Today's Migrants Are Just like Your Immigrant Great-Grandparents
Nearly 40 percent of Americans have at least one ancestor who entered the U.S. through Ellis Island. However, today's migrants may be shut out and deported, a humanitarian tragedy that would profoundly damage the U.S. economy.
HD Download"Sometimes I dream that I'm back there, crossing that river or back in the jungle. All those things haunt me," recalls Giranny Colmenares of her journey to the United States.
She and her three children fled chaos and hunger in Venezuela—a nation destroyed by the socialist strongman Hugo Chávez. When her mother died from a brain tumor and couldn't get treatment, she decided she needed to leave before the next calamity.
In New York City, Colmenares finally found a semblance of security, and she received support from the non-profit Una Carta Salva Una Vida. "At least [in the U.S.], you can go out somewhere and find something to eat. In Venezuela, no. If you didn't have anything, you had nothing. You couldn't ask a neighbor, a cousin—no one. No one was going to help you," says Colmenares.
New York City was once known as the "Golden Door" because of its long history of welcoming immigrants like Colmenares. Nearly 40 percent of Americans have at least one ancestor who entered the U.S. through the city. However, today's migrants may be shut out and deported, a humanitarian tragedy that would profoundly damage the U.S. economy.
Since taking office, President Donald Trump has been signing executive orders to close the door to new immigrants, fulfilling his campaign promise to conduct the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. Trump has indefinitely suspended the refugee resettlement program, canceling thousands of flights and leaving 22,000 approved refugees stranded. He ordered the termination of Temporary Protected Status (TPS), potentially affecting the legal status of over 1.2 million people. He also ended the CHNV Parole Program, which allowed over 530,000 migrants from dangerous countries to legally travel and work in the United States. And he shut down the CBP One app, which allowed migrants to schedule asylum screening interviews at U.S. ports of entry.
Trump has also expanded expedited removal, enabling faster deportations of undocumented immigrants unable to prove two years of residency. And he issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship for children born after February 19, 2025, which a federal judge blocked with a nationwide injunction.
"The difference [with past immigration waves] is essentially that we no longer have the rule of law," Simon Hankinson, a senior research fellow in the Border Security and Immigration Center at the right-wing Heritage Foundation told Reason."We had very few restrictions on immigration in the 18th century, but they were always decisions made by the host country….Countries have a right to determine who comes into the country and what we've what's changed is that in the past few years, the rule of law no longer applies at the border."
Hankinson compared crossing a national border without documentation to walking into someone's living room uninvited.
This is a bad analogy. The government doesn't own the country. The bedrock of liberalism is that the state doesn't have a moral right to interfere with voluntary transactions between consenting adults that don't harm anyone else. Immigrants are desperate to work for American companies, and American companies are desperate to hire them.
"The most important reason for illegal immigration is the fact that the legal immigration system is so constrained," says David J. Bier, director of immigration studies at the libertarian Cato Institute. "For most people who are trying to come to the United States, the legal immigration system is effectively closed off to them."
Juan Pio, executive director of Plan País, a nonprofit that supports Venezuelan immigrants, says that most migrants he has encountered aren't looking for handouts—they want jobs.
Most Venezuelans entering the U.S. seek asylum, a special protection given to individuals fleeing persecution or human rights abuses. However, asylum seekers can't apply for work permits until six months after entering the country. Even then, the federal government often takes longer to issue permits, effectively prohibiting migrants from supporting themselves legally. "I'm looking for a job, but since we don't have work permits, I can't get a job," one migrant told Reason.
Many migrants instead turn to illegal employment, risking the rejection of their asylum applications if caught.
If Trump gets his way by deporting all of the unauthorized immigrants currently in the U.S., it would be economically devastating. "There would be a huge downshift in the labor market," Bier told Reason." You'd see Americans currently working at the front of the restaurant start moving to the back. A lot of restaurants would close, of course. There would be a huge contraction in the economy as those changes happen."
Immigrants are also more likely to start a business, regardless of their legal status. Legal immigrants use 27 percent fewer welfare benefits than native-born Americans, and even undocumented immigrants pay nearly $23 billion dollars to Social Security and nearly $6 billion dollars to Medicare every year.
The controversy in New York City has centered on a policy that allows migrants to stay for free for one to two months in city hotels. Bier opposes this policy, citing the incentives it creates by encouraging migrants to come to one of the most expensive housing markets in the U.S.
Hankinson cites immigrant crime as a reason to seal the border.
"In the last week, I've seen a case of an illegal immigrant from Venezuela murdering a college student. Yesterday, I read about an immigrant from, I think, El Salvador, who murdered a two-year-old," he told Reason. "We see cases of confirmed crime committed by people who were admitted into the United States outside the law."
Restrictionists like Hankinson point to cases such as the murder of Jocelyn Nungaray by two Venezuelan migrants and the killing of nursing student Laken Riley at the University of Georgia by a Venezuelan migrant. When asked about violent crimes committed by migrants at a recent public event hosted by Reason, Alex Nowrasteh, the Cato Institute's vice president for economic and social policy studies, argued that "you should punish the people who commit the crimes. You should not punish people with the same legal status who didn't commit the crimes."
Nowrasteh also pointed to the empirical data. There's no evidence of a broader migrant-driven crime wave. Violent crime is trending down, even as migration has surged. "When we saw crime spike—[it] spiked in 2020 when immigration was totally bottomed out and hardly anyone was showing up at the border in the summer of 2020, that was driven by mainly native-born residents," says Bier.
A Cato Institute study suggests that illegal migrants are less likely to be convicted of crimes than native-born Americans. In Texas, the only state that records criminal convictions and arrests by migrant status, illegal immigrants were convicted of 27 percent fewer homicides than native-born residents.
Census surveys show immigrants are about half as likely to end up behind bars than native-born residents. Migrants desperately want to be in the U.S., Bier says, so they "avoid law enforcement because they think that law enforcement could get them removed from this country."
Immigration could allow the U.S. to avoid population collapse. Because of falling birthrates, the global population is expected to start shrinking by the end of the century, and everyone from Vice President J.D. Vance to Russian President Vladimir Putin is calling for the so-called "childless cat ladies" to start having kids. Instead of pushing people to procreate, the U.S. could just let in more immigrants who want to raise families here.
"At the end of the day, these are human stories," says Pio. "I maintain that liberty and migration are the exemplary part of our history."
When their stay at the hotel in Brooklyn ran out, Giranny and her family moved to Chicago to live with a friend. Many recent immigrants are making the same decision, moving to places where it is cheaper to live and easier to achieve the American dream.
Allowing people to freely migrate to the U.S. was the policy for most of American history. Then came the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, the racist quotas of the Immigration Act of 1924, and the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. Is that the America that Trump wants to bring back?
Today, about 40 percent of Americans can trace their ancestry to Ellis Island. That's what made the U.S. so prosperous. And we need a lot more immigration if it's going to stay that way.
It was once a radical idea to suggest that black people, gay people, or women should have the freedom to live and work anywhere. Someday, I hope we can take for granted that someone born in Haiti, Venezuela, Mexico, or any other country should have all the same freedoms as a native-born American.
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My great grandparents didn't get free rent, good, or money on debit cards. They also wanted to be Americans when they came over and didn't have their flags in the streets demanding more. They understood they were here to improve their lives, not demand shit and commit crimes. They learned English and adopted to the US culture. Taught their kids to do the same.
Oh. Forgot. They came legally.
I had some forebarers who came *not* legally. They still didn't get any assistance. They still all assimilated, and even eventually got citizenship, legally. Took a while due to how they got here, but they eventually put in the work and did it.
It's weird, because you would be led to think that there was never any path to rectifying your immigration status prior to recent policy. But there have always been ways, if you're willing to submit all the paperwork, are very patient, and aren't a criminal (otherwise).
It also turns out that most people don't mind if you came from Mexico or Cuba or Venezuela originally, if your purpose in being here is to BECOME AN AMERICAN and you want to CONTRIBUTE to our society.
My grandparents, same thing; my spouse, same thing. = They came legally, and followed the law.
This x1000
They also wanted to be Americans when they came over and didn't have their flags in the streets demanding more. They understood they were here to improve their lives, not demand shit and commit crimes. They learned English and adopted to the US culture. Taught their kids to do the same.
My goodness y'all are so racist and horrible and fascist for insisting that people who move to America want to actually be American.
Excellent. Me too.
Hey - if they didnt get free housing and money why didnt they just take over an apartment complex? Its their own fault, obviously!
Likewise, for those who came here that late. Unlike some of my ancestors, these guys aren’t hewing new farms out of the Massachusetts wilderness using 17th century technology.
No shit.
"Go forth and be bountiful" is light years distance from "here are the county regulations, city regulations, state regulations and federal regulations you'll need to adhere to before you open a food truck" *drops 4 multi-thousand page books on the table*
Funny how all these Mexican protests in particular consist of them waving the flag of their country and screeching "Vive Mexico!" while desperately trying not to get sent back to the country they're celebrating.
I could never figure out why people would leave such socialist paradises like Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Cuba or Venezuela for this capitalist hell hole.
Weird, huh?
You forgot racist!
Weirdest flex in history.
"I love this country that I am bitching about possibly having to return to and hate the country I am angrily demand I be allowed to stay in"
Makes no sense at all.
I doubt they were taught to hate America once they got here either.
My grandmother was born in Greece. We celebrate Greek holidays. But God damn if 4th of July isn't a bigger celebration. Same with my 2nd generation wife.
Sacrificing a bull to Poseidon on the 3rd of July for your ancestors safe voyage to America sets the stage for a great barbecue on the 4th.
Even if the first generation ones are simply just glad to be here, their kids are being propagandized by their marxist teachers in the K-16 schools they're attending that the US actually is a racist shithole and it needs to be disrupted, dismantled, and abolished so the glorious communist liberation society can come about.
That's especially true in Colorado, where commie ratas and perpetual political candidates like Bryan Lindstrom and Tim Hernandez oversee the curriculum standards while teaching their immigrant students to hate the US.
Oh bullshit. To teach american history without having some inherent discussion of race/racism/race relations wouldn't be teaching US history, would it? How do you explain major historical events? The civil war? Jim Crow? There are people still alive who lived during segregation its not ancient greek history.
You could leave all that out; but that would be like the homeschooled religious kid who insists that his 'science' books prove the earth is only 6,000 yrs old. Congrats? Your science curriculum sucked. And if your history courses are just as bad...what is the point of teaching at all?
Did you drag that strawman all the way from home or find it on the way?
And they did not burn the US Flag while protesting. Deport, deport, deport.
My great grandparents lived in Sod Houses on their parents homesteads when they first arrived from Norway. They earned everything they got, too.
My great grandparents lived in a barrel of hot asphalt underneath a sod house. And they were happy for that so they could sing God Bless America
Neither did mine. They became Amish.
They aren't the same. You know the many reasons why. There is no reason to read something with such a dishonest premise.
Ellis Island is the same as swimming the RG, or running around the edge of a fence outside San Diego
No. They're not.
75% of the founding immigrants didn't support [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism].
As a matter of fact they were ESCAPING that curs-id ideology.
And wrote a Supreme Law to ensure it's demise.
This must have lost something in the translation.
Is there a distinction between legal immigration and illegal border crossing in any language other than (American) English?
Since taking office, President Donald Trump has been signing executive orders to close the door to new ILLEGAL immigrants
FIFY, you disingenuous f@ck.
Today's Migrants Are Just like Your Immigrant Great-Grandparents
No... they are not. And today's 'migrants' are entering a country that is billions of parsecs away from the country my *thinks* great grandparents came into. For instance, my great great gran didn't get this as a benefit upon stepping on American soil.
Great Gran was told, "Write your X on the line, good luck finding work, try not to die of consumption."
Democrat voting machines have been practically built on coordinating chain migration and immigrant absorption since Van Buren set up Tammany.
"Hankinson cites immigrant crime as a reason to seal the border.
"In the last week, I've seen a case of an illegal immigrant from Venezuela murdering a college student."
Hrrmmmm, something is different between these two sentences but I can't put my finger on it. Like something is missing in the first that is provided in the second.
Your great grandparents didn't murder someone months after arriving?!?
Mine did. True story. GG gandfather from Sweden. He tried to kill 2 of his children after his wife died. Succeeded with one. He was sentenced to death by hanging but was commuted to life in prison. He died in Eastern penitentiary in Philly.
https://www.newspapers.com/article/reading-times-gustav-closson-taken-to-ea/30587232/
No, my great-grandparents were all born here. So were their great- grandparents. And their great-grandparents before then.
Wow, if you are White, then you are going to owe a serious reparations bill.
Like seriously, not a single thing.
"Today's Migrants Are Just like Your Immigrant Great-Grandparents."
Tell that to Laken Reilly.
Or any of the other families whose daughters were raped and murdered by these "dreamers."
Hankinson compared crossing a national border without documentation to walking into someone's living room uninvited.
Why on earth would he make that comparison? I would say crossing a national border without documentation is comparable to walking into Martha's Vineyard without documentation.
I would say crossing a national border without documentation is comparable to walking into Martha's Vineyard without
documentationmoney.Documentation comes in many forms...
So, he compared illegal immigration to...*checks notes*...breaking and entering?
Why do the pro-illegal immigration folks get so pissy when we make the same comparison?
This is a bad analogy. The government doesn't own the country. The bedrock of liberalism is that the state doesn't have a moral right to interfere with voluntary transactions between consenting adults that don't harm anyone else. Immigrants are desperate to work for American companies, and American companies are desperate to hire them.
That is... not the 'bedrock' of liberalism.
Perhaps Antonella Marty should ask ENB if the metaphysical fabric of liberalism is torn asunder when "pimps have to register with the government to make sex-work-
greatsafe-again"?This is a bad analogy. The government doesn't own the country.
Oh yeah? Try not paying your property taxes.
Fix that and everything associated with that concept, and I'll consider supporting unlimited migration to my country. Because at that point, countries will have ceased to exist, and I can probably withstand a lot in Anarchotopia.
When non privately owned land is sold, guess who gets the money? the government
When an oil company wants to drill on non privately owned land, guess who gets the payments?
the government
Try building a house on that park in your town. Guess who will sue you, tear it down, and likely jail you.
the government
All non privately owned land is owned by the government, local, state, or federal, through its representation of the people's property rights.
As he said, PRIVATE property is also very much owned by the government.
Fail to pay your property taxes and they will take the land from you.
In no meaning of the word does that indicate you "own" it
Yeah, I don't think BigT was arguing with my point, just expanding on it. There is very, very little land in America that carries allodial title, and even that stuff... I don't know how thoroughly the Spanish Land Grants have been tested in the courts.
That's correct.
You own nothing. You don't own anything that can't be stolen from you by some regime entity whether it's the local law enforcement or the tax man.
You don't own your land, your home, your car and even your children can be taken from you at the whim of an unelected bureaucrat.
You don't own anything. You don't, you have owners.
They own you.
George Carlin:
https://youtu.be/fT03vCaL-F0?t=77
Antonella Marty is about a 36T-dollar welfare-state late to be blowing that horn.
But frankly it's a good basis to run immigration control on.
If the immigrant won't take any 'welfare' and believes *EARNING* is part of getting that speaks volumes about the kind of person. Sadly; The immigrant statistics show immigrants using 51% welfare versus 30% native and 75%+ voting for MORE [Na]tional So[zi]alist welfare.
So the fact is; the majority of immigrants already here aren't here to *EARN* a GD thing.
And that mentality is exactly why their own nation is a h*llhole they're trying to escape from.
Juan Pio, executive director of Plan País, a nonprofit that supports Venezuelan immigrants, says that most migrants he has encountered aren't looking for handouts—they want jobs.
I'm sure they might. But a 'job' does not necessarily pay benefits such as healthcare, which will be covered by a number of states regardless of their immigration status.
If Reason continues to write retarded articles like this without even acknowledging the fact that undocumented immigrants are eligible for free fucking, unending, unlimited healthcare paid for by taxpayers--- taxpayers who themselves are literally ineligible for the same benefits, then you will continue to be mocked as the retards that you are.
Another key fact is that most illegal immigrants have limited educations and thus cannot compete in the modern economy. So the benefits they generate to offset their higher costs are much lower.
They're doing the jobs that Nick Gillespie won't do... while my streets are lined with unemployed tent cities full of meth addicted homeless-- which is laughably blamed on "lack of housing". So... let's add millions more units of people to the already-strained housing supply.
"Yeah, but, what we need to do is de-regulatationize the housing market by making the Missing Middle appear... apppear! APPEAR!
Not sure what we do when it um, doesn't appear.
Schools in blue states are feeding kids breakfast AND lunch, often even through the summer, because apparently their parents are too fucking lazy to even put a couple of Eggo waffles in the toaster or put peanut butter on a couple pieces of bread for them.
The governor of Iowa turned down fed supplied grocery money. According to every lib, this was turning down free money. I think Reynolds realized that taking the plan that gave people $30 a month for groceries would really just fund high paid liberals who would suck up more money in paychecks than money distributed. But every week the news mentions this tragedy for families.
What parents? 75% of all black children are born into a fatherless family where only the baby momma is involved and even that is minimal.
She's out trying to get knocked up again so she can get more welfare.
immigrants are eligible for free fucking
Doing jobs Americans won't do?
They’re eligible for free fucking? If so, I should offer to sponsor a foreign glamor model. Maybe two.
My great, great, great grandfather and his brother took some mules and an Indian guide from Sutter Fort to Donner Lake in the middle of winter to bring food to the Donner Party, who were eating their dead.
Recent immigrants have to take a bus.
And if they get an Owie in modern-day Donner lake, they go to the clinic... for free.
Did the Donners take their meat rare, medium, or well done, with BBQ sauce or A1 sauce?
Or a free plane ride to a red state of city. Free plane tickets courtesy Joe Biden and Mayorkass.
I don't remember reading about some of my grandparents sneaking into Canada and then getting free travel to wherever they wanted to settle, a free house, free firewood, all the free telegrams they could send, plus a whopping 10 dollars a month to keep them in clothes and herring.
I seem to remember hearing instead about them applying, going through quarantine, and creating a sod house on the prairies with their own two hands with no government aid.
My other immigrant grandparents did sneak in, but they did so 17,000 years ago from a land that is now under the Bering Sea.
Colonizers!!
Another pathetic attempt at moral blackmail probably paid for by the government.
My greatx4+ grandparents walked 6000 miles to get here. Underneath the ocean the whole way. While holding their breath and being attacked by sharks and lava and mermaids and orangutans and carp and anchovies and giant fruit bats and breakfast cereals and ....
Once they got here they had to kill Indians and buffalo and giant fruit bats and breakfast cereals just to get to the mill by walking uphill both ways. For no pay at all while all the while the local lords accused my mother of being a hamster and my father of smelling of elderberries.
Illegals today live in luxury
Another failed post.
The left can’t meme.
Ponytail libertarian: *lol snort* I know, right? I mean, some even came over on slave ships! *lol snort*
Two things.
1. No, they are not. Our great grandparents came and assimulated - the modern ones want to change our country to be like the shitholes they fled from.
2. This is something I've been thinking about over the last couple of decades as my opinion on unlimited free travel as a human right - the sort of immigration policies you can have when, maybe, 2% of the world can, with great difficulty, get to your country are not the same sort of policies you can have when people from the other side of the world can get here in as little as 36 hours.
When immigration in the SW was mostly a relative handful of Mexicans/Canadians/Indians crossing back and forth around border towns we could handle that. When we got massive concentrated influxes in New York or San Francisco even our great grandparents put up a hand and cried 'stop!'
No. No they're not. All the reasons listed multiple times above.
Plus my great-grandparents were Americans. As were their grand-grandparents. You'd have to go back to the 1700s.
Mine came over between 1700 and 1741. The ship known as The Daisey. They settled in the Wm. Penn colony and became Amish.
The comments here make a person LOL. I love the one about, my ancestor didn't get anything from the government, except perhaps free land. Or more precisely land taken from the aboriginal owner. Or my ancestors came here legally, you know before there was any real process for immigration. My ancestors were Irish and they came through Gross Isle near Quebec. At some point they headed south through Montreal then Ohio and finally Wisconsin. I doubt there was any process to contain them in Canada and I doubt there was any naturalization process. They likely just voted in the first election after they arrived. So yes, there is little difference to today's immigrants other than their skin color.
When you have a wide open country and everyone is fending for themselves, it was a different world.
The 21st century is also a different world. Different rules for a different world.
What's truly LOL is "people brought up in Venezuela and sneaking across the border are just like your great grandparents."
Give me a fucking break.
Parody and retarded.
Yes, we took it from the aboriginal owner.
Why are we setting things up to allow someone else to do the same to us? What obligation do we have to let someone else murder us and take our stuff?
The new immigrants want in - they can shoot someone and take their place like my great grandparents did. And they can take the risk that people will shoot back.
Go fuck yourself, M4e. Stolen land, my ass. That land was conquered back and forth by various tribes squatting on it. We’re just the most recent (and so far best) conquerers.
Indians never killed anybody!
You’re more than welcome to donate your property (assuming you own a house) to one of many tribes and commit ritualistic seppuku to make up for the sins of your forefathers, but that’s a choice only you can make.
How about I just keep a realistic view of American immigration, while the rest of the commentors here just continue in their fantasy.
Do you allow people to camp out on your property, indefinitely? If not, then you are enforcing a border around YOUR land. Why can't the citizens of the USA enforce the same border around our commonly held land?
Please. Shut up.
Thank you for sparing me the time to read your article by warning me off with the ludicrous headline.
As others have pointed out the Ellis Island immigrants are not a good comparison to current immigrants arriving without legal status into a full blown welfare state. My paternal grandfather showed up from Galicia as a teenage boy, ultimately built a small but successful business and ultimately put 5 sons and 2 daughters through college. All were successful and none spoke a word of Polish. My maternal great grandfather came from Denmark and my mother grew up in abject poverty. And she didn't speak a word of Danish. In neither case did the government show up with a spare tit, to quote Jimmy Stewart. I agree that we need a much better path to legal residency and citizenship for immigrants and I agree that most immigrants are just trying to raise their standard of living by their own labor. But a wide open border with free housing, health care and guaranteed income doesn't solve the problem. In fact it exacerbates it by overwhelming our immigration and welfare systems. The reality is that the open border advocates have created an untenable and chaotic situation that can not be sustained without massive deportation. It didn't have to come to this but it has. Right now illegal immigrants are being offered the opportunity to self deport without prejudice, meaning they can reapply for legal residency via the existing legal process. If they choose to remain they will be deported and barred from reentry. Strikes me as a reasonable proposition for those who really want to assimilate.
WORD.
My great grandparents didn't take over apartment complexes or drive trucks through gatherings.
What losers. Did they not get the NGO hand out?
My great grandparents didn't take over apartment complexes or drive trucks through gatherings.
My grandfather had a Model T. Nobody had a drivers license in those days so when he drove through that parade in Wisconsin they executed the car.
False story. The model T only came in black, not red.
More dishonest shilling from the "Illegale Migranten Uber Alles" squad at Reason.
My ancestors came in three waves that I have been able to identify:
One line of my mother's family traces all the way back to Massachusetts in the 1600s. I'm pretty sure they didn't get free handouts or go around murdering, raping, and looting. Well, OK, fine, *maybe* the militia Colonel in the Revolutionary War killed someone in his ~2 years of action. If "adjuncts" even did any fighting back then.
The second was a bunch of French-Canadians who migrated down into Vermont. Both sides of my family have a lot of French. Again, these were tradesmen, who did not run around getting freebies and again, unless one was secretly a serial killer, they weren't murdering, raping, or stealing either.
The final was my Portugese great-grandfather who came through Ellis Island, had his name Americanized, they may have jumbled up his first and middle name (the records suck so it's impossible to figure out beyond family history). According to my father, his dad was a giant abusive a-hole (I never met him - I distinctly recall finding out around maybe age 8 when I read the obituary that huh, I had *two* grandpas? Remember, this was pre-internet, and if your parents and school don't explain this stuff to you, you wouldn't know it... yes, it makes sense but when you're a child who just knows "Grammie and Grampa," it's not like you're working out the internal logic of it all) --- anyway, despite that, he was still not a freeloader, murderer, rapist, or thief, to my knowledge.
And none of them crossed the border illegally or started voting for f**king commies.
Borrowed from a Reason comment years ago:
"Settling in an undeveloped land and building a civilization with your bare hands is not comparable to moving to a post industrial nation and signing up for welfare."
This is just straight up propaganda.
Off topic but I can't stop laughing. Trump just revoked Biden's security clearances and access to intelligence briefings citing the Hur finding that he is a forgetful elderly man and can't be trusted with classified information.
That's hilarious.
Fucking priceless.
I bet the Dems are losing their shit.
Not as much as Joe is.
Hahahaha
It really Depends...
Now he should have archives demand the return of every document Biden took with him and if Biden doesn't return them quickly enough send the FBI to raid his residence.
Yes, and any documents he shared with Hunter, brother James, 'dr' Jill, etc. The all must be hiding something.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/02/08/now-we-know-who-was-running-the-country-for-joe-biden-n4936803
Well, we now have fresh allegations from Lindy Li, a former Democratic National Committee (DNC) insider, about who was running the White House for Joe Biden.
According to Li, Joe Biden, already staggering from public scrutiny, effectively lost control of the White House after that fateful debate. The event reportedly prompted an audacious power shuffle at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue—one spearheaded by none other than Hunter Biden.
Li alleges that, following Biden’s disastrous debate drubbing, Hunter essentially took over White House operations. Speaking with podcaster Shawn Ryan, she painted a picture of dysfunction at the highest levels of government: “After the [CNN] debate, Hunter basically commandeered the White House. He sat in on all of the White House top-level meetings. We had a former cocaine addict sitting in on the most sensitive meetings of the most consequential and most important government in world history. Does that sit right with you?"
Ryan’s immediate reaction—“No”—reflected what many are surely thinking.
“Without security clearance mind you,” Li added.
The idea that Hunter Biden, with no security clearance, was allegedly dictating the flow of information to his father is a much bigger deal than Elon Musk going after government waste, don’t you think?
“That's who was basically running the show. So Hunter basically battened down the hatches after the debate to make sure his father would only receive intel he pre-approved.”
How much do you think the liberal media will report on this? Nothing at all is a safe bet.
Just desserts.
And if anybody wants to bitch, Biden initiated that by doing it to Trump.
Yup, Democrats did it first. Except Trump can actually justify it.
*applause*
That's glorious.
They might want to check his garage for classified information, too.
They really should insist on returning documents. Focusing on stuff from when he was a Senator or VP. No risk of declassification there.
Why does Reason keep publishing this leftist crap???
Trying to confuse the difference between LEGAL IMMIGRATION and ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is the work of America's enemies.
NO, they are NOT the same at all!
False equivalency. Not sure why Reason wouldn't even publish this. Embarrassing.
Clicks. KMW loves some clicks. They pay the bills for all these leftist fools. She has made Reason more profitable. Sold out her libertarian principles.
My great grandfather came through Ellis Island with his two brothers. They were put on a train to Pittsburgh, where they were given the choice of working in a steel mill or a coal mine. Being unwilling to die prematurely, they picked a third choice.
After rolling up a stake, my ggfather went back home, marrying my ggmother, producing my gmother. She and her bf both wanted to come to the US, but the quota was filled. Luckily Canada would admit them.
They could have come here illegally from Canada -- both had relatives living in Chicago by that point who would have taken them in, and found them work -- but they just didn't want to.
My great grandparents were living in Georgia (the state) and feared the Union army burning their homes. My maternal great grandfather died of ‘camp fever’ (typhoid, diarrhea, pneumonia, or such) while in the Confederate army.
Equating entering through legal channels with entering illegally is grounds to dismiss everything you say out of hand.
Screw this article, its author, and everyone at reason who greenlit it.
The differences between then and now are countless.
1) They came legally.
2) They got jobs.
3) They learned English.
4) They learned American civics.
5) They didn't demand handouts.
6) They raised their children in American culture.
7) They didn't raise the flag of their COO over the American flag.
8) They actually LIKED America, and didn't come here with grievances against it.
9) They succeeded in the American dream, instead of becoming an immediate taxpayer drain.
10) They brought the best of their cultures, and left the 3rd world slop back where it belongs.
That's 10, and I haven't even gotten to any of the bad stuff that today's "migrants" do that our great-grandparents didn't. Like drugs and trafficking and theft and gangs and rape and murder - all with a smirk on their faces as they know that half this country will just roll over and take it, and that the police headquarters has a revolving door.
Y'know, as a Catholic, I am sympathetic to the plight of migrants. But - in typical Leftist fashion - the Democrats overplayed their hand, pushed our tolerance past its limits, and exploited our compassion in order to force every type and caliber of immoral degenerate criminal into our neighborhoods, schools, streets, commerce, and politics.
We're done. You will never ever sell any sane, rational American on the "merits" of any border jumper or visa overstay in the year 2025. Now we're cleaning house - and, once we're done maybe maybe we'll be willing to revisit the subject with a clean slate.
And immigrants who came through Ellis Island were turned back (deported) if they looked like they had any communicable diseases or were otherwise undesirable. And it didn't matter that the return journey could take weeks or months and was all at their own expense.
"You will never ever sell any sane, rational American on the "merits" of any border jumper "
For fun, you should interview recent legal immigrants who went through the proper channels and became naturalized citizens and ask them about the border jumpers.
She and her three children fled chaos and hunger in Venezuela
"And then passed through seven other countries to get to the United States. All of those other South and Central American countries are complete shitholes, so that they didn't qualify as the first safe location. Everybody knows Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico are absolute garbage, so nobody could be expected to try for amnesty there,
-Antonella Marty"
Meanwhile, Americans are expatting to some of those nations because their nest eggs stretch longer there and it never gets cold.
But no, that's not good for the poor helpless migrants fleeing chaos and hunger. They want that brass ring. Turns out in Democrat America, beggars can be choosers.
Calling those places shitholes is totes racist. Also, those places are horrible and expecting these migrants to wait in Mexico as we vette them is a human rights violation.
I can certainly understand wanting to get out of Venezuela. But there are lots of countries nearby that I have considered moving to myself. Admittedly, nothing that borders Venezuela directly, but Costa Rica and Argentina have both been on the list. They're a lot closer than the United States.
I've lived in Argentina. Not bad, good steaks. I recommend the choripan, also.
How are those Milei rental price drops doing, hmm Antonella? Eat your words.
Allowing millions of undocumented aliens into a nation is a recipe for national suicide. That the government in Washington, D.C is handing out hundreds of billions in welfare to keep these people here is treason in itself.
We don't know who these people are, that is up till now where Venezuelan gangs take over apartment complexes and now have spread to a number of states. That's just hunky dory to the liberals. They love them gangs. So much so, they have warned these gang bangers that ICE is coming for them.
You know what Trump should do? He should arrest all these informants and send them to Gitmo. Politicians, lawyers, civic leaders, it doesn't matter arrest them and toss them in Gitmo. We may need to build a larger prison there for holding all those gang bangers and criminals.
Biden, Harris and Mayorkass have committed a treasonous act.
Oh and did you see what happened when Harris and her husband showed up at a sporting event? Nothing...nothing happened. They were ignored. LOL!!
I've seen so many demographic analyses rebutting this. !!!
Jan Van De Beek destroyed it just recently
Borderless Welfare State - The Consequences of Immigration for Public Finances
Muslims reject many Founding Principles.And the immigrants coming in oftern don't even make a positive contribution even to the 3rd generation.
I won't say you are lying but you should know better.
CITY JOURNAL denies almost everything you say
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-real-questions-of-the-immigration-debate
Nicholas Eberstadt too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6vtlKfxOdk
A number of commenters are saying "But they broke the law".
Do you always obey the speed limits? Respect for the law is a two-way street. The law must respect the people by being reasonable and enforceable, and it would help if there was actually a victim to protect. Separating a willing employer from a willing worker, or a willing apartment owner from a willing tenant, is not reasonable, and is not enforceable except by the most un-libertarian of "show me your papers" police states.
And who is the victim you were trying to protect? The only "victim" I can think of is someone who, despite being born in the USA with all its opportunities, is a personal failure and has nothing to offer employers that an uneducated, non-English speaking immigrant can't provide.
Quit socking, Jeffy.
Stop giving them free shit, then let's talk about opening the border.
There's absolutely zero need to import poverty when we have so many native personal failures with nothing to offer employers.
And "free shit" includes medical care, education for their children, translators...
"Do you always obey the speed limits?"
I recognize that if I fuck around and break the speed limit, and get caught, I will not be surprised to find out the consequence. I also know that there are troopers on the road actively trying to find speeders, so I know that anytime I intentionally or accidentally speed there's a decent chance of getting caught.
As crimes go up the seriousness level, the penalties can become pretty dissuasive, even for "victimless crimes" like illegally carrying a concealed weapon, transporting even small amounts of illegal drugs, etc. Even DUI is "victimless" UNTIL there are victims, but you can get arrested for DUI without having caused anyone any harm.
All those things have penalties, and if I fuck around I will found out what those are.
Illegally immigration into the US is largely remedied by the penalty of deportation. Fuck around and find out.
They are not migrants or undocumented whatevers, they are illegal aliens. We owe them nothing except a swift kick out the door. Are their countries hellholes? Well, stay home and fix it, don't come here and take our welfare.
My mother's family came over on the Mayflower. My ancestors on her side fought in the Revolutionary war.
My father's family came over in the 1850s and fought in the civil war for the Union.
In neither case did they come over and demand free stuff.
And also, ask the American Indians how open borders worked out for them? About the only ones that didn't get screwed over by it were the Navajo and that is probably because no one wanted their land.
Maybe Alaska, but that's only because it wasn't colonized until relatively recently.
But that's the point. Colonization is usually pretty good to the colonizers. But it's not for the people whose land is being colonized.
The Middle East is a mess because Arabs (and Turks) colonized the area and forced their culture onto native people. Iran didn't suffer much in terns of being murdered, but their entire culture was displaced by Islam. Same for the Kurds. Same for the Greeks. Most of Turkey was the Byzantine Empire. Greek. Egypt, the natives are the Copts, but they are basically prisoners in their own land thanks to the Arab muslim invaders.
Ironically, Israel is one of the few places re-colonized by its original inhabitants and look at the problems it has with Arab colonizers in all directions. Lebanon was Christian in my lifetime. But thanks to Islamic immigrants, it's a hellhole.
Is this the new Shikha/Fionna?
Huh. I wonder why my great-grandparents went from Ireland to South America and paid coyotes to smuggle them across the southern border instead of just going to Ellis Island like everybody else.
I am SO tired of this argument. The US already takes in more immigrants than any other country in the world. Sure, a lot of them still can't come. There's a huge demand. But we will never meet that demand. Is there some worldwide right to move to the US? I would like to move to Beverly Hills, but it's effectively closed off to me. Is the city of Beverly Hills obligated to provide a house for me?
That's flat out not true. Ellis Island did vigorous screening, and criminals were rejected just like today, but also the disabled, mentally infirm, etc, which we don't really screen for today.
They should! But is there any reason why they can't have those freedoms in Haiti, Venezuela, or Mexico? Does the US have some magical soil that only allows us to be prosperous?
No, they most certainly are not.
The DOGE team discovered that last week FEMA spent $59 million of the American taxpayer's dollars on luxury hotels for illegal aliens, in N.Y. City.
Disband FEMA.
Very dishonest article from a therefore presumably dishonest author.
Wow. Not sure how I missed this one. This woman is a fucking idiot.
Sorry, dear. Poems on the Statue of Liberty don't actually trump the country's written laws. Even if your Latinx professors told you they do.
Until you make the distinction between illegal and legal immigration you'll all just keep sounding like the leftist assholes who are trying to maintain their modern system of slavery.