End the Fed? Or Turn It Over to Trump?
Plus: ICE shootings divide the country, the Iran uprising intensifies, and California targets billionaires with a wealth tax
This week, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, and Matt Welch are joined by Reason senior editor Robby Soave to discuss the Justice Department's (DOJ) investigation of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell and whether this latest tactic is just a form of political retaliation. They discuss whether there is a coherent case for the probe, how much influence presidents should have over monetary policy, and where the line is between oversight and using legal machinery against perceived adversaries.
The conversation then turns to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) shootings in Minneapolis and Portland, where federal agents killed Renee Good during an immigration enforcement operation and shot two people outside a federal building days later, even as Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem brands the Minneapolis victim a domestic terrorist and local officials accuse Washington of lying about what transpired. The panel talks about accountability for law enforcement, and how Americans can watch the same videos yet reach completely different conclusions. The editors then look at the uprising in Iran and the contrast between President Donald Trump's support for protesters there and his deployment of federal force at home, before examining California's proposed wealth tax and how it might impact the state economy.
0:00—the DOJ investigates the Federal Reserve
7:54—Trump's proposal to cap credit card interest rates
12:42—ICE shootings divide the country
37:35—Iran protests intensify
43:14—Listener question on Democrats holding Trump accountable
52:28—California wealth tax
1:01:33—Weekly cultural recommendations
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"Demanding Charges Against His Enemies, Trump Conflates Justice With Revenge," by Jacob Sullum
"2 Grand Juries Have Rejected the Grudge-Driven Case Against Trump Foe Letitia James," by Jacob Sullum
"Video of the Minneapolis ICE Shooting Does Not Resolve the Issue of Whether It Was Legally Justified," by Jacob Sullum
"ICE in Minnesota," by Liz Wolfe
"The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says," by C.J. Ciaramella
"Iran's Inflation Protests Turned Into an Uprising. Will Trump Get Involved?" by Matthew Petti
"A Breakable Regime," by Liz Wolfe
"No Other Choice Is a Dark Satire of Capitalism and Masculinity," by Peter Suderman
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End the fed
The Fed is a great example of what happens when the government gives itself more power and the courts bypass Article V by reinterpreting the Constitution to allow the power grab. Gee, who coulda guessed that politicians and bureaucrats would actually use the new power in "unintended" ways?
Sure, Renee Good should not have been shot. But she was the one cosplaying where no one with a functioning brain would have been. It's like reading about some bozo jumping a zoo fence to pet the pretty tiger. Damn shame the tigers killed him. But it ain't the tigers' fault.
Anyone who thinks blocking cop cars and taunting them at close range, or egging on her wife with "drive, baby, drive", is the way to fame and fortune, well, so sorry. Don't jump the zoo fence and the tigers can't get to you.
Whether the dingbats like it or not, the law allows deporting illegal immigrants. Put your efforts into changing the law. Otherwise you're as stupid as PETA protestors yelling that zoos are slavery and jumping the zoo fence.
100% could be said about any protester who gets shot dead. Is that really what you want to say?
That weird lipstick lesbian (man she would have fit in perfectly at today's Reason) pretty much had a death wish. Had she managed to get away from that encounter unscathed, she 100% would have eventually been back in almost no time once again, probably with even more aggressive and antagonistic tactics.
Imagine being such a worthless loser with so little to live for that you're willing to voluntarily martyr yourself for a complete and total putz like Tim Walz and a bunch of Somali criminals defrauding America to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. To say she's no big loss is an understatement.
Once again the people who vote these idiots into power don't have to deal with the ramifications of their policies. Wealth Tax? Wealthy will leave but yet remain in public eye promoting these same morons that are running the state into the ground. Spielberg hiding Biden's brain rot will be funding whatever Kamala moron runs next. meanwhile I have to live here and live with the policies they support.
Huh:
The United States Attorney’s Office contacted the Federal Reserve on multiple occasions to discuss cost overruns and the chairman’s congressional testimony, but were ignored, necessitating the use of legal process—which is not a threat.
The word “indictment” has come out of Mr. Powell’s mouth, no one else’s. None of this would have happened if they had just responded to our outreach.
This office makes decisions based on the merits, nothing more and nothing less. We agree with the chairman of the Federal Reserve that no one is above the law, and that is why we expect his full cooperation.
https://x.com/USAttyPirro/status/2010886969518170452
Let me guess, "End the Fed, but in the meantime, let's agree to disagree and keep the fed in place in perpetuity until there's a bipartisan, handholding moment when Democrats join with Republicans, embrace the full Libertarian Moment and End The Fed through a careful, procedurally valid set of actions which follow the full force of due process, every district court and judge in the land has provided its full-throated endorsement and the Supreme Court validates the action in a single, clearly articulated ruling, thus Ending The Fed."
By George, I think he's got it!
If Reason had its way, nothing good would ever get done. Which is a big part of why they hate Trump so much.
Needs moar Orange Man Bad.
Orange Man bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He Make America Great Again!
We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!
See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!
Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!
We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!
These voters simply can snot or swill snot recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!
Spam flag
End the Fed is as intelligent as No Blood for Oil or Hands Off My Medicare. A confirmation that Americans now offer nothing at all re citizenship and are merely manipulated props in protest.
Thank You Matt for stating the FACT that Labyrinth is a horrid film, I am 57 and every GF and wife I have ever had loves this pile of shite. Caused many an argument when I refused to sit and watch it, only film worse than rocky horror garbage.
I prefer Jennifer Connelly’s films where her boobs have reached full size, but before her unnecessary and ill advised breast reduction.
She had breast reduction? That's like slapping God in the face for giving you a beautiful gift!
Yes, yes it is.
Career. Opportunities.
You will find that most films that children of the 80s love were actually not that great. Goonies was slow with terrible pacing. Dark Crystal was a bore. Legend was schizophrenic. And those are the classics. Even Princess Bride is often quoted by every Gen X girl religiously, despite being a chauvinistic passion play that most would reject in literature.
The fact is, when we were 13 year olds, we had no taste and these movies were amazing spectacles. And we look past that today, even though deep down, we know the movies weren't THAT great.
I will not have you disparage goonies.
Princess Bride remains one of my favorite movies. I like Labyrinthe and all the weirdness of it. Dark Crystal just kinda felt gross all throughout and was also boring to me. Goonies makes no sense but is fun.
I don't get the love for Rocky Horror, but I also hate sex clowns (drag) and musicals.
I agree with this analysis. Time Bandits was better than all those.
Yes on Time Bandits. I like the Henson movies too, but Gilliam is a better film maker overall and does absurd weirdness in a way that tickles me just right.
exactly
Labyrinth, the Princess Bride, and Neverending Story are all abominations of cinema.
75 minutes of their inane babbling? Not a chance.
Yes. End the Fed. There is no excuse for its existence and certainly no excuse to violate the US Constitution and use paper as a trade median instead of gold/silver.
"To do that, we'd have to kill her!"--The Scarecrow
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Do you TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit realize how much of a parody you have become?
If not, go back to bed, get up and look in a mirror.
Speaking of parody ∆
Imagine spending your money on a libertarian magazine, and discovering, to your great shock, that their opinions are libertarian.
It's worth noting that you wouldn't be "turning it over to Trump," you'd be presumably "turning it over to the President of the United States."
I think it's a terrible idea, but then I think handing it over to an obviously politically partisan group (like we do now) isn't really any better than handing it over to the President.
If this is a system of "checks and balances," what exactly is the "check" on the current version of the Federal Reserve? I don't see one, and I'm pretty sure they like it that way.
End this monstrosity once and for all, and take the credit card away from the Government.
The data from Open Secrets on political donations from the Federal Reserve:
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/federal-reserve-system/summary?topnumcycle=2024&contribcycle=2024&lobcycle=2024&outspendcycle=2024&id=D000043326&toprecipcycle=2024
That's $648,000 for Democrats, $33,000 for Republicans. So much for an "independent" organization.
And more about the Fed's "independence:"
https://www.independent.org/tir/2022-fall/political-affiliations-of-federal-reserve-economists/
It's "the long march through institutions" writ large. It's an arm of the DNC.
"Democrat economists at the Federal Reserve outnumber Republicans 10 to 1. The imbalance is even larger among economists in leadership positions, among younger economists, and among female economists."
That's an excellent link.
So, what happened to Nick?
Lost his fucking mind if you look at his tweets.
Actual reason is the 60-something aged hipster is on paternity leave. Meanwhile, Wolfe pushed out a kid and has contributed.
Who looks at tweets?
But thanks.
aw! the baby puked on my jacket!
>>whether this latest tactic is just a form of political retaliation.
a. end the fed
b. did you read Jeanine Pirro's explanation before you podcasted?
Jim Bianco has imo the best counter for Powell to Trump's threats. Trump's threat is to independence of monetary policy. Powell needs to, for the remainder of his term, make it very clear that dissent in monetary policy is welcome, encouraged, and expected. 7-5 votes - not 1 or 2 dissents.
Should have happened decades ago. That is what would, as much as possible by this point, eliminate the power of the Chair to do anything other than conduct the meeting.