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What We Saw at the Unite the Right II Protest

No more than 30 far right rally goers showed up at what turned into a gathering of the far left.

So what happened at Unite the Right II?

The organizer's permit application stated that about 400 attendees would gather outside the White House to commemorate last year's rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. The estimate was later downgraded to about 200, but by the time the rain started falling on Lafayette Square, it was clear that fewer than 30 were showing up amid a significant presence of cops and counterprotesters. Most of downtown Washington, D.C., was shutdown.

Bands of black clad Antifa members came with shields, helmets, and gas masks, and police surrounded far right protesters to protect them from violence. Most counterprotesters never laid eyes on anyone from the group they came to stand against.

For more coverage from the "Unite the Right II" rally, click here.

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  • Hamster of Doom||

    A society with a representative government and individual rights is not a place one expects to find dissent and activism scored based on the size of their collective.

    Maybe it matters even if it's only one dude. Just throwing that out there.

  • Just Say'n||

    A show of numbers is an implied threat of force. The more people you can gather to protest, the more power you have.

  • NoVaNick||

    Yes-and the neo-nazis/white nationalists numbers have always been much smaller at these things than the counter protestors, including in C-ville last year. Despite this, the media wants us to believe that they are behind every tree and lamppost, waiting for a dog whistle from Trump to attack.

  • Just Say'n||

    Maybe they are smaller, maybe their followers are less fervent than it is presumed, or maybe they just know that it's not smart to voice such opinions publicly.

    I don't know which one it is, but all of these possible explanations suggest that they are more impotent than Bob Dole

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    Hey, Bob Dole can still get it up...with Viagra™!

  • mtrueman||

    Being smaller is definitely a disadvantage to fascist organizers. I suggest they escalate the violence of their actions, and stick with night rallies as their masters did. This will attract the necessary useful idiots.

  • Mark22||

    Yes-and the neo-nazis/white nationalists numbers have always been much smaller at these things than the counter protestors,

    Protestor, counter prostestor, what's the difference? Fascists and antifascists are politically and ideologically very close anyway.

  • Idle Hands||

    I try and protest the the social fascism of recycling my trash everyday maybe some prominent media personality should give me a long form interview. I'm sure there are 100's of people just like me.

  • mtrueman||

    I bet you've never tried running over a counter-protestor.

  • UltraModerate||

    Um, no. On the contrary, a society with a representative government is EXACTLY the place where the size of the collective matters most. In fact, that's sort of the definition.

  • Hamster of Doom||

    I disagree. And if i had a representative, maybe that would matter. Ba-dum-TISH.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Having seen the impact of these twenty or so Nazis I have decided to mobilize my FFXIV clan. There are 40 of us, which seems to be enough to overthrow DC entirely.

  • Just Say'n||

    I got some bad news for you: twenty of those guys in your clan are Nazis and therefore have bigger cup sizes than Kate Upton

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger|| when you say cup, are you referring to their bra cups or to their jockstraps? Because if it's the latter, I'm totally interested.

  • Just Say'n||

    I don't think Upton is renowned for her well endowed...jock strap

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    You're obviously looking at different pictures than I am.

  • Just Say'n||

    Obviously. But, I need pics just to be sure

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    You're mixing your plotline with Yellow Tony.

  • Brandybuck||

    Am reminded of Robert Welch's claim that only one million members in the John Birch Society would be enough to change the country. I'm not sure if the JBS ever reached that goal. But interesting to compare that to only THIRTY people at the Save the Right Rally. If JBS couldn't do it with actual ideology on their side (liberally [sic] seasoned with conspiracy mongering) then what hope in hell does Nazis-R-Us have?

    I think the Westboro Baptist Church and get more members to show up. Sheesh.

    p.s. My intent is not to imply the JBS is equivalent to those neo-Nazis. They are most definitely not.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    All lunatic fringe groups are special in their own way.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    it was clear that fewer than 30 were showing up amid a significant presence of cops and counterprotesters. Most of downtown Washington, D.C., was shutdown.


  • loveconstitution1789||

    I know. Its like the government wanted Lefties beating on Lefties so some martial law could be declared.

    The media seems disappointed no Civil War II kicked off.

  • DarrenM||

    I think the media secretly long for the 60's with the police using water cannons and tear gas on protesters, or at least something equally sensational. They just haven't quite figured out how to bring this about.

  • vek||

    I'd love to watch water cannons being used on ANTIFA... It's not like they wouldn't have it coming after all the shit they've done.

  • Idle Hands||

    Wtop had a list of who had permits for where and it was amusing the Nazi's had a 400 person permit Lafayette park which is a pretty common place for protesters to gather and everywhere around there were several permits for 400 counterprotesters and a couple for over a 1000. If a tree falls in the forest and no ones around to hear it does it make a sound?

  • A Thinking Mind||

    "We're not going to let Nazis control our government, so in the event that a group which might contain actual neo-Nazis comes into town, we're shutting down everything and keeping people far away."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I might have enjoyed this if none of them had appeared or even ever planned to appear.

  • Idle Hands||

    I think it was the hill that ran an article today that interviewed stormfront and a bunch of other "prominent" white supremacists who said that this was counterproductive since Charlottesville. Here it is:

    Noone thought to run this before to save everyone the pearl-clutching of worrying all week this weekend.

  • Idle Hands||

    "These post-Charlottesville marches have no purpose, other than to make anyone who supports white self-determination look like a fringe lunatic," Andrew Anglin, publisher of the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, wrote this month in a blog post disavowing Sunday's rally. "We do not want the image of being a bunch of weird losers who march around like assholes while completely outnumbered and get mocked by the entire planet."

    Richard Spencer, a key organizer of the Charlottesville rally, is even steering clear and urging others to do the same.

    "I know that many have good intentions in going, but a rally like this [doesn't] make sense at this time. I don't know exactly what will happen, but it probably will not be good," tweeted Spencer, head of the National Policy Institute, which aims to "give voice to the interests of white peoples."

    The media is the absolute worst.

  • ||

    "These post-Charlottesville marches have no purpose, other than to make anyone who supports white self-determination look like a fringe lunatic," Andrew Anglin, publisher of the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website, wrote this month in a blog post disavowing Sunday's rally. "We do not want the image of being a bunch of weird losers who march around like assholes while completely outnumbered and get mocked by the entire planet."

    Turns out showing up to get punched in the face by people who want to punch Nazis makes you look like a Nazi. So, we decided to stop showing up.

    The relative sanity or self-awareness of this statement is hilarious. I can only assume that somebody on their forums somewhere has made the point that they didn't really intend to overcome all the counterprotests and overcome the government by accidentally hitting one woman with a car.

  • ||

    accidentally hitting one woman with a car

    Accidentally in that they didn't plan the first rally in order to hit someone with a car.

  • vek||

    It's actually still up in the air on that one... If you actually watched video of what was happening to that guy in the car he was being assaulted and his car was being damaged by people just seconds before that, so he sped away from the people damaging his car, probably freaking out... Whether he decided in that freaked out minute to hit the people on purpose out of anger, or whether he did it on accident just because he was freaking out and not really thinking clearly is not known.

    Honestly doesn't matter much either way. Pretty sure he wouldn't have done it had people not been attacking him in his car...

  • Rhokaza||

    I was going to guess it was something like this, but that link confirms it. They have learned that the media and local politicians are clearly on the side of the counter-protesters so don't really feel like showing up just to be gassed and beaten only to have the media misreport it and have crimes against Antifa hand-waved away. The media has clearly picked their favorite socialist revolutionaries between the two warring factions. Can we just get all of the Antifa folks and all of the Neo-Nazis together then drop them both on an uninhabited island with 10,000 assorted machetes and baseball bats?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I think Antifa just got trolled.

  • vek||

    Yup. I think it was THIS small on purpose. They could have wrangled up a couple hundreds guys at least if they gave a shit. Them doing this again somewhere else, and literally having JUST one guy show up would be pretty LOL. Especially if he just walked up to a mic and said "Haha, you just got trolled! I hope you had fun wasting your Saturday, I'm outta here!"

  • esteve7||

    30 alt-right losers show up and protest, and it warrants hundreds of news stories, reporters, etc.

    NBC has their own camera crew assaulted by Antifa and even they ignored it.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    If I was called onto a tv show as a guest and the media whined about Anti-fa attacking the media, I would laugh...

    right in their face...

    for 10 minutes straight.

  • ||

    NBC has their own camera crew assaulted by Antifa and even they ignored it.

    They're practically assaulting each other in the video above for not goose-stepping in time.

  • UltraModerate||

    Really? What video did you watch? Or are you just starting to peak off those 3 tabs of Orange Sunshine?

  • Nardz||

    Far left?
    Nope. Just the left's vanguard

  • Just Say'n||

    Judging from the pictures that I always see of Nazis, it would appear that having man boobs is a prerequisite in order to be part of the "master race"

  • Ska||

    Milk is white after all.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Without the numbers to really get the white power movement going, the poor understaffed Nazis have little time for exercise or eating right.

  • H. Farnham||

    Only 30 Nazi's... Only?!?!?!

    There were only 19 hijackers in the 9/11 attacks, and we all remember that. Sounds like we're in need of another Patriot Act, or at least common sense interpretation of the 1st amendment.

    /sarc (in case it wasn't obvious)

  • Jerry B.||

    Try reading the comments about this in the Washington Post, and you'll see that there are a lot of people who would take your sarcasm dead seriously, and add a few violent bells and whistles to it.

  • H. Farnham||

    I don't doubt that one bit.

  • Fred G. Sanford||

    Are they saying hate speech isn't protected by the 1st Amendment?

  • Ken Shultz||

    "No more than 30 far right rally goers showed up at what turned into a gathering of the far left."

    And which of the two represents a greater legitimate threat to our rights and liberties?

    If totalitarianism ever comes to America, it will ride in on an excuse to fight fascism.

  • DesigNate||

    It already did.

    Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that the fascism faded away after FDR left office (did he die in office, I can never remember). It seems like once it was decided the FedGov had all of those extra powers they wouldn't have given them up so easily.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    FDR died in office in 1945. Actually he was still president after winning his 4th term in 1944 and died in Georgia at Warm Springs.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Huh, "Cops and Klan go Hand in Hand!"


  • Eddy||

    As long as it rhymes, you can chant it lots of times.

    As long as you're screaming, don't worry about the meaning.

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    Even while you're dreaming, the internet is memeing.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    "It Takes a Bullet to Bash a Fash".

    Glad to see we're getting on board with gun rights.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I think of bullets more as piercing damage, but that's semantics.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    The Avenger used to knock people out without killing them, by deliberately scoring glancing shots against their skulls with a .22 derringer. Perhaps that's what they were referring to.

  • Mr. Dyslexic||

    I like to think of bullets as high velocity lead therapy.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "If totalitarianism ever comes to America, it will ride in on an excuse to fight fascism."

    Never expect truth in advertising from the left.

    Just as nothing ever done by the self-proclaimed "progressives" has ever actually constituted progress, the self-proclaimed "anti-fascists" are actually fascists themselves. Fascist is as fascist does and everything those antifa goons do fits the bill perfectly.

  • Eddy||

    They don't have moustaches unless the moustache is accompanied by a beard. Hitler had a moustache but no beard. Ergo, not fascists.

  • Dizzle||

    They all despise evil white capilasts as well but gargle their I phones balls every 3 seconds to update their social media that's influenced by Russian trolls they were too stupid to actually believe last election.

  • DarrenM||

    You know how it is. It takes a fascist to fight a fascist.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Master Race Rock, by the Dictators

  • Flinch||

    Good beat, but my pick for this event is Wild In The Streets. Seems to catch all sides in action.

  • Inquisitive Squirrel||

    But I thought the country was being overrun by white supremacists and Nazis?! That's what the incessant 24/7 news cycle has been telling me. Surely, this can't simply be a false narrative that is constantly drummed up to serve political and financial purposes?!

  • Tony||

    Whatever their numbers, the fact that they identify the president of the US as a figurehead should be alarming, one would think. As well as the fact that said president goes out of his way not to distance himself from them.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Tony, Obama is gone. The Lefty Nazis and Anti-fa dont have their man in the White House anymore. That is why they get out and cause trouble. They are mad.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Also, the universities are pumping out Antifa fodder in ever greater numbers. This country is going to be absolutely flooded with violent, intolerant left wingers for at least another decade, if you managed to change that tomorrow.

  • majil||

    These Wackos are lest them .001 percent of the US population. and they are leftists in their belies not right
    A lot more Americans on the left identify with The late Fidel Castro and Che .
    I do not worry about them . Grow a pair and live your life. There are risks to living ion a free society. People can have crappy ideas .Do not let that control you

  • Truthteller1||

    No way!

  • Truthteller1||

    The irony is completely lost on the completely mindless liberal fringe. The joke is on you. Get it?

  • Ron||

    Are they really nazis or just looking to have their rights upheld as other have stated. As i asked before why is protecting ones own race from being abolished considered Naziism.

  • Fred G. Sanford||

    WTF? How is any race being "abolished"?

  • NicholasStix||

    Either you've been asleep for 50-odd years, or you're just a liar.

  • Mark22||

    The burning Nazi flag was obviousl brought by the Antifa protesters.

  • Underzog||

    Tbhe Ku Klux Klan was the terorist wing of the Democrat party iafter the Civil War and Antifa is the terrorist wing of the Democrat party after the Trump election. The Democrats are evil and bizarre. These fascists of Antifa blare eff white supremacy at a black woman (Candace Owens) sitting with a white man. It was the most surreal thing I ever saw, outside of reading a "Reason" editorial praising and excusing Muslim terror against Israel and the U.S.

    'There's no need to fear. Underzog is here,

    The Troll Song (I'll be giving a new musical number shortly)

  • Demosthenes3000||

    How many of the 20-30 white nationalists do we think were actually undercover FBI, ATF, etc. ?

    All of them?

  • Brett Bellmore||

    You mean, like that episode of Get Smart where the entire Kaos cell was composed of infiltrators from various intelligence agencies?

    Or more like that fake White Supremacist group that gave McVeigh critical assistance, and then they flubbed the last minute thwarting of the crime?

  • Whorton||

    How many of the 20-30 white nationalists were carrying signs with hateful or supremist messages? None that I saw when checking coverage on several outlets.

    How many of the 20-30 white nationalists wore masks to obscure their faces? None that I saw.

    How many of the leftist virtue signalling that showed up to ostensibly save society were carrying hateful messages? Quite a few.

    How many of the thousands showing up did so in either black block, or wearing riot protective type gear? Quite a few.

    Pretty well tells me where the problem is.

  • mtrueman||

    "Pretty well tells me where the problem is."

    Problem? What problem?

  • WhatAboutBob||

    The organizer of the rally is an Obama supporter and belonged to the Occupy movement. This was the fake right, that's why nobody showed up.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Observe that the "right" are carrying Christian National Socialist icons, and the "left" are standard-issue communists and socialists. This is a socialist v. socialist confrontation libertarians would do well to identify as populating exactly one of the four squares of the Nolan chart.

  • vek||

    1. I didn't look up an exact guest list, but I don't think any of these people were actual Nazis. I believe white identity people, or perhaps white nationalists would be more accurate.

    2. I love how reason doesn't even mention all the ANTIFA violence and property destruction... What's up with that? They attacked a news crew, cops, etc in DC and in Charlottesville on this day. You're not starting to outright cover for ANTIFA now too like the rest of the media are you???

  • Brett Bellmore||

    1. "Nazi" doesn't actually mean National Socialist party members anymore. It just means anybody to the right of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    2. Yes, they are.

  • wreckinball||

    I guess they need an eye exam. Because they apparently didn't see or even report the violence by Antifa.

    The counter to Antifa are groups like the Proud Boys. And they will grow because some people are not going to accept being beat up just because of their political opinions. And that does not make them racists.

    And whats kinda funny is Antifa never seems to be handle anyone that fights back. Google Proud Boy KO Portland to get a sample. Hilarious

  • vek||

    Oh yeah. There's a protest being held where I live where the Proud Boys will be one of the groups that shows up... It's tempting to go on down and just watch the shit show if nothing else. ANTIFA pussies get their asses handed to them every single time when the people on the right decide to even just defend themselves. They've been driven back by vastly smaller numbers of right wingers several times. What do you expect? A bunch of soy boys who can't even think rationally, or a bunch of gun owners who can think logically... I'm puttin' my money on the manly men if it comes to violence.

  • Tony||

    Manly men use cars to kill people?

  • NicholasStix||

    What do "manly men" use? Flamethrowers? Aluminum baseball bats?

    If you were keeping up, you'd know that a communist/anarchist professor bragged that he'd gone after Fields with a rifle, and forced him to reverse direction.

    But I have a feeling that facts don't matter to you.

  • NicholasStix||

    P.S. Heather Heyer's own mother insisted that she died of a heart attack, not blunt force trauma.

  • Tezos||

    If they threw a party and no one came, can it still be called a White toga party?

  • TxJack 112||

    What we saw was Antifa and BLM show up and attack police, attack innocent bystander, attack the media and destroy property while chanting slogans calling for the overthrow and destruction of the US. We saw clowns who claim to be fighting fascism engage in the very tactics used by fascists to silence and destroy opponents. We saw the beginning of an internal struggle that will eventually lead to more violence and more mayhem because these groups are getting more bold and more violent with every event.

  • Duelles||

    May not be great down the road for all the anti protesters surveilled to be identified with the Antifa movement. Just a crazy fringe as left as their rival Nazi/ white supremists. Talk about birds of a feather flocking. Icky

  • NicholasStix||

    Lemme see. The Unite the Right guys are trying to save America, while the communists and anarchists are trying to destroy her.

    Yup, moral equivalence. Isn't it clear?

  • Barry Gold||

    I was at the Science Fiction World Convention (Worldcon) last weekend. A truly nutty(*) right-wing group had planned a demonstration there, and had somehow talked some other alt-right group into joining them. Once that got out, some anti-fa people decided to show up.

    The whole thing was a fizzle. There were more cops present than the total of "protesters" on both sides.The two sides were so far apart they would have needed amplication to hear what each other were saying.

    The Worldcon is SF Fandom's big annual event. We get together to talk, sing, drink, party, buy stuff, sell stuff, see new artwork, listen to concerts, discuss a wide variety of topics (various SF themes, how to sell your writing, how to create a good costume, and, yes, some "politically correct" themes), and generally have a good time.

    Fans just want to have fun. The rest of you kindly go do it somewhere else.

    At least it didn't erupt into actual violence as had been predicted in the week leading up to it. Sometimes, fizzle is a good thing.

    (*) The "Sad Puppies" (see Wikipedia) led by John del Arroz, accusing SF fandom of being a bunch of pedophiles. They found a total of three people against whom credible accusations have been made. one of whom was convicted. Del Arroz had publicly stated his intention to photograph people at the convention without their permission, in violation of the convention's privacy policy, and had his membership revoked as a result.


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