Why Hate Speech Laws Backfire
A new history of free speech argues the best way to defeat hate speech is by openly confronting it in the public square.
HD DownloadHere's a brutal irony about regulating hate speech: Such laws often end up hurting the very people they are supposed to protect.
That's one of the central lessons in Jacob Mchangama's important new book, Free Speech: A History from Socrates to Social Media. Mchangama heads up the Danish think tank Justitia. He's worried about a proposal that would make hate speech a crime under European Union (EU) law and give bureaucrats in Brussels sweeping powers to prosecute people spewing venom at religious and ethnic minorities, members of the LGBT+ community, women, and others.
Europe's history with such laws argues against them. In the 1920s, Germany's Weimar Republic strictly regulated the press and invoked emergency powers to crack down on Nazi speech. It censored and prosecuted the editor of the anti-Semitic Nazi paper Der Stürmer, Julius Streicher, who used his trial as a platform for spreading his views and his imprisonment as a way of turning himself into a martyr and his cause into a crusade. When the Nazis took power in the early '30s, Mchangama stresses, they expanded existing laws and precedents to shut down dissent and freedom of assembly.
Contemporary scholarship suggests that there can be a "backlash effect" when governments shut down speech, leading otherwise moderate people to embrace fringe beliefs. Mchangama points to a 2017 study published in the European Journal of Political Research that concluded extremism in Western Europe was fueled in part by "extensive public repression of radical right actors and opinions."
In 1965, the United Kingdom passed a law banning "incitement to racial hatred," but one of the very first people prosecuted under it was a black Briton who called whites "vicious and nasty people" in a speech. More recently, Mchangama notes that radical feminists in England "have been charged with offending LGBT+ people because they insist there are biological differences between the sexes. In France, 'an LGBT+ rights organization was fined for calling an opponent of same-sex marriage a 'homophobe.'"
"Once the principle of free speech is abandoned," warns Mchangama, "any minority can end up being targeted rather than protected by laws against hatred and offense."
That's what happened in Canada in the 1990s after the Supreme Court there ruled that words and images that "degrade" women should be banned. The decision was based in part on the legal theories of feminist author Andrea Dworkin, whose books on why pornography should be banned were briefly seized by Canadian customs agents under the laws she helped to inspire.
First Amendment rights are still popular in the United States, with 91 percent of us in a recent survey agreeing that "protecting free speech is an important part of American democracy." But 60 percent of us also said that the government should prohibit people from sharing a racist or bigoted idea.
Hearing hateful words and ideas outrages and discomforts most of us, but Mchangama's history of free speech underscores that state suppression can grant those words and ideas more power and influence. And that the best antidote to hate in a free and open society is not to hide from it but to openly—and persuasively—confront it.
Listen to my Reason Interview podcast with Jacob Mchangama here.
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This can never happen; it is long established truth that laws promulgated by those especially with good intentions can never ever be used against them.
Just as when Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option” to push through presidential nominations…0h, wait
Benevolent authoritarianism is good authoritarianism. - left libertarians
To be fair there are a lot of left libertarians that truly are libertarian, and they're probably some of the strongest voices against the authoritarian madness starting to grip the West.
It's just that the trolls and fifty-centers who identify as left-libertarian here are anything but.
Please define left libertarian, and right libertarian too while you're at it.
The primary difference is regarding capitalism (not to be confused with the free-market).
- Right libertarianism supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of natural resources and private property.
- Left-libertarianism combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural resources instead.
Both support natural law, negative rights, and eliminating the modern welfare state.
Bret Weinstein is an example of an actual left-libertarian.
Most people here that identify as left-libertarians aren't.
The Reasonistas merely use it to signal that they're contrarians, but still cool with the way sex and drugs work for the urban elite.
Guys like White Mike, Brandybuck and sarcasmic are your average CNN-watching, big-government-boosting Democratic Party voters.
Jeff and Shrike are actual textbook fascists.
You expose your ignorance when you claim classic liberals like Hayek are "fascist".
Since I align with Hayek I am quoting him in an essay about you conservatives:
This fear of trusting uncontrolled social forces is closely related to two other characteristics of conservatism: its fondness for authority and its lack of understanding of economic forces. Since it distrusts both abstract theories and general principles, it neither understands those spontaneous forces on which a policy of freedom relies nor possesses a basis for formulating principles of policy. Order appears to the conservatives as the result of the continuous attention of authority, which, for this purpose, must be allowed to do what is required by the particular circumstances and not be tied to rigid rule.
Hayek 'Why I Am Not a Conservative".
Your love of authority and strongmen is the fascist characteristic a person can have.
Not being a conservative doesn't excuse you to jumping and propping up authoritarianism under the guise of globalism and rule by elite, which OSF promulgates.
How much do you want to bet he just read the title; “Why I am not a conservative.” and didn’t read anything that came after that?
It is shrike. Vegas wouldn't even put odds on that bet. He has posted it multiple times and been told it was idiotic each time.
Dumbass ignores the fact that I quoted the essay Hayek wrote.
Conservatives are that stupid.
The quote you reference better describes leftists.
That doesn't mean you read it. Weird you didn't say yes.
Buttplug's probably googling right now for a CliffsNotes version.
turd lies. Never forget that if turd posts it, it is a lie.
turd is a pederast, a TDS-addled ass hole and a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd lies.
I’m guessing Buttplug’s internet searches are of a more……… photographically juvenile content.
Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
You're not Hayek, nor are you a classical liberal and you are a genuine fascist in the actual sense of the word, you mendacious, fifty-centing troll.
And the only guy who's been fellaciating wannabe strongmen (e.g. Trudeau) here is you.
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I've never commented on Trudeau you liar. I don't care about him.
He is your problem.
Hayek said you conservatives exhibit "fondness for authority and its lack of understanding of economic forces."
Hayek got you exactly right.
Dumb faggot is still dumb.
Don't you believe in the great party switch? Lol. Which party is currently expanding government. Who pushed aca. Who is pushing GND. Who implemented mandates?
Do you even try to use critical thought?
He isn’t paid to think.
Which party is currently expanding government.
Both of them, moron.
Both of them?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-plans-to-cut-funding-for-most-government-agencies-160756646.html
Also why do you focus only on the one and not the one pushing much more growth shrike? OSF telling you not to?
You’re about as classically liberal as Mussolini.
Democrats sure do Iike some Italian fascism lately.
That's a lot of gobbledygook to define an oxymoron. A libertarian believes in private property. Community ownership of resources is not private property.
As a point of interest, others have pointed out that there is no such thing as "natural resources". Raw resources only become useful when people apply capital and labor and time to them, at which point they are no longer natural. The closest you can get is wild berries which you can theoretically bite off from the vine -- but even biting is a form of processing. Plants collect sunlight and CO2 and water, which you can call more natural than biting, since biting has other purposes too.
You do realize that you are agreeing with people who call left libertarians as not libertarians on most issues right?
Yes. I consider "left libertarian" to be as nonsensical an oxymoron as "Anarchists' Union".
That's a lot of gobbledygook to define an oxymoron.
Hey, I didn't invent that definition. You asked what they meant and I gave you the textbook answer.
For me the right and left identification are irrelevant and the libertarian philosophy is the bit that's important. Free speech, anti-censorship, freedom of expression, laissez-faire economics, etc.
That said the writers and commenters here who claim left-libertarian affiliation actually have a marked antipathy towards those things. The left bit is far more important to them.
Left libertarianism is many things, but one of the many tenants is belief liberty comes through being granted government benefits. Tony being the prime example pushing for freedom from work. They don't mind a welfare state and will argue no conditions should be placed on these grants. Jeff and Mike argue for liberty only after the morals they hold, such as curing homelessness, is complete. They also condoned actions such as mask and vaccine mandates under a corrupted theory that spreading germs is anti libertarian so government can force others to remove harm from themselves and others even for natural events. They also seek to rationalize loss of rights and freedoms as long as they can claim it was done from good intentions. Lastly they preach idealism such as open borders even in a welfare state without considering costs and externalities to people already here.
Essentially they back the majority of the democrats platform from sophomoric rationalizations. Each of them push ruling from the elite and globalism.
Jeffy has really exposed himself over the last month+.
Covid really gave him an excuse to drop all of his pretenses.
I’m still amazed at anybody saying that nature violates the NAP.
Sarc and Mike both agree jeff is a true libertarian.
It truly is remarkable how much this impotent old cuck we've got in the White House is precisely mirroring all the dreary, desultory, morose, dispiriting failures of the Carter administration in almost every single way imaginable. Those of you on the boards who are too young to remember those years, you'll have to trust me when I tell you they sucked ass just as much as things do right now. And it's annoying as hell for those of us who are old enough to remember to have to relive them all over again.
Wait until you Welchian, Gillespian, Sullumian, Weigelian junior grade Obama mommas see what happens to Sleepy Joe's polling in the weeks ahead, so brace yourselves now, it's not going to be pretty. The best and most useful thing he could possibly do for the entire world would be to resign from office immediately and just keep his worthless old ass parked in Rehoboth Beach permanently for however many years he has left.
I've already had a few anti-Joe folks tell me that they are at least
happy to see Joe is "standing up to Putin with tough sanctions while keeping us out of a shooting war." That's what the media is pushing and that's what will bring Biden's ratings up in the near term. There are eight months until the 2022 elections, so almost anything can happen yet - GOP shoot themselves in the foot, Joe start gibbering at a press conference, Putin assassinated, Taiwan invaded, stock market crash, October surprises of all kinds.
Notorious China catamite Tom Friedman just had an article in the New York Times saying how thankful we should be that Biden is in the Whitehouse instead of Trump. Apparently Biden is doing a great job managing the war and has a plan to make Putin retreat.
By sanctioning...well, basically nothing at all.
I'd call it a nothingburger but that would insult nothingburgers
Biden's biggest fear is that Putin reacts to further sanctions by cutting off the oil to the US in a 'fuck you too move'. You know... the oil that replaces the stuff that Biden has outlawed being produced here in the US and which would shield us from any such retaliation.
If Putin did that, this would be a bitch-slap to Biden and a bigger political nightmare for Democrats than almost anything else because shorting the market even that amount would skyrocket the cost of gas at the pump. Not that Biden cares specifically about whatever that does to the economy as such, but it's a death blow for many more Dems at midterms and makes him a lame-duck president for the next 3 years.
Biden has outlawed being produced here in the US
Wow, you are really an idiot.
U.S. crude oil production is set to exceed pre-pandemic levels next year, driven by a jump in shale output as higher prices incentivize producers to drill more wells to offset decline rates, the Energy Information Administration says. America’s crude oil production is set to average 12.4 million barrels per day (bpd) next year, the EIA said in its January Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO), in which it revealed its first estimates for 2023.
oilprice.com
We laughed at you the other day for using a futures projection and ignoring them rescinded oil and gas leases this month. Yet you persist.
Probably because he's a compulsive liar.
As Sevo often says, it's what he is and what he's here to do.
You're a stupid bitch.
My post was in response to some idiot who said Biden had "outlawed" oil production.
In reality crude oil production is soaring.
12.4 million barrels a day when it was just over 10 mbpd in 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/biden-suspends-oil-and-gas-drilling-in-series-of.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/biden-administration-pausing-new-oil-and-gas-leases-amid-legal-battle-.html
Now fuck off demhag.
Hi crude prices during global instability aren't indicative of increased production and a strong economy, you gibbering moron.
In many cases it indicates the opposite.
It never fails to amaze me how ignorant you are.
"12.4 million barrels per day" is not the price.
Are you that stupid or are you just acting like it?
From the fucking article you quoted, dipshit:
"Just how much U.S. production will grow will depend on how producers react to $80 oil prices and whether they will continue to stick to spending restraint at these high prices."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Oil-Production-To-Hit-New-Record-In-2023.html
Shrike doesn't read his own links.
I'm sorry your narratives are easily dismissed shrike. Blame your handlers.
In his NAMBLA cell?
By the way. You tried this form of idiocy under Obama too. Giving him credit for oil and gas exploration on private and state lands as he rescinded federal leases.
It always amazes me that he tries to constantly equate exploration with production and the economy, despite having his ass handed to him on the subject so many times here.
I guess his boss at the fifty-cent factory is telling him to stick to the talking points regardless.
I've never mentioned exploration, you liar.
The quote in my post from the EIA clearly says "production" is soaring.
I know you can read so you are lying like the liar you are.
No it doesn't. It pushes a projection. One made before biden suspended leases again.
Stick to child porn, buttplug.
You've done nothing but mention exploration for the last four months, you idiot.
What the hell do you think most permits are for and most drilling rigs do?
Service rigs are used to get an operational well on line, not drilling rigs.
This is why I keep telling you you're an idiot for thinking drilling indicates production.
turd lies. Never forget that if turd posts it, it is a lie.
turd is a pederast, a TDS-addled ass hole and a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd lies.
If Biden's approval-disapproval goes up, it's going to take a while. If you look at the composite graph at RCP, the trend this week is sharply in the opposite direction — which, considering how bad things already were for Biden, was a difficult feat in itself!
Let's look at the similarities with Carter:
1- both Biden/Carter elected largely as a reaction to corrupt Republican administrations instead of their own merits
2- both inherited war fatigue
3- both inherited the foundation for inflation - the Whip Inflation Now campaign was begun by Ford and the gold window closed and oil embargos started before Carter was elected. Likewise COVID was mishandled which created a supply shock before Biden was elected.
4- both enjoyed significant employment gains
5- both will be one termers.
"2- both inherited war fatigue"
From his own Obama-Biden administration! Trump didn't start any wars since the last time Biden worked in the Whitehouse, and he actually tried to end some.
Vietnam was a foreign policy disaster that damaged the American psyche. Nixon actually delayed the US departure by six years.
Likewise Iraq was a total disaster and was finally ended by Obama/Biden - although Biden should get no credit.
Afghanistan paled in comparison to Iraq.
Afghanistan paled in comparison to Iraq
Out of Biden and Trump can you tell us which one voted for and supported the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and which one always publicly opposed them?
Golly, if only there was a US president who negotiated a proper withdrawal from Afghanistan and tried to effect it before Biden was even elected.
Oh well, even if there were the Democrats would probably stonewall and not let it happen.
"Iraq was a total disaster and was finally ended by Obama/Biden"
Tell us again about ISIS, Shrike.
So Biden extended our stay in Afghanistan by six months, making him more like Nixon than Carter in that regard.
Goddamn you are the dumbest motherfucker to post here.
"5- both will be one termers."
Why won't Biden serve 2 terms? After all, we know Presidents are more likely to get reelected when the economy is strong. And all the important metrics (rig count, Warren Buffett Net Worth Index) prove we're in the best economy ever.
Then you add his success shutting down the virus, not to mention his foreign policy victories? 400 Electoral Votes minimum for Biden / Harris 2024.
#LibertariansForBiden
If they can keep the price of spittin tobaccy stable, it’s a lock!
This must be the Buttplug imposter. As we all know, there’s no such thing as inflation so for him to even lay the groundwork of that being a possibility is suspect.
Without delving extensively into your myopic political talking point distortions, every president inherits something and actually has to deal with it. Hell, given your assumptions on #1 for example, that should actually make their successors' jobs easier just by contrast.
Let's just add that both torpedoed US fuel sources, simultaneously pushing the US economy towards recession while seriously enriching and thereby emboldening American enemies. This is no small thing. I mean fuck... we are sending Putin $2B/month for oil directly. Whether that is enough to give a cash flow wash to the Ukraine operation is uncertain, but it is one helluva downpayment and keeps the burn rate to a minimum and it weakens us significantly. And it hasn't done one damn thing for reducing cumulative global fossil fuel mining.
This is on a level of stupid like celebrating your successful liver transplant by going on a 7-day bender.
Let's just add that both torpedoed US fuel sources
Pure bullshit.
The US is setting records for oil/gas production and have doubled LNG exports to Europe.
https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/production/#ng-tab
Where is production taking place shrike?
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/biden-administration-pausing-new-oil-and-gas-leases-amid-legal-battle-.html
Exploration IS production!!! t. Shrike
You really think you're tricking people, don't you.
“You really think”
Cite?
turd lies. Never forget that if turd posts it, it is a lie.
turd is a pederast, a TDS-addled ass hole and a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd lies.
Never the lefts fault is it shrike.
"It truly is remarkable how much this impotent old cuck we've got in the White House is precisely mirroring all the dreary, desultory, morose, dispiriting failures of the Carter administration in almost every single way imaginable."
I disagree. At least Carter helped the move towards deregulation of the airlines and interstate trucking. Biden will probably end up being a degree or two WORSE than Carter. (On the other hand, Carter did elevate the Energy and Education commissions to cabinet-level departments, so, it might be a close race to the bottom).
Biden in a single year has been worse than Carter in 4. Of course it might be said Biden still has a chance to turn it around, and...AHAHAHA!
No, the Carter years were much better in several ways. Carter wasn't as arrogant as Biden, nor as smarmy, and while he may have been just as vindictive, he and his confreres did not try to spitefully undo everything the previous administration had done.
Congress was also much better. A lot of the ad hoc commissions Nixon inaugurated delivered their reports during that time, and they recommended deregulation in almost all cases, and guess what? Congress enacted them. Oil was the only major blind spot that got left for Reagan and his Congress to deregulate. Volker was Carter's appointment to the Fed.
Had the report on marijuana not come out too early, while Nixon was still in office, their recommendation to move it out of its temporary placement in schedule 1 of the CSA might've been adopted too. By the time momentum to deregulate cannabis nationally got going again, so did its opposition and managed to derail it. It really was a timing thing that set back that blew the chance that movement had for generations.
Plus, the states at that time were also moving in a good direction. A lot of states legalized hitchhiking, fireworks, home schooling, and other stuff like that. But it was the bipartisan federal deregulation of communication and transportation that had the biggest lasting impact.
"What's good for the goose, is good for the gander".
"Turn-about is fair play".
Smart folks have understood these things for millennia! Yet here we are, in 2022, and conservatives with endless power-pig hard-ons STILL lust after tearing down Section 230, imagining that the "better" version of S-230 will allow them to pussy-grab the libs... And that the libs will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing them right back!
OPEN QUESTIONS FOR ALL ENEMIES OF SECTION 230
The day after tomorrow, you get a jury summons. You will be asked to rule in the following case: A poster posted the following to social media: “Government Almighty LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know!”
This attracted protests from liberals, who thought that they may have detected hints of sarcasm, which was hurtful, and invalidated the personhoods of a few Sensitive Souls. It ALSO attracted protests from conservatives, who were miffed that this was a PARTIAL truth only (thereby being at least partially a lie), with the REAL, full TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH being, “Government Almighty of Der TrumpfenFuhrer ONLY, LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know! Thou shalt have NO Government Almighty without Der TrumpfenFuhrer, for Our TrumpfenFuhrer is a jealous Government Almighty!”
Ministry of Truth, and Ministry of Hurt Baby Feelings, officials were consulted. Now there are charges!
QUESTIONS FOR YOU THE JUROR:
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, true or false?
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, hurtful sarcasm or not?
Will you be utterly delighted to serve on this jury? Keep in mind that OJ Simpson got an 11-month criminal trial! And a 4-month civil trial!
Sqrlsy's trolling extra hard this morning.
MammaryBahnFuhrer is a classic case of one who believes that She (being a Perfect One) can do a PERFECT job of pussy-grabbing the "enemy", who will NEVER pussy-grab right back! So She can't refute what I say, clearly... All who disagree with the lies of The Perfect One are "trolling"! QED, She proclaims! All Hail MammaryBahnFuhrer!
Thanks. Compared to you I am perfect.
Oh Perfect One... I am still awaiting Your Holiness's justification... From ANY Holy Book... Justifying Your identity theft, and Your encouraging people to commit suicide!
Hey, you're the real identity thief here. Do you want me to post some quotes where you pretended to be me?
I posted under my own handle, lying Bitch! Unlike YOU, lying SLAVE of the Evil One! And You KNOW that, Oh Perfect Liar!
(I'm still waiting for Your Perfect Theology of Death-lusting, suicide-luster).
(Originally posted under “SQRLSY One”, who isn’t low enough to deliberately, obviously engage in identity theft)
Mother’s Lament
Bimbosday, 43 Bimbobember 2020 at 6:66 PM
I lust after being abused by power-mad politicians, because I am power-mad myself! And I suffer under the utterly stupid illusion that power-mad politicians will feed me, like a doggy under the table, a wee few, tiny scraps of their vast powers. Biden came up here to Canoodlestanistanistanistanistan to noodle me and my poodle, and give me nookie, with my Wookie and my bookie, but all that Biden would do, is smell my hair! So I lust after Der TrumpfenFuhrer to come up here and grab my pussy good and hard!
So you admit to being an identity thief then.
I "stole" you ID ONLY for those folks UTTERLY STUPID ENOUGH to NOT notice that MY REAL ID was right up top! AND that I used a fake date-stamp!
Bimbosday, 43 Bimbobember 2020 at 6:66 PM
Are You going for the Record of Utterly, Perfectly Stupid, Oh Perfectly Evil and Stupid One?
“ "What's good for the goose, is good for the gander".
"Turn-about is fair play".
Smart folks have understood these things for millennia!”
So conservative backlash towards Big Tech is completely understandable and was totally foreseeable when they decided to unperson and Ministry of Truth peoples covid related posts. Thanks for finally admitting that.
As for 230, in a sane legal system, it would be relatively easy to determine if the case was legitimate or if it should be thrown out.
S-230 DOES make it simple! Did YOU write it? No?! Then go away with your seeking of "deep pockets", parasitical lawyers!
Maybe when YOU get punished for what ***I*** have written, THEN this simple concept might get through your thick head!
"So conservative backlash towards Big Tech is completely understandable ..."
It is understandable by conservatives, whose Precious Baby Feelings have been hurt when their FREE posts got taken down! EVERY dictator who has EVER lived, has felt themselves justified! Putin is justified in invading Ukraine, 'cause the Ukrainians hurt His Precious Baby Feelings by choosing un-Russian-style democracy. Etc. So conservatives lusting after Government Almighty "making the libs cry" by taking control of OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES is "understandable" in that same vein. Right-wing wrong-nut MARXISM is what we're seeing here!
Wait! I finally get it! This is a get-rich-quick scheme by DesigNate!
Tear down Section 230, then DesigNate will post something hurtful, racist, and factually wrong, to Reason.com... Then DesigNate will SUE Reason.com for publishing such a horrible post! Ka-ching ALL of the way to the bank, for DesigNate!!!
Reason isn’t publishing the post if they don’t edit or moderate the post.
If they remove my hypothetical racist and factually wrong but leave Misek’s factually wrong and racist holocaust denial posts, then they are tacitly, if not expressly endorsing his views.
But yeah, you totally figured out my diabolical plan.
Oh and more thing Reason: the year 2005 is calling, and what it's telling you is "One of these days you guys should probably think about updating, fixing, and improving your shitty, broken, out of date web application that was created during me."
Ask for your money back! I bet they'll be glad to refund ALL of your entire $0,000,000.00 payments, no questions asked!!!
Doj decides to sit out an upcoming lawsuit against Pfizer for fraud during covid vaccine trials.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-passes-whistleblower-lawsuit-accusing-pfizer-cutting-corners-covid
Just as well. They've got plenty of fraud issues of their own.
Largely true. I am sure there is an exception somewhere, but none come immediately to mind.
Yes, theoretically there could be exceptions, but practice has long since put the burden of proof on those who claim to know of one, and none have done that yet. Lots of assertions, none of which hold up.
Ukraine's resistance is putting the rest of Europe to shame for abandoning them, the longer they hold out.
The Russian people should take to the streets en masse and demand Putin be replaced by someone sane.
It's interesting the timing and nature of Putin's response to protesters in comparison to that of Trudeau in Canada. Declare an emergency and arrest the dissenters.
Just what do you think comes after Putin?
Someone who'll defend the Russian oligarchs within normal parameters? And not make Russia an economic pariah?
That is probably way too much to hope for.
I don't want to get my hopes up, but they have done really well so far, but I don't think Putin can back down.
If he backs down, the European people may decide the Ukrainians deserve to join NATO--because they admirably fought for their membership.
If he backs down in Ukraine, our NATO allies in the Baltics and Poland may become extremely defiant. There are still a million Russians in the Baltics, and their citizenship status is not rock solid. If Russian non-citizens are . . . um . . . encouraged to emigrate elsewhere, that's not a good look in the wake of Putin backing down from (ostensibly) protecting the Russian minority in the Ukraine.
Meanwhile, from an internal dissent standpoint, like you said, what's the point of a strongman promising to make Russia great again--after he gets his ass kicked in Ukraine and has to leave with his tail between his legs?
I don't think Putin can give up and go home, and he hasn't brought the full force of the Russian military to bear. The best likely outcome may be that it turns into Syria--a long term quagmire with no end in sight.
Putin is 70 years old. Over the next eight to ten years, he may have a heart attack or a stroke. I think that's more likely than another Russian revolution. Even if he leaves by way of a coup, they're likely to wait until he's enfeebled for some reason. I hope the Ukrainians are stunningly victorious, and the Russians are forced to withdraw, but the long slog looks more likely.
I'm curious: would you have cheered for the Syrians and Egyptians during the 6 Day War, or Israel?
I think you're comparing Russia's invasion of Ukraine with the Six-Day War. (As in: Israel invaded all of its neighbors at once just because it is such an aggressor!)
To that I say: BS.
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1497519799391649792?t=oihheSJPbbLyNlDNe5ofGQ&s=19
BREAKING: Ukraine's president says anyone who wants to help defend Ukraine can go to the country and will be given arms
Yea, I'm sure they're kicking ass.
Media reports are totes reliable.
OTOH, free AK-47s.
Yea, but probably tough to get back through customs
Just come through Mexico.
Sort of a reverse “fast and furious.”
Yeah, but made in the Ukraine.
Many (most?) genuinely support the war. And the rest know that protesting will get you arrested (and beaten up). But some brave souls are protesting:
Over 1,700 Russians detained during anti-war demonstrations
A comment for the comment-free Prohibitionist boot licking story:
Her enemy "was not the drink or the drinker, but 'the man who sells,'" Schrad, a Villanova political scientist, writes in Smashing the Liquor Machine: A Global History of Prohibition. "This is
importanta clear sign that I'm a communist who doesn't believe in economic freedom, bodily autonomy, or any kind of freedom, really."FTFY
But good intentions, so……
The Ukrainians handing out AK-47s to anyone and everyone seems to counter some of the basic arguments the gun grabbers use to try and make "assault weapons" illegal in the U.S.
Certainly, the legitimate government of the Ukraine seems to think that AK-47s, etc. can be effective against a modern Russian military--despite helicopters, tanks, missiles, etc.,
They seem to be following the logic of the Second Amendment.
"That army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens.
----Federalist No. 29, Alexander Hamilton
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed29.asp
Looking at Ukraine, it's hard not to notice, right about now, that people bearing arms is necessary to the security of a free State.
Maybe, but when you come down to it, here’s the core problem that is driving gun control advocates: school shootings, mall shootings, crazy people in hotels shooting people at concerts. It IS a real problem.
Maybe nobody would care if we were being invaded, but we are not.
Now, taking away guns won’t solve the problem, and in some circumstances may make it worse. But gun rights advocates should at least acknowledge the reality that it is a real problem.
“But gun rights advocates should at least acknowledge the reality that it is a real problem”
Why?
To persuade people, it helps if one is grounded in truth, facts, and reality. Honesty, that is. "The truth will set you free".
It figures that R Mac can't understand simple, basic truths about persuading people. Just call them names... THAT will persuade them, say the troglodytes!
R Mac, font of such deep, meaningful debating points as “Caw caw!” And calling me “Dee”.
“Caw caw!” ... That's the sound of the crows... A workin' on the CHAIN GANG!!! The murder of crows... And a murderous bunch they are!
It could just as easily be "bark-bark" or "howl-howl"... Beasts saying "listen to MEEE, listen to US!!! 'Cause we've got the numbers! My tribe, right or wrong!"
All is for the Hive!!! All Hail the Hive! (And then they howl about collectivism and Marxism.)
Your argument wasn't deep. It was facile and child like. "Something bad happened, we must stop everybody not the agent of that bad thing." Authoritarian thinking.
I see! So you’re saying that the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids have deployed booger-beams (Those unspeakable BASTARDS) and have hijacked your tinfoil hat! You have my sympathies, but no more… I have no good advice for you, sorry! Other victims of the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids that I have known? They all ended up on Skid Row, and I could NOT help them!
I bet you typed that one-handed and squirted right in your eye when you got to "skid row".
But you really do squawk like a bird Dee. No deep thinking required to point that out.
And I asked a simple question about an assertion you made that I’m required to do something to advocate for my rights.
Which you chose to ignore, and responded to the shit eater instead.
WHY do you drink the blood of the young Christian children, R Mac? WHY, Santa, WHY!
You’re such a poor little bitch,
aren’t you mike?
That’s all the response you deserved for your assertion.
Is she still pretending to be a libertarian?
She’s claiming that gun rights activists are somehow responsible for security at schools and malls.
"She’s claiming that gun rights activists are somehow responsible for security at schools and malls.
Sounds like something a progressive troll would say.
Is R Mac trying to say I said, “She’s claiming that gun rights activists are somehow responsible for security at schools and malls.”
I didn’t say anything even remotely like that.
Ya did.
“ Maybe, but when you come down to it, here’s the core problem that is driving gun control advocates: school shootings, mall shootings, crazy people in hotels shooting people at concerts. It IS a real problem.
But gun rights advocates should at least acknowledge the reality that it is a real problem.”
These imply that something should be done about it. Which is the argument the gun grabbers always try to make. If you don’t want to get smeared with that shit sandwhich, maybe don’t regurgitate their talking points.
Are you still trying to insult me by calling me a female? That says some really awful things about your attitude toward women, and nothing about me.
It says nothing about his views on women. It stems from you being as annoying as Dee from Always Sunny. You've been told this. Stop lying.
Why are you leftists such whiny bitches always playing a victim?
Back before the mute feature, I linked to the YouTube video of Dee being called bird, and she said she wouldn’t click on some random link I posted.
It’s a fucking YouTube video, how bad could it be?
He is crying about having to watch clips below. It is hilarious.
She really cracks my ass up.
It’s their default position because they’re emotionally the same as my 10 year old.
Poor Dee.
Are you on your period mike?
So end rights for the 99.9999% due to the actions of the 0.0001%
Is she an anti-gun rights libertarian?!
Remove the libertarian qualifier and yes.
There was nothing against gun rights in what I wrote.
People can read what you wrote dee.
here’s the core problem that is driving gun control advocates: school shootings, mall shootings, crazy people in hotels shooting people at concerts. It IS a real problem.
It is a minor problem hyped by the media to get fainting nannies like yourself worked up.
And a collectivist to boot.
Of course it's a real problem, but an intractable one, like respiratory viruses.
You are probably right about that. My point is that gun control advocates are concerned about a REAL problem, even if their ideas for solving the problem won’t work.
No, it’s really not.
But then, your grasp on how much of a “real problem” lots of things are is very suspect.
Regulating the exception never works out.
For an example see crazy shoe bomber on plane.
Step one - everyone has to take off shoes
Step two - TSA uses shoe power to intimidate and or punish those who do not abide.
Step Three - Gov designs program, that costs a person money to join, to bypass step one and two with a special designation.
Step Four - Gov allows a private version of their bypass program to operate in parallel with their model with a payback to Gov.
Step five - Inconvenience, added expense and more gov jobs created that never go away.
You are probably right, but do you acknowledge that it is a _real_ problem?
You are probably right, but do you acknowledge that it is a _real_ problem?
It's a real problem when it happens. The focus on gun control as a solution is a focus in the wrong direction. If a person wants that level of attention they will find a source for weapons. Taking the source away from others doesn't solve the issue. Making it a lawsuit friendly exercise against the manufacturer is even worse.
For the school age kids I would venture that the prescribed drug consumption that is rampant in public schools is a far more likely suspect. Couple that with an isolated kid that is having side effects that they don't understand, and the general disassociation with violence that is so prevalent in their lives (TV, Vid games) and the exception is bound to reveal itself in a drug induced, violent manifestation.
For the Vegas hotel room shooter, that guy and others like them are either crazy or suicidal. The behavior of either of those conditions can also lead to exceptional, violent events.
A problem, perceived incorrectly, is not solvable no matter how much regulation is put in place.
Three different attempts, Reason won’t let me post to a link, even without it being a link.
Do a search for “occupy Democrats logic gun rights tweets.” They clowned themselves pretty well.
Occupy Democrats seem to beclown themselves on all sorts of issues!
Two tweets in particular have them calling themselves a special breed of stupid.
The weapons being handed out in Ukraine are actual assault weapons and not the fake kind the left vilifies.
You can buy an AK-47 in the U.S. It doesn't come with full auto out of the box. And that argument in the Federalist was about the training. We still teach soldiers in boot camp how to shoot and how to take care of their weapons. Knowing all that stuff because you used the weapon recreationally is still a big advantage--if there's still a difference between regular army and irregulars. American irregulars are a lot less irregular than others if they've been shooting an AR-15 since they were kids.
Probably, but not in their PR photos:
https://twitter.com/backwoodsbob1/status/1497598349524021248?t=K4-hAyfP7mlCaLZFQ3Jqig&s=19
Let me introduce you to Miss Ukraine Anastasiia Lenna. Ukraine has 36,000 women serving in the military. The most women of any military. #UkraineWar #UkraineUnderAttack
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Clicked and was NOT disappointed. Thanks, Nardz!
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1497625166863642637?t=ReqGDfpSZiH8n_6VmdzV9Q&s=19
There are reports suggesting the incident which absolutely lit up social media -- Ukrainian soldiers telling a Russian warship to "Fuck off" and then being killed -- were false, and the soldiers surrendered. Should be obvious that omni-directional propaganda right now is extreme
Would love to know how these journalists sitting in the US somewhere could've possibly confirmed the factual veracity of anything happening on Snake Island in the Black Sea during heated fighting
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https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1497589103616937994?t=gnpHZ2odITrx0mjk_UZO1g&s=19
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence is CONFIRMING that the garrison of Snake Island is ALIVE and has surrendered to Russian troops
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Oh well, it was a great story.
Now that's how you do proper propaganda, Justin and Vladimir. You don't just scream racist at them, and you don't call them Nazi when they're Jewish.
It's literally ALL propaganda.
Every big pro Ukrainian story coming out keeps being revealed to be false or completely fabricated.
-Russian APC runs over car: false, it was a Ukrainian APC that lost control
-ghost of kyiv: false, from flight simulator
-martyrs of Snake Island: false, they surrendered
So Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass, but they're arming civilians, prohibiting males from leaving, begging for foreign intervention, asking for foreign civilians to come fight, and accusing Russia of genocide? Those actions don't really match the story being told.
When the narrative is completely one sided - I haven't seen much of anything anywhere that even comes from a Russian perspective, let alone what one could call propaganda - and is composed of elements that keep turning out to be false, doesn't that make you suspicious?
All those photos of Zelensky in kit as he stands his ground as the capital's under assault?
https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status/1497646275164090384?t=VF5V_XUn5cwEIp2_lanuNA&s=19
US + NATO figures were posting a bunch of pictures of Zelensky out in kit bravely fighting off the Russian advance personally. Problem is, the photos were from last April.
He’s reportedly not even in Kiev, but rather Lviv.
Well then they're doing a great job. It's war, so good for them. Disinfo against an adversary is fine in a hot war against another nation state.
It's when leaders like Biden and Trudeau are gaslighting and oppressing their own citizens that I have a problem with it.
That's kinda my point: that's what they're doing. This is disinfo aimed at us more than anyone.
When invasion was announced at the beginning of the week, 74% of those polled opposed major involvement from the US.
Now we have elected officials calling for No Fly Zones, more weapons (and money) for Ukraine, more confrontational action against Russia. Media 100% saying the same things in the same voice.
I'm not looking forward to the next polls about how involved, and how aggressive, people think the US should be.
The last time the media and political messaging was this coordinated and unanimous was February/March 2020 when they were selling covid.
Think about ir.
That's the difference. I've got no problem with Ukrainians trying to propagandize us, given the sticky situation they're in. Or the Russians for that matter. Go hard boys.
I do have a problem with our politicians and media doing it to us however. There's a big difference in motives.
Speaking of hate speech, neocon/imperialist Hillary Clinton goes beyond "Republicans pounce" or "democracy is dangling by a thread" to accuse Republicans of helping Putin and Xi:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/republicans-ukraine-putin-xi-trump-democracy/622898/
Republican leaders are abandoning core tenets of American democracy even as the stakes in the global contest between democracy and autocracy are clearer and higher than at any time since the end of the Cold War. They are defending coup-plotters and curbing voting rights...
Yeah, the people in charge of prosecuting mostly peaceful protestors and trying to ensure that elections are easily hacked are the ones defending democracy and civil liberties....
Not all Republicans, but let’s acknowledge things Republicans like Trump and Tucker Carlson have been saying this week.
Also, evidence of hacked elections please.
What did they say Mike. Specifics. And in context.
Stfu cunt.
It’s as if the whole “the Russians stole the election!” conspiracy theory never even happened l
I think hypocrisy is Mike's sexual fetish.
Imagine thinking Republicans are the power mad tin pot dictators after the last two years.
"Republican leaders are abandoning core tenets of American democracy even as the stakes in the global contest between democracy and autocracy are clearer and higher than at any time since the end of the Cold War."
----Hillary Clinton
She's always been a neocon. Her criticism of George W. Bush was mostly about how he wasn't going far enough. She lost to Obama because he wasn't supposed to be a neocon, and she clearly was.
Meanwhile, the Reason Putin hated Hillary was because of her incompetent neocon behavior towards him and his election. Like a typical cancel culture progressive, she cared more about whether Putin recognized gay marriage in Moscow rather whether he'd work with them to destroy ISIS in Syria. Caring more about American interests was what Trump was talking about when he said, "America first".
Want to know when Putin really started thinking that the U.S. was making him a pariah?
Take a look at the consensus in the following links.
"Why Putin hates Hillary"
----Politico, July 25, 2016
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
"Why Vladimir Putin Hates Hillary Clinton"
"For one, she compared him to Hitler and said he might not have a soul."
----NBC News, July 26, 2016
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-putin-hates-hillary-clinton-n617236
This was our Secretary of State in charge of American diplomacy!
Such an incompetent Secretary of State.
"Vladimir Putin's Bad Blood With Hillary Clinton"
----Time
https://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/
https://twitter.com/JohnSte65242351/status/1497634448736669707?t=EWRAuZhBo90HjGJjkOPi2w&s=19
Where’s the misinforms tags when you need them
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It's incredible how you can get liberals to devote their entire lives to a cause they hadn't even previously spent a single second thinking about as long as you convince them this is the newest and best way to signal that they are on The Good People team.
Great tweet
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1497630985999077376?t=QwQeqfW0PRbLfm3I_EU6jQ&s=19
To understand how war propaganda functions and thus to know how it manipulates you, you probably have to have lived through it as an engaged adult. Millions of Americans (and Russians) never have. Last comparable moment in US was 2001-3: Good v. Evil, Freedom v. Mad Despots, etc.
No matter your views, no propaganda is as potent and difficult to resist as war propaganda. The more complete the societal consensus, the less room for questioning, the harder it becomes. It becomes a closed system. It targets our deepest emotions and instincts. Good thread:
https://twitter.com/TuckerMax/status/1497609615151800323?t=CwvyYNwsGsLsc2NWsWQlGQ&s=19
A lot of people asked me why I posted about ignoring the Ukrainian/Russian war.
I don't know war, but I do know media, and everything about how the war is being covered is sending up major red flags to me.
Two quick examples:
1. Hero stories popup immediately, that end up not being true.
The 13 guards telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off (turns out they surrendered), the "Ghost of Kyiv" (doesn't seem to be true), the sunflower seed story, etc...
MOST telling, media runs them uncritically.
2. The biggest weird thing to me: no one stopped buying oil/gas from Russia.
Germany said they will keep buying.
US State Dept went so far as to say, EXPLICITLY, that sanctions are designed to NOT stop the flow of gas.
What? Those exports are 30% of the Russian economy.
I have no doubt that real Ukrainians civilians are dying and suffering on the ground, and that sucks.
But do these actions seem like the actions of warring states?
No.
In the American media, it seems like a spectacle put on to either distract or "manufacture consent."
I'm not going to fall for it.
The primary power media--and it's masters--have over us is our attention.
I choose to not give it to them (yes trolls, aside from writing this, lol).
Today I'm feeding my cows, going to BJJ and being with my family.
For the same conclusion from an actual military combat vet, see this thread:
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And for those who want proof the Snake Island soldiers surrendered, the UK ministry of defense seems to even admit it:
[Link]
When former CIA dudes tell you things are weird, man...shit is WEIRD:
[Link]
Former Ukrainian president says the "Ghost of Kyiv" is real, and posted a picture:
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2022/02/26/6219757d22601d2e038b45bf.html
Supposedly shot down 6 Russian planes in 30 hours, out of 30 Russian aircraft lost already (incluing helicopters and transports).
Best case scenario the Ukrainians continue to hold out and the invasion becomes a costly blunder by Putin, and his people and officers turn on him.
Hate to break it to you...
Russia's invasion not going as planned so far:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10554269/Ukraine-DESTROYS-Russian-convoy-Zelenskys-troops-derail-Kremlin-push-Kyiv.html
Is the deep state career bureaucrat who lists pronouns in his bio beyond question?
If this story is 100% accurate, does that make Ukrainian actions consistent with the narrative?
https://twitter.com/CBCOttawa/status/1497506160664006656?t=yD1KSb2_Zk1B1ccEJXUt8Q&s=19
The trucks have left Ottawa, but 'phantom honking' lingers for many downtown
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Were-cars!
Nice
The side effect of long honking.
Thank god the nightmare is over, and the carnage* has ended.
*I assume thousands died, since one rouge SUV killed 5 in Wisconsin, and those evil Canadian trucks were much bigger.
FoxNews just had an interview with "the father of a Russian POW"
They muted the live audio and played only the (British) translator over the screen.
I noticed that yesterday in another interview. Don’t remember who it was, just found it odd.
It's suspicious.
Usually broadcasts play the live audio with a translator talking over it.
Potential problem is: if they play the live audio, someone fluent in both languages would notice if the translation doesn't match.
I've noticed all the Ukrainians they interview speak English, which makes sense. Just interesting that apparently there are no relevant Ukrainians who don't speak English, nor relevant Russians who do.
Interesting. I’ll definitely keep looking for that.
Or if they play the live audio, the interviewee might be identified by his voice and arrested by the successor to the KGB.
Why Hate Speech Laws Backfire
Now do blocking and screening of offensive speech laws.
https://twitter.com/wakeup2real/status/1497639133816238090?t=yAy3vXPTcQhsT9Ia_IiozA&s=19
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Me genocide you? YOU genocide ME!
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1497648717624664067?t=udq4pfgpQh02jjtpN6tbvQ&s=19
JUST IN - Ukraine's Zelensky asks #UN to recognize Putin's actions as genocide and to strip Russia's right to vote in the Security Council.
An unprovoked invasion/act of aggression doesn't need to be genocide to be a war crime.
If Luhansk and Donetsk seceded from Ukraine and invited Russian troops in for defense, that is within their rights and not an act of agression. Russian forces attacking Kiev and other Ukrainian cities is an unprovoked attack and Putin should be facing criminal charges at the World Court.
Ok.
"An unprovoked invasion"
I've noticed this term started being used a lot, like it's a formula. Very consistent messaging being put out. The pros always make sure to slide it in there. Never just "invasion" or "aggressive invasion" or "uncalled for invasion" or "unjustifiable invasion" or any other myriad ways of saying the same thing.
Russian forces attacking Kiev
Without commenting on the substance of your comment, I would like to personally thank you for holding the line on Kiev, and not giving into the shallow media group-think, Kyiv. I and Peter Hitchens thank you.
I guess … this … is … important?
It’s actually Київ, if you want to get anal about it. Anything else is a translation. And “Kyiv” is a more accurate translation than “Kiev”.
Caw aktually caw!
Poor dee.
What's the capitol of Russia?
What's the capitol of the Czech Republic?
Canceled.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1497649450919018498?t=7troFVfaINtWGArk2b4usg&s=19
JUST IN - Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich gives up stewardship of #Chelsea football team, the club announces.
https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status/1497646275164090384?t=LKz63_gTmC5uZkHBLuhTmA&s=19
US + NATO figures were posting a bunch of pictures of Zelensky out in kit bravely fighting off the Russian advance personally. Problem is, the photos were from last April.
[Link]
Why waste time and energy debating it when you can just ban it?
Today's front page, above-the-fold story in the local rag:
Yeah, uh huh. Ok.
Sound the alarm!!!
Great interview with Konstantin Krisin who's been very on point during this Ukraine situation.
https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1497604391360253963?t=Wrs45BJglGeWSDS0WWkRRQ&s=19
There is a narrative emerging about people like me who predicted the Russian invasion and the broader geopolitical reordering we are now seeing.
It claims that we didn't know what was coming, we're just using this as an opportunity to mock and criticise the things we always hated like wokeness, the re-racialisation of society etc.
Sadly, this is not true.
I have been predicting all of this for years - see below the preface I wrote for my upcoming book more than a year ago. Friends advised me against opening the book with this as it was "melodramatic". I was wrong to heed their advice:
"The Gur Emir Mausoleum stands in the heart of the ancient city of Samarkand in modern-day Uzbekistan.
The magnificent structure, known colloquially as the Tomb of the Commander, was built to preserve the remains of Tamerlane, a terrifying conqueror who modelled himself on Genghis Khan.
His tombstone is inscribed with the words “When I Rise From the Dead, the Whole World Shall Tremble”.
On June 21, 1941, Soviet anthropologists led by Mikhail Gerasimov opened the tomb on the orders of Joseph Stalin and began exhuming Tamerlane’s body.
As the scent of frankincense, rose, camphor and resin filled the air, Gerasimov and his team discovered an additional inscription inside the casket: “Whoever Disturbs My Tomb Will Unleash an Invader More Terrible Than I”.
The following morning, Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union.
The history of humanity is a series of unopened tombs, which hold not only the stories of our past but also stark warnings about our future.
As I write this in early 2021, the West is suffering from a global pandemic.
COVID-19, a virus of the body, has brought devastation to millions of people around the world and forced our governments into unprecedented measures whose consequences will become apparent in the years to come.
The virus and our zealous response have ravaged the global economy, deprived us of our civil liberties and caused untold damage in every area of our lives.
But another devastating epidemic has spread like wildfire through the Western world, particularly the Anglosphere, and shows no signs of abating. Unlike COVID, this is a virus of the mind.
If you are fortunate enough to have avoided Twitter, do not work in a progressive industry and are not a recent graduate, your awareness of this virus may be peripheral. You may not yet be familiar with terms like “Critical Race Theory”, “Social Justice” and “Wokeness”.
I envy you.
But even so, if you’re reading this book you’ve likely spotted that the world around us is changing at unprecedented speed.
You may have noticed a dramatic change in tone in our public discourse.
Nearly two-thirds of Americans now say that they fear expressing their political views, including a majority of Democrats (52%), Independents (59%) and Republicans (77%).
In Britain, nearly half of us feel less free to speak our minds, while only 20 per cent feel more free to do so than we did a few years ago.
Perhaps you’ve watched in confusion as men and women have been positioned not as partners but opponents in some kind of “Battle of the Sexes”.
It may have struck you that our conversations about race have become a way to separate us rather than bring us together.
You may have watched in confusion as statues of historical figures were defaced or torn down by angry mobs. Perhaps your employer brought in someone to explain that being white imbues you with some sort of original sin or that being black or brown makes you a victim of life.
You may even have been on the right side of these issues for years.
Perhaps you thought that only bigots worry about expressing their problematic beliefs, that men are toxic and white people should atone for the terrible crimes of their ancestors and their inherited privileges in society.
You may have spent your life supporting progressive causes, giving money to charities for disadvantaged groups and being on the “right side of history”. And yet, as J.K. Rowling discovered, your belief in basic biology may be your undoing nonetheless.
Even if you are fortunate enough to have avoided direct contact with these issues, you may have noticed an odd feeling. What it is you can’t explain and, for now, it is relatively easy to ignore.
As you busy yourself with daily life, you reassure yourself that things can only get better.
And yet, in those rare moments of reflection, you cannot help feeling a sense of foreboding.
It is hard to put into words how you know this but someone somewhere has opened another cursed tomb.
The initial phases of Operation Barbarossa, Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union, which began on June 22, 1941, were a huge success.
German armoured formations which had blitzkrieged their way through France, Belgium and the Netherlands in 1940 were now speeding towards Moscow, crushing disorganised Soviet resistance as they went.
My great-grandfather, who had just returned home from the Winter War with Finland, was thrown into the meat grinder of the Eastern Front along with millions of others to stop the German advance. Like him, most of them never returned.
If you’ve ever travelled from Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport into the city, you may have noticed three odd-looking metal structures along the road. These anti-tank obstacles mark how close the enemy came to taking the city.
Across the entire front, the Soviet Union fought for its survival. Nowhere was the war more intense than at Stalingrad.
Fierce fighting in the city went on for months, with Stalin sacrificing more and more men and materiel in recognition of a simple fact: retreat was no longer an option.
As the Battle of Stalingrad hung in the balance, on December 20, 1942, the body of Tamerlane was returned to his tomb and given a full Islamic burial.
Within days, the Soviet Union mounted a successful counterattack at Stalingrad and went on an offensive that would not stop until it reached Berlin, saving the world from Nazi domination.
Today, the fate of Western civilization hangs in the balance once again. The tomb of discord and division has been forced open by a small group of ideological zealots. Retreat is no longer an option. Either we bury the hatchet and heal or the whole world shall tremble once more.
Brief interview clip with Dr. Joseph Ladapo on how the CDC failed us utterly by using fear instead of data.
CDC recommends longer span between vaccine doses to reduce risks of myocarditis. Something Walensky said wasn't happening.
Everything they ban someone for becomes common wisdom six months later.
A new study has just been published demonstrating that the Pfizer mRNA injection IS making changes to DNA. If true, then this is enourmous.
I'll add a link when I get home.
Does CNBC flip your skirt more than NBC?
It has been known for some time that there is a myocarditis risk for young men and the vaccines, the CDC has known it, but rochelle walensky went on national television and said "we haven't seen it [myocarditis] yet."
Covered by Vinay Prasad in an earlier *gasp* video (and usually an accompanying substack.
Nuremberg trial for these people is almost too good for them.
Here's the study I mentioned.
https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm
It turns out the RNA from Pfizer vaccine is rapidly reverse transcribed into DNA in as fast as 6 hours! But don't worry, it's in vitro, I'm sure in vivo Pfizer must have studied it and everything's just fine... right?
Remember all those articles making fun of the rubes for worrying that an mRNA vaccine would transcribe itself onto DNA as mRNA is wont to do?
Holy shit.
It’s interesting that people with fringe views often present their evidence and theories in videos, requiring anyone who wants to dispute them to use up valuable time to find out what their evidence and theories are, rather than presenting text, which can be analyzed much faster.
I suspect it is a defense mechanism when one realizes at some deep level that one’s ideas are fringe and probably not on solid ground, so one really doesn’t want to invite critique.
Most of the videos you cry about are under 30s long.
You want to be told what narrative you should take instead of watching primary evidence.
So you want to be told what to think rather than waste two minutes watching the actual video evidence yourself.
You're amazingly fucking stupid.
That's NBC news, brought to you by Pfizer. I'm posting mainstream links. Now, if we want to classify NBC in the same category as Alex Jones, then we may have something to discuss.
Evidence is evidence, if it comes in the unfortunate format of a video, then I can't help you. I think the real issue here is you can't take an L on this one and are just going to resist and push back on anything. You lost. It's time to admit it gracefully.
People like Mike can’t take the L. Taking the L means admitting his ideological opponents could have been right, and if they were right about this, what else could they be right about?
I didn’t lose anything. I commented on the problem of posting videos as a way of presenting evidence in a debate.
You squawked like a bird is what you did.
Anyway, do you have a text cite rather than a video? Goes for any of the last three comments you posted.
Fuck off bird.
Come on rmac, find a daily kos narrative he can read instead of challenging his own views.
No.
Watch the fucking video and make up your own mind.
The video is my cite. However, to accommodate you in your downward spiral, I provided both the video and the text cite for you. If that makes the landing any softer.
Where is this text cite?
And if they do this you'll be unvaccinated for 2 1/2 months after you start vaccination!
Yes, social media is todays town square for free speech.
If there was one unambiguous form of speech that was responsible for all corruption, all conflict and had no redeeming qualities, would you support criminalizing it?
Criminalize lying.
Does criminalizing gun crime violate 2a? Neither does criminalizing lying violate 1a.
"...Criminalize lying..."
Nazi shitbag, you'd never get out of jail.
The best way to deal with hate speech is to round up all the offenders and send them to the gas chambers. Then, fascism will finally be over.
https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/
The U.S. Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program collaborates with partner countries to counter the threat of outbreaks (deliberate, accidental, or natural) of the world’s most dangerous infectious diseases.
Interesting to learn how old Germany's hate speech laws are. What previous history impelled them to adopt those a century ago? Were they even older than that?
In the show 1883, when a wagon train of German immigrants on the Oregon trail were about to cross a river, they were asked if they could swim. They explained that it was illegal to swim where they came from in Germany. They said that when people drowned in the river, the authorities would whip their dead bodies for having broken the law against swimming. I had to look that up to see if that was true, and I came across this--about how the authorities decided to deal with too many people drowning:
"You might think that the only sensible countermeasure against drowning would be to teach people how to swim. But in the 1530s, German schools and universities decided that the best remedy would be a total ban on swimming, which, in the university town of Ingolstadt on the Danube, was punishable by the whipping of the drowned offender before burial."
----History Today
https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/how-europe-learnt-swim
My comparative politics professor taught us this adage as a rule of thumb for the basic assumptions about the law. It went something like this:
"In the United States, if it isn't illegal, it's legal. In Germany, if it isn't legal, it's illegal. In Russia, even if it is legal, it's illegal. And in France, even if it's illegal, it's legal."
I know that that the penalties for doing all sorts of basic things were prohibited by the Calvinists, especially, before, during, and after the Thirty Years War, and it wouldn't surprise me if the speech laws went back to the areas the Calvinists dominated in the Holy Roman Empire.
"If they condemned celibacy in the priests, and opened the gates of the convents, it was only to turn all society into a convent. Shows and entertainments were expressly forbidden by their religion; and for more than two hundred years there was not a single musical instrument allowed in the city of Geneva."
----Voltaire
The Calvinists believed in predestination, like most Sunni Muslims do, and when you believe in predestination, you come to different conclusions about things. Most Christians believe in free will--that God punishes you for the things you choose to do. They believe that by choosing to break the law is going against God's will. People who believe in predestination don't see it that way. They believe that going against God's will is impossible, and the reason you broke God's law is because God has rejected you.
When a suicide bomber yells "Allah Akbar" ("God is great") before blowing himself up and killing a bunch of people, he really is claiming that those "innocent" people dying is God's will--or God wouldn't let him kill those people in his name. And when a Calvinist is whipping your dead body for swimming or condemning you to horrific punishments for owning a violin or speaking your mind, they're doing more or less the same thing. God save us all from people who are absolutely sure of God's will.
https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1497648191881326593?t=ch5AS5Whlg1LQ5yuFd_-hA&s=19
The liberal impulse to “do something” is responsible for far more human misery today than anything nature could inflict on her own.
So what's the libertarian, open borders folk's take on Zelensky barring males 18-60 from leaving the country?
Or are we not allowed to talk about that because we have to froth at the mouth about how this is totes Good vs Evil, and way more important that Ukrainians fight for their right to be ruled by a corrupt government loyal to the EU/WEF than that we do anything to save ourselves from the growing totalitarianism of our own corrupt government?
Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest rights of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life itself, not when the safety of their country and its liberties may demand the sacrifice, but whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it?
- Daniel Webster
That being said, it's Ukraine, not Ourkraine, and they can do what they want.
Borders are like masks, they only matter in one direction, like the boy band.
I remember seeing a poll years ago, where they asked high school students about how the American press operated. A large number (without prompting?) thought that news had to be approved by the government before publication. It stuck in my mind because I thought, "Oh shit, these kids are pretty ignorant."
Now I think, "Oh shit, free speech will be gone in my lifetime."
Dr Vinay Prasad comes very, very close to suggesting a kind of COVID Nuremberg trial for Public Health officials.
For Mike Laurusen who apparently has more time to stop and read a link than listen to a video while getting on with his life...
Yes, I do. I can typically read an article much faster. Also, I am often in a room where I cannot sit and watch a video without disturbing others.
Earbuds are a thing.
However, mixing media is a different issue. If I'm reading, I'm in a situation where I can read, but often I cannot watch a video. If I'm listening to videos or podcasts (such as while walking the dogs), then I typically cannot read.
Obviously here, we are reading, so text sources are far more convenient. I know it isn't always possible to find a source in the same style, but I can at least understand the sentiment.
Anyway, I just don’t get you. Putin is threatening nuclear war this morning, and you are obsessed about this.
Do you believe squawking will keep him from using nukes, Dee?
Your video link doesn’t work. You think I have time to read something? Geesh.
https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1497698906322313222?t=Z9rdc-FgKk6r8j1E-txkgA&s=19
While the world focuses on Ukraine, the WHO has quietly convened to push for a global pandemic treaty which would bind member nations to a coordinated response to the “next pandemic” and lay the foundation for an international vaccine pass system.
[Link]
Could our response have been any MORE coordinated? We've been goose-stepping our way through a disease with a >99% survivability. New York Schools just lifted their outdoor masking requirements for children for fuck sakes. OUTDOOR!
Sure, it could be codified in permanent law through treaty I guess.
Having to declare states of emergency and allowing people to go to court is just too much to ask of our beneficent masters.
Sloppy Pullout?
or
Sloppy Putin?
Most conflicts aren't good vs evil, or right vs wrong. Each side has reasons for what they do. Both sides can be right & still go to war. Someone who is right & good can still do shitty things, even if the other party is right as well.
Look at a map of NATO expansion like it's a chess board.
NATO+Ukraine=checkmate
We're seeing Covid levels of propaganda, and it's all aimed at getting public support for NATO to go to actual war...
This would have some pretty massive implications:
https://twitter.com/SenBillCassidy/status/1497574727375896581?t=-KVZ6Hrc23nMACyaIS0jjQ&s=19
We are all Ukrainians now.
https://twitter.com/UpperLowerClass/status/1497755568122986497?t=_AJkJT1pUUjFEPsi0UDqkg&s=19
We've arrived at "omg just let people enjoy things" but for war propaganda
Hate speech laws don't backfire.
They undermine the culture of free speech and replaces it with a culture that self-censors and second guesses itself into silence at every social and political overreach of the elite.
If you go back and read the early versions of Reason, you'll see articles that would have the current writers screeching 'fascist!'
People who thought that hate speech laws were about 'law' are fools.