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Gary Johnson: Donald Trump AND Hillary Clinton Have Lots To Apologize For

LP presidential nominee says disgruntled Republicans are ready to endorse him over their own party's candidate.

In a new audio podcast, Nick Gillespie talks with Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson about why neither Republican Donald Trump nor Democrat Hillary Clinton won the second presidential debate—and why each candidate has plenty of reasons to apologize to the American people. He also verifies accounts that disgruntled "Republican officials" are reaching out to him with possible endorsements.

And he lashes out at people who use his gaffes about Aleppo and other foreign-policy questions as a way to dismiss what he says is the only candidate who can restore the government's finances and America's standing in the world.

Trump's ugly comments about groping women and his denigration of blacks, Muslims, and Latinos show he's unfit for office, says Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico. Revelations from Wikileaks show that Clinton is a hypocrite who will say different things to placate whatever audience she's in front of, he adds. What the country needs now, he says, is a president who will cut spending, hold taxes down, be skeptical about foreign military interventions, and allow free markets and new businesses to flourish.

He lays out his plans to do just that in this conversation.

Produced by Jim Epstein, with Ian Keyser. About 35 minutes.

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  • PurityDiluting||

    Trump is toast. One down, one to go.
    Last man standing wins.

  • Brochettaward||

    New DNC leak (apologize for Inofwars links, only one available:
    Podesta talks about how the left has been generally content to create a compliant and unaware citizenry.

    "And as I've mentioned, we've all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry," he writes.

    "The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging."

    To emphasize, Ivey admits that the left has 'conspired' to "produce an unaware and compliant citizenry" but that they're not as easy to manipulate anymore and that this is a problem. He characterizes "unawareness" amongst the public as a positive thing for the Clinton campaign.

  • Brochettaward||

    It's what every cynical libertarian has long argued and suspected. They aren't just stupid, but genuinely evil and aware of what they are doing.

  • Rhywun||

    Where's my fainting couch?

  • DOOMco||

    Someone get this lady to her couch!!!

  • SugarFree||

    That's no lady!

  • DOOMco||

    ...is it tulpa?

  • SugarFree||

    No, I mean he's no lady. He's a foul-mouthed slattern.

  • ||

    It isnt just the democrats doing this. It is the entirety of the self styled ruling class, the self professed intellectually superior and elite. The most interesting part of that email is that they have no clue why they are falling out of favor.

  • jester||

    That's why I like the Reason commentariat. That shit never happens here.

  • ||

    Most here are well aware of why they are not favorably received by the public. They are just fine with that. I wear it like a badge of honor, wouldn't have it any other way.

  • Brochettaward||

    *Bill Ivey, not Podesta.

  • Jerryskids||

    New DNC leak (apologize for Inofwars links, only one available

    You couldn't link to a reputable site for this story like the NYT or WaPo, CNN or NBC, even HuffPo or Slate? I'm sure they have the same story, don't they? Maybe it's buried somewhere among all their detailed, in-depth coverage of the leaks.

  • Bgoptmst||

    HuffPo doesn't cover anything other than Trump and Repubs sucking. I'm sympathetic, but after month 3 I'm bored.

    I also discounted it as soon as I saw InfoWars.

  • GILMORE™||

    The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly

    "IGNORANCE WAS ALL WELL AND GOOD AS LONG AS THEY WERE WILLING TO BE HERDED!!? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE IDIOTS START DEMANDING THINGS??"

  • The Metonymy||

    I keep showing Trumpettes evidence that the Clintons asked Trump to run as a Republican and the Wikileaks exposure of Clinton handpicking Trump to run against - including directives to the media to promote Trump to drown out more serious candidates - showing that Trump is (and always has been) a Clinton operative.

    And they still support him. Unfortunately there's not enough of them to stop Hillary Clinton, which is why the Clintons recruited Trump in the first place.

  • BigT||

    Jonathan Gruber told us this much more clearly. And there are videos of his talks.

    And yet the sheeple continue to bleat contentedly.

    Woe is us.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Two parties goooood... three parties baaaaad!

  • Dan S.||

    I think the comment by Walsall on the Infowars piece may be on the money: Ivey wasn't saying "the left" had conspired to create an "unaware and compliant" citizenry, he was saying all Americans effectively have.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Does Reason know it's a violation of the Fairness Doctrine to have Johnson on and not the other candidates?

    The podcasts need to be made available to a larger range of platforms.

  • Agammamon||

    I'm sorry, what's . . . what's Abeetal?

  • The Metonymy||

    Admit it you want a podcast of Nick Gillespie quizzing Hillary Clinton on free trade.

  • jester||

    how can I vote for this guy? I don't even know who his favorite Beatle is? [just guessing, he doesn't either]

  • DK||

    But his favorite Marx brother is definitely not ... Aleppo. Buhdumbum.

  • Nativist, Racist & Xenophobe||

    Lou Reed, of course!

  • jester||

    Yes, but does he realize that Ringo replaced him in early '62?

  • The Metonymy||

    The Beatles are a band of great musicians and phenomenal solo artists who sucked when they played together.

  • The Fusionist||

    What's an example of a solo act by one of their members which was better than the best songs they did as a group?

  • jack sprat||

    Neil Young, CSN&Y ?

  • The Metonymy||

    Admittedly, Harrison's "When We Were Fab" is not the lyrical tour-de-force of "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    BREAKING NEWS: Michael Moynihan apologized to Glenn Beck for muttering "Jesus" looking at the view at his ranch on VICE News Tonight.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    I don't want an apology. I just want them both to leave.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    Hey Playa, my internet's been broken since Saturday. How did Cal fare?

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    I heard they went into overtime. Last I've heard of it this week.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    BREAKING NEWS: HBO's new VICE News Tonight is telling me that Climate Change made Hurricane Matthew.

  • jester||

    I thought Chuck Norris had something to do with it.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He kicked it into submission.

  • Sevo||

    "HBO's new VICE News Tonight is telling me that Climate Change made Hurricane Matthew."

    Did they notice it wimped-out and the hurricane right behind which was "rapidly building for a one-two punch!" fell apart?
    Did Climate Change cause that?

  • jester||

    Climate change turned a glacial moraine called Long Island into an impressive piece of real estate.

  • Hank Phillips||

    That is weather change. Climate change is a faith revealed only after an Econazi candidate pulls an improper fraction multiple of the vote gap between the winning and losing entrenched looter faction. We call them spoilers because they ruin and replace the planks in the losing platform. After the Y2k election only the selfishly objective satellite record shows constant temperature this past 3/2 decade. Temperature data susceptible to forgery and manipulation took off and added nearly a whole degree to what's really happening. That's spoiler vote clout!

  • GILMORE™||

    Is this moynie's new show? Am i going to have my heart broken when i hear him becoming the new John Oliver?

  • Derpetologist||

    Fun fact- Kenneth Bone, AKA Sweater Guy from the last debate reveals a shocking secret:

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/1.....nneth-bone

    "Debate star Kenneth Bone reveals he wore red sweater only because he split the pants of his suit"

    "I split my olive suit (leading to the red sweater), because I eat like an athlete but I don't work out like one."

  • Juice||

    They both have a lot to apologize for. Remind me what it was again.

  • Shit Gary Johnson Says, Jr.||

  • Sevo||

    OK, so I get this as a tease to an article:
    "John Oliver tears into vulgar Donald Trump tape"

    Well, folks, I got a hint:

    Her actual words:
    1) "Where is the God damn flag? I want the God damn fucking flag up every morning at fucking sunrise". Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day 1991.
    -From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244.-

    (2) "Fuck off! It's enough I have to see you shit-kickers every day! I'm not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut." Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning."
    -From the book "America Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p.90.-

    (3) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your fucking ass over here and grab those bags!"
    Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.
    -From the book "The First Partner" p. 25.-

    (4) "Stay the fuck back, stay the fuck back away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just fucking do as I say, Okay!!?" Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.
    -From the book "Unlimited Access" by Clinton 's FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldridge, p.139.-

  • Sevo||

    More:

    (5) "Where's the miserable cock sucker?" (otherwise known as "Bill Clinton")
    Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer.
    -From the book "The Truth about Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5.-

    (6) "You fucking idiot" Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.
    -From the book "Crossfire" p. 84.-

    (7) "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those fucking sunglasses!
    We need to go back!" Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while in route to Air Force One.
    -From the book " Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72.-

    (8) "Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't fuck her here!!" Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female.
    -From the book "Inside the White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243.-

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You haven't even gotten to her antisemitic remarks.

  • jester||

    such pettiness everywhere. But that's what PC really is: pettiness.

  • Hank Phillips||

    PC stands for Politically Communistic. Few assertions are as easily verified.

  • You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)||

    2) "Fuck off! It's enough I have to see you shit-kickers every day! I'm not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut." Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning."

    Yeah, I'm sure that happened.

  • GILMORE™||

  • Sevo||

    "Yeah, I'm sure that happened."
    You weren't there. I wasn't there. We have rep and the word of someone supposedly there to go on.
    Given that, I'm saying the burden's on you to show why not.

  • GILMORE™||

    ..yeah, but then when it comes to *Jesus*... you get all "PROVE IT!" Suddenly 'a book' is no good!?!

    kidding dude, really. :) it was too ripe.

  • Sevo||

    Pbbbth!
    I'll give you a sort of a pass tonight, but there *is* a bit of a difference between a supernatural savior and a (recognized) miserable harpy.

  • american socialist||

    You two along with Trump should just fuck each other and get it over with

  • Sevo||

    american socialist|10.11.16 @ 12:16AM|#
    "You two along with Trump should just fuck each other and get it over with"

    Poor, poor lefty scumbag...
    Care to cite where either of us promoted or even defended the oaf? Or are you just grasping at straws as you typically do?
    Fuck off.

  • The Metonymy||

    Make sure Trump wears a microphone so he doesn't know he's being recorded. Make sure to do a sound check with him first to really highlight the self-awareness.

  • You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)||

    Doesn't seem like a mouthful for a person trying to avoid talking?

    Not saying she didn't say anything mean like the meanie she is, just that it reads like the guy embellished a wee bit.

  • Sevo||

    Yeah, but doesn't that sound like grasping at straws?
    You wanna dispute all of the quotes? If not, why pick that one? The harpy is on record in many places as being a miserable person in general.

  • american socialist||

    Fun fact: Apparently Trump believes Clinton dropped her hard drives in acid vats..,

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the.....d_her.html

    I trust Trump more with his email, because apparently he pretty much couldn't turn on a computer unless one of his aides showed him how to do it.

  • Sevo||

    My goodness! I can even!
    Non-techy doesn't understand techy-techniques! Why, I'll bet you'll use that as an excuse to lie about voting for the felon!
    Fucking scumbag....

  • american socialist||

    Your posts above were not shocking. Was that the effect-- or is it affect-- you were going for?

  • Sir Digby Chicken Caesar||

    Shocking? No.

    Sickening? Yes.

    For all the shit that LE deservedly gets around here, in those cases, there was nothing to warrant that kind of treatment.

    But, don't let that stop you from voting Scumbag '16.

  • american socialist||

    I have a new standard. I'll vote for anyone willing to spend more than 4.5 hours in the same room as the Republican nominee for President.

  • Sevo||

    "I have a new standard"

    Something other than "I want what you got and I'll take it at gun-point?"

  • Hank Phillips||

    That would be a _different_ standard. The Nationalsocialist clearly said "new".

  • Sevo||

    "Your posts above were not shocking."
    Your posts are constant pathetic defenses of that miserable felon.
    Fuck off.

  • american socialist||

    Did you know that Trump raped a 13-year old girl. He should be put to death.

  • Jimmy Free Trade Pirate||

  • Sevo||

    "Did you know that Trump raped a 13-year old girl"

    You been shopping that lie around as if you believe it, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    Fucking scumbag...

  • american socialist||

    No, all kidding aside. He only raped his ex-wife.

  • Sevo||

    All kidding aside, you're a fucking *lefty* scumbag who is pathetically gullible besides.

  • Sir Digby Chicken Caesar||

    He only raped his ex-wife.

    That's (not) what she said...

  • Sir Digby Chicken Caesar||

    OK, OK... Let's go with, "That's what she recanted"

  • ||

    He only raped his ex-wife.

    Who among us hasn't from time to time?

  • The Metonymy||

    Not me. Her fake titties feel weird.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Let's all ridicule Sevo
    again

    You been shopping that lie around as if you believe it, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    Fucking scumbag...

    (laughing) Trump is indeed being sued for raping a 13-year-old girl, chump.

    So now you can vent your uncontrollable rage at me too.

  • BigT||

    After a third attempt at filing a lawsuit against Donald Trump for allegedly raping a young teen, the case may finally get it's day in court. According to Snopes, the rape case was dismissed in May 2016 in California, but refiled in New York in June 2016.

    The golddigger is judge-shopping. Not a strong case.

  • Rhywun||

    The new pivot is that deleting tens of thousands of incriminating emails was OK because Trump is less technically sophisticated than the IT lackeys she had do it. And they used freeware! Catch up.

  • american socialist||

    No, this is a new thing. Trump is such a fucking dumbass that he doesn't know that emails aren't deleted with the stuff that chlorinates his pools at Trump Tower and that his staff is so obsequious that they don't dare correct His Eminence.

  • Sevo||

    "Trump is such a fucking dumbass that he doesn't know that emails aren't deleted with the stuff that chlorinates his pools at Trump Tower and that his staff is so obsequious that they don't dare correct His Eminence."

    Cool story bro.
    You're early with the hallucinogens this evening; leave the fantasies to AC.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Sevo is the spokesman for the wacko faction in libertarianism, assaulting the notion of an actual policy platform for Johnson/Weld as "statist!! If we scream government hatred, loudly enough, then a free society will magically arise from dandelions (or something)

    Could ANYONE br insane enough to say, publicly, that policies for governing toward liberty are statist, See for yourself!

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/10.....nt_6442132

    Dozens of others here describe policy platforms as "conspiring with statists."

    Cato's survey found the libertarian brand rejected by 91% of libertarians. By the numbers
    53.7% of Americans are "David Nolan libertarians." (fiscally conservative, socially liberal)
    5.3% are "Ron Paul libertarians" (extreme conservative, both socially and fiscally)

    The goobers sneer that the survey is 10 years old, blissfully unaware that their score has DECLINED!
    Common knowledge that social acceptance has increased sharply, marriage equality on example.
    So the Nolan score has increased. The Paul score, at best, is the same, thus an even smaller percentage of all libs. .

    Meanwhile, a survey of 10-year-olf children shows they believe that "extreme social and fiscal conservatism" is .... CONSERVATIVE (gasp)

  • Sevo||

    Mike, did you have a point?
    (gaffawing!)
    Man, you are tiresome...

  • Sevo||

    "See for yourself!"
    http://reason.com/blog/2016/10.....nt_6442132

    You stupid shit, I really did click on that link and found a reference to an earlier thread with absolutely nothing to suggest you had any idea regarding what you propose or support.
    Here:
    http://www.gurl.com/2014/01/16.....atching/#1
    You NEED to look at every one.

  • Michael Hihn||

    click the link for UNDENIABLE proof of Sevo's latest lie (sneer)

    You stupid shit, I really did click on that link and found a reference to an earlier thread with absolutely nothing to suggest you had any idea regarding what you propose or support.

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/10.....nt_6442132

  • The Metonymy||

    Which faction of libertarianism gets to decide which faction of libertarianism is wacko?

    The process involves a bong or else.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Which faction of libertarianism gets to decide which faction of libertarianism is wacko?

    Need not even be libertarian. Anyone who knows that libertarians, as a core principle, do not tolerate aggression. Now verbal aggression is protected speech, but the mentality is the same as physical. To punish, or require conformity to the whatever a bully chooses to impose.

  • The Metonymy||

    So conform to a Cato poll I didn't get to participate in or you'll keep a file on me and chase me around?

  • Sevo||

    Oh, and chlorine isn't an acid. Have problems in chem, along with just about everything else?

  • american socialist||

    I'm a chemical engineer. Swimming pools are typically disinfected with muriatic acid-- aka Hydrochloric acid. One hydrogen and one chlorine. Since the bond is ionic this acid is completely dissociated into its respective ions in an aqueous solution. The equilibrium coefficient for HCl in water at room temperature is 1000-- meaning that there are approximately 33 times more H+ and Cl- ions in that solution compared to its intact molecule. Is there anything else you want to know about chlorine? Valence states, electro negativity, etc.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Swimming pools are typically disinfected with muriatic acid-- aka Hydrochloric acid.

    ?

    In this universe, pools are typically disinfected with calcium hypochlorite.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Heroic (sic) Mulatto .. ever the bellowing blowhard.

    http://www.arizonapoolservice......orinewash/

  • Sevo||

    Hey, Mike! Did you have a point? Or just a random link to, uh, something?
    And what did the Kock brothers say when you gave them those screen shots you saved to show them you had been laughed at?
    Did they also (laugh) at you?

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    Hihn's point was that he doesn't understand English. He doesn't understand the difference between disinfecting and cleaning.

    Acid washing the concrete of the drained pool, disinfecting the water that people swim in.... how can such a simple man know the difference???

  • Michael Hihn||

    Hihn's point was that he doesn't understand English. He doesn't understand the difference between disinfecting and cleaning.

    MORE Playa bullshit!!!

    How can such a simple man know the difference??

    Once again, a braying jackass From the link:

    During the chlorine wash we use several gallons of liquid chlorine which we pour directly onto the pool surface. We scrub the entire pool with the chlorine which kills and disinfects all contaminants including hidden algae spores. This is an effective treatment for swimming pool algae removal. Our chlorine is full strength, not diluted.

    PLEASE STOP STALKING ME. I feel guilty, like kicking a helpless cripple.

    (my tone and boldface justified in defense of aggression, an unprovoked attack. He will get his revenge by continuing to stalk me, always as dumb as this one!)

  • Michael Hihn||

    The link proves him wrong.
    They haven't seen them yet, chump.

  • Michael Hihn||

    The link proves him wrong. I've made an ass of you again.
    It takes one sick fuck to create an entire new identity here, using my name, for the sole purpose of more unrprovoked attacks, i.e. aggression. Are they like 12-year-old playground bullies, or what?

    (tone an boldface justified in defense of aggression)

  • BigT||

    Ouch!! You're all wrong!

    he following list details the proper water chemistry levels for optimal swimming pool functionality and comfort:
    pH: 7.4 – 7.6.
    Chlorine (CL2): 1.0 – 3.0 ppm.
    Total Alkalinity: 80 – 140 ppm.
    Calcium Hardness: 200 – 400.
    Cyanuric Acid: 25 – 50 ppm.
    Total Dissolved Solids: 500 – 5000 ppm.

    Cyanuric acid is a chlorine stabilizer. It's a weak acid that keeps the sunlight from disassociating the chlorine.

    Note particularly the pH - the water is alkaline, not acidic.

    The worst answer was AmSoc's - hydrochloric acid. You wouldn't want to swim in a pool that had even a modest concentration of HCl. It could seriously burn your eyes. Although as Hihn points out, it can be used to clean the AmSoc, ... er ...scum from the pool, but not in the swimming water. Any HCl formed in the mix reacts with Ca(OCl)2 to form CaCL2, H2O, and Cl2

    HM correctly identified the most common source of the chlorine, calcium hypochlorite, so I guess he was not wrong.

  • Trigger Hippie||

    If the blue collar dipshit can chime in here, I can't say I've ever heard of using muriatic acid for your pool. Used it plenty of times to clean excess mortar from the face of brick and cultured stone but never in the pool.

    Fun fact: If you accidentally let it soak into your work boots it will leave permanent tissue damage that emulates frostbite if not cleaned off in a reasonable time...my feet look rough.

  • Derpetologist||

    My degree's in ChE, and I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two other regulars in that category.
    Swimming pool chlorine is not hydrochloric acid and anyway it's the chlorine not the pH that kills bacteria and algae.

    And if you're smart enough to be a chemical engineer, why can't you pay a mortgage you deadbeat?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    And if you're smart enough to be a chemical engineer, why can't you pay a mortgage you deadbeat?


    It's hard to get a gig as a chemical engineer when you hate Asians so much that you refuse to use the Redlich–Kwong equation.

  • american socialist||

    For that reason I only use Peng-Robinson. Oh wait.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    For that reason I only use Peng-Robinson. Oh wait.

    The China-man is inscrutable and insidious, no?

  • american socialist||

    How do you regulate the pH in your pool?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I use bromine for my hot tub for sanitizing and sodium carbonate/sodium bisulfate to regulate pH.

  • american socialist||

    OK, great, thanks. I don't have a pool. Nevertheless, can you tell Sevo that chlorine used to disinfect Trump's pools comes from an acid-- weak or otherwise.

  • Sevo||

    "Nevertheless, can you tell Sevo that chlorine used to disinfect Trump's pools comes from an acid-- weak or otherwise.Chlorine"

    A "chemical engineer"? How about a pool-boy?
    "Chlorine is a chemical element with symbol Cl and atomic number 17. It has a relative atomic mass of about 35.5. Chlorine is in the halogen group and is the second lightest halogen, following fluorine. The element is a yellow-green diatomic gas..."
    Any search you please, Mr. "Chemical Engineer".

  • Derpetologist||

    "How do you regulate the pH in your pool?"

    Well, if I'm an idiot like you I pour a bunch of concentrated acid in. And if I'm even dumber, I pump the water into a vat of acid for extra cleaning, because nothing bad ever happens when you add water to acid.

  • american socialist||

    Hey Derp,

    Without looking it up how much muriatic acid would you add to make up 1L of 5M HCl?

    And, can you tell DT that you don't have to dip your hard drive in pool cleaner to get rid of pesky emails? He seems to think this is necessary. You sound pretty competent around strong acids so you are the perfect emissary.

  • Sevo||

    "Hey Derp,
    Without looking it up how much muriatic acid would you add to make up 1L of 5M HCl?
    And, can you tell DT that you don't have to dip your hard drive in pool cleaner to get rid of pesky emails? He seems to think this is necessary. You sound pretty competent around strong acids so you are the perfect emissary."

    Hey scumbag, how much other irrelevance can you toss around in the hopes someone buys your bullshit?
    Fuck off.

  • Michael Hihn||

    Sewvo
    Hey scumbag,... Fuck off.

    Sevo's advanced assholery and all around thuggishness is documented in this comment (for anyone who NEEDS proof)

    http://reason.com/reasontv/201.....nt_6462061

    Meanwhile, I'm submitting this subthread on swimming pools as THE most useless of the day, for the entire Internet. The Battle of Bellowing Blowhards award.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    Holy shit.

    You linked to another comment of yours, which linked to another comment of yours... and then I didn't give a fuck anymore.

    You provided proof that you're a fucking nut job, and a Cato survey shows that 91% of libertarians agree, with another 9% too drunk to respond.

  • Michael Hihn||

    You linked to another comment of yours, which linked to another comment of yours... and then I didn't give a fuck anymore.

    (lol) You never did give a fuck..
    Did I PROVE what I said about Sevo?
    1) Thuggish, proven by an unprovoked personal attack, PLUS the one I responded to? IA pattern.
    2) Wacky, by saying an actual policy platform would be statist?

  • Brian||

    Because it's pool boy engineering.

  • Sevo||

    "Because it's pool boy engineering."

    Hey, we have "Sanitary Engineers".

  • Sevo||

    "I'm a chemical engineer."

    I hope no one is stupid enough to pay you for that.

  • Sevo||

    Come to think of it, it's obvious no one *is* that stupid. You couldn't afford to pay the mortgage you agreed to, you fucking deadbeat.

  • Derpetologist||

    Wonderboy Amsoc sez:

    "The equilibrium coefficient for HCl in water at room temperature is 1000-- meaning that there are approximately 33 times more H+ and Cl- ions in that solution compared to its intact molecule."

    Ah, no. Ka for HCl in water is 1x10^6. You're off by 3 orders of magnitude there pal. That means there are 1000 H+ and 1000 Cl- ions for of every molecule of HCl in a 1 M solution at STP.

    Looks like your understanding of chemistry is about on par with your understanding of economics.

  • Sevo||

    But Derp, he MEANS well, and he's gonna vote for the felon, 'cause Trump!

  • american socialist||

    You may want to look at the updated reference here:
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/s.....8185901921

    Not the one you cite, which relies on a paper from 1971. Let me know what you find out. :-)

  • Sevo||

    "You may want to look at the updated reference here:
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/s.....8185901921
    Not the one you cite, which relies on a paper from 1971. Let me know what you find out. :-)"
    Grasp that straw, scumbag! Maybe someone here will think you're, uh, well......
    Fuck off.

  • Derpetologist||

    Wonderboy sez:

    You may want to look at the updated reference here:

    Not the one you cite, which relies on a paper from 1971. Let me know what you find out.

    log10K1 = −3.811 + 2995/T(K)

    at STP, that works out to about log10K1 = -3.8 + 2995/298 = 6.293

    so K1 = 10^6.293 which is within an order of magnitude of the 10^6 figure I found and 3 orders of magnitude higher than what you said.

    So yeah, you're still wrong. You didn't think I was going to check, did you?

  • Bgoptmst||

    I'm assuming he is a public school teacher. ChE didn't work out so he teaches middle school kids mediocracy while being an insufferable bore.

    I imagine his pension is better than mine, but hey the military offers travel and excitement ... they never said riches.

  • Conchfritters||

    "Ka is a wheel."

    Roland Deschain

  • The Metonymy||

    Why does it taste horrible on toast?

  • Brian||

    At least he doesn't think the first letter of every book chapter and paper he reads is a big, bold "C".

  • Derpetologist||

    So here's what we've learned about Amsoc:

    He's a lying, socialist, Hillary Clinton supporter (but I repeat myself) who can't do high school chemistry and doesn't pay his bills.

    That about covers it.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    You make his sound far better than he deserves.

  • american socialist||

    Do you know how to make a 5M solution of muriatic acid? I can do it in my head, BTW.

  • Sevo||

    "Do you know how to make a 5M solution of muriatic acid? I can do it in my head, BTW."

    Oh! Oh! Be still my heart!
    If you made sense, it would be an improvement.

  • american socialist||

    I trust you know that emails are deleted by throwing your computer in pool cleaner. Maybe you should tell Dr. Trump.

  • Sevo||

    "I trust you know that emails are deleted by throwing your computer in pool cleaner. Maybe you should tell Dr. Trump."

    I trust that you've wasted a lot of bandwidth hoping no one noticed that along with being a fucking lefty scumbag you're also a pathetic excuse for what you claim to do for a living.
    Again, it's no wonder no one is willing to pay you enough to cover a mortgage.
    Go rent a double-wide someplace; that's where the poolboys live.
    Oh, and fuck off.

  • Derpetologist||

    Dude, you're done. You don't know a damn thing about chemistry. Did you see above when I pointed out that your equilibrium constant was off by a factor of a thousand?

    You may have been able to bullshit people before with superficial knowledge, but that ain't gonna fly here, especially when it comes to things like science and engineering.

    As for your silly question, it depends on the volumes of water and acid, and the concentration of the acid. But those are the sort of things you would know if you could do high school chemistry. And if by some miracle you can do it in your head, congratulations, you can do a 2 step algebra problem in your head. Your medal's in the mail.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    High school stoichiometry is tough for retards. It's even tougher if you don't know how to use google.

    But the socialist can do it in his head. With Pool Boy algebra. 5 Molar solution of..... a term only a pool boy would use.

    Tulpa is so fucking drunk tonight.

  • Derpetologist||

    Let's go through the Tulpa checklist

    -argumentative
    -pedantic
    -claims expertise but lacks basic knowledge of the subject
    -continues to argue long after being decisively refuted

    Yeah, that's enough. It's Tulpa. I should have known.

  • Derpetologist||

    In his next episode of Ask Dr Stupid, Tulpa, I mean Amsoc, will explain how the sum of the square roots of an isosceles triangle are equal to the square root of the remaining side.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QaWmAGK1U

  • Sevo||

    "Yeah, that's enough. It's Tulpa. I should have known."

    I don't think so.
    Tulpa's idiocy is easily matched by lefties even more imbecilic than he/her. Tulpa never promoted any sort of government control r production, just a general support of the power of the state; the LEOs

  • Brian||

    I don't know how to make a 5m solution of muriatic acid.

    And, based on your story, that knowledge isn't worth very much.

    Sorry: I hire out for that kind of stuff. The pool guys handle things nicely.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    It involves water, a jug of hydrochloric acid (pool boys call it muriatic), and arithmetic.

    And he was bragging about it.

  • Brian||

    Sound boring.

  • Trshmnstr smells of Lo Mein||

    Well, I don't have a pool, and I don't have muriatic acid, but I do have 3 lbs of sodium hydroxide, so if somebody has some muriatic acid, I believe we can create saltwater. (I haven't taken chemistry since high school, so we may end up creating hydrogen peroxide and chlorine gas or some other horrible concoction)

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    Or you could straighten your hair or clean your drains.

  • The Metonymy||

    Does the job test for pot smokers?

  • gaoxiaen||

    That explains your brain damage.

  • MarkLastname||

    I can do t tests on my computer using R, because it's not the 19th cenrury, so why on earth would I waste my time doing them in my head?

  • The Metonymy||

    Trump's 12 year old son is a computer genius. That's how he knows more than the generals.

  • GILMORE™||

    A strange and amusing coincidence -

    a friend who knows my tastes suggested i watch some of This Guy's movies

    I picked 2, made 10 years apart. I figure, 'these might be representative'.

    I click on one, and skim through it to get an idea of the pacing, who's in it, how it looks, etc.

    I come across this cute phrase

    "huh", i think. "that's something".

    So i click on the second movie, made 10 years later.

    i skim. i immediately come across this cute phrase.

    huh. never let a good thing go to waste, i guess.

    Now I feel compelled to watch all of his movies. not because they're good, but because i feel like there's going to be a prize if i find all 5, or something.

  • Rhywun||

    I *love* "In the Soup" - it is a favorite late-night go-to movie for me. Haven't gotten around to "13 Moons" yet but it's on my list. "Four Rooms" is a little shaky but has some good moments. Don't know the rest.

  • GILMORE™||

    I'm surprised i've never seen any of his stuff, since he seems very 1990s NY-centric (as opposed to LA 'independent film'), and seems to be exactly the sort of stuff i'd be predisposed to. just slipped through the cracks somehow.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    If I were a film "auteur," I would fit this scene into every movie I made regardless of genre, setting, or appropriateness.

  • SIV||

    Ken Russell was a truly great filmmaker.

    Theresa Russell's best work was in this romance classic.

  • GILMORE™||

    "....And in that moment, what they call "the Alt-Right" was born..."

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Surely, Welcome Home, Brother Charles had something to do with that.

  • GILMORE™||

    and don't forget "Gayniggers From Outer Space"

  • Rhywun||

    You can't go wrong with anything Buscemi did in those days... I like "Parting Glances" and "Living in Oblivion" a lot too. That whole scene was so incestuous.

  • Derpetologist||

    Caption this Donald Trump picture

    "Allow me to introduce you to my very special friend, Mr Peepers."

  • Brian||

    "Guess what else I have in the box."

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    "Someday...I'll be president and grab your pussy."

  • GILMORE™||

    "This bird? is fantastic. the best! picks all my stocks. i trained it myself. it shits on "buy" and pecks on "sell"

  • Derpetologist||

    I would think it would shit on sell and peck on buy, but OK.

  • SIV||

    his denigration of blacks

    What's with this? Does Nick Gillespie just want to slip in "de nigra"? Fucking racist.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    And redundant.

  • Rhywun||

    I was wondering about that too, maybe I missed something.

  • PapayaSF||

    Don't you know? Trump is the embodiment of every one of today's Bad Isms and Phobias! EVERY ONE!!!

  • IceTrey||

    A little guy talk disqualifies Trump? George Washington owned 300 slaves when he was President.

  • The Metonymy||

    In his defense he did have a receipt.

  • Derpetologist||

    Benny Hill presents: Cars vs Protesters
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2pCgepCbm4

    the horror: able-bodied food stamp recipients without dependents may now only get food stamps for 3 months
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMtTxvvLWEs

  • Rhywun||

    Cool snuff film, bro. A laff riot.

  • Derpetologist||

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • Michael Hihn||

    (yawn) Yet another cheap shot at Johnson in the headline, totally unjustified by the content, by the Ministry of Propaganda for the cult of Roan Paul.

  • Sevo||

    (yawn) (laughing) (farting in your general direction) (telling funny stories about you)
    Hey, Mike! What did the Kocks say when you sent them the screen shots with the circles and arrows, explaining how...
    Ah, the hell with it. Buzz off.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    Now that you mention it, I wonder how many court orders list Michael Hihn as the restrained party.

    Hihn, do you remember any police coming to your shack to take your guns away???

    Of course you don't. Rage blackouts.

  • Michael Hihn||

    DOUBLE aggression by two bullies so sick that they don't even care who notices unprovoked attacks

  • DOOMco||

    Youre a crazy person.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    So crazy, that If Michael was a chick, I'd be interested.

  • denatureindonesia||

  • GILMORE™||

    so i turned off the filters to find out what was going on in this thread....

    ...and i learn that AmSoc has taken the stupidest pseudo-"Fact check" ever made, and decided it provides him his ace-in-the-hole super-weapon to slay all his foes.

    It would be cute if it were someone else.

    I guess he missed scott's article, where this 'selectively-ignorant-literalism'-M.O. was pointed out as the lamest rhetorical weapon of a pitifully desperate segment of the media.

  • Playa Manhattan.||

    The election season fucking sucks. I have one more hour of alone time. Maybe it's time to plan out my next vacation.

  • american socialist||

    Wrong dumbass. Trump said that HRC deleted her emails with "chemical"

    You can watch it right here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UOPXkeITZzY

    That's because he doesn't know what he's talking about . That's why he thinks downloading freeware is an expensive process. But, no worries, two-bit hack partisans like you will be there to pick up the pieces for him like the predictable, pedantic arrogant fucking hack you are. Good boy.

  • Michael Hihn||

    I don't like you, amsoc, but I do enjoy watching you crush the same bullies who keep stalking you, in rotation.

  • PapayaSF||

    [Sees long argument about pool chemicals, backs away slowly....]

  • american socialist||

    "Michael Hihn|10.11.16 @ 1:11AM|

    Meanwhile, I'm submitting this subthread on swimming pools as THE most useless of the day, for the entire Internet. The Battle of Bellowing Blowhards award."

    Hi Michael,
    Thanks, point taken. For the record, I really don't give a rat's ass about chlorinating swimming pools. Have a nice night.

  • XM||

    Donald Trump AND Hillary Clinton have lots to apologize for?

    Spread the word, Gary Johnson is a woman hating right winger?

  • Michael Hihn.||

    Thanks. Really need a job now.

  • Michael Hihn||

    That's not me. Some sick fuck who went to all the trouble of creating a new identity here, using my name???
    Crazy, eh?

  • MarkLastname||

    Hey that's not cool "Mike", we know you're the imposter here. Leave the real Michael Hihn alone, he worked hard for his reputation.

  • BigT||

    Gary Johnson, Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton have a lot to apologize for.

    Get the damned punctuation right!!

  • Glide||

    When it comes to Republican establishment hacks endorsing a third party, I will believe it when I see it. It's much safer and more convenient to hide in a corner whispering "I'm not with that bad orange man" until he goes away. If you start getting crazy and reminding people that there's more than two options, that severely crimps your own support from a populace that generally can't stand you but feels they're stuck with you because the other team is worse.

    I might believe it from guys like Lee who more or less march to their own drum, but guys like Lindsey Graham supporting Johnson? No effing chance, and there's a lot more Grahams in Congress than Lees.

  • Grant||

    No, Nick, I don't think the politician's have a thing to apologize for . . . it's the voters. But, of course, we aren't smart enough to figure that one out.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Janis didn't and Gary doesn't need to apologize for their lifestyles.

  • Jr12||

    Gary Johnson....the first welfare state libertarian candidate

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