Milton Friedman's Warning to DOGE
The Nobel Prize-winning economist says the Iron Triangle of Politics must be defeated to cut down the government for good.
HD Download"Wise words," wrote Elon Musk about this 1999 viral clip described as "Milton Friedman casually giving the blueprint for DOGE [the Department of Government Efficiency]" as he ticks off a list of federal government agencies he'd be comfortable eliminating.
Musk is right. Friedman, a Nobel Prize–winning libertarian economist, did offer a solid blueprint for creating a smaller, less intrusive government. At the peak of his fame, he seemed poised to influence an American president to finally slash the federal bureaucracy.
But those efforts ended in disappointment because they were blocked by what Friedman called the Iron Triangle of Politics.
Slashing government waste and making the federal bureaucracy more accountable are incredibly important. But President Donald Trump and Musk are hitting the same wall President Ronald Reagan did more than four decades ago.
Now more than ever, it's time to pay attention to Milton Friedman's advice for how to defeat the tyranny of the status quo.
In the 1980s, Friedman's influence reached deep into the halls of power.
"Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," said President Reagan during his first inaugural address in January 1981.
Like Trump, Reagan was preceded in the White House by a big government liberal, who expanded the size of government and whose presidency was plagued by inflation.
Reagan, who awarded Friedman the Presidential Medal of Freedom, promised to enact many of the libertarian policy ideas laid out in the 1980 bestseller co-authored with his wife Rose.
"I don't think it's an exaggeration to call Milton Friedman's Free to Choose a survival kit for you, for our nation, and for freedom," Reagan said in an introduction to the television adaptation of Friedman's book.
But for the most part, the Reagan Revolution failed to deliver on its libertarian promises.
"Reagan's free market principles…clashed with…political reality…everywhere," wrote his former budget director David Stockman in his 1986 book The Triumph of Politics: Why the Reagan Revolution Failed. "For the Reagan Revolution to add up," he wrote, all the people "lured" by politicians into milking social services "had to be cut off."
Reagan tried to keep his promises but, like most presidents, he was only partly successful.
Reagan lifted price controls on oil, cut taxes, and pushed for deregulation. But his commitment to these initiatives quickly fizzled. Federal spending exploded, and he even left trade quotas in place for the automotive industry.
The failure of the Reagan revolution inspired the Friedmans to write The Tyranny of the Status Quo, which examines the political obstacles that obstruct government cost cutting. Their insights are as relevant today as they were 41 years ago.
The book, which came out in 1984, pinpoints the Iron Triangle of Politics as the main obstacle to cutting government. The triangle's three points reinforce each other to uphold the status quo: the Beneficiaries, the Politicians, and the Bureaucrats.
The "beneficiaries" are interest groups and connected industries that profit off of government programs at the expense of taxpayers. Today's beneficiaries include farmers who receive federal dollars. The new budget bill backed by the Republican Party would extend the Farm Bill, which subsidizes crop purchases. As Friedman said, the people paying the bill are "dispersed." You might not have noticed your share of the $2.1 billion going to prop up corn, soybeans, wheat, and other prices when you paid your 2023 taxes, but the farmers who get that money certainly did.
The "politicians" depicted on the triangle are supposed to be responsive to their constituents but end up serving interest groups instead. But it's the bureaucrats who actually distribute the money.
They grow their power when politicians grow the size of their departments, which generates more spoils to distribute to the beneficiaries. It's a symbiotic relationship all at taxpayer expense.
Bureaucracy tends to "proceed by laws of its own," wrote Friedman, noting that in the half-century between Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal and the Reagan Revolution, the U.S. population "didn't quite double but federal government employees multiplied almost fivefold."
Musk has also observed that a metastasizing bureaucracy "proceeds by laws of its own," stating in a press conference from the Oval Office that "if the people cannot vote and have their will be decided by their elected representatives…then we don't live in a democracy, we live in a bureaucracy."
And, like Friedman, he senses danger if the ballooning of the bureaucratic state isn't reversed. At another press conference, he told attendees that "the overall goal here with the DOGE team is to help address the enormous deficit….If this continues, the country will become de facto bankrupt."
DOGE's strategy is to try breaking through the Iron Triangle by the force of a thousand cuts, looking for little inefficiencies with the mindset of a software engineer. Musk has described his role as "tech support," which is fairly accurate given that the Executive Order that created DOGE actually just rebranded an Obama-era agency called the U.S. Digital Service.
It's a good start. The federal work force should be streamlined, and much of it even automated. But Musk might be repeating some mistakes of the Reagan years.
As Stockman observed, the Reagan Revolution floundered because his team only focused on "easy solutions" like ferreting out "obscure tidbits of spending that could be excised without arousing massive political resistance," which" yielded savings that amounted to rounding errors in a trillion-dollar budget."
To make real progress on cutting spending, the cost reduction must go deeper than tech support could manage on its own. Friedman knew that the path to shrinking the federal government began with abolishing federal agencies. In his viral clip, he lists the departments of Housing and Urban Development, Agriculture, Commerce, and Education as ones to put on the chopping block.
Trump has already shut down the Department of Education…kind of. His executive order directs the Education secretary to draw up plans to eliminate or shift some spending to other departments. It keeps major spending like federal student loans intact, and a total dismantling will require Congress to act.
The Trump administration has made severe cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and it defunded the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the brainchild of Elizabeth Warren, which made access to credit and banking more difficult for low-income customers. DOGE also enticed 75,000 federal workers to resign. But many of these cost-cutting initiatives have been challenged in court. Truly eliminating federal agencies requires congressional action.
Because Trump holds only slim congressional majorities and didn't win on a platform to slash government, he won't be able to eliminate entire federal departments like Commerce or Agriculture.
But what would happen if the Trump administration had really followed the Friedman blueprint, learned from the shortcomings of the Reagan Revolution, and created a political movement capable of pressuring Congress to finally start permanently eliminating entire agencies?
Friedman says it would actually make the federal government function better by narrowly focusing on providing what state governments and the private sector can't.
"One function of government is to protect the country against foreign enemies—national defense," says Friedman. "A second function of government, and one which it performs very, very badly, is to protect the individual citizen against abuse and coercion by other citizens….I believe that the government performs that function very ineffectively because it's doing so many things that it has no business doing."
Earlier this year, Musk wielded a chainsaw gifted to him by Argentina's libertarian president, Javier Milei, who more closely followed the Friedman blueprint by targeting the beneficiaries and the bureaucracy, which he calls "La Casta."
In Argentina, it took massive poverty and triple-digit inflation to spark a real libertarian movement that now has a chance of overthrowing the tyranny of the status quo.
We don't want to wait for things to get that bad.
Musk praised Milei's approach at an event in Buenos Aires co-hosted by the libertarian Cato Institute.
"I think governments around the world should be actively deleting regulations, questioning whether departments should exist," said Musk. "Obviously President Milei seems to be doing a fantastic job on this front."
Fantastic indeed. But how can the Iron Triangle be overcome in the American system?
DOGE itself can't legally delete entire departments. DOGE's website claimed $140 billion in cuts out of its $2 trillion goal as of early April 2025.
But it hasn't provided full documentation, and various media and open source analyses have ball-parked DOGE's total savings as more in the $2 billion to $7 billion range.
Either way, DOGE isn't anywhere close to reaching its goal of cutting $2 trillion in government spending, or almost 30 percent of the $7 trillion annual budget. The Congressional Budget Office found the deficit grew 5 percent in February compared to the previous year despite DOGE's early cuts. Meanwhile, the Republican majority passed a budget projected that would add $3.4 trillion to our $28.8 trillion debt.
And we haven't even talked about Social Security and Medicare, which are the major drivers of debt, and which Trump has promised not to touch.
As Stockman came to realize, this is a bipartisan problem.
"There isn't a difference [between the parties] when it comes to the debt," he said on an episode of Reason's Just Asking Questions. "How in the world can we keep adding $1 trillion to our public debt every three months? How are we going to get away with basically enslaving the next generation of Americans with debt?"
Sounds easy, right? Of course, it isn't.
Friedman believes that to defeat the Iron Triangle, a popular politician must break free of the grip of the triangle's other two points.
A new president, with a broad popular mandate and bully pulpit, is in a unique position to push the kind of radical but necessary reforms needed to cut government. And it all must happen, says Friedman, within the first six-month "honeymoon" period.
Trump entered his second term with a bold and disruptive plan, but he's spending his political capital unwinding America's global trade and defense partnerships, not on slashing spending.
To really cut the government, Friedman says you must capture the White House with a plan to cut spending and then make it harder to spend more. Trump isn't fighting that battle. He went to war with Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) for opposing the GOP's bloated budget.
And with Trump's tariffs throwing the market into turmoil, legal challenges to his executive action piling up, and his popularity already waning, the "honeymoon" is already over.
The gargantuan task of breaking the Iron Triangle will probably be left to whoever comes next. But the Iron Triangle will remain unbroken, and the looming threat of an increasingly centralized and bloated government will persist, until a movement emerges that is dedicated to achieving enduring structural reforms.
As Friedman wisely observed, it's not only short-term results that matter but the methods and their long-term consequences.
When asked what he'd do if made dictator for a day, Friedman replied, "I don't want to be made dictator. I don't believe in dictators. I believe we want to bring about change by agreement of the citizens. If we can't persuade the public that it's desirable to do these things, we have no right to impose it on them even if we had the power to do it."
DOGE's mission to rein in our catastrophic debt and unrestrained federal government is one of the most important political battles of our time. But it's a mission that will need more than a single executive agency to ultimately succeed: It needs a mass political movement.
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Milton Friedman was a supporter of unilateral free trade. According to Trump defenders that makes him a leftist, which means he's wrong about this and everything else.
Poor sarc.
And he famously noted that once you have a comprehensive welfare system, open borders are no longer viable.
You sure did a number on that strawman that says anyone should be able to come to the country and immediately go on welfare. You slapped it silly. Then you kicked it where its nuts would be before setting it on fire. Great job. Damn. Your performance would make a cop beating a homeless person in handcuffs blush in embarrassment.
Notice that the retarded fuckhead can’t refute him, so he spazzes out instead.
Sarc has made me a fan of liver failure.
It blows me away that his wife didn't divorce him sooner.
You sure did a number on that strawman
You mean YOUR strawman, right?
Because Rick James is 100% telling the truth about what Freidman said, retard.
Freidman is also wrong. He made those claims in 1962. We have data since that point that sarc refuses to even admit exists.
The outcome is an expansion of the welfare state, that freidman was against, hollowing out of the middle class, and a turn to a banking/consumer economy not based on manufacturing, which he also warned about at times.
Also imagine what these guys are arguing for.
Assume we were on the golf standard and not leveraging the dollar being reserve currency.
Decades of negative trade deficits with a growing population would mean an ever decreasing per capita amount of wealth. So in order to have a growing economy with decades of negative deficits, one would have to accept an inflationary economy.
Friedman also warned against this. Yet that is shown as the outcome of his unilateral policies.
Oddly, for a guy who puts up as many strawmen as you, Sarc, you don’t really understand what a strawman is.
So... your response it to run around in a circle shouting "Hodor! Hodor! Hodor!"
Poor sarcbot.
As more and more opt for Trump's zero tariff position --i.e. free trade this idiot posturing of yours gets more ridiculous.
Trump is trying to threaten his way into free trade. And it seems to be working.
The leftists you defend so intoxicatedly are desperately trying to derail this.
Yes. Trump wants free trade with zero tariffs. That's his stated goal. Zero tariffs mean zero revenue and zero protectionism.
Now lets talk about taxes. Trump wants to eliminate the income tax and replace it with tariffs. Oh wait, can't do that with zero tariffs.
Now lets talk protectionism. Trump wants to bring back manufacturing with high tariffs that no one will pay. Shit. That means no revenue, and no free trade.
So which is it?
"Trump wants to eliminate the income tax and replace it with tariffs."
Lol, no. This is what you believe when you snort uncut cable news all day.
Because Trump holds only slim congressional majorities and didn't win on a platform to slash government...
Except he did run on cutting government. With Musk on stage next to him for almost every campaign event as election day loomed larger.
No he didn't. He explicitly excluded Social Security and Medicare and other "mandatory" spending from his cuts, which shows how unserious he was.
"I'm going to go on a diet ... except for steaks and cakes and Oreos and pizza. But I'll stop eating salads with all that dressing."
DOGE is exposing all sorts of corruption, but without Congressional action, his cuts are just temporary and small. There's a $2 trillion deficit including $1.2 trillion in interest payments, and even if he manages $100 billion, it will just spring back without permanent Congressional reform.
Trump says he’ll boost the economy by cutting federal spending and corporate taxes.
Just because he didn't characterize it the way you would, or cut all of it, does not mean it isn't true.
Tariffs are taxes on corporations you idiot.
Poor sarc
Sarcbot encountered an error.
You just schooled me! Holy Jesus! You just proved that tariffs aren't taxes on corporations by belittling me! You're so smart!
The amusing thing is that someone actually can prove that tariffs aren't taxes on corporations by belittling you.
Pour Sarc.
About 1.75 liters per night.
But he did run on cutting government.
And cutting salad while eating steaks and cake is still going on a diet. Big Whoop.
USAID is not salad. If you're reduced to making retarded analogies maybe take a step back and reevaluate what led you to nirvana.
Also, you should continue eat steak when you're on a diet
Musk is a major beneficiary of government and the entire Iron Triangle stuff. It is ludicrous to believe that his DOGE would cut anything substantial. He just wants to cut woke because he's a fascist.
Hey fag, you’re the fascist, not Musk. You support the democrats and all their policies and even want to exterminate the Jews.
You’re evil. Did you know that?
No, no, no. The real Nazis are the ones who DON'T want to eliminate the Jews from the river to the sea. Nothing more fascist than a Jew-lover. Just ask JFree.
He’s too busy with his Klan meetings.
Well, I guess if not being woke is now associated with not being a fucking stormfront racist, then I guess Fascism where it's at.
hey when you were interviewing Milton did you ask him whether he approved in general of the ongoing world economic realignment?
Milton understood economics. That makes him a leftist by Trump defender standards.
lots of people understand economics. what's interesting to me is you clearly believe each day is its own static entity.
So you agree that, according to Trump defenders, understanding economics is leftist. When your fellow Trump defenders attack anyone who understand economics and calls them leftists, you never say a word. That's what you Trump defenders call tacit agreement. Which means you also consider understanding economics to be leftist.
yes, I'm gonna marry a carrot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX-FLRW_3KQ
Oh the irony that you will never, ever understand.
lol, god you’re dumb.
I'm literally loling at sarc.
Understatement of the century.
I think Sarc is actively trying to challenge Pluggo for being the dumbest motherfucker here.
Damn, you’re an idiot, Sarc.
I love how sarc has no recognition that many schools of economics exist and not all theories from 1962 end up being right. Sarc, do we have any data to look at since 62?
You're literally arguing immutable laws, just ignore all data lol.
You have a religion, not an understanding.
Poor sarcbot.
“Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”
Some guy said this, can’t place his name….
You're kind of missing a key observation here that departs from Friedman's vision: That a lot of the support for big government today is generated by NGO's and interest groups that are fueled by laundered tax money, and spend it to create a public illusion of widespread support for big government.
DOGE isn't just trying to save money, they're trying to defund that government funded PR in favor of more government, that whole activist ecosystem.
And without Congress passing laws, DOGE cuts are temporary. Trump's short attention span doesn't help.
Lol.
What a fine rebuttal. Got an encore?
Jesse says that people who want Congress involved don't understand that laws can be repealed, which means they don't want any cuts in government.
Ideas™ !
How did your congressmen respond when you asked them to get involved sarc?
You don't understand that fact. As that's the crux of your arguments against recissions and audits.
Glad you recognize your argument is retarded.
Sure, might as well go back to business as usual.
"...Trump's short attention span doesn't help."
Nor is your constant TDS-addled blather.
At least he isn't screaming about penguins today.
So far.
Another fine rebuttal. If you got any smarter, you'd rank right up there with Humpty Dumpty.
You have nothing useful to add. All you do is bitch. When I ask for YOUR solution, I get nonsensical bullshit.
You’re not worth listening to. You might as well go hang with Sarc and Fatfuck.
He's a theist. Data and evidence don't matter to him.
Trump screamed first, proud of tariffs on the penguin islands. I'm his echo. Funny how only the echo bothers you. Next you'll be calling it misinformation.
*yawn*
………. So boring.
"Trump screamed first, proud of tariffs on the penguin islands."
TDS-addled shit piles will focus on the least important issue and continue to make public asses od themselves
You sure do defend a lot of stupid government tricks with your demand that everything must be done completely and perfectly from moment 1 but only for reducing government
What you are describing as the "iron triangle" has been more succinctly defined as "enshittification", though that was first applied to online platforms it works for politics too. Politicians are a service.
First, they are good to their users (voters, by listening to them). Then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers (donors). Finally, they abuse their business customers to claw back all the value (power) for themselves.
The only way to break the Iron Triangle, Friedman suggested, is to push through deep structural reforms that are hard to overturn: a balanced budget amendment that forces Congress to spend responsibly, a line item veto allowing a president to eliminate special interest handouts without scrapping an otherwise popular law, a flat tax to eliminate special interest carve-outs, and a hard limit on how much money the government can print each year. Sounds easy, right? Of course, it isn't...Friedman believes that to defeat the Iron Triangle, a popular politician must break free of the grip of the triangle's other two points.
So basically a libertarian minarchist ideology requires a dictator to implement reform. He says he doesn't want a dictator but in fact he clearly does. One of the things I have done with Deep Think is to create personas that are, roughly 'classical/liberal' (not 'libertarian' since I have found none of the that are worth including) - and then use those to assess something like Friedman's Iron Triangle.
It doesn't end up with the same recommendations as Friedman but does very much identify the Iron Triangle model as a problem. At core, it would identify the recommendation as - institutionalize additional checks/balances/separation of powers in a Constitutional framework. Not with a particular goal of limiting government but merely of institutionalizing more checks and balances.
In this case - a quasi-judicial function to check the power that links beneficiaries/special interests with bureaucracy - modelled on Hayek's Rechttsstat and Aristotle's πολιτεία (what we would now call either polity or constitution). And a quasi-legislative function - based on sortition and citizen's assemblies and Toquevillean civic associations - that keeps legislatures from being captured by campaign donors, special interests, and bureaucrats. Those sortition assemblies would be laser focused on things that complement (not supplant) a legislature - setting legislative agendas, overseeing/auditing agencies, proposing constitutional amendments, reviewing legislation for 'sunset' or renewal - and would dissolve when finished.
The only reason Friedman requires a dictator is because he has a very particular agenda. He wants to pretend that 'the people' can be persuaded to that agenda - but that is not how manufacturing consent works in a modern age with mass media. What is needed is more indirect reform. VERY strong structural reform that implements more checks, balances, separation of powers. But NOT a particularist comprehensive agenda. Agendas change over time.
JFucked for the status-quo anti!
I wish I had read your comment before posting mine below. You make similar points much better than I did.
Yikes.
^ This steaming pile of lefty shit promotes murder of the unarmed as a preventative:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck him with a barb-wire wrapped broomstick
Oof. Being jealous of JewFree.
A new president, with a broad popular mandate and bully pulpit, is in a unique position to push the kind of radical but necessary reforms needed to cut government. And it all must happen, says Friedman, within the first six-month "honeymoon" period.
This is an interesting comment. Remember that Weissmueller and other supposed libertarian critics of spending cuts criticized Trump for cutting anything instead of solely working through congress. Now he supports Friedman's plan which focuses on speed which any effort to work through congress would preclude. It seems Weissmueller is jumping from one Trump attack to the next without noticing they contradict each other.
The funny thing here is that Trump is hewing closer to Friedman’s playbook than any President in living memory, yet the Reasonistas still have a problem with it.
This is not a triangle, it's a square.
Between the bureaucrats and the beneficiaries lies the activist NGOs, which are a prime target of the DOGE members. USAID was rife with that sort of nonsense. Defund the NGOs, defund the legal staff bringing bogus claims, removing the connection between the bureaucrats and the beneficiaries.
a broad popular mandate
Which Trump didn't get, fwiw.
Sure didn't. 1.5%, and not even a majority of voters, against Kackling Kamala, DEI, CRT, transgender mutilation, men beating up women in the Olympics, and inflation. That's pathetic.
I hope he can pull off some face-saving nothing burger, he's still better than Biden was or any plausible Democrat could be on at least some things. But judging by his fanbois claim that 1.5% was a landslide, that tariff inflation won't hurt, and trade wars don't disrupt economies, reality is no more important to Trumpies than any other political junkies.
So it was only barely a landslide?
You're engaging a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
DOGE does not care one hoot about making government more efficient or reduce the deficit. Look at their actions not their rhetoric. They are taking a wrecking ball to the government and that will not and can not lead to a positive outcome. Doing this properly is a slow and detailed process. Their cuts to the IRS will cost $500 B of lost revenue. They are also trampling on federal law and the Constitution.
You want to know what is really happening? Go read “On Tyranny”.
Is there anything you say that isn’t full retarded?
No. No, there is not. It’s Tony. And when has Tony ever said anything intelligent?
Go read “On Tyranny” and come back.
From the book:
"The odd American idea that giving money to political campaigns is free speech means that the very rich have far more speech, and so in effect far more voting power, than other citizens."
The guy claims to be warning against tyranny and then proposes the government control campaign funds?
This is stupid even for MG!
Given what we have seen with Musk and DOGE that warning seemed to be spot on.
Rip the bandaid off. It's past time to expose the festering rot to sunlight, excise the wounded area as necessary, disinfect, and let it heal transparently.
Start at 3:10 in the Milton Friedman clip referenced at the start of the article:
“I don’t believe in dictatorship...If we can’t persuade the public that it is desirable to do these things, we have no right to impose them even if we had the power to.”
Does electing Donald Trump count as having persuaded the people to eliminate the Education Department, ending USAID, firing thousands of federal employees in highly arbitrary ways, imposing massive tariffs on the things Americans want to buy from every other country in the world, and everything else in his "shock and awe", "flood the zone with shit" approach to governing?
Elections have consequences, but a plurality of voters were persuaded to vote for him last November. Those voters had a variety of reasons for their choice, just like the voters that pick any candidate in any election. A politician getting a majority of the people to support a particular action once in office isn't the same thing as getting enough votes to win their election.
how can anyone defend USAID
Democrats can. Every penny of their waste and theft is precious to them.
wrong place
how can anyone defend USAID
Defend it from what? DOGE got so much of what they said that they were cancelling completely wrong initially that I don't even know what I'd have to defend it against. And I don't know that they are even giving enough detail about what they are cancelling any more to be able to tell if it is accurate or not.
Oh, I see now. You think a majority of the country is happy that the U.S. isn't going to help feed hungry people in countries torn apart by decades of warfare.
Or maybe you don't care whether that is a popular policy with the whole country, or whether it actually affects whether children in other countries have something to eat, as long as you don't have to support that with your taxes.
you actually think that's where the money goes ... it actually goes to an army of statist internet shills ... oh wait you are actually one of those
You really think that DOGE has been accurate or honest about what its finding?
This steaming pile of lefty shit supports murder:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
You should read your own link, steaming pile of lefty shit. Yes, we taxpayers are tired of funding food for those who start wars with each other.
Wanna stop starving? Join the 21st Century, and, BTW, let the other half of your population (women) contribute.
I, for one, am more than happy to quit funding medieval cultures killing each other over fantasy religious differences.
Oh, this pile of shit supports murder:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Tariffs are a great example. Trump did make a big deal about tariffs during the election. So one can argue that there was a mandate to do something re that.
But do what? Reindustrialize? Replace income tax? Renegotiate bilateral deals with others? Piss on China?
The election results don't help re that. Because the actual thing people voted for were Orange Baboon v Corpse's Warm Bucket of #2
People voted for Trump because they hated the Biden's Woke agenda, which Harris promised to double down on. But Woke was already on the way out. No one voted for a deliberate recession and complete elimination of all trade. No one voted for a trade war with Canada. Maybe they didn't like brown skinned people to the south, but we never had a problem with pale faces to the north.
And let me remind everyone that Trump only won by 0.4%. That is NOT a mandate to do whatever the fuck he feels like.
The only reason he is getting away with it is because Congress is a bunch of fucking baboons who don't realize their supposed to be the checks and balances that makes the country work.
Poor Brandy. Same problem as all leftists. Thinks he understands the other side but can only spew MSNBC copium.
You are underestimating the desire for a revived industrial heartland in the Rust Belt states. Woke is just the end-game of a D transition from the Gephardt/Mondale/etc (really the private sector union part of the New Deal coalition) to the demographic/identity politics of the Clinton/Obamas (where union now means public sector and bureaucracy).
Tariffs play a part in that transition and the people in flyover/Rust Belt who want their communities back are completely ok with a market correction that hits financial sectors/coasts/etc hardest. Indeed - the reindustrialization can't happen WITHOUT a recession like that.
Whether what Trump is doing will lead to that end-game - idk. And I seriously doubt it. But for damn sure - the results don't happen in one week with Trump reversing himself at the behest of frightened hedge funds that didn't position themselves for a fundamental change..
Woke is just the end-game of a D transition from the Gephardt/Mondale/etc (really the private sector union part of the New Deal coalition) to the demographic/identity politics of the Clinton/Obamas (where union now means public sector and bureaucracy).
Why do you believe that those are really different agendas? Do you think that those goals are incompatible with each other?
I should also point out that I don't agree with the label "identity politics" being applied broadly to everything that people on the right criticize as "woke". Especially since they seem to have so little understanding of where the term "woke" originally came from or what it meant.
The old agenda was focused on economic class. Sanders is really the only remaining class based pol and his is Marxist.
The newer identity is focused on demographic assumptions of common interest. The woke end-game of the latter is what results when one believes all whites think the same, all Asian lesbians think the same, all disabled dwarfs think the same, etc. And to create a 50%+1 coalition, you have to have a 50%-1 remainder
Two steaming piles of lefty shit fisting each other.
^ This slimy pile of lefty shit promotes murder of the unarmed as a preventative:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck him with a barb-wire wrapped broomstick
well I think the big issue here is that Musk/Trump is NOT trying to reduce the size and scope of government. Recall that we just had continuing resolution that increased the Federal budget. Not only was not dollar cut, but many many yuuge dollars were added for spending.
People tell me just want until 2026. Sorry, we are entering a massive recession right now because no one will trade with us because the Musk/Trump priority was to piss off every trading partner rather than cut one dime of government spending. Oh, we also renamed the Gulf of Mexico, and even higher priority.
CUT THE SPENDING!
In the meantime, stop giving no-bid contracts to Tesla. Stop filling the swamp with new turds. Stop firing the competent and giving entire departments over to the mouth breathers.
CUT THE SPENDING! Firings don't work if spending keeps going up. Where is that money going? It had better not be going into Musk's fucking wallet!
I think the big issue here is that:
You.
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Oh. So the courts issuing all those orders regarding DOGE, audits, and demanding spending are fake. Got it.
This article deceives on 2 counts"...
1" Bureaucracy tends to "proceed by laws of its own," wrote Friedman, noting that in the half-century between Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal and the Reagan Revolution, the U.S. population "didn't quite double but federal government employees multiplied almost fivefold."
Lets look not at that period, in which the world's most lethal war occurred and US troops accounted for most of the increase....in 1935, US troops (government employs but hardly bureaucrats) were about 150,000, and under Reagan they grew to 2.5 million, an increase not five fold but more than 15 fold. This is the bulk of the increase in what the article, citing Friedman, calls 'bureaucrats," the generic name for public servants,including soldiers. (source: statista.com)
2. In the last 45 years, the bureaucracy, relative to the population growth has radically shrunk!. In the year Reagan left office, the federal employees numbered about 3.2 million (most in the military) with a population of 226 million, and in 2024 with a population of 334 million, an increase of about 50%, the number of government employees is about 2.9 million, so the decrease, relative to the population size, is a decrease of over 50%. Given those facts, the argument about a soaring bureaucracy is bullshit and the real reason to shrink it emerges: less regulation of business, less auditing of the rich, less testing of product and food safety, less money spent on feeding the hungry in order to justify tax cuts for the wealthy. The final truth is this: shrinking government (with or without the lies) is designed to increase the power of the private sectors, which unlike the government, is unaccountable to the public and runs on an authoritarian system with no pretense of democratic rule.
"The final truth is this: shrinking government (with or without the lies) is designed to increase the power of the private sectors, which unlike the government, is unaccountable to the public and runs on an authoritarian system with no pretense of democratic rule."
Couldn't be more wrong if you spent days in the attempt.
Every dollar you spend is a vote and we vote companies and their employees out of business every day.
Further, most all the companies, given the profit motive, are far, far more efficiently run than ANY government agency.
Fuck off and die, slaver.
Oh, and the market runs on "revealed" rather than "stated" preferences. Want to get an honest response? Have that person have skin in the game. All else it bullshit.
And then, are you hoping S/S pays for your retirement? Or hoping to hit the lotto? Or are you simply a dumb shit lefty not thinking that far ahead?
Where's your retirement income coming from if not investments in those efficient, for-profit, companies?
Maybe Reason ought to revisit the tanking of the Grace Commission. Oddly absent in their waybackyism.
Friedman was wrong big time.
Milton Friedman's "shareholder theory" (where a company's sole responsibility is to maximize shareholder profits) is seen as flawed because it prioritizes profit over the common good and neglects the rights and needs of other stakeholders like employees, customers, and the broader community.
The problem is that the beneficiaries of Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security are not concentrated, but spread widely. There are too many of these beneficiaries to trim these programs sufficiently to make dents in the debt. People who actually see plans to get rid of their benefits will vote you out of office. You just might have to trim waste in the military instead of increase the military budget. You might have to bash the insurance and pharma industries and negotiate prices of Pharma so that the US only pays what the rest of the world does.