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Why 1995 is the Year that Created the Future

How did Timothy McVeigh, O.J. Simpson, Monica Lewinsky, and the Netscape IPO all shape the word we live in today? American University professor of journalism W. Joseph Campbell sat down with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie to discuss the misunderstood, often nostalgized, and wildly underappreciated decade of the 1990s in his new book, 1995: The Year the Future Began

Campbell argues that the last years of the millenium were much more than a "holiday from history" as we awaited the terror attacks of 9/11. From the dawn of the Internet to the post-Cold War complexities of foreign policy, the 1990s set the stage for the most enduring issues of the 21st century.

Runs about 26 minutes.

Produced by Todd Krainin. Interview by Nick Gillespie. Cameras by Meredith Bragg and Krainin.

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INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS

reason: You talk about 1995, 20 years ago, as a clear starting point for contemporary life, a hinge moment, and the first year of the 21st century. What do you mean by that?

Campbell: Well it was a year of multiple watersheds really, and these watersheds add up to the recognition that this was a decisive year, this was the inaugural year really of the 21st century. It was the year in which we can recognize a lot of the elements of what we live with now, so it was really the year the future began, and the watersheds that I discuss in the book include the rise of the Internet. Now the Internet wasn’t invented in 1995, but it entered the mainstream consciousness.

reason: Talk a little bit about the signal events that made it. The web had been around a few years, the Internet for a couple of decades, but, so there was, for instance, the Netscape IPO.

Campbell: That’s right. The Netscape IPO in August of 1995, was really a moment that illuminated the web for a lot of people. Netscape of course made a fantastic browser, and it was very popular. The company had only been in existence for a year and a half when it had this IPO, and it went through the roof literally, and the shares were incredibly important and valuable, and Netscape showed that some people could make money on the internet, but more importantly, it illuminated the web for a lot of people who weren’t familiar with it and weren’t aware.

reason: It seems so long ago, because Netscape’s fortunes—we might as well be talking about A&P or Sears Roebuck or something.

Campbell: Exactly. The trajectory of Netscape was even briefer than that. It was from like 1994 to 1999. So it really was meteoric, and it became a terrific property. It was a terrific company. And it embraced a lot of the swagger and potential of the web.

reason: Marc Andreessen, one of the co-founders of Netscape. If Jim Morrison was the ultimate, first real rock star, Andreessen was the first real web star.

Campbell: Exactly. And I wish I had said that for the book. It happens to be accurate. He really was. And he was really in his early 20s, just out of college when he co-founded Netscape. He and his partners recruited some of his buddies from the University of Illinois, where he had developed a browser before coming to California to start up Netscape, and these guys made a new browser that was wildly popular.

reason: These guys were somewhat trenched in history. They were coming out of a tradition, but it was mostly that they were young and looking forward and weren’t going to play by the old rules. 

Campbell: In many respects, that’s true. And they were kind of setting their own rules, and the Internet allowed people to do that, because nobody knew what this was going to look like. In fact, up until the mid-90s really, they thought the Internet would be a component, a sub element of a broader information superhighway. 

reason: That was also in the mid-90s… People are afraid of change, and the web becoming kind of commercialized and a mass medium, people freaked out, and Congress in 1996 ended up passing the Communications Decency Act as part of the Telecom Act, which would have regulated the Internet effectively like a broadcast network. What happened that that did not take place?

Campbell: Well that piece of legislation, the Communications Decency Act, was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and I believe it was a unanimous decision, but I believe it was overwhelmingly unconstitutional and recognized as such, but it was an early an attempt by Congress to begin to grapple with the potential, the deleterious potential of the web, of the new technology, and a lot of people thought this was going to be just a cesspool of pornography and nothing redeeming about it at all. In fact, some of the Congressman and senators behind the Communications Decency Act had very little firsthand familiar with what they were trying to regulate.

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  • JeffreyinSandySprings||

    forgot about windows 95 - pretty much kicked off popular use of computers for alot of people.

  • Drave Robber||

    Popular use of computers was probably kicked off by Win 3.1, if not earlier.

    Win 95 however made Microsoft-bashing mainstream and socially acceptable. :)

  • Sevo||

    Ah, yes, the ritual "sitting down".
    But I'm pretty sure you could pick several other years and make the same sort of claims; weak tea.

  • Almanian!||

    I came here what Sevo already said.

    So I'll just say, "Thanks, Sevo"

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    A cane tip to Sevo?

  • Almanian!||

    My mom and sister bought me a cane for my birthday. It's from England and it's REALLY nice.

    Now I need a monocle and tophat...

  • ||

    You don't have a monocle? What is this all about?

  • Almanian!||

    I have two monocles that I call "eyeglasses", for the present.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You can fix that with wire cutters.

  • lap83||

    For some reason I read about your cane and imagined you have gout. Maybe it's the lingering mental image of the bacon crust pizza

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Almanian! is old. And Sevo is even older.

  • lap83||

    I guess so

  • Chumby||

    Was the year Brian Williams ____________ (fill in the blank

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Landed on the moon

  • mr lizard||

    Met your Future Reptile Overlords?

  • Los Doyers||

  • GILMORE||

    Defeated the last vestiges of communism

  • ||

    Found Nicole Simpson's REAL killer.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Smoked marijuana for the first time.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Killed Osama

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    Tried to deliver pizza to a cryogenic processing facility, but ended up stumbling into a suspended animation pod only to wake up a thousand years into the future?

  • Sevo||

    Whoa! Cool story, bro!

  • S. Quincy||

    Nibbler did it.

  • S. Quincy||

    Was Chris Kyle's spotter.

  • Sevo||

    Invented the INTERNET!
    Oh, wait...

  • Chumby||

    The correct answer is that he took Screetch's virginity on an episode of Saved By The Bell then later did the same to actor Dustin Diamond.

  • Los Doyers||

    Discovered Hispaniola

  • Walter Peck||

    Met his wife, Morgan Fairchild

  • Sevo||

    Ooooh, Dunphy's gonna be pissed! Smooches!

  • gaoxiaen||

    Lost his butt cherry.

  • Knarf Yenrab!||

    Campbell: Well that piece of legislation, the Communications Decency Act, was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and I believe it was a unanimous decision, but I believe it was overwhelmingly unconstitutional and recognized as such, but it was an early an attempt by Congress to begin to grapple with the potential, the deleterious potential of the web, of the new technology, and a lot of people thought this was going to be just a cesspool of pornography and nothing redeeming about it at all. In fact, some of the Congressman and senators behind the Communications Decency Act had very little firsthand familiar with what they were trying to regulate.

    I vaguely remember this period in American legislative nonsense. It criminalized transmitting porn over networks and would've imposed prison sentences on transgressors, and it was hugely popular. Bill Clinton, that paragon of decency, loved the idea of tossing sexual deviants who like porn into prison and pushed hard for the bill to pass along with his mortal enemies who courted the Moral Majority vote.

    In retrospect, there's nothing about the PATRIOT Act or SOPA or the nationalization of healthcare or the internet that should've surprised us. We've taken a few steps since FDR's day (the lion's share due to Rand, Friedman, and Read), but for the most part the legislature & courts are just as willing to roll over for executive authority now as then.

  • gaoxiaen||

    "the potential, the deleterious potential of the web, of the new technology, and a lot of people thought this was going to be just a cesspool of pornography and nothing redeeming about it at all."

    How disappointing that it didn't live up to the hype.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Fuck you AT&T. I hate you

  • ||

    You don't even know hate until you've been given the opportunity to hate Comcast.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm not in their fiefdom. I have Fios Triple Penetration or whatever it's called.

  • ||

    Thank the invisible sky gods for that.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I am bound to AT&T though. If they push me far enough, they'll pay just like sprint did.

    We have something here called "Court Call". You can appear before a judge via phone, which beats having to go downtown, pay for parking, and wait in line.

    The rules state very clearly that there are no cell phones allowed. You MUST use a land line. Of course, nobody follows that rule. It's risky, though. If the call drops during the hearing, you're looking at a contempt charge or maybe even getting the whole case thrown out.

    So I have an M-Cell to route cell calls through the internet. Of course, it's broken. So I had to go the AT&T store. They seem to have copied everything that's evil about the Apple Store. Assholes with tablets walking about, no indication of who is in charge. I bought a new one, and I'm still trouble shooting. I hope to be done by Monday.

    Fuck AT&T.

  • Chumby||

    Until you stop goving them money, they own you.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I messed up. I saw a shiny iPhone 6 plus.

  • Chumby||

    GG well played.

  • userve32||

    Heck yeah didnt AOL come out in 1995? AOL rocked the world!

    www.AnonWeb.cf

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    You're not helping your credibility, anonbot.

  • Robert||

    You mean hir credibility that s/he's not a real human? Looks like that one's pretty well blown by this comment.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    Well, 1995 gave us Michael Mann's Heat and Toy Story. But it also gave us Waterworld.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Heat in 5.1 sound was awesome. I remember watching the shootout scene over and over.

  • Dave C||

    Sure was. Loved that sound of all the empty shells bouncing around on the pavement

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I know what I'm doing tonight.

  • Virginian||

    I actually think Waterworld is an ejoyable post apocalyptic action flick. Dennis Hopper is great as the bad guy.

  • lap83||

    It gave us Heat, but it also gave us Jagged Little Pill. It's almost...what's the word?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    10,000 spoons, when you're morally opposed to spoons?

  • ||

    Is this Late Nite Links?

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    So let it be written - so let it be done!

  • ||

    I think we all should base this year's donations on 2 things:

    1. Late Nite Links creation

    2. Edit feature

    1 of the 2 gets 50% intended donation. 2 of 2 gets 100%. 0 of 2 gets not jack shit.

    It's like politics, sooner of later you gotta make em deliver or you wind up with nothing.

    All I have now is a beanie and a free script to the reason rag.

  • Raven Nation||

    Welch sometimes posted an "Open Thread" link. It died while The Independents was on the air. It probably needs to be resurrected.

  • Almanian!||

    Independents died that Open Thread may live! Let us rejoice and be glad in it....

  • Sevo||

    Almanian!|2.20.15 @ 7:45PM|#
    "Independents died that Open Thread may live! Let us rejoice and be glad in it....

    Are we not LIBERTARIANS?
    ALL threads are open threads!

  • Chumby||

    The first rule is that all threads are open threads. The second rule is that you do not discuss fight club.

  • ||

    I think it's more of a timing thing. It seems we do have a lot of west coast posters. And even though I'm on the east coast, I tend to ramp up later in the evening.

  • Almanian!||

    "I have come here to make a donation to Reason and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum..."

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    3. Recipe thread

  • 19sigils||

    A blog front page that doesn't freeze the browser while it is loading?

    I honestly don't know if the rest of the site suffers from the same bullshit, but HtR? Fuuuuuuuuuck.

  • Winston||

    Why do we need Late Night Links? The libertarian curfew is 10 PM EST after all.

  • Sevo||

    I've noticed that, you schmucks!

  • S. Quincy||

    The clock just ticked 10:00PM, what do I win?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    A more accurate clock.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    So much for libertarians letting you stay up late and eat ice cream.

  • Sevo||

    Now, I'm not accusing anyone of anything...

    "How Marijuana Hijacks Your Brain To Create The Munchies"
    http://washingtonstate.org/how.....-munchies/

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "Little Caesars is rolling out a deep-dish pizza with a crust wrapped in 3.5 feet of bacon."

    http://time.com/3713252/little.....zza-crust/

  • Almanian!||

    Wow. Talk about an approach/avoidance conflict...

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Speaking of, Shamrock Shakes are back.

  • S. Quincy||

    3.5 feet of bacon

    That was a big pig

  • Almanian!||

    Meh - it's alllll in how ya slice 'em

  • S. Quincy||

    What, you adding circumcision to the topic mix?

  • Los Doyers||

    If the foreskin don't fit, you must acquit.

  • ||

    Maybe we can send ISIS some of those as a peace offering.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    We want to make them LESS angry. He did say Little Caesars.

  • lap83||

    "Promoted with the tagline “in bacon we crust,”

    I don't think they're going to win any advertising awards. Just a hunch

  • ||

    "Promoted with the tagline “in bacon we crust,” "

    I see this in my future. My wife is a sucker for food puns.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You missed the part about it being Little Caesars. They are 1000 times worse than Chipotle.

  • Winston||

    Mother of Mercy, is the end of Rico?

  • ||

    And bacon. She is a sucker for bacon.

    She will not be able to resist.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I made some outstanding beef bacon beans tonight. The top secret recipe:

    2 cans Bush Baked Beans
    1 package Beef Bacon

    My wife is a jew. I can't make it the correct way.

  • ||

    Dude, add in some garlic, beef broth, white pepper, 1/2 onion and a few drops of bitters or/and worchestershire.

    Also, sear your beef before adding.

    I already ate but you just made me hungry again. Dammit. I will have another vodka.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The beef bacon is a hickory smoked beef plate. Soooo fatty. It can flavor anything.

  • ||

    Is it kosher? I still don't get understand what that is. I live in a neighborhood that is like at least 50% Jewish.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Beef isn't pork, so it's close enough. She doesn't read labels and check for the circle K.

    But I have seen some Kosher certified smoked beef plate. They don't call it bacon, because that would be wrong.

  • Virginian||

    I live in a neighborhood that is like at least 50% Jewish.

    Owings Mills?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Beverly Hills?

  • Sevo||

    Clifton?
    BTW, Bush's Baked Beans are one of those 'why should I make this from scratch anymore' things like Best Foods Mayo.
    Yeah, if I really try, I might make some slight improvement that *I'd* notice...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It was the main course tonight. Seriously. That's a big deal in my house.

  • Winston||

    This is the proper fate for critics of Little Caesars:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi5KtR34hJQ

  • Winston||

    But I'm pretty sure you could pick several other years and make the same sort of claims; weak tea.

    Threadwinner.

    +100 Sevo.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Oooh. Another cane tip.

  • Sevo||

    Just remember when you tell your friends, as I'm sure you want to do: It's pronounced with a long "e".
    Thank ya! Thank ya ver much!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    SEH-VO

    got it

  • Winston||

    Is it French?

  • Los Doyers||

    Sehvorance pay?

  • Caleb Turberville||

    I think 1996 was the start of the 21st century. ID4 was the symbolic destruction of the 20th century. Nintendo 64 came out. The Star Wars special editions had not yet come out. Arnold Jingled All the Way. Kerri Strug saved the Olympics. Billy Corgan had just gone bald. Alanis Morrissette was ironically unironic. The Unabomber was arrested. Mount Everest experienced it was most lethal climbing season. Osama bin laden put a jihad on us. The Yankees beat the Braves. Alan Greenspan declared a irrational exuberance. Next was bought by Apple. Michael Jordan space jammed, and Jean Luc Picard sought revenge against the Borg while Zephram Cochran made First Contact with the Vulcans.

    Drops mic.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    When was the OJ chase?

  • Caleb Turberville||

    October 1995.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Consider the argument settled.

  • Sidd Finch v2.01||

    June 1994

    I was at 75 feet baseball practice that day.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    I thought you said case. It was June 1994.

  • lap83||

    "Michael Jordan space jammed, and Jean Luc Picard sought revenge against the Borg"

    I remember seeing both of those movies with my dad. The Borg were way cooler than the crappy contemporized Looney Tunes characters.

  • Virginian||

    You will not talk shit about Space Jam. Not in my presence.

  • Caleb Turberville||

    Yeah, Space Jam was cool mostly for Michael Jordan and the soundtrack.

  • Virginian||

    Bill Murray was also great in it. It had jokes that you could never get away with today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LH8qisTVj0

  • Winston||

    I hope Michael Jordan will be as good as he was in Space Jam in the new Fantastic Four Movie.

  • Chumby||

    That R Kelly song, "I believe she was five. I believed that I touched her thigh."

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Christ, I remember being at a church youth camp in 1990 and a brother in the lord who also masturbated to Madonna and Claudia Schiffer came to me and said, "Brother Agile, you need to create websites because you are talented at art and design." He was a strange yet oddly lovable Pakistani boy attending Michigan state with bulging eyes and two supremely beautiful sisters. I did not follow his advice. And, I rue this even though I did make money in other preoccupations. However, I cannot forget this Pakistani boy with all his interesting baggage.

  • Winston||

    Too coherent to be Agile Cyborg.

  • ||

    Give him time.

    He will become less coherent yet no less poetic. It beats anything I have ever seen.

    I hope Reason archives are inscribed on the skin of the universe forever so that Agile Cyborg's comments are immortal.

    *poor showing I know, but it is in tribute to him.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Let us welcome the new, (comparatively) sober AC!

  • Agile Cyborg||

    So my phase fluctuates. Is this what Winston implies? Well I do admit to riding an odd assortment of ponies from time to time and I've been known to dance to an interminable cadence but 'too fucking coherent'... Dear gentleman of the thread please beat a hasty retreat to the safety of your own spaceship or I shall be forced to zap you with a thousand volts of ninja.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    The early Madonna nudes from the 1980s were a true turn-on. She was a true brunette obviously.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Most women are brunettes downstairs. Not that you should know that.

  • ||

    ButtPig only knows what color Obama's asshole is.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I have an educated guess.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Great takedown of a true scumbag:

    Rudy Giuliani knows a lot about love.

    Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was "offended" when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.

    Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He's the Giulaini police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison.

    Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being "brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country," a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of ,bHarold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy's uncle.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/opi.....-1.2122253

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Yawn

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I hate these fucking police-state pro-war con-men hypocrites who dodged the draft when they were younger.

    Of course Rudy is GOP so you "yawn" since he in on your team.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I hate him. I have actual personal experience with him, and he is awful.

    But you posted it, and you have.... issues.

  • Warrren||

    Yup all the issues of 'Sheep Wearing Rubber Panties' except for issue 3, which in fairness is almost impossible to get ahold of.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    So wrong. Sheep should go commando. Easier pickins that way.

  • Lord at War||

    I hate these fucking police-state pro-war con-men hypocrites who dodged the draft when they were younger.

    Tongue some more Hillary gash for us, Plugbutt...

  • ||

    Well, look at the club he is in:

    http://www.breitbart.com/video.....rom-aspen/

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Fuck Bloomberg. He is as bad as Ruby Guiliani.

    Ed Koch was a shit too as well as the new guy. Obviously being Boss of New York is an authoritarian asshole's job.

  • ||

    He's lickin those cankles

    He's cuckoo for Hillary

    He's licking those cankles

    Lick those cankles, ButtPig, lick em!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    He already has his KFC 2016 Hillary Bucket. 2 Fat thighs and 2 left wings.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    How often do you two suck each others cock?

  • ||

    We don't have to, we have you, sweety.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Dude, I hate everyone in charge. You only hate Republicans (in spite of what you say).

    You slurp D cock every chance you get, particularly with healthcare and the economy.

    Project much?

    I get that your extended Republican family disapproves of your reckless, impulsive life choices. But this isn't group therapy, bro. Sort it out somewhere else.

  • Sevo||

    Turd just wants help with his daddy-issues!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    My fee schedule starts out at $575 an hour. Maybe he can just get C. to give him the meds.

  • Sevo||

    Don't take a check; turd lies.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I assume he would pay me in singles.

  • Chumby||

    His moms once came home with $100.25 after a hard night working. Her boyfriend pimp asked who gaver her the quarter. She replied that all of them did!

  • Sevo||

  • Lord at War||

    Playa-

    You forgot the two small breasts, you ignorant drive-thru window jockey. :o)

  • Winston||

    Pshaw 1985 is the year that created the future:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXN6tgE4g_4

  • Winston||

    the 1990s set the stage for the most enduring issues of the 21st century.

    You mean past events have an effect 20 years later? How profound. We definitely need a book on that. Did you know that what happened yesterday has an effect today?

  • Sevo||

    "You mean past events have an effect 20 years later? How profound."

    If you mention this to turd, I'm sure you can get several replies all referring to "BOOOOOOOOSH!"

  • lap83||

    Semi-related...in the sense that it involves a designer talking to a client who wants a website that is like 90s web design on acid (the comments give the link to it, but I won't link to it here to avoid people trying to hunt me down and kill me)

    http://clientsfromhell.net/pos.....-site-ever

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm gonna file that under "Things that are not real".

  • Robert||

    Mr. Simpson of the cartoons had a page like that, all items stolen.

  • gaoxiaen||

    Here's a video LSD trip that really works.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9uYEM2osYQ

  • Virginian||

    Long week. Just chased a double bourbon with a large bottle of Hardywood Raspberry Stout. Feeling much better.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm lagging.

  • creech||

    I just came from a lecture where the speaker (a boomer) made a pretty good case that the world changed irrevocably on 11/22/1963.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I don't see what Stephen King has to do with it.

  • Warrren||

    Yup, the Beatles released their second album AND C.S. Lewis died. Huge day.

  • robc||

    Aldous Huxley died too.

  • Almanian!||

    Lou Reed is dead. Did you know this?

  • S. Quincy||

  • Raven Nation||

    Sorry, but that's a tired argument: the innocence of America blown away on the streets of Dallas.

  • creech||

    No, his point was the innocence was blow away for boomers - that we started to question authority then instead of respecting it like good citizens (our parents) taught us to.

  • Raven Nation||

    You think that's correct? There was a lot of challenge to authority before then wasn't there? Sit ins started in the late '50s, Freedom Riders in 1961, Port Huron Statement was 1962.

  • Sevo||

    Speaking as a boomer, I didn't have any desire to have him dead, but as far as I was concerned, it was a couple of days with the school closed.
    Never bought the Camelot marketing and at the time, the fed gov't really was pretty irrelevant on the local level.
    Then we got LBJ, and his wife wanted to close all the junk yards were we scrounged parts for our cars; ugh!
    Maybe that was the 'loss of innocence'.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    Last day for a Doctor Who free world?

  • ||

    The best alcohol that has ever been created, and I've tried most of it, is J.K.'s Scrumpy Hard Cider. And I don't even like cider. I have a bottle of it ice cold, ready to drink. This shit is elixir of the gods.

  • Warrren||

    Thanks for the heads-up.Will look for it here.

  • ||

    It's sort of an unfiltered pungent tasting thing. There's just something about the taste that I love, and the buzz... Well for me there's a big difference in the buzz I get off different alcohol and this stuff is the best.

    I tend towards beer myself, though. I don't like wine at all, or most liquors, but I do like tequila and sugarcane rum.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    A great tequila makes me misbehave badly... I don't think it is really the fucking TEQUILA per se'... i do think there is a mexican thunderbolt IN really fucking good TEQUILA that makes me strip my fucking cloths off and then in a 3 oclock dark through empty rural streets where friends shout and cry for you to get in their suv... and then you find yourself in a massive orgy of human flesh..

  • gaoxiaen||

    I usually don't remember that happening and have to rely on second-hand information.

  • S. Quincy||

    The 20th century ended when the Berlin Wall fell. The 21st began on 09/11/01. What do we call the time in between?

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Reaganarök?

  • S. Quincy||

    That is so metal.

  • Sevo||

    Nice!

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    The taint?

    ... Hobbit

  • Chumby||

    Middlebellum

  • Winston||

    More Grundian Derp on Greece:


    Ramos 28m ago

    Shame on the center-left parties. They are traitors of socialism. They abandon SYRIZA, left them out to dry. Center-left parties of europe have conceded everything to rightwing.

    I support the radical left of my country, in my case, the Communist Party of Portugal. I expect nothing more from center left. I urge left wing people to do the same in their own countries. We have to comprehend where center-left lost to conservative: they have accepted the conservative economical worldview's guidelines as the background of their political struggle. This means that any victory center-left may achieve happens within that worldview e just maintains its main guidelines running.

    Not accept the logic of the adversary, its world view, its causes, its conceptions as the background of the action is the first step to free left wing from being a simple alternation within right wing's fundamentals. Look at Holland - he is the freshest example of left wing systematic defeat to the right even when it governs.

  • Sevo||

    Darn, those other people won't join this guy in a suicide pact!

  • Paul.||

    Not accept the logic of the adversary

    Stuff like Supply and Demand. Got it.

  • Paul.||

    Seattle Times now has scientific data that not everyone shops at PCC, is concerned that people are making bad decisions.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/se...../#comments

  • Sevo||

    Could someone force-feed that twit several bushels of nuts and berries?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Every thing about that article is retarded. Is that an 8th grade newspaper?

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Gene Balk is the spittoon of reality.

  • Chumby||

    Isn't him using the word guy in his "FYI Guy" description as disingenuous as labeling a drink sweetened with GMO high fructose corn syrup as "organic?" Just sayin.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    I remember Kevin Smith talking about a shit expericne some years back... and he had smoked several fukin bowls and ate some fucking pizza and then decided to take a shit... nice large man on a bowl... very large nice man... and then the shit commmnced... eons of pushing and shoving this massive hunk of godamn snake ... a fucking thoroubred cobra with a name and rank... that was a tiny poop worm

    well... as you fucking whore punkass drinkers and tokers know...

    your butt lies. Your fucking poophole fucking goddamn lies like a motherfucking asshole... it sez in my prison is a huge motherfuckin turd. in my prison is the fucking whore ass assasin turd. the worst of the galaxy of whore ass assisans NINJA tURDS...

    and then this fucking pellet drops onto the waters... a FUKING pellet a FUCKING whore ass tiny ass turd... I just fukin forced what I thought was a fucking tank through this fuking svelete tiger of a man and then I wiped and noticed and I recoiled like a mamba...I shat a pebble... a lonely turd pebble...

  • Paul.||

    Was it like wiping a marker?

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Man speaks from experince...

  • S. Quincy||

    your butt lies.

    What else am I going to believe?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It's called a ghost shit. You feel it coming out, there's shit on the toilet paper, but the bowl is empty.

  • gaoxiaen||

    Poltergeist coprophagia?

  • Sidd Finch v2.01||

    eons of pushing and shoving this massive hunk of godamn snake ... a fucking thoroubred cobra with a name and rank

    amazing

  • S. Quincy||

    So an Agnostic and a Unitarian walk to in a Syrian hookah joint...

  • Agile Cyborg||

    I really enjoy hookah with arabs, old boy.

  • S. Quincy||

    Sorry, the punchline is "The Lutheran is the bouncer."

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Well these things do go awry from time to time, quincy. I've enjoyed some interesting travels on galactic belts if the hookah was oriented in a way that served us bros right. Does quincy roll on fields of quantum magic?

  • S. Quincy||

    Does quincy roll on fields of quantum magic?

    Ethanol, exclusively. It's a vocation, really. I recycle aluminum.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The good stuff is in bottles.

  • S. Quincy||

    Silicon snob!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    IPA. IPA. IPA.

  • S. Quincy||

  • Agile Cyborg||

    I remember fucking with my old godamn church pastor when I was like fucking 8. I don't know why. I didn't like the disgusting fuck. I thought he was a horrible shitty human being who treated my parents like trash and I hated him for it... it was like fucking 1982 and this religious crapzit ran a goddam branham cult and he owned my fucking parents and I hated his horrid shit ass... I was too fuckin new as a human being to understand I could be controled...

    He was a treasure hunter. the fuckin jesus branham cultist was a treasure hunter... he sold all the newest fucking gear for detecting metal in the 80s, man. A fuckin metal detecting god this horrible abusing shit was...

    So he shows up at our property in inner city Toledo in the early 80's and proceeds to detect the fuckin whole yard and cut circles with his knife and the fucking fat hog found nothing.... during lunch I made a couple of dimes dirty with soil and then showed my dad...

    I found dimes when that fucking shitty ass horrible fuck found nothing with his 80s tech... That cult pastor hated me from then on and made my life miserable... I hated pompous horrible human beings from an early age...

  • Robert||

    All that about 1995 but no mention that that's when Giuliani was 1st elected mayor? That had more consequences in the future than his time as US att'y.

    It was also a big yr. for financial scandals worldwide. I'm sure some of those are still echoing too.

  • C. Anacreon||

    1995 is the year my wife and I got married. If memory serves, it was also the last year we liked being in the same room for more than a few minutes.

    20 year anniversary coming up, though.

  • widget||

    The OJ chase is about the only 1990's event I can distinctly remember. I have probably told this story before here, but it never gets old to me. Along with about a dozen other onlookers who were also listening to a new radio station in their car that day, I stopped and got out my car. Like the others, I just happened to be at a West LA 405 overpass at the time. Yes! I saw, with very my own eyes, the white Ford Bronco travelling southbound under me. I was also on the Mike Douglas show briefly, but that was in 60's.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It was the first time I ever played with boobies. Great day, as far as I'm concerned

  • Chumby||

    Chris Jenner will be able to play with boobies a lot!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Not my primary concern, but OK.

  • Paul.||

    Yeah, it was the last time I played with boobies.

  • widget||

    OK, there's another thing I remember the 1990's, in reference W. Joseph Campbell's take on Netscape and the Internet explosion. I wrote posts on Usenet under my own given name. A lot of others did so also, with some sense of bravado. The posts will still show up on a Google search of my unusual name. It's not Ming Wu, like about a million or so Chinese.

  • Sevo||

    This was recommended to me:
    "Thieves of State: Why Corruption Threatens Global Security"
    http://www.amazon.com/Thieves-.....l+security
    Comments?

  • widget||

    It's a bit hard to get a handle on the book from that link.

    I have been to two third world countries, Pakistan and Bangladesh. My knowledge is limited. On IMF missions. Upon my arrival, an engineer from Dhaka informed that the City's temperature had risen 17 degrees Celsius in the last 50 years as the result of American imperialism. He wanted me to fix that. And he was nice, as I later came to find.

  • Sevo||

    widget|2.21.15 @ 12:51AM|#
    "It's a bit hard to get a handle on the book from that link."

    Danke.
    the reco comes from a suspect source, but I've read more than this book requires and then ignored it. Hell, I've read books by Krugmann!
    Other comments appreciated...

  • widget||

    Just one 'n'. The German word "krug" mean King. The Kingman. Sorry, I have nothing better to do right now. Jews who lived in Germany took on German last names to assimilate and fly below the radar of German ethnocentrism. I have a German last name which is more popular among Jews than with the Roman Catholics in my family.

    Klein (small) is a popular German-Jewish name. But King? That takes some balls.

  • Chumby||

    German word for king is Koenig. Krug means jug.

  • Chumby||

    JackhandAce is an engineer in Dhaka? No shit.

  • Winston||

    More Grunidan on Greece:

    Hypatia415 29m ago

    'The bailout money hasn’t benefited the Greek population, but in its largest part has gone straight from European bank accounts, through Athens, and back to the European Central Bank or the International Monetary Fund' 'Guardian' today.

    The bailouts have led to the destruction of the Greek economy, mass unemployment and the myth of Greek profligacy. Many Greek businesses and privatised public utilities have been gobbled up by foreign companies, many of them German, at basement prices. Greek real estate has been bought up for a song, as the lower and middle-income Greeks are forced to sell their off their patrimony to pay the interest on the bailouts.

  • Winston||

    If Herr Schauble, the ECU and the IMF are such great financial wizards why can they not help the Greek government to track down the real tax-avoiders on the 'Lista Lagarde' who have their illicit gains stashed away in Swiss bank accounts and offshore, money-laundering havens? If the US could print money to bail out the banks and rogue financial 'wizards' why can't the ECB? It is only paper after all and totally worthless. Try some genuine 'quantitative easing'. It won't signal the end of your world.
    Finally, could Frau Merkel and her team stop moralising about debt defaults when Germany rebuilt and modernised after the havoc it wreaked on Europe in WWII with generous capital investment provided by the victors and denied to its victims such as Greece and the USSR?
    A little of what the Greeks call 'filotimo' is required and NO MORE AUSTERITY! It is a killer.

  • Winston||

    This is the remainder of the comment, not my comment, sorry.

  • Winston||


    angryinsocal 1h ago

    If Greece withdrew from the Euro it would be the best thing for its own economy and in the long run the best thing for Europe and the world. The Euro single currency has been an unmitigated disaster. Since its advent it has decimated the economies of Greece, Portugal, Italy, and Spain and even Germany and france have under-performed from their post war averages. Especially, when crazed austerity clowns pushing discredited 1930s economic models come to power at the ECB and in Germany. Monetary stimulus is the one method Greece can use to pay off its debts and stimulate growth. Unfortunately, it has ceded its most important tool to a bunch of tight fisted Euro technocrats who still believe in austerity. China and America used liberal fiscal and monetary policy to stimulate growth and job creation, their economies bounced back after the great Recession. The Eurozone decided to slash public sector spending while private sector spending was also collapsing. Their imposition of 1930s economics has resulted in 1930s style economy. The Euro single currency is an epic disaster and its continuation will insure that Europe will continue to the weak sister of the developed world economically.

  • Winston||


    JulianTurnbull North2011 1h ago

    Very well-said! But I have a feeling that they are buying time for an exit. And I hope they do. Clearly, austerity cannot work. Common sense, Keynes and history tell us so. But try telling that to this dreadful bunch of amateur Bullingdon-Boy chancers running this country. What has happened in Greece - the collapse of society - is happening here too, but it is slower, because we are larger. And when we wake up, it looks like the Darwinian chancers will be back again, because they have more money than Labour to win the election. God help us if they do. They really do not believe in a "society". They will sell everything to their donors and themselves: hospitals, schools, roads, village greens. The list is endless. They wrap themselves in the Union Jack doing it.

  • Winston||

    babiss 4m ago

    Several months ago the European Central Bank along with the IMF announced a 3 billion euros input to the european economy,whay happened to that.Greeces last government imposed austerity on the Greek people that hit the pensioners and the disabled.austerity does not work.after christine lagard got her brain into gear she even said it wasn,t working.cammoron in the uk can,t get austerity right,any child can have a surplus of money by atacking the most vulnerable and slashing services as well as sacking thousands of people.Herr squabble is a right wing fascist arsehole that has no concerns for the whole of europe what so ever.if Greece tells the euro zone to stick it they can,t be any worse off than they are now.they,ll run out out of money people say,not if they don,t pay the loan.the out come of all this is never trust or be in a club with some nazi

  • Almanian!||

    Well, I see Winston's up still playing. I'm hacking my lungs out from a fucking COLD I picked up after I got over the goddamned FLU a couple weeks ago. Fucking winter and other people and their goddamned motherfucking germs.

    One bottle of water down. I think I'd better have another...hydration...it's what's for three in the morning.

    Happy weekend, all you Reasonoids.

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    Sorry to hear that. There's still the stomach flu going around, so you've got that to look forward to.

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