not in the public spotlight, I would hate to have everyone in the world learn about this.
While many people criticized Miller's teacher for being unprofessional, not enough note how her comments are likely inaccurate. In the past 25 years, she likely had hundreds of students. It seems implausible that she would accurately remember all of them. At the time she taught Miller, she had no idea what he would be as an adult, so there is no reason to think she would have paid particular attention to his behavior. Repeated studies demonstrate that human memory is often inaccurate and learning new facts can cause people to alter their memory. Thus, it is likely that her current recollections of Miller as an eight year old are clouded by her awareness of him as an adult.
I don't know if this would have drawn anyone's interest if Miller wasn't STILL weird and off-putting.
I was an introspective and messy and weird kid, longer ago than Miller, and a contrarian crank in high school, but fewer of my high-school classmates apparently remember me as a jerk than have that view of Miller, and at least in my professional pictures, I don't look like a cross between Ron Cohn and a Hammer-movie ghoul....
ROY Cohn....
I'd never actually read The Hollywood Report, and was somewhat surprised to see that it actually has a "Politics" page on its website. Nevertheless, it would be hard to imagine even the NY Post running such a story (controlling for political outlook)..
I'll say that I'm reasonably certain glue sticks were common in 93-94, not that it really matters in this
Nikke Fiske, Stephen Miller's elementary school teacher: "He was a strange dude. I remember he would take a bottle of glue -- we didn't have glue sticks in those days -- and he would pour the glue on his arm, let it dry, peel it off and then eat it."
Don't distract from the crisis with glue sticks. This is serious business.
This article tasted like boogers.
"Teacher suspended after saying Trump aide ate glue as child", Associated Press, 12 Oct 2018.
"The Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District placed Fiske on "home assignment" while it decides what to do, if anything, about the disclosures. The district says it's concerned about the public release of student information."