In a new audio podcast, Nick Gillespie talks with Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson about why neither Republican Donald Trump nor Democrat Hillary Clinton won the second presidential debate—and why each candidate has plenty of reasons to apologize to the American people. He also verifies accounts that disgruntled "Republican officials" are reaching out to him with possible endorsements.
And he lashes out at people who use his gaffes about Aleppo and other foreign-policy questions as a way to dismiss what he says is the only candidate who can restore the government's finances and America's standing in the world.
Trump's ugly comments about groping women and his denigration of blacks, Muslims, and Latinos show he's unfit for office, says Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico. Revelations from Wikileaks show that Clinton is a hypocrite who will say different things to placate whatever audience she's in front of, he adds. What the country needs now, he says, is a president who will cut spending, hold taxes down, be skeptical about foreign military interventions, and allow free markets and new businesses to flourish.
He lays out his plans to do just that in this conversation.
Produced by Jim Epstein, with Ian Keyser. About 35 minutes.
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