How Has Israel Changed Since Oct. 7?

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Zach Weissmueller and Liz Wolfe | 11.9.2023 7:35 AM

"As a Jew, I have long cared about the great experiment that is the state of Israel," writes economist Russ Roberts in his book Wild Problems: A Guide to the Decisions that Define Us.

Roberts moved from the U.S. to Jerusalem following an offer to become president of Shalem College in late 2020, leaving behind his job at Stanford's Hoover Institution, a decision he describes as one "only a fool" would make "on narrow utilitarian grounds." But for Roberts, this wasn't a simple utilitarian calculation. It was a wild problem.

"[W]hen it came to who I am and who I want to be, it was a no-brainer in the other direction," he writes. "To play a role in an institution that hopes to prepare the next generation of leaders in Israel would be a privilege close to my heart."

Join Reason's Zach Weissmueller and Liz Wolfe for a discussion with Roberts about life in Israel after the October 7 terrorist attack this Thursday at 1 p.m. Eastern on Reason's YouTube channel.

Sources referenced in this conversation:

Russ Roberts tweet thread, Oct. 25, 2023
Rashida Tlaib's Oct. 8 statement on "Ongoing Violence in Israel and Palestine"
"What Palestinians Really Think of Hamas," by Amaney A. Jamal and Michael Robbins, Oct. 25, 2023
"Israel Proves the Desalination Era Is Here," by Rowan Jacobson, July 29, 2016
Resident patent applications per capita and R&D expenditure per capita, World Intellectual Property Organization 2023 report

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Chumby 1 year ago

No. It still takes US taxpayer dollars to subsidize its existence.

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Rob Misek 1 year ago

Not one bit.

Jews are showing their true colours targeting civilians in refugee camps. When your goal is the genocide of a population, everyone is a human shield.

Jews and Nazis are like peanut butter and chocolate.

Except the holocaust is a lie perpetrated over and over again by Jews and their advocates to provide the ultimate pooor Jew victim identity as they commit crimes against humanity. Jews NEED their bogeyman stories.

Your credit has run out Jews.

When your holocaust lie is no longer protected by the criminalization of the evidence that exposes it your enormous guilt and debt will come due.

What would you like proof of?

Lying
Genocide
Crimes against humanity
Conning the US into WW1 for Britain’s promise of Palestine
Their religion advocates lying
Claiming being in 166 different holocausts

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1. Chinny Chin Chin 1 year ago
  
  Since you're offering, provide proof that the WWII Holocaust was a lie.
  
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  1. Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
    
    I’ve refuted that bullshit propaganda story countless times and to date none of you have ever refuted anything that I’ve said.
    
    There are only two possible explanations for this.
    
    First, I’ve shared the truth that cannot be refuted.
    
    Second, you’re too stupid to refute what you deny.
    
    Which is it?
    
    The following points refute key elements of the holocaust with logic and science. Truth can’t be refuted.
    
    There has been no objective forensic analysis at any supposed site. There is no physical evidence. Any activity that demonstrates and shares evidence to refute the holocaust is a crime in every nation where it allegedly occurred.
    
    The fact that all evidence that refutes the holocaust is criminal in every nation where it allegedly occurred is especially relevant if you are accepting any evidence at all from those nations.
    
    Refusing to consider evidence is the definition of bias, bigotry and a disregard for justice.
    
    Without objective forensic evidence all we have is a story made up of piecemeal recollections of events from paid and coerced fuckwitnesses.
    
    I refute those stories with correctly applied logic and science.
    
    The crucial event of the story is the cyanide gassing of millions of Jews. That couldn’t have happened as claimed. The story is bullshit.
    
    Jews have published books illustrated with pictures of themselves shirtless dragging piles of gassed bodies from the chambers to cremation ovens.
    
    But cyanide is absorbed through the skin and NOBODY could have survived a single day of such activity much less collecting reparations into their old age reminiscing about it years later.
    
    Those Jews lied.
    
    Anyone who ever saw the naked body of somebody who died from cyanide asphyxiation would NEVER forget the red skin colour. The bodies necessary reaction to being unable to process oxygen.
    
    Not a single surviving fuckwitness ever mentioned it.
    
    Also, no dark cherry red skin discolouration was visible in any supposed photographs of bodies of so-called victims of the holocaust.
    
    The fact is that it can’t be explained it and only bigotry prevents you from recognizing the ONLY logical conclusion.
    
    Not a single fuckwitness testimony or alleged photograph of bodies was of anyone who died from cyanide exposure.
    
    So much for the “evidence” of a holocaust.
    
    And so it goes with every bullshit story told by paid and coerced lying Jews. The facts prove otherwise.
    
    Have you ever heard of the Bletchley park decrypts of the famous German enigma machines? It was credited for turning the tide of the war as allies knew what military actions the Germans were planning.
    
    Only released in the 1980s those translated messages included prison camp information, deaths, transfers and requests for medicines to treat illnesses. The numbers of dead don’t support the holocaust narrative of which there was also no mention of.
    
    Here are some actual enigma decrypts from Bletchley park in 1942 when deaths were at their highest.
    
    Covering the period 3rd Aug. 1942 – 25th Sept. 1942
    
    A further examination is made of Concentration Camp figures; deaths from typhus have reached a very high figure in AUSCHWITZ.
    
    A suspected case of typhus is reported from AUSCHWITZ (223b/42). It is probable that on the 6th August Nachschubkdtr. Russland Mitte requests typhus vaccine for 50 men and spottenfever serum for 20
    
    For the first time returns are given for deaths of prisoners (223b/14,24,43,50): the figures for August are: NIEDERHAGEN 21, AUSCHWITZ 6829 (or 6889) men, 1525 women;.
    
    Firstly the number of dead for the month are nowhere near what is necessary to support the holocaust narrative.
    
    Secondly, notable is the concern over typhus deaths and the requests for medical supplies to treat.
    
    Thirdly, are you willing and eager to perform the feeble mental gymnastics required to believe, as the story goes, that Germans were communicating in code about prison camps while talking plainly about their military actions with their top secret enigma machines?
    
    That would require you to really believe that Germany INTENTIONALLY lost the war to cover up the holocaust while ostensibly leaving lying witnesses alive in the prison camps to tell their stories as they retreated.
    
    The contradiction refutes the story.
    
    Let’s not forget another old timey favourite.The story of Babi Yar is a popular lesson in Jewish schools described as the single largest event of the holocaust.
    
    The lesson is that between 30,000 and 100,000 Jews were taken to a ravine in Ukraine where they were killed.
    
    The story is told by one Jewish survivor, Dina Pronicheva, an actress who testified that she was forced to strip naked and marched to the edge of the ravine. When the firing squad shot, she jumped into the ravine and played dead. After being covered by thousands of bodies and tons of earth she dug herself out, unscathed, when the coast was clear and escaped to tell the story.
    
    She is apparently the only person in history to successfully perform a matrix bullet dodge at a firing squad. The soldier aiming point blank at her never noticed her escape. Never walked a few steps to the edge of the ravine to finish her off.
    
    They were stripped naked to leave no evidence. Naked she had no tools to dig herself out from under 30,000 bodies and tons of dirt.
    
    Only after the deed was done, the nazis realized that so many bullet ridden bodies were evidence. Oops, rookie move. So they brought more Jews and millions of cubic feet of firewood to dig them up, cremate them on gravestones and scatter their ashes in surrounding fields.
    
    There has been no forensic investigation at the site. None of the bullets allegedly burned with the bodies have been recovered. Not one shred of physical evidence of this has ever been found.
    
    There are military aerial photographs of the area at the time but they don’t show any evidence of the narrative, no people, no equipment, no firewood, no moved earth, no tracks of any kind.
    
    Simply stating these facts is a crime in Ukraine where the Babi Yar narrative is taught in school.
    
    The numbers of dead from German enigma decrypts does align with Red Cross numbers.
    
    The Red Cross was founded in 1863 with the purpose of protecting the interests of victims of conflicts.
    
    The Red Cross regularly visited all prison camps. It was their job to report the cause of all deaths. They recorded a grand total of 271,000 among all camps for the entire war. It is a matter of record.
    
    The holocaust fairytale requires us to believe that they were so unaware of what might be happening that they completely missed 95% of the victims in prison camps.
    
    AND that they had not so much as an inkling that a holocaust was going on right under their noses even though allied media propaganda was reporting it and it was their sole mission to identify it. Because there is no evidence of any Red Cross document suggesting they did.
    
    Are you performing those feeble mental gymnastics?
    
    Zyklon B is an off the shelf insecticide used for years before and during the war widespread and throughout Europe among other places in Prison camps to delouse clothing and bedding to save lives by preventing deadly typhus. The system employed heating to release cyanide gas, fans to circulate the gas and more to exhaust the chambers to make the de loused articles safe to handle.
    
    Pictures of this equipment and the small de lousing buildings with clothing racks still exist in Prison camps. But no evidence of any gas delivery system has ever been found in the shower houses where the bullshit holocaust allegedly occurred. In fact, the story has changed to that they just threw the heat activated pellets onto the cold drainless floors in rooms full of people.
    
    Such an inefficient method would have taken too long to kill the required number of Jews. The pellets couldn’t be spread evenly in rooms full of people. The cold drainless floors would have delayed the release of cyanide from the pellets that people would have swept away from themselves. Any dead would have released all their bodily fluids and their bodies covering the pellets. Vomit would have been added to the floor prior to entering such a room.
    
    According to the testimony of the so called survivor, the timing entering the chambers immediately, the details shirtless survivor, piles of bodies with unvented cyanide gas pockets in every space between bodies, death from repeated exposure as per testimony would have been necessary, not just possible.
    
    All Jews saying they did that necessarily lied.
    
    According to Martin Gilbert in his book, Holocaust Journey, the gas chambers at Treblinka utilized carbon monoxide from diesel engines. At the Nuremberg trial of the Nazi war criminals, the American government charged that the Jews were murdered at Treblinka in “steam chambers,” not gas chambers.
    
    Gasoline engine exhaust contains about ten times the carbon monoxide than diesel. Diesel exhaust is relatively safe. Even if the Diesel engines were running at their maximum of 500 ppm, death would take several hours. Far too long to support the narrative.
    
    If Germans had used gasoline engines, death would have been in a few minutes. But in the holocaust narrative for treblinka diesel was used even though Germany had plenty of gasoline for their tanks. Nuremberg still recorded that they were “steam chambers”.
    
    Somebody is lying. They weren’t both steam chambers and diesel gas chambers. Which stupid lie is more believable? Does it even matter to you?
    
    The story of gassing Jews began as British propaganda to turn popular opinion against Germany. It was inspired to draw attention away from Jewish Bolshevik war crimes in Russia because that would work against allied propaganda. It also served global Jewish interests to create undeserved sympathy for Jews who had publicly organized boycotts of Germany to drive Germany to war.
    
    There is a documented letter from the head of British propaganda to the head of the war office recommending that they cease the “gassing Jews“ propaganda because there was no evidence for it and if found out would work against their propaganda efforts.
    
    Head of British Psychological Warfare Executive (Propaganda), Victor Cavendish-Bentick in a handwritten note, wrote on Aug 27th, 1943,
    
    “We have had a good run for our money with this gas chamber story we have been putting about, but don’t we run the risk eventually we are going to be found out and when we are found out the collapse of that lie is going to bring the whole of our psychological warfare down with it? So isn’t it rather time now to let it drift off by itself and concentrate on other lines that we are running.”
    
    Public Record Office Document F0371/34551 revealed by Stephen Mitford Goodson, ‘Inside the South African Reserve Bank’.
    
    Jews had been publicly claiming holocausts of 6 million Jews in various nations no less than 166 times between 1900 and 1945. Only to coerce sympathy to raise money and provide the ultimate poor Jew victim identity to be milked when required. Like the wastes of skin who fake cancer on go fund me pages.
    
    What’s the probability after being proven lying over 166 times that the 167th claim is true? Better to buy a lottery ticket. Though the bullshiit narrative has been like a lottery bonanza for Jews.
    
    The only thing the bullshit holocaust narrative has in common with WW2 is that they were both the creation of Jews.
    
    These Jewish leaders are admitting it. Are they lying?
    
    They are properly referenced quotes from Jewish leaders demonstrating that they had intended to create and force Germany into WW2.
    
    That kind of evil is absolutely relevant when considering the character required to lie to the world about a holocaust for the 167 th time.
    
    “We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany”. David A Brown, national chairman, united Jewish campaign, 1934.
    
    “The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany …holy war against Hitlers people”
    
    Chaim Weismann, the Zionist leader, 8 September 1939, Jewish chronicle.
    
    The Toronto evening telegram of 26 February 1940 quoted rabbi Maurice l. Perlzweig of the world Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience that” The world Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years”.
    
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    1. Chinny Chin Chin 1 year ago
      
      Wow, you really released the Kraken, didn't you?
      
      I googled the quote ostensibly from Victor Cavendish-Bentick. That led to a reddit forum, which had a link to a Christian website, which had a link to a website (touting a "New White World") that had a link to pages of a book called "Allied Wartime Diplomacy". There I found a letter from an "H. Hewitt", wherein the author worries about how Russian soldiers will treat Eastern Europeans as they advance towards Berlin.
      
      Nothing by Cavendish-Bentick. Nothing about "gas chamber story".
      
      Unless you can provide a link to an image of the original letter, consider yourself refuted.
      
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      1. Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
        
        “Public Record Office Document F0371/34551 revealed by Stephen Mitford Goodson, ‘Inside the South African Reserve Bank’.”
        
        I provided a reference that you haven’t refuted.
        
        You need to learn how to use google.
        
        Cavendish-Bentinck added a handwritten note to William Strang, who as an Assistant Under-Secretary was joint-third in the Foreign Office hierarchy:
        “I daresay that my minute is too late to be of use but I feel certain that we are making a mistake in publicly giving credence to this gas chambers story.”10
        
        In fact he was not too late: Cavendish-Bentinck and Allen became in effect the first successful Holocaust revisionists.
        
        Central Department’s first response was: “it seems too late to make substantial changes. But we could telegraph to Washington and Moscow.
        ”At 9.05 p.m. that evening a “Most Immediate” telegram was despatched (marked “of particular secrecy and should be retained by the authorised recipient and not passed on”):
        
        “On further reflection we are not convinced that evidence regarding use of gas chambers is substantial enough to justify inclusion in a public declaration ...and would prefer if United States Government agree, that sentence in question should end at ‘concentration camps’.“Please telegraph United States Government’s views urgently.”11
        
        Similar telegrams were sent to the Prime Ministers of the Dominions (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa) retracting the earlier reference to “gas chambers”.
        The Americans agreed to the changes. Secretary of State Cordell Hull duly notified his Ambassador in Moscow:
        “At the suggestion of the British Government which says there is insufficient evidence to justify the statement regarding execution in gas chambers, it has been agreed to eliminate the last phrase.”12
        
        The words “where they are now being systematically put to death in gas chambers” were removed from the statement before it was published simultaneously in London and Washington.13
        
        10 Victor Cavendish-Bentinck to William Strang, 27th August 1943, FO 371/34551
        11 Foreign Office to Washington, Telegram No. 5741, 27th August 1943, FO 371/34551
        12 Cordell Hull (Secretary of State) to William Harrison Standley (U.S. Ambassador, Moscow), 30th August 1943, Foreign Relations of the United States: Diplomatic Papers, 1943, General, Vol. 1(Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1963), pp 416-417
        13 ‘German Crimes in Poland: A British Warning’, The Times, 30th August 1943, p 413
        
        https://carolynyeager.net/how-british-psychological-warfare-resulted-short-term-victory-long-term-loss-europe
        
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        Chinny Chin Chin 1 year ago (edited)
        
        You wrote nothing to refute, Robbie. You provided word salad, and linked to word salad.
        
        Googling “Public Record Office Document F0371/34551” reveals only posts discussing the alleged letter. Nobody seems to have a copy.
        
        “Proof” and “evidence” would be the original letter, which you haven’t provided.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
        
        You don’t understand the purpose of references.
        
        They are the acceptable proof of existence of a document unless they can be credibly refuted.
        
        You certainly haven’t done that.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        You really do need to learn how to google. Or lie better Kol Nidre boy.
        
        Here is a link to one of my references proving that the allies didn’t believe the gas chambers propaganda they were pushing.
        
        Regarding,
        
        Cordell Hull (Secretary of State) to William Harrison Standley (U.S. Ambassador, Moscow), 30th August 1943, Foreign Relations of the United States: Diplomatic Papers, 1943, General, Vol. 1(Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1963), pp 416-417
        13
        
        “Memorandum by the Adviser on Political Relations ( Dunn ) to the Acting Chief of the Division of European Affairs ( Atherton )
        [ Washington ,] April 30, 1943.
        Mr. Atherton: The Secretary this afternoon said that the President had asked him to have drafted a form of announcement the President might make with respect to the use of poison gas by any of our enemies. He preferred not to take any action with respect to the reported threat of the use of poison gas by the Germans against the Russians such as the announcement in that respect made by Prime Minister Churchill of Great Britain on April 21 last, but he would prefer to have any declaration or announcement he would make apply to any enemy situation where poison gas might be employed.
        
        I don’t know just whom you might choose to start the draft on such a pronouncement.
        
        James Clement Dunn”
        
        https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1943v01/d416
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Your proof is whether they would include statements, in a one-time presidential announcement, about poison gas being used against Russians on the battlefield? Jesus Christ, you are ridiculous.
        
        I also notice you didn’t produce the letter requested by Chinny even after making fun of his Google skills.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        This is for people intelligent enough to recognize the truth. Not you.
        
        It demonstrates that the allies didn’t think the Germans were using poison gas at all. They removed all reference to it.
        
        It also corroborates every other reference that I posted.
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        So, you can't actually rebut your own "evidence" once shown not to support your position, and then you also can't provide the "evidence" you mocked someone else for not being able to find?
        
        So much winning for you. Good thing Jew hating Nazis like you are too stupid to actually be concerning.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        I demonstrated that the allies had no evidence of their enemies using poison gas in WW2.
        
        Cyanide is a poison gas.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        And yet, there is ample evidence of it. You just don't want to see it because you're a pathetic Jew hating Nazi.
      2. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        You've just found out exactly the type of "evidence" that Nazi Misek will provide.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        Hahaha
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Yes, we all laugh at the pablum you rely on to support your ant-Semitic Nazi propaganda.
        
        I mean, did you even read your link? It explains the reason the gas chamber line was removed and explains how this was clearly wrong to have done.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        You obviously can’t comprehend what you’re reading.
        
        I recommend that everyone read it and draw their own conclusions about fact based evidence.
        
        You could also jump to the end and read their final conclusion for context
        
        “With so many gaps in the documentary record, we might never know precisely how these stories were built up. What we can say is that existing SOE and PWE records fatally undermine one of Prof. Richard Evans’ arguments against David Irving. As noted above, Evans wrote:
        “There was no evidence here or anywhere else, indeed, that the British Political Warfare Executive had invented the story of the gas chambers.”
        In fact PWE/SOE certainly did invent stories about homicidal gassings – the inventions were circulated long before any such gassings are now alleged to have taken place.”
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        From your own article: "I shall attempt to clarify what these documents tell us about the role of British propaganda and intelligence in relation to the initial allegations of homicidal gassing by National Socialist Germany."
        
        It only deals with initial gassing claims (not even involving the Jews). It doesn't say gassing of Jews and others didn't occur, it just counters that the gassing didn't occur as early as the British claimed.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
        
        “The conclusions can be briefly summarised: •Britain’s Political Warfare Executive and its predecessor first deployed stories of homicidal gassing as part of propaganda efforts in two areas unconnected to treatment of Jews. Their objective was to spread dissension and demoralisation among German soldiers and civilians, and among Germany’s allies. •Partly because they knew of these earlier propagandist initiatives, Victor Cavendish-Bentinck and his British intelligence colleague Roger Allen disbelieved later stories that homicidal gas chambers had been used to murder Poles and Jews. They succeeded in having these allegations removed from the draft of a joint Anglo-American Declaration on German Crimes in Poland, published on 30th August 1943.”
        
        Oh! Now I see how your dysfunctional mind is working.
        
        You understand it to mean that the British government initially invented the gas chamber propaganda for people other than Jews.
        
        That the real Jewish gas chamber stories were fact based and happened later.
        
        Yeah, what makes you believe that to be true?
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        I believe that because it is a resoundingly proven fact by testimony from victims, soldiers, Nazis, and others. There is also video evidence coupled with actual buildings and graveyards. There’s tremendous documentation from the Nazis about what they did. I mean, nothing has been more documented and proven than the atrocities of the Holocaust. There’s literally no one who isn’t wickedly anti-Semitic like you who thinks otherwise, including the linked “proof” you provided.
        
        At the end of the day, you are a snail’s cum-stain of a human pushing the Biggest Lie ever told because you are such a bigot and such a fan of Nazis that your tiny little feeble brain won’t accept reality. This apparently includes the reality found in your own cited “evidence.”
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        You haven’t refuted a word I’ve said.
        
        What does that make you?
        
        Hahaha
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Everything you claim has been refuted and I refuted your specific reference as well. Since I accomplished that, you decided to simply engage in a bald assertion rather than responding substantively because you knew you have already been shown to be wrong.
        
        Here you go though, this link will provide you with a lot of great information: https://www.ushmm.org/
        
        I suggest you take a break from your goose stepping and review it.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        I’m pleased with the optics.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        With your lack of brain power, that doesn't surprise me.
        
        Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
        
        Misek, you dumb bitch, the Holocaust is a proven fact. You just embarrass yourself with all this nazi fringe bullshit.
        
        It’s over. Time for you to go.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Denial without refuting using good logic is nothing more than irrational bickering.
        
        What good logic can you provide here and now to support your claim that you have specifically refuted anything that I’ve said?
        
        I always challenge you fuckwits to do this and you always fail miserably.
        
        I won’t be holding my breath.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        This refutes everything you claim.
        
        https://www.ushmm.org/
        
        You're just a Nazi loving moron who hates Jews so much you won't accept reality.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        If it did, you could demonstrate it by quoting what i said and quoting from your link that specifically refutes it.
        
        You haven’t, it doesn’t and you won’t.
        
        Linking to a generic Jewish propaganda page doesn’t refute anything, specifically not what I’ve said.
        
        Your irrational bickering is tiresome.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Yup, I see you can’t refute anything. Just as I expected.
        
        And it's not a "generic Jewish propaganda page." It's literally the website to the Holocaust Museum. You are such a worthless sack of squid vomit.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        If you presented anything at all from that website demonstrating irrefutable proof of a holocaust, I woul necessary concur.
        
        But because there was no holocaust, nobody ever will.
        
        Go ahead. Find any proof and put your money down. I’ll gladly take it.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        I wonder if you know how stupid you sound claiming there's no evidence of the Holocaust. Seriously, to claim such shows such profound levels of stupid that you most likely can't even feed yourself.
        
        But you're not looking for evidence, you simply don't want to believe it so you won't. You're such a vile Nazi Jew hater that nothing will ever change your mind. Even the copious amounts of information found in libraries across the globe and quite clearly presented at the Holocaust Museum.
        
        Face it, you're just a stupid, unevolved Nazi. That's your problem.
        
        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        Hahaha
        
        I’ve rubbed yours and every other lying waste of skin Kol Nidre boys faces in your own shit.
        
        You all claim to have millions of pieces of irrefutable proof of a holocaust, and trot out pages of generic useless Jewish propaganda, but NEVER present even a single piece of your so called evidence to support your claim.
        
        Of all your horseshit not one piece of irrefutable proof you’re willing to lay your shekels on.
        
        Because it never happened.
        
        The ONLY reason your fucked up conspiracy still exists is because it’s a crime punishable by imprisonment to expose it in EVERY nation where the evidence to do so exists.
        
        I want to criminalize lying. Jews and their useless advocates have criminalized exposing their lies.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        You still floundering with your screeching nonsense?
        
        Don't you have like a Hitler celebration party or goose stepping march to go to?
        
        TheReEncogitationer 1 year ago
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel, Hitler's Birthday is April 20th, so Herr Misek has until then to go celebrate... unless he does like Der Fuhrer and dresses like Sinter Klass at Christmas time. I wouldn't let any kid near him, though.
        🙂
        😉
        
        TheReEncogitationer 1 year ago (edited)
        
        It gets more insane, IS.
        
        Once last year, Herr Misek tried to prove his deranged view with a Chemistry Web Site on Cyanide and its property and uses…and the very Site he used said Cyanide was used by Nazi Germany in the Holocaust!
        
        Delusional!
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Prove it.
        
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        Rob Misek 1 year ago
        
        You may have noticed that I quote Jews often.
        
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        TheReEncogitationer 1 year ago
        
        Well, since you think Jews are liars, doesn't that make you a liar too? And since you think lying should be a crime, doesn't that make you a criminal in your own eyes?
        
        Turn yourself into yourself, Herr Misek!
        
        And Fuck Off, Nazi!
        
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        TheReEncogitationer 1 year ago
        
        Your words and cites from last Holiday Season are all on here for anyone craven and desperate enough to look for them.
        
        Fuck Off, Nazi!
        
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2. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
  
  Oh look, vile Nazi POS doesn't agree with what Jewish people do. Shocker!
  
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3. TheReEncogitationer 1 year ago
  
  Israel hasn't changed, but neither have Jew-haters.
  
  Fuck Off, Nazi!
  
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  1. Rob Misek 1 year ago
    
    What would you like proof of?
    
    Lying
    Genocide
    Crimes against humanity
    Conning the US into WW1 for Britain’s promise of Palestine
    Their religion advocates lying
    Claiming being in 166 different holocausts
    
    With a resume like that, who wouldn’t hate Jews?
    
    You’re your own worst enemy Kol Nidre boy.
    
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LIBertrans 1 year ago

Will Lizard say the Hamas attack was Israel's fault for letting females have individual rights? Stay tuned... This just in: Alabama Army Of God terrorists attack Ohio. 4600 dead, wounded or kidnapped!

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1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
  
  Hank, I think it’s time I got ahold of someone where you live, so you can finally be put in a mental health facility. You obviously shouldn’t be running around unsupervised anymore. I’m sure that you meet the guidelines to have you put away.
  
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Commenter_XY 1 year ago (edited)

Hopefully Liz Wolfe sees this before 1pm EST. Some questions for Russ Roberts.

Gershon Baskin (noted peace activist) has recently come out and said that he was more or less duped by his Hamas interlocutor. Is the mood within Israel that Israelis were ‘taken’ (completely blinded) by Hamas?

Annexation post-war (Gaza, Judea, and Samaria)…Yes or No

Could you comment on Mansour Abbas, leader of Ra’am. He seems to have a very different approach than PA, or other arab Joint List partners.

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Nardz 1 year ago

Does Israel have US style open borders now?

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Nardz 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1722539989073052066?t=y0tT0xXqJvwg9NEhBhnzVg&s=19

Zelensky now has absolute control of Ukrainian media, outlawed opposition political parties and Ukraine’s Orthodox Church, declared martial law, and uses absolute power under martial law to cancel presidential elections. So much for Biden’s false narrative that the world is in an existential fight to protect democracies from autocracies, wasting billions of US tax dollars.

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Rev Arthur L kuckland 1 year ago

1400 less people?

I'm glad to hear russ is okay, I was worried about him.

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Brandybuck 1 year ago

The rise of anti-semitism on the Left is most distressing. Used to be a far Right wing thing. Still is in some areas of the far Right. But while the Left usually wringed their hands about Palestine, they were never overtly anti-semitic.

Now they are. What the fuck happened? Who the hell took over the American Left and decided Jews were the enemy? I miss the old liberals. Hell, I even somewhat miss the old progressives. These new authoritarian wokesters are scary as fuck.

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1. mtrueman 1 year ago
  
  "What the fuck happened?"
  
  The cold war ended, Israel moved to the far right, politically. Also, the Jewish state has been committing atrocities against non-Jews in the name of Judaism for some time now reflecting badly on all Jews everywhere. This is why thousands of Jewish leftists (with Christians, Muslims and others) occupied New York's Grand Central Station wearing 'Not in our name' t-shirts and displayed banners calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
  
  "While Shabbat is typically a day of rest, we cannot afford to rest while genocide is unfolding in our names," said one rabbi."
  
  "HAPPENING NOW AT NYC'S GRAND CENTRAL STATION: THOUSANDS OF JEWS AND ALLIES HOLD AN EMERGENCY SIT-IN, DEMANDING A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA. WE'RE TAKING OVER THE GRAND CONCOURSE. WE'RE REFUSING TO ALLOW A GENOCIDE BE CARRIED OUT IN OUR NAMES. CEASEFIRE NOW! NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE! "
  
  Reason apparently didn't cover the demonstration. You can read about here:
  https://www.commondreams.org/news/jewish-led-protests
  
  Right wing Jews apparently didn't participate in the demonstration, but the attacks of Oct. 7 have been a catalyst for inspiring unity across America's fractious Left, bring Jews, Muslims, Christians, trans-sexuals and everybody else together under Palestinian flags and banners. This should give you hope if anti-Jewish sentiment concerns you.
  
  We know how to combat anti-semitism, do you have the courage to join the fight?
  
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  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
    
    Moved to the right? Israel is socialist and has a lot of the leftist bullshit you long for. You just don’t want them to defend themselves against Islamic monsters.
    
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    1. mtrueman 1 year ago
      
      The Labor party is socialist. It's influence in the Israeli parliament is only a shadow of what is was under Golda Meir and such leaders. Today it seats 4 members out of 120. The Likud party holds power today in alliance with other parties even further to the right. You can check the Knesset composition if you doubt me.
      
      " Israel is socialist"
      
      The kibutz movement was totally socialist. Today Israel is only partially socialist like North America or Europe.
      
      "You just don’t want them to defend themselves against Islamic monsters."
      
      I want both parties to reach a political settlement. Israel's policy of pursuing a military solution is ill conceived and doomed to failure. It could spark WWIII, and will only hurt Israel in the long term, and Jews world wide as the Jewish state continues to perpetrate atrocities against non Jews.
      
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      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
        
        They’re certainly more socialist than we are. That isn’t in question. And no you don’t want them defending themselves. Hamas and every Muslim that believes in their bullshit will never allow peace. The destruction of Israel, and the extermination of all Jews is in their charter.
        
        So j short, everything I said is spot on, and your entire reply utter nonsense.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "everything I said is spot on"
        You mean Netanyahu and his government has moved to the Left? Is that what you truly believe?
        
        "And no you don’t want them defending themselves. "
        
        I've tried to make it clear that I want a negotiated political settlement. 'Defending themselves' by killing thousands of unarmed children is self defeating and endangers Jews all over the world. Do you really think that these atrocities make Israel safer? They bring the entire world closer to destruction.
        
        "The destruction of Israel, and the extermination of all Jews is in their charter."
        
        I doubt Jews would accept those terms.
        
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    2. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
      
      He's openly being anti-Semitic in order to continue his troll. It's sad, but that's mtrueman.
      
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      1. mtrueman 1 year ago (edited)
        
        “He’s openly being anti-Semitic in order to continue his troll.”
        
        You keep repeating that. Where’s the evidence? I’m concerned about the future of Israelis and to a lesser extend, the safety of Jews world wide. My comments have stated as much. Yours are without substance, aimed to slander and nothing more. Do you have anything intelligent to say on any topic? It doesn't have to be about Israel, the middle east or me. Something completely different. Intelligent and different. Show us what you're capable of.
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        Oh, now you're concerned. I guess you getting called out for being anti-Semitic has you doing some back peddling now. Well done.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "Oh, now you’re concerned."
        
        I've always been concerned. Anti-semitism is on the rise because of the atrocities perpetrated by the Israeli government against non Jews. The only way out of this is to seek a political settlement. Thousands of Jews in New York agree with me, and all you can do is slander us all as anti-semitic. Why are you holding back on the self hating Jew slur? Isn't that the right's reflexive reaction to Jews who dare criticize Israel's policies?
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Self hating Jew slur? I’m not holding back because I don’t believe in such a thing. Not surprised though that you latch onto even more bigotry.
        
        Nice try though trying to deflect from your anti-Semitism, doorknob.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "Nice try though trying to deflect from your anti-Semitism, doorknob."
        
        What about racist? You might as well call me a racist. In for a penny in for a pound. Rank the following in order of heinousness
        racism
        anti-racism
        anti-semitism
        Show us what you're made of.
        
        "Not surprised though that you latch onto even more bigotry. "
        
        Guilty as charged. I'm a born latcher ontoer. I can't help it. I blame society.
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        Why would I call you a racist? You've only spouted anti-Semitic nonsense here. Are you saying you're a racist too?
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "Why would I call you a racist? "
        
        Why wouldn't you? Got anything better to do?
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        I see you're struggling now. Tough when you bullshit gets fully called out, isn't it?
        
        Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
        
        I’m definitely calling you out as anti semitic. And it’s no slur, just the truth.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        Yawn. Work on your shtick.
        
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2. Bill Godshall 1 year ago
  
  Pro Palestinian and anti Israeli activists and groups have helped organize and participated in left wing protests in Democrat cities throughout America for at least the past 45 years, including BLM protests/riots in 2020 (along with communists, socialists and Antifa).
  
  I never understood why most Jews in America keep voting for Democrats, or why Jews were/are often leaders of many/most left wing activist groups.
  
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  1. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
    
    The Marxist ties between the far left and Palestinian organizations that has been around for a long time is unfortunately unknown by so many.
    
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    1. mtrueman 1 year ago
      
      "The Marxist ties between the far left and Palestinian organizations"
      
      Hamas springs out of the Muslim Brotherhood, a conservative religious group fostered and funded by the Israeli government as a foil to Fatah, the socialist PLO under Arafat, and now Abbas, the only Palestinian leader the Israelis are willing to talk with.
      
      "is unfortunately unknown by so many."
      
      It's only unknown to those who can't bother to educate themselves. Here's some other things you may not know about. The ANC, IRA, FLQ, FLN, SWAPO, NLF, MPLA and any other national liberation movement had links to Marxism. Anti Marxists tended to side with the colonialists.
      
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      1. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        Thanks for your retarded nonsense. Now, go play your stupid game with someone else you worthless doorknob.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "Thanks for your retarded nonsense. "
        
        Another stupid comment without substance. But perhaps I wasn't clear enough. National liberation movements like the movement we see today that marches under the "Free Palestine" banner, have always been leftist. There's no excuse for anyone with a brain and curiosity to not be aware of this. Rightists have opposed these movements, just as they oppose the movement for Palestine.
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        No, you made your nonsense clear as always, doorknob.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        All you have to offer is name calling and other childish taunts. The notion that Hamas is leftist can only spring from profound ignorance. The movement in the US and Europe under the "Free Palestine" banner is leftist and our best hope to counter the rising anti-semitism engendered by Israel's continued atrocities perpetrated in the name of all Jews. The right vehemently opposes the movement for Palestine, all but guaranteeing the spread anti-semitic violence.
        
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        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        For you, yup. Also, I didn't realize you were an anti-Semitic doorknob. You should go chat with Misek above. You two would get along splendidly.
        
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        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        "You should go chat with Misek above. "
        
        If anyone responds to me, I am almost always happy to engage. This idea that you parrot, that promoting a 'Free Palestine' is anti-semitic, is not doing Jews in America any favors. It's transparently false and reeks of desperation. The 'self-hating Jew' slur is even more ludicrous. Better stick to your insults and school yard taunts. You're not going to improve on Israel's woefully inept attempts to slander her opponents.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Actually, “free Palestine” is a fairly anti-Jewish statement. You can pretend otherwise to hide your anti-Semitism. But it was actually this statement: “engendered by Israel’s continued atrocities perpetrated in the name of all Jews.”
        
        This shows me you don’t actually know what’s going on and are more than fine to parrot anti-Semitic canards.
        
        So yeah, you’re an anti-Semitic doorknob.
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        " You can pretend otherwise to hide your anti-Semitism. "
        
        Is that really all you've got? Once I call you out for your childish taunts, you reflexively fall back on baseless charges of anti-semitism. There's nothing of substance there, only empty name calling.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        It’s not baseless. Read all your comments for this article. You’re clearly anti-Semitic. If you don’t like being called that, I suggest you stop being anti-Semitic. It’s pretty easy to not be a bigot. Give it a shot.
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        " Read all your comments for this article. "
        
        Not only have I read them, I wrote them. You continue to fall back on baseless name calling and childish taunts. Try contributing something of substance.
        
        I've pointed out that Hamas isn't Marxist, if you disagree, make your case.
        I've mentioned the anti-war movement's slogan 'Free Palestine.' If you think 'Enslave Palestine' is less anti-semitic, make your case.
        
        I suspect you simply, out of partisan reflex, oppose leftist anti-war movements and slandering them as anti-semitic is the knee jerk reaction. I doubt you've put any thought into this and your eagerness to descend into school boy taunts bears me out.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Oh, look at the anti-Semitic doorknob continue his attempted antagonistic trolling.
        
        Keep selling your intellectual soul, you pathetic fool.
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        More childish taunts. I welcome any substantive comments you can add. So far you've not got past mindless repetition. If you can do any better, I promise you a sincere response.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        Except you meet substance with childish nonsense, because you’re troll, which you’ve already admitted to being. The only interesting thing to have learned from your posts today is that you’re apparently an anti-Semite as well.
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        Anti-semite, troll, fool, doorknob, retard, etc. Is this your idea of a substantive response? If so, I'm not impressed. You are wasting my time.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
        
        No, it’s not meant to be substantive at all. I’m engaging in complete and total condescension and mocking of you. You don’t deserve honest discourse because you don’t engage in it.
        
        Therefore, I have chosen the responsive path that fits best with what you do.
        
        mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        The path you've chosen ends in a mute user, you ignorant bore.
        
        Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago
        
        Oh no, the anti-Semitic nonsense troll who never engages in honest discussion might mute me!!! Whatever shall I do?!?!?!
    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
      
      People are finding out now. With a little luck this might destroy the democrat party. That would be an incredible gift to the entire world.
      
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      1. mtrueman 1 year ago
        
        Bring the war home. That was the slogan of the Weather Underground, I believe. You might get your wish.
        
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3. Inquisitive Squirrel 1 year ago (edited)
  
  This country is in dire need of classical liberals, as they really don’t seem to exist anymore.
  
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Bill Godshall 1 year ago

Since Democrats and the left wing news media have referred to Netanyahu as a "far right wing extremist" for the past 3 decades,
nobody should be surprised that many Democrats and left wing media propagandists have revealed their anti Semitism since Hamas invaded Israel and massacred 1,400 innocent civilians.

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1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo 1 year ago
  
  The democrat party has always engaged in massive bigotry.
  
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