The GOP Budget Is Big, Bloated, B.S.
Plus: A listener asks if the economic inequality data is bad.
This week, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Matt Welch critique President Donald Trump's proposed tax legislation and its fiscal irresponsibility, discuss the national deficit and credit rating downgrade, examine the media and political cover-up of former President Joe Biden's cognitive decline, and highlight the broader consequences of institutional failure and partisan denial.
0:00—"Big beautiful bill" breakdown
2:21—The MAGA (Money Account for Growth and Advancement) baby account boondoggle
13:54—SALT cap debate and wealthy blue state subsidies
19:12—Proposed Medicaid cuts and "fiscal illusions"
23:02—Moody's Ratings downgraded the U.S. credit rating system. Does this matter?
27:09—The Supreme Court takes up birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions
34:41—Who pays tariffs? Trump vs. Walmart
40:24—Listener question: Is the economic inequality data bad?
46:09—What did we know about Biden's health and when did we know it?
48:24—How the media didn't responsibly report on Biden's health
1:01:04—Weekly cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"GINI Index for the United States", by St. Louis Federal Reserve
"Everyone Agrees Government Is a Hot Mess. So Why Does It Keep Getting Bigger?" by Nick Gillespie
"The Long and Whining Road: The Beatles, Boomers, and Boredom," by Nick Gillespie
"Still Fab: Why We Keep Listening To the Beatles," by Charles Paul Freund
"Equal Pay for Equal Work: Appreciating the Female Half of Power Couples," by Nick Gillespie
"Trump's Tax Plan Is a Leftist Economic Agenda Wrapped in Populist Talking Points," by Veronique de Rugy
"Republican Reconciliation Package Will Lead to $3 Trillion Annual Deficits," by Christian Britschgi
"Trump Threatens Walmart Not To React to His Tariffs," Joe Lancaster
"Trump's 'Deal' With China Leaves American Consumers and Exporters Facing Higher Tariffs Than Before," by Eric Boehm
"The Supreme Court May Rule for Trump on Nationwide Injunctions but Probably Not on Birthright Citizenship," by Damon Root
"Trump's Case Against Birthright Citizenship Is a Constitutional Loser," by Damon Root
"Defenders of Trump's Birthright Citizenship Order Offer an Implausible Take on a 127-Year-Old Precedent," by Jacob Sullum
"Joe Biden's Cancer Diagnosis Shouldn't End Scrutiny of the Cognitive Decline Cover-Up," by Robby Soave
"Biden's Cancer," by Liz Wolfe
"Andor Is a Star Wars Show About the Brutality of Bureaucracy," by Peter Suderman
"64 Reasons To Celebrate Paul McCartney," by Ian Leslie
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A listener asks if the economic inequality data is bad.
All data is bad, except the data we like.
All real data is bad, so trust model projections. - Eric, stg, sarc.
It is BIG and bloated. Just less BIG and bloated than last year.
No. It's not. It's even bigger.
Wrong. It is 8 percent smaller for what can be controlled through reconciliation dumdum.
Zero chance Trump will have a smaller deficit than Kamala would have had. But that’s what is great about voting —voting for Bush in 2000 because Clinton got a BJ is just as good a reason as any other reason to vote for a president. Btw, pee comes out of a penis and so I agree with Lindsey Graham—it’s gross for a woman to stick it in their mouth. Although I disagree with Lindsey about putting my mouth where pee comes out of a woman!! I’m a baaaaaaaaaaaad boy!!! 😉
You got a cite and link for any of that rambling shit?
A BJ involves a woman sticking a penis in her mouth and stroking the penis with one hand and using her other hand to stroke the balls. What’s gross is men pee out of the penis…so the vagina seems like a better place to stick a penis! But either way Lindsey Graham would be grossed out because a woman is involved.
Damn, that’s dumb.
He’s probably one of the dumb shits who writes the articles.
I keep that retarded faggot muted.
Your gonna miss his crypto advice. I am waiting with much anticipation for his knowledge.
Why are you telling an obvious lie, Sarcasmic? You're not smart enough to trick people.
Remember last year when Reason wrote *does search* exactly ZERO articles on the much more spendthrift 2024 budget?
Though they did manage to warn us that Trump's promise to stop
stealingtaxing tips would be a disaster for the next budget.The same with 2023 although, Vivek Ramaswamy Is Wrong About the National Debt back then, and they fussed about Republican perfidy around the debt ceiling.
Seeing as this is a remarkably better budget, I wonder what the (D)ifference now is?
More like Vivfake Ramaswampy…am I right??
No.
That would be your lord and savior Bill and his best pal Epstein.
Kash said Epstein committed suicide!! lol. What is so hilarious is Brit Hume’s’ son committed suicide the same way as Epstein and for years Hume had to sit there with a dumb look on his face when his colleagues would say no one has ever committed suicide the way Epstein did!?! So hilarious!!
Cite?
Oops, my shirt got stuck in the drain in the county jail cell…I’ll just have to tie it around my throat and alligator to get it unstuck!! My father is Brit Hu…. 😉
So you're saying Epstein killed himself, and Brother Bill and his pedo pals had nothing to do with it?
Who was president in 2005? Bush! Who was governor of Florida in 2005?? Bush! What president groped little girls?? Bush!
Letting the tax cuts expire is less harmful than blowing up the debt like this. Of course that's not the only choice but they will never cut enough spending to keep cutting taxes. The voters want their cake and Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security too. The Repubs also want to blow up/increase Pentagon spending which is already full of boondoggles.
Show me one time when increasing taxes actually led to reducing spending.
In 2017 you idiots said the same thing, that tax revenue would be decimated. You were wrong.
Under trumps first term prior to covid, 75% of spending growth was due to debt and entitlements. The latter can't be fixed under reconciliation. Source for this was Eric Boehm.
Spending explodes under democrats. And you demand to just match taxes to spending. Just like KMW and sarc. Bet you also bitch about tariffs despite the tax increase from not extending the cuts is 2x the estimates on tariffs lol.
Clinton jacked up taxes while slashing defense spending and created a budget surplus. Republicans freaked out and shoved Bush/Cheney down our throats in order to slash taxes and jack up defense spending.
You are Bush/Cheney, Shrike. The whole neocon experiment went over to the Democrats en masse. Every single Bush administration executive supported Kamala and the Democrats last year and Biden in 2020.
Trump just gave a speech in Saudi Arabia attacking Bush/Cheney!! Obama’s two biggest mistakes were appointing the Bush Republicans Comey and Gates. And Obama appointed those two out of respect for Republican senators having no idea that all of the Republican voters would turn against those senators in a few years. Obama didn’t realize how dumb you people are!! lol.
They're just as much creatures of the Uniparty as you are, fuckwit.
Trump just gave a speech in Saudi Arabia attacking Bush/Cheney!!
Trump gave thousands of speeches attacking Bush/Cheney, you ignorant fuck. His whole campaign in 2016 was about what a bloody waste of life and money Iraq and Afghanistan were and how the 2008 payouts never should have happened.
You and your party are the neocons and Better Business Bureau Republicans now. They're 100% nevertrumper DNC establishment behind Schumer, Joe, Pelosi and Kammy now.
Own your war Shrike.
Republicans in Congress voted Lizard Cheney into leadership in January 2021.
Letting the tax cuts expire would end up strangling restraining economic activity, thus reducing tax revenue. Only a Marxist scumbag, and/or an idiot would favor doing so.
Tax cuts degrade over 10 years…so you do what Obama and focus on the top rate. Obama got the deficit/GDP ratio to under 3% in 2014.
"Letting the tax cuts expire is less harmful than blowing up the debt like this."
Wow, look at all the "libertarians" for higher taxes here today. If the government takes more it will spend it properly this time for sure.
So you opposed Obama’s tax increase that strengthened the economy and reduced the deficit on moral grounds??
Yes, and it didn't strengthen the economy one iota, you fifty-centing fuck. Your going to have to try a little harder, politruk, if you want to play historical revisionism and memory holing here.
Obama’s last 3 years we averaged 2.5% GDP growth with below 3% deficit/GDP. And if you include 2017 it was the same. So Trump’s tax cuts started in 2018 and that was the year with almost 3% GDP growth…and yet deficit/GDP went up to 3.7% before heading to 4.6% with GDP falling back to 2.5%.
You got a cite and a link for that, fuckowitz?
Of course he doesn't. It's not true.
He never does. He’s as retarded as Sarc. Is he Sarc? Doesn’t matter. He just needs to be slapped down when he gets uppity.
FRED has deficit/GDP ratio.
We had a booming economy until Trump screwed it up by his mishandling of COVID. Much more so than Europe, which went into austerity mode and has been stagnating for 15 years.
Hey, dumbass, who did the lockdowns in various states? The answer, fucko, are the various blue state governors from Illinois to California to New York to Michigan to Minnesota.
Democrat governors did it! Republicans were pure as that snow I just pissed on.
You should really stop eating yellow snow.
It was 100% the governors and you lying fucks know it. I challenge you both to come up with one single lockdown Trump enacted.
You can't because it's not something that the feds could even do.
And when Trump tried to force governors to lift the lockdowns, you Nazi fucks lost your minds:
Trump wants to lift lockdowns. Other countries’ attempts show why the U.S. isn’t ready.
That's all on you two fascists.
No faggot. Democrat governors did most of that. Then Pelosi managed to shove that veto proof ‘’CARES Act’ down Trump’s throat.
So really, fuck you retard.
Pewosi bullied Trump!! And Bawney Fwank bullied Bush!! Why are Demoncraps so mean!!! 🙁
Next thing you know you'll be telling us how FDR'S Great Depression was even a bigger success than Obama's Great Recession. I'm sure Biden's Great Inflation was just economic strengthening and reduction in the deficit too. /s
It's amazing how everything sounds so good when everything is explained UPSIDE-DOWN from reality.
You still defend Bush/Cheney after all these years!?! You have the blood of 7000 soldiers on your hands…but they are going to see Jesus because they slaughtered innocent Muslims, right??
You're the Bushpig, Shrike.
I’m happy he won in 2004 so he owned everything and Obama got elected and ended up being a great president.
A great president who droned more people than anyone, including an American citizen who had not been convicted of any crime. Such a hero!
That great president who inflation adjusted spent more than Trumps term + Democrats COVID stimulus. Bankruptcy must be the 'Greatness' leftards speak of.
He handed off Trump a great situation…why would you care about anything else??
The [R] congress keeping Obama from bankrupting the nation is what got handed to Trump.
...UNTIL COVID and the [D] Governors shutting down the economy gave the [D] House an excuse to throw the Cares Act at him (last year).
As-if that wasn't enough borrowing/spending managed to pull a [D]-trifecta double-dip (ARP - Doubling the Cares Act Cost) + 4-Years of over $1T deficits spending $2T more than all-of (including the Cares Act) debt.
US Bankruptcy is 'Greatness' according to leftards.
The economy bottomed out in 1933. Had Hoover been re-elected, the US would likely have collapsed into anarchy.
Cite?
He pulled the cite out of his ass.
It’s what MSNBC tells him to say. I doubt he has any real thoughts of his own. He’s far too stupid for any real independent thought. Most democrats are.
That’s why they’re democrats.
That’s a new one.
Had Hoover been re-elected with an [R] Congress, the US would likely have escaped the Great Depression.
I find it amazing how much leftards just love to blame-shift all their economic disasters when every single massive disaster happens on their watch. "It wasn't us! (Great Depression) It wasn't us! (Great Recession) It wasn't us! (Great Inflation)" /s
FDR had 12-F'En Years to demonstrate a functional USA and the only function he demonstrated was the longest and worst depression the USA has ever seen.
Oh.. The Tariff cuts did expire. No worries. 🙂
Making America Great Again.....
It's amazing we're trying to be indoctrinated to hate that.
Says the guy who has said he refuses to learn about economics because it might make him lose faith in Trump.
With Bessent and Rubio it’s Make America Gay Again….Rubio goes to church five nights a week to pray the gay away…it doesn’t work. Shhhhhh
Nonsensical.
Bessent is the highest serving flamer in history!! He’s living a fairy life married to his Prince Charming with 2 test tube babies culled from hundreds of frozen embryos and inserted into an Indian surrogate!! Oops, I mean fairy tale life! 😉
Your keepers should put you to bed.
"Why don't you have more sympathy!!" (Pic related)
https://x.com/honestpollster/status/1924506764235469309
Sarcasmic and Shrike in the front row.
Eliminate the IRS. Get rid of income tax. I dont care what happens to the federal gov
Keep fighting the good fight!!
Says the dumb statist faggot.
I repeat: NOTHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT THE DEFICITS AND DEBT. They will continue to rise rapidly until the final financial and economic collapse. We are Thelma and Louise headed for the cliff, and it's too late to hit the brakes. No political process exists by which major spending cuts can be accomplished. The capacity to produce wealth to pay off the debt does not exist. THIS CANNOT BE FIXED.