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President Trump Apparently Unblocking Twitter Critics, Even While Appealing the Decision
The court decision was just a declaratory judgment, and thus not strictly legally binding.
Prof. Rick Hasen (Election Law Blog), who is also a remedies expert, writes:
DOJ has appealed the court ruling that President Trump cannot block people on Twitter. But the real news, as flagged by Cristian Farias, is that the President apparently has unblocked the plaintiffs in the lawsuit in the interim.
This unblocking is not something he has to do, and shows a compliance with the court decision that I wasn't expecting.
Recall that the court in the Twitter case didn't issue a binding injunction, but just a declaratory judgment, asserting what the law is. As Hasen notes, "ordinarily a declaratory judgment is as good as an injunction. It is implicitly coercive, and can be followed up by an injunction if necessary …." But strictly speaking, a declaratory judgment simply announces a defendant's legal obligations, and the defendant may choose not to comply until an injunction is issued, especially if the defendant is appealing the judgment. (If there's an injunction against you and you think you shouldn't have to comply pending an appeal, you have to ask the court for a stay; but for a declaratory judgment, that request is unnecessary, because there's no formal order that needs staying.)
Still, such refusal to comply with a declaratory judgment, even pending appeal, is a somewhat confrontational to the court; it was interesting to see whether President Trump would choose to engage in such a confrontation here—the answer seems to be "no."
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And this is the guy liberals keep calling a fascist dictator, and a threat to the rule of law. Because he complains about rulings against him while complying with them.
Worst Hitler ever!
Wouldn't it be better if there weren't rulings against him?
Litigation challenging aspects of government actions, including Constitutional challenges, have been going on since long before Trump. There were plenty under Bush and Obama.
There wouldn't be if the judiciary wasn't filled with judges appointed by KKKlinton and Obongo.
"Wouldn't it be better if there weren't rulings against him?"
Wouldn't it be better if people did not bring trivial litigation?
Yesterday it was a travesty of tyrannical liberal persecution that there is anyone is sabotaging the Presidency by making this legal argument.
But now it is an example of Trump's generous and democratic nature that he cedes to these tyrannical demands.
I just hope this doesn't moot the issue - I'm interested in how it will/would turn out!
It shouldn't moot it. He can always block them again.
Actually, after having the nature of the ruling explained the other day, while I'm not convinced it's right, I don't think it's crazy.
Well that's no fun.
Accord.
He must've been told he'd probably lose and is avoiding a second round of loser from CNN.
He should have the balls to tell the courts to go fuck themselves and not do it. Stop giving the courts more power than they warrant or deserve.
Agreed. America is long overdue for an Operation Condor style cleansing. Many of the "elite," which includes not only judges but university presidents, heads of the media and other leftist agitators need to be told that they will cut the crap or be kidnapped by the military in the middle of the night and thrown into the ocean. We need a despot at this point.
No, we do not need a despot. But we also do not need to accept asinine rulings as legitimate.
Trump didn't ban a soul. Twitter did. He used their software, but Trump is unable to "block" anybody.
Tell me then, what is the alternative? You've seen how brazen the left has gotten in imposing their Marxist visions. What will make them stop other than force?
Insisting on receiving Donald Trump's tweets is a Marxist vision?
Who knew?!
Trump can simply defy the courts to force him to do it.
Do not pretend that the courts have more power than they do.
Shooting folks isn't a viable strategy. Self defense is justified. Shooting people just because is not.
I guess that depends on whether you think an effective defense sometimes requires offense.
The gun control crowd loves your "blame the tool" attitude.
Well played sir.
Does Trump own Twitter?
Does he have any say, at all, in how it is run?
No on both.
He utilizes their service. He does not design it. He does not code it.
It's his account. They have settings. Someone clicked the "block" button, and it wasn't Twitter's ghostly finger.
"Trump is unable to "block" anybody."
But he can unblock them?
Twitter's software permits it. If it did not, Trump couldn't do anything.
Ah, you just admitted it: "Trump couldn't do anything" meaning Trump did do something, ie, used the tool.
+1000
A trivial issue is the perfect vehicle to defy our blacked robed masters.
And wait until it's not trivial anymore? Better to nip it in the bud now.
I should say that I am agreeing with damikesc, not the Operation Condor comment.
Tone it down a bit ARWP
I recognize my views are radical right now, but they will be seen as necessary within a decade or two.
"Recall that the court in the Twitter case didn't issue a binding injunction, but just a declaratory judgment,"
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"Still, such refusal to comply with a declaratory judgment, even pending appeal, is a somewhat confrontational to the court;"
This may be a dumb question, but did the court actually issue the judgement? I would have thought that the court would wait until the appeals were exhausted.
That's actually a very good question. You can't appeal until judgment is entered. The judgment is immediately effective. The party appealing can ask the trial court to stay the judgment during appeal, and if the trial court denies the motion, the party appealing an them ask the court of appeals to stay the judgment during appeal.
I do have do differ a bit with the author's assessment of the effect of a declaratory judgment, though. Declaratory judgments are binding without a separate injunction (at least in federal court under section 2201). If they were not, they would be advisory opinions, which federal courts have no authority to issue under Article III of the Constitution. By "binding," I mean that at a minimum the ruling is res judicata in other legal proceedings. Also, depending on the context, parties in the lawsuit can be held in contempt for acting contrary to a declaratory judgment without any separate injunction being entered, although a specific injunction could also be entered (under section 2202). And there is a lot of debate over whether a federal district court's order can be binding nationwide in any situation. Another district court could always rule contrary to the first one. So there are a lot of issues here.
Thanks. Perhaps the judgement was not stayed, in which case it would be binding as least as far as the norm of federal officials following the law as declared by the courts, without an injunction. Not that Trump cares about norms, but still...
He didn't say it wasn't binding, he said it wasn't a binding injunction.
Declaratory judgments are not advisory opinions because they resolve cases and controversies, as opposed to abstract or hypothetical questions.
Eddie,
The judgment was likely not effective immediately. Under Rule 62, a judgment isn't enforceable for 14 days after entry. There is an exception for injunctive relief, but the court explicitly stated it wasn't granting injunctive relief.
Strategically speaking, if you predict that unblocking everyone will lead to a bunch of bad behavior from those users, it makes sense to unblock them so that the appellate court can see that behavior.
Yea, President Trump's superpower is getting his opponents to beclown themselves.
I don't think so. I ascribe this development to Pres. Trump's recognition that he needed to get started without delay because of the time it takes tiny fingers to get the job done.
The "abusiveness" of the commenters should in no way effect the outcome of the decision.
I would have thought that just as a goodwill gesture, Twitter would have offered to mass-convert all his blocks to mutes in one shot.
Too bad for whoever has to hunt-and-peck manually ;-(
Prof. V, I agree with your analysis in the text of this post regarding the differences between an injunction and a declaratory judgment.
But your sub-title for this post is a dramatic overstatement, and, I submit, flatly wrong: A declaratory judgment is binding as a declaration of rights between two litigants. It can indeed be appealed, and during that process, no supersedeas bond need be posted, since no money has been awarded in the judgment, and no stay is needed, because the declaration of rights isn't self-executing.
But if Trump acts in ways that are contrary to the declaration of rights in the court's opinion ? if Trump does, in other words, what the district judge gave him the benefit of the doubt not to do ? and the court decides to reconsider her refusal to consider injunctive relief based on that non-compliance, Trump won't be free to relitigate the merits. He's bound by the declaration, which in turn may become the determinant of the "probability of success on the merits" prong of a preliminary injunction balancing test.
Since this was his PERSONAL twitter account why should he not be able to block someone just as anybody can do on their account? It now has opened up the possibility that you will no longer have control of your account other than to close it.
Righty radio has been replete with anecdotal reports of liberal institutions (many taxpayer funded) that block their twitter accounts to people suspected of having conservative views. Will the courts now deal with these outrageous outbreaks of tyranny?
Haha, I know its not absolutely forbidden by precedent, but Trump should just constantly tweet bible verses and declarations that Jesus Christ is the one true god at these folks that he previously blocked.
How long until a judge with TDS engages in prior restraint there under the establishment clause, and then Trump can sue for a taking of his previously private twitter account? A social media constitutional hat trick!
We're still making 1 million new citizens (nearly all of which will become Democrat Party voters) each year.
Mad - ARWP wants not only to purge liberals, but to ban women and non-property holders from voting, as well as end immigration from everyone who isn't a white Christian European.
He's pretty broken. At first I thought he tarred the conservatives on here by association, but I'm coming to see he instead elevates by comparison.
If nothing else, ARWP has provided the utility of warming my heart at how many on here I lock horns with are not kill-crazy.
Maybe if you didn't want to kill them they'd vote for the fascists you prefer.
Sarcastro, America worked before. Why did it need to be changed?
Because the Gipper proposed, and a majority of Congress voted for, a change?
I mean, the power to change is implicit in popular sovereignty.
Always a great moment when a stale-thinking, left-behind bigot has a flicker of understanding . . .
Speaking of women, what happened to the Conspiracy's most recent token female? I'm a traditionalist on this one -- the Conspiracy is at its best when it embraces its all-male, all-white ideal and old-timey, partisan purity -- but it appeared the Conspirators had reached for the fig leaf again.
Asking how how a group votes in determining who gets the right to vote is missing the point.
I believe America is strong enough to withstand two terms of Trump (although what that will say about the electorate would be depressing).
We have encountered successive waves of ignorance and intolerance -- often related to immigration, religion, or skin color -- throughout American history. Italians, Asians, blacks, Jews, eastern Europeans, Muslims, Hispanics, gays, the Irish, women, Catholics, and others have been targets. But backwardness and intolerance have been uniformly bad bets in America over all but the shorter terms, and this latest batch of bigots seems nothing special, its reliance on the charms and insights of Donald Trump notwithstanding.
The disaffected, stale-thinking goobers who gave us Trump have never stuck with or accomplished much of anything in life, and I see no reason to expect them to change that pattern now. They'll go back to muttering inconsequentially and bitterly at the sidelines of society and in the backwaters of America, while progress continues against their wishes and efforts.
Oh, I fully agree that none of what I propose is possible through the democratic process. It'll only be possible after a full scale societal collapse and rebuild.
"Anyway, the 19th Amendment was over a hundred years ago, it's time to get over it by now and move on with the new normal. What's funny, though, is all the stuff that the anti women voting types said would happen, did indeed happen."
And all of the horribles that Kennedy promised wouldn't happen regarding the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act did in fact happen.
They will go back to their guns and religion, their street pills and cheap sixers, their militia meetings and Republican committees. They will continue to stick with declining towns and dying industries against all evidence. And they will continue to blame others -- immigrants, blacks, educated women, gays, atheists, Muslims, professors, bankers, journalists, whomever is handy -- for their self-inflicted problems and dysfunctional lives because they lack the character for accountability.
People should vote and act as they wish. I believe America will continue to progress and improve. May the better ideas win and America's greatness continue to develop, albeit with the occasional stumble.
Yeah, I agree with you that it's not time yet. But the left is ramping up its cultural and economic war. It's only a matter of time before the cartridge box will be necessary.
Not really. The modern welfare state is an objective evil, and will eventually cause any society to collapse. Trying to prevent people who will vote for it from voting is not missing the point at all.
Anything that purports to undo successful Western tradition is evil in my book. I concede the specifics will not always be easy to define.
Or contracting the franchise, eh?
Plagiarized from an application for a poll-tester's position in 1950s Alabama?
Or just a loose paraphrase of something Kris Kobach said at a Federalist Society cocktail party during the 1990s?
Trump won because of vestigial bigotry and because America has plenty of disaffected losers.
His fans are the ideological heirs of the jerks who lost on treatment of women, lost on treatment on Italians and the Irish, lost on treatment of gays, lost on treatment of atheists and agnostics, lost on treatment of blacks, lost on treatment of Catholics, lost on science vs. superstition, lost on treatment of the poor, lost on treatment of Jews, and in general have been America's stale-thinking, selfish, intolerant losers.
This was among the last gasps of losers who can't stand all of this damned progress, science, education, tolerance, and modernity -- a middle finger to their betters, the winners who have built a great America.
Why not?