Kat Rosenfield: Meet Joe Rogan's Dumbest Fans
The novelist and essayist attacked CNN's handling of Neil Young vs. Joe Rogan—and promptly drew the ugly ire of the podcaster's admirers!
On today's show, I talk with writer Kat Rosenfield, whose new mystery novel No One Will Miss Her has been nominated for an Edgar Allan Poe award, the highest honor in that genre.
She also authored a fantastic recent essay for Reason about the immense cultural staying power of The Matrix, the 1999 movie that introduced the concept of being red-pilled, or made aware of the dark ways the world and power really work. "It's hard to overstate the long-tail impact of The Matrix on popular and political culture," she writes. "It has left a vast imprint on everything from action movies to fashion to how we understand technology."
We talk about No One Will Miss Her, The Matrix, and the raging controversy she's found herself in after going on CNN to critique legacy media's attacks on podcaster Joe Rogan for spreading misinformation about Covid-19. Despite her critical comments about the way CNN and other outlets were demonizing Spotify and podcasting, rabid and profane Rogan fans started attacking Rosenfield as if she was sticking up for old media.
the folks who are still outraged about my CNN bit are uh really sending their best pic.twitter.com/NBgKxS8rrt
— Kat Rosenfield (@katrosenfield) February 2, 2022
The result is a dark—even dank—look at how rapidly discourse degenerates on social media. And a fun, rollicking conversation about if and when public discourse is going to improve any time soon.
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No wonder you fags were so butthurt over mean tweets.
Average tweets would have been ok.
>>On today’s show, I talk with writer Kat Rosenfield,
I bet I have better questions for Kat than you did.
Just to be clear, “would you like to sit on my lap,” is not an appropriate question.
Well we dodged a bullet there, then. Thanks for the heads up, Chuck.
lap, face… whatevs
Here are some incite fun questions for her:
How long can you stay on your knees?
Cowgirl or doggy?
Do you like to party?
If answering yes to the previous question, do you have a similarly attractive friend who would also like to party?
Spit or swallow?
Those are just a few.
Huh, how’d I miss this news: Omar dead.
Ilhan Omar? Say, wouldn’t that be gr… wait a second…
Does her husband/brother know?
The wrong Omar died!!
Hopefully she doesn’t have to dox people over stupid comments like ENB did.
She really did that?
Yup.
Wild.
https://leastdangerousblog.com/2017/07/30/of-sandwiches-and-civil-rights/
She’s not doing much to disprove the stereotype that feminist’s are humorless.
What do you call 100 armed feminists?
Militia Etheridge
What do you call 100 GOP males that can’t service their wives anymore?
Cuckservatives!
HaHaHa!
See the pattern here?
No.
But I can see that stick up your ass from here.
What do you call a pedophile posting child porn on a libertarian site?
Shrike.
How many conservatives does it take to suck a cock in an airport men’s room Larry Craig style?
Who knows? The GOP has never run out of Larry Craig dick-sucking types!
You think about GOP cock a _lot_, Larry Craig never call you back after the “date”?
Why did you change your name JesseAz?
Why did you change your name?
I’m curious too, Chumby. What happened to Buttplug #1 again?
Different person entirely. I’ve always had this name.
I’ve never changed my name or used socks shrike.
I have no need to run and hide like you, sarc, and others do.
How many Marxist faggots does it take to hide in a Chuck E Cheese restroom to rape a young boy?
Buttplug.
Try harder.
+1
I retold that joke and claimed it as my own.
Hardly Doxxing though. From a quick scan of that page it was retweeting a tweet on a public site in the dude’s own name.
Harmless one, at that.
Why the fuck is this worthy of that many words. Or any comment at all? Fucking twitters man. Bunch of people arguing about nothing 120 characters at a time.
She was called out by many libertarians for using her large Twitter presence to threaten the guys future job prospects. Over a joke. And she wasn’t joking in return.
Not sure why a need to defend it.
You realize that the blog you posted said exactly the opposite of the point you are making, right Jesse?
ENB didn’t doxx anyone. This snarky guy made a public joke, on his account that has his actual name. He doxxed himself.
Was she guilty of then trying to weaponize the cancel culture brigade to cancel a guy? Sure. That is worthy of criticism, but far less than the accusation that she doxxed him.
It still supports the point. She’s ultimately a cancel culture leftist bitch.
Hey, I know a fun game. Let’s troll twitter for randos making mean, personal attacks and write an article about each case.
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and make themselves a victim?
That’s too farfetched. Nobody wants to look like a victim nowadays.
It’s the whole point of the blog post.
Cite?
Specifically, she wasn’t trolling at all, and they went for the insulting replies within reading or comprehending what she said.
Like you did in the roundup this morning?
Cite?
This is worthy of a story? FFS.
That’s what happens when your whole personality is a leather jacket.
Maybe he can do a five minute video interview and turn it into a nine article exposé.
Emo Fonzie rocks that jacket though.
No one knew that the world was full of assholes before.
I’m wondering how many 3,000 word articles we could do on the hate tweets that *pulls random name out of grab bag* Glenn Greenwald gets.
Or Matt Taibbi, but that’s different because reasons.
Oh shit, don’t tell me you like that sordid lying piece of shit Taibbi.
Not as much as you like boys.
That’s a high bar.
Ugh. Taibbi is just awful.
Did you know he actually advised Democrats against going all in on #TrumpRussia and expecting Robert Mueller to haul Drumpf out of the White House in handcuffs? I bet he feels stupid now!
#MaddowWasRight
Have you ever seen Rachel Maddow sporting a strap-on?
You wouldn’t joke around if you have.
Why did you change your name?
“sordid lying piece of shit Taibbi”
I’ll bite.
What did Taibbi write that was sordid or lying, Shrike?
And no, heresy doesn’t count.
During the Bush Financial Collapse of 2008 he maintained that bank CEO’s like Dimon, Blankfein, and Corzine should be “locked up” without due process for normal bank activities.
Taibbi is another Putin dick-sucker like Trump is. He loves Russia and a strongman leader. Taibbi did live in Russia for several years.
And Taibbi loves Bernie Sanders – that idiot.
I really believe Taibbi is a communist although I can’t prove it.
Weird how you ignore how much Obama, Hillary and your atlantic council all love Russia.
WTF? They are all NATO, you idiot.
Yes. And they’ve pushed energy expansion from Russia through old bloc countries. Hillary and Obama gave Russia weapon tech at skolovo. All 3 support Nordstream 2. All were for disarmament of anti ballistic missile shield in Eastern Europe.
Do you even try to follow their actions or just repeat their lies?
You mean these guys?
Trustee Blames Corzine, Execs for MF Global’s Misuse of Client Funds: Wall Street Roundup
“James Giddens, the trustee, may pursue claims of “breach of fiduciary duty and negligence” against Mr. Corzine and other officials, charging that MF Global failed to improve controls to keep client funds safe to coincide with an increase in risk-taking, the Wall Street Journal reports.”
These crooks are the reason you think Taibbi is “sordid lying”? Are you sure it’s got nothing to do with the fact that Taibbi shits on your Nazi boss Soros and all his fascist pals?
“Putin dick-sucker like Trump is. He loves Russia and a strongman leader. Taibbi did live in Russia for several years.”
Your McCarthy-level red scares have no power here you stupid fuck. Go peddle that ridiculous discredited boogeyman to the wine moms and frightened boomers watching CNN.
Why are you so defensive about it?
Piss off, troll.
Can you provide a citation detailing the logic behind your premis?
Hey speaking of corporations making independent decisions without government interference.
“all major news sources, for that matter, be responsible and be vigilant to ensure the American people have access to accurate information on something as significant as COVID-19,” Psaki said Tuesday. “That certainly includes Spotify.”
Too bad it doesn’t also include the Democratic Party and the Biden administration.
Wasn’t this pretty much the plot of Private Parts?
Comparing the White House press conferences to a mafioso soliciting extortion payments has become cliché. They just don’t even bother to disguise the fact that they intend to extort corporations to further their agenda.
Every time the prior administration did it, there were a dozen opinion pieces the next day about how it was immoral, illegal and an assault on the 1st amendment. Now, just crickets. Seriously, people?
JOE ROGAN HAS MORE LISTENERS THAN MAJOR NETWORKS DO AND THEY’RE ALL STUPID DINKS!!!
Good thing John Oliver and Rachel Maddow have absolutely no cranks amongst their super fans.
Good thing John Oliver and Rachel Maddow have absolutely no
cranks amongst their superfans.FIFY
>rabid and profane Rogan fans started attacking Rosenfield as if she was sticking up for old media.
Is this your first week on the internet?
I mean this is the communication medium where people would tell you to kill yourself for posting a vertical video. And it’s pretty easy to pretend to be a Rogan fan, be a dick on the twitters, and thus make other podcast aficionados look similarly penile.
Just not sure why anyone takes “threats” or whatever on the internets seriously. It’s not the same as RealLife.
rabid and profane Rogan fans
I have caught this Rogan guy’s podcast a few times and he seems fairly innocuous unlike the real nutjobs on the right like Alex Jones, Fat Rush Limbaugh, et al.
Rogan doesn’t seem to preach to his audience.
Are any of you Peanuts big fans of his?
He has never had a pro pedophile psychologist on if that’s why you are asking.
You Denny Hastert GOP fags always blame others for your foibles.
Not very convincing, try again pervert.
Telling him to try again may make him think he can do some Jared LARPing.
But you Larry Craig GOP toe-tapping dick-suckers in airport men’s rooms are all here.
Nobody gives a shit if one man wants to suck off another man. The problem is the child rapey types.
Pedophilia and faggotry are your domain, not ours. Since YOU RAPE CHILDREN.
We will never let up in that. Ever.
I dont know why you deny your past. You like naked kids. You posted links on how to get pictures of such.
But you’re a Denny Hastert GOP boys in the shower faggot.
Don’t deny it.
You know that old saw folks? About lefties accusing everyone else of what they’re doing or are planning on doing?
Oh, Like no one accused me first?
You really are brain-dead.
I would love to go mano-mano with anyone here. I would win easily.
Because you did it.
1. We’re not lefties, and
2. You’ve already posted links to kiddie porn here, so it doesn’t take a genius to conclude that you’ve approached kids in the shower.
Be careful what you wish for. Pretty sure many people here would ,over a legal pretext and an opportunity to severely hurt you.
Cite? Because everyone here knows what you did. I’ve never had my account removed from reason. So cite on me ever discussing hastert?
I’ve had the same IP address since 2007, you moron.
No one from Reason cares.
Then post under your original account.
You have had the same static ip address since 2007 including the one assigned by your isp? I don’t believe you
The stupidest part is he expected us all to believe his IP stayed the same for 15 years.
I guess he’s more used to tricking kids than adults.
And probably dragging them. Also his tough talk doesn’t play well with adults.
Rogan isn’t nearly as libertarian as your favorite celebrities like Bill Maher and Howard Stern.
Please sign the MoveOn.org petition to kick him off Spotify.
#LibertariansForCancelCulture
Nah, but everything I’ve ever heard about him he sounds like a decent bro. At this point, Rogan is doing a better job representing the supposedly open minded spirit of the Sixties than Neil Young is.
Rogan doesn’t seem to preach to his audience.
What I said.
Just without and pedophillic overtones.
And to think you claimed you didn’t even know who he was just a few weeks back.
Another Liarson lie? What a surprise.
Fun fact, cases and deaths continue their upward spiral.
Feb 1 deaths/7 day average:
Deaths: 3582
7 day avg: 2670
The above is part of an UPWARD trend.
The below is part of a DOWNWARD trend:
The last time we were at or around this number was Feb 17th of last year (2021)
Deaths: 2471
7 day avg: 2709
Interestingly here’s the latest media reporting in my local daily:
Western Washington is seeing decreases in omicron-related coronavirus cases — a relief to hospitals. But the variant still has a firm hold east of the Cascades.
King County reports a case rate of about 1,963 per 100,000.
“This is what I affectionately call a ‘light at the end of the tunnel,’” state epidemiologist Dr. Scott Lindquist said Wednesday.
With no evidence of any new variants rapidly circulating throughout the state or an increase in cases, Lindquist said he’s comfortable categorizing the trend as a definite decrease in cases rather than a blip in numbers.
Still, the state is counting 50 to 70 deaths per day, even though the current death rate isn’t as high as it was during past surges involving other variants, he said.
Per this last part, I’m not sure what he means. No, it may not be at it’s highest. If you look at the Graph on Google, it’s clear we haven’t quite reached the Jan 2021 peak, but we are in the middle of an upward trend and if it continues apace, we will be there soon.
So what I can’t figure out is… why the sudden cautiously optimistic reporting? I’m honestly not sure.
I have a couple of theories.
1. There’s a sense of general ennui about the pandemic. Even though the numbers don’t look great, we’re reinterpreting them in the most positive light because experts are ‘looking for a way out’.
2. Health reporting in general is recognizing an unstated truth: Everyone knows the accounting methods are highly suspect, the numbers don’t tell the full story, and now they’re willing to report them with more nuance.
There was a third I was formulating, but I can’t quite articulate it because it sounds like something between 1 and 2. I dunno.
Curious what people’s thoughts are on this.
I fucked up the block quoting. Making it hard to see where my comment starts up again. Here’s the blockquote to help sort my comment out:
It’s all a fucking con to make us ever more reliant on Big Brother. They know they can only spin people up for so long before violence breaks out, so they have to back off the narrative every 6-8 weeks to give us a respite.
Come March, they will ramp up again to get everyone twitching once that new Omicron V hits the street. The Aged Drug Warrior is the biggest pusher of them all. Now who could have predicted that?
Not understanding your complaint. It was predicted, even in mainstream media, there would be an omicron surge, likely to subside quickly.
Yes, a very mild variant, for which the media and Donkey politicians went full lockdown/mandate as if it were the initial variant rather than the Xi variant. A less virulent virus and a more virulent government here, Canuckia, New Naziland, and Awfulstralia.
Let’s be honest they are all the Xi varient
Yes, and if you had read my complaint, you’d wonder why, based on the pure numbers which show we’re on the upward trend, closing on matching the peak in 2020, and now the media is taking a more nuanced approach, even saying “we’ve got light at the end of the tunnel”. I couldn’t have been more clear.
The change in tone while on a steep upward climb vs the tone when we were on both upward AND downward slopes is stark.
Umm, omicron is different than past variants. But you know that. Just seems like you spend your life nursing grievances.
Mike but you didn’t address what Diane was saying. So what about omicron being different; that’s a different discussion you could start if you want. Diane’s question is why is it positive reporting on the same death rate from a year ago and the current death rate is trending up? If you’d like to tie the different variant angle in it would be interesting how the same amount and trending up deaths is ok.
Show us the proof that it’s different? As u can’t prove the “main virus” ever actually existed.
The Phucko Knows
Cite?
To be clear, based on the direction the numbers are going, let alone where they currently sit, there should be a renewed national push to lock down, and lock down VERY hard.
Diane I also noticed this double speak – USA Today had a piece by Jerome Adams saying again the asymptomatic spread is an issue so me need kn95’s yet the CDC says if you live with someone that is symptomatic but you aren’t it’s ok to come to work. Which is it, there’s asymptomatic spread or there’s not?
Right-Wing Pastor Greg Locke Organizes ‘Massive’ Book Burning
BY ANDERS ANGLESEY ON 2/1/22 AT 10:41 AM EST
https://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-pastor-greg-locke-organises-massive-book-burning-1674983
Another conservative burning books.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
This is like infinity times worse than when our progressive allies burned Harry Potter books. Because they did it for a good reason — JK Rowling is a transphobe.
#LibertariansForBookBurning
#(WhenAppropriate)
Why, it is almost like you are equating crazy GOP wingnuts with Moonbat progs!
Once again, we are in full agreement with our disgust for both aforementioned parties.
1. Isn’t the Global Bible Vision Church the same denomination as Landover Baptist? Who are you trying to kid.
2. They apparently haven’t burned anything yet. You know who has actually burned books. You guys.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-school-board-regrets-burning-books-in-the-name-of-reconciliation-as-part-of-educational-program-1.5580647
Bet you showed TinTin and Dr. Seuss who’s boss.
3. Your parody church is threatening to burn Harry Potter books. How is that different from last week when you guys were threatening to burn Harry Potter books because JK Rowling is an evil transphobe or something?
4. Is this a lame-ass distraction attempt from the fact that your boss George is trying to get Rogan’s podcasts burned?
It was a planned event! BEHIND THE PIGGLY WIGGLY! IS NOTHING SACRED?!!
Are you mistaking that char-grilling of a porkloin for book burning? Why I never!!
The thing that pisses me of about the jk rolling crap, is that she is not anti trans. She is straight up live and let live, a trans woman is a trans woman. And the activists can’t have that, if you are not 100% in their camp then you are evil
Then we need to burn down their camp with them in it. There is no living with them. So perhaps they shouldn’t live.
So let me see if I have this straight…
Newsweek learns that a rattlesnake-handling pastor who lives in the Holler, organizes a book burning in a vacant lot behind the old Piggly Wiggly.
Newsweek also knows that the White House is directly calling on the world’s largest communication multi-national corporation to silence and censor the scientific opinions of some of the world’s top virologists, epidemiologists or anyone that says “I think these cloth masks, they might not be 100% effective”, and Newsweek chooses story A as the biggest threat to the fabric of American Democracy.
Mmmkay. Sure. Uh huh.
Why yes. Thank you for actually reading and comprehending – unlike the other idiots here.
To reply, the idiot snake handlers/Christians actually outvote science fans about 20-1.
From the caliber of your posting over the years I’d say even the most backwoods of idiot snake handlers/Christians have a better handle on science and engineering than you do, Shrike.
I despise Christians/Muslims.
They both hate liberty, they hate democracy in favor of the Bible/Koran (same shit), hate women, hate gays, hate us libertines, and hate America.
You love pedophiles. Why don’t you like Muslims?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/man-convicted-abusive-sexual-contact-minor-quantico
LOLOLOLOLOL
Not one of your better efforts, Impostor Buttplug.
Real Buttplug literally spent 8 years praising Barack Obama, a Christian, on a daily basis. He wouldn’t be stupid enough to forget hundreds of instances of HEY PEANUTS CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW AMAZING THIS OBAMA ECONOMY IS WARREN BUFFETT’S NET WORTH WENT UP THIS WEEK by implying he “despises” the President who created the strongest economy ever. (Until Joe Biden, another Christian, surpassed it.)
#ParodyShouldBeSomewhatRealistic
Damn it, you are correct. I hate to admit such.
I did praise Barack Obama and his unique inclusive form of Christianity.
Obama wasn’t one of the “you motherfuckers are gonna fry in Hell” Christians.
Now explain your oedophilia.
Pedo
Your bigotry has been noted and reported.
By your fruits we have known you, and you are rotten to the core.
Christian = Muslim.
Same shit – different noun.
By that logic, since every communist country was officially atheist;
Atheism = Communism
Same shit – different noun, right?
How this child raping commie scumbag remains unmurdered astounds me. He must be completely servile in person.
I listened to the full clip that she, herself, posted on twitter. It’s no wonder people thought she was attacking Joe Rogan and his audience.
“Rogan is like a weed that sprang up outside the mainstream media ecosystem, and he thrived there, and he has this huge audience, and that’s what really scary. It’s that Spotify could kick him off tomorrow and it wouldn’t make a dent. It wouldn’t make a dent in his audience and people would still listen to him, and crucially, they still wouldn’t trust more mainstream media sources.
And I think that’s what’s really, really frightening to people.
The other panelist talks about how people can eat Doritos without thinking it’s healthy, but when they listen to Rogan, they actually believe they’re getting good and true information, and what you do in response to that.
“Uhm, ultimately I just think it comes down to the question of how you want to solve this. And that’s sort of where the analogy comes in. You know, here’s people who, you know, they like something that we-who consider ourselves more enlightened-uhm, don’t think is good for them. We think that they’re internalizing this information, that they’re using this to make bad decisions.
But if you took away Joe Rogan by deplatforming him, just as if you took away Doritos, would they seek out better information? Would they seek out a podcast like, you know, New York Times’ ‘The Daily’? Would they start reading The Wall Street Journal? I don’t know, I think that’s sort of the fundamental question here.
Yeah, no wonder people think she came off as demeaning and insulting to Joe Rogan’s listeners. It’s not even about choosing words poorly, it’s that you clearly were taking the perspective of “These people are wrong and what are we supposed to do about it?”
Edit; apparently you can’t carry the italic styles across paragraphs. But the phrase
“And I think that’s really, really frightening to people.”
Those are her words. Also she spoke the paragraph:
“But if you took away Joe Rogan by deplatforming him, just as if you took away Doritos, would they seek out better information? Would they seek out a podcast like, you know, New York Times’ ‘The Daily’? Would they start reading The Wall Street Journal? I don’t know, I think that’s sort of the fundamental question here.”
The other panelist talks about how people can eat Doritos without thinking it’s healthy, but when they listen to Rogan, they actually believe they’re getting good and true information
Surprise! A person who is clearly really shitty at critical thinking thinks that everyone is shitty at critical thinking.
People listen to NPR to get good and true information. They listen to Joe Rogan to be entertained. I fear for the planet, because the sheer weight of all that irony could very well collapse into a black hole.
I don’t listen to Joe Rogan but I assume there’s actually some good information that comes from his show. I always assumed he was a vehicle for his guests, and his thing was “I’m just a normal guy so let’s just talk plainly.” That can lead to plenty of guests who can be informative, right? Or is that not his thing?
You are correct. His talent on the show is making the guests comfortable and keeping a good conversation going. Being honest, the show is at its worst when he gets too deep into monologuing his own opinions (even when I agree with him.) He isn’t a dumb guy, but he also isn’t very well informed on the subjects many of his “controversial” guests bring up. Probably half of the episodes host your typical celebrities.
There are several episodes that heavily discuss dmt and some sort of purple lady goddess. Things are allowed to be informative even if they aren’t verifiably factual. Shouldn’t an intelligent person be looking deeper into statements from from both “mainstream” authorities as well as dissenting authorities such as those on his show?
People listen to NPR to get good and true information
Man, are they in for some surprises!!
I only occasionally listen to Rogan when he has an especially interesting guest or just not interested in the rest of my podcast rotation that day. I recall from listener metrics that he tends to attract a lot of younger listeners who could easily be some variety of cultists.
Alternatively, I tend to listen to it for the stories people tell and interesting perspectives. If an argument is persuasive enough then I might accept it or research on my own. It is also possible to project this mentality on the majority of Rogan listeners.
What is so weird to me is that his podcast isn’t a news program. He and his guests are frequently unaware of all sorts of common news stories. It is basically a casual and conversational long-form interview program. I still haven’t listened to the episode with Mallone. The last episode I listened to was Carrot Top, whom I surprisingly found really likeable. It’s entertainment from which a person can glean all sorts of ideas and information (much of which is useless.)
Show us the proof that it’s different? As u can’t prove the “main virus” ever actually existed.
The Phucko Knows
It is frightening. A lot of people don’t want to be informed, they want to have their feelings validated.
That’s a good description of yourself.
in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal, Twitter and Facebook were awash with complaints not only about about sexual harassers and assaulters, but also about ghosters, bad daters and poor sexual partners. One woman I knew from university took to the internet to slam her postman, who had the audacity to praise her manicured feet while delivering her parcels.
And I thought I was just making a joke about Cuomo being persecuted for leering at a woman’s ankles instead of being hung from a lamppost over killing old people and covering it up.
On the vaccine for children under five:
“We know that kids are less likely to get severely ill or hospitalized, they absolutely CAN get severely ill, pass on covid to others, get long covid and more, so it’s important we protect them.”
That was the collection of words and syllables that were just uttered by a ‘trusted’ scientist on ABC News.
“Yeah, let’s talk about that third shot, because trials expanded to three doses could we see the recommendation change from two to three doses for children under five…”
These people are fucking cult.
Shrike is interested in hearing more about these kids under five.
Here’s a real scientist on this whole kerfuffle.
I never thought I’d be thankful for YouTube comments, but the top one nails it:
————-
“What should parents know now?”
That you can’t even sue these companies for what they’re forcing onto you.
Trudeau claims truckers only hate him because he’s black.
Kinda relieved that the link sent me to the bee. I was a little scared that it was actually said sarcastically or even worse: sincerely.
NICK GILLESPIE GASLIGHTS FOR REASON’S FEM BRIAN-STELTER. Kat Rosenfield did not defend Rogan. She joined in the attack with the CNN mob. She tries to claim that she was “too subtle” and “too dry,” but tone-deaf and inarticulate is what I heard. I followed the linked segment provided here by Reason, and I heard a woman joining in on the censorship parade. Nick is gaslighting us by pretending that her appearance was a defense of Rogan. It wasn’t. And Gillespie sounds a lot like Obama in his white-knight defense of this oh-so-nuanced scribbler who is so nuanced and subtle that she said the opposite of what Gillespie wants us to believe. Listen to the link. She calls Rogan’s listeners “scary” because he has an audience. Stelter and company agree with her. She posits the question “How do you want to ‘solve'” the horror of Rogan. She bemoans that his listeners would follow him anyway. She has a future as a CIA redactor, and no amount of Gillespie Gaslighting can make us pretend she was somehow defending Rogan. Next time she should be clear and concise instead of groveling and agreeable with the censorship clowns she so well mimicked.
So Joe brings on the guy that helped invent the mRNA shot. That guy then tells everyone about the problems with that shot…. And now HE is dispensing “miss information”. But Faucci.., who lies everything he opens his pie hole.., is the arbitrator of truth. Holy shit…. There r so many jackasses in the world.
The Phucko Knows
Something about glass houses and stones, Kat and Nick.