Rachel Laudan: Why Thanksgiving Dinner Is Served All at Once
The Cuisine and Empire author dishes on the anti-French origins of Turkey Day, why she hates "organic" food, and the genius of Julia Child.

Have you ever stopped to think about why all the food at the traditional Thanksgiving dinner gets put out at the same time? No courses and no servers—just a culinary dump of turkey and all the fixings onto the table and an ensuing feeding frenzy.
As food historian Rachel Laudan explains, both what gets eaten at Thanksgiving and how it gets served is no accident. When Thanksgiving became a national holiday back in 1863, the Cuisine and Empire author says, its creator explicitly conceived of the day as a repudiation of European customs, particularly those steeped in class-based French origins. Sarah Josepha Hale designed the standard Thanksgiving meal as an affirmation of our (small "r") republican virtues. Turkey was cheap to procure, pumpkin pie was easy to make, and cranberry sauce was a simple take on the fancy toppings typical in a French court.
The meaning of Thanksgiving has changed over the years—thanks in part to Julia Child's successful effort to democratize French cuisine—but even today, "nobody suggests adding truffles to your turkey," says Laudan, who wrote about the politics of Thanksgiving for the Boston Globe.
Back in 2016, Nick Gillespie interviewed Laudan about the meaning of Thanksgiving, why she is not a fan of "organic" food, and other aspects of culinary history. It's a great conversation that is every bit as filling as Thanksgiving—and a lot less coma-inducing—and Reason is happy to share it again on the eve of Thanksgiving in 2021.
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And no French fries either.
Giving up fried potatoes is a hell of a sacrifice. Do we do an anti-French and rename them?
Freedom fries?
Vlaamse Frites? They're done way better in Belgium anyway.
Whatever. I'm too lazy to make them for Thanksgiving, I just do smashed potatoes and make plenty of turkey gravy.
Fauci fries. The potatoes include a genetic modification to produce an edible covid vaccine. Without 100% vaccination, humanity is tatering on extinction.
If everyone doesn’t take the vaccine we might suffer another potato famine.
- Anthony Fauci
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Where on Earth did you get, "Britain expropriating food from Ireland ..."?!?!
Did you mean, "Ireland EXPORTING food to the rest of Britain (Ireland was part of Great Britain/United Kingdom at the time) as a Cash Crop"?
I hear you describe yourself as "Irish" with ancestors coming from Ireland in the 1910s -- which probably explains it! I note that some states teach kids that the Potato Famine was "genocide" by the British -- something certainly NOT taught in Ireland itself, but something unique to "Irish-Americans" who have a uniquely exaggerated sense of "historical oppression", COMPLETELY out of proportion to historical FACT.
Has it not occurred to you that the nuns & priests who taught you "history" are exactly the SAME PEOPLE who lied and lied and lied to you over the years about: child rape; imprisonment and forced labor of unmarried mothers; forced adoption; "evil" gays & lesbians; "evils" of divorce;
obedience to priests and nuns; etc etc etc?
It is a complete MYTH that the rest of Britain emptied Ireland of food during the Famine. In fact, before the Famine, the South of Ireland relied, entirely, on food exports to GB for most employment and its finances. Along the East Coast were large commercial farms producing crops for the GB market, with an efficient road network connecting farms to the major ports "facing" GB.
Internally, however, ancient, traditional & Catholic inheritance practices resulted in families owning smaller and smaller plots of land -- often separated by miles of dirt tracks -- rather than roads. The ONLY crop to produce enough calories for a family from such small plots was potato -- so inland from the East Coast all the way to the West Coast, people relied solely on the potato crop for over 80% of their calories.
When the Famine hit, no one was prepared, the entire crop failed and rotted, almost overnight!
Since there were no decent roads inland and West, food relief could take up to two WEEKS to reach across country -- by which time, and Ireland's wet weather, it had often rotted away.
Contrary to the propaganda, there was a HUGE relief effort from the rest of GB. From being a large food exporter, Ireland rapidly became a large food IMPORTER. Yes, some, more expensive produce continued to be supplied to GB -- the money from these "high value" exports paid for a much greater volume of "lower value" but much more essential basic foods to the needy.
However, the sheer magnitude of food relief required, for so many millions of people -- and so SUDDENLY -- meant that it was simply impossible to import enough food, quickly enough, to prevent a terrible famine.
Certainly, there was incompetence, a failure to appreciate the magnitude of the famine, and a failure to respond quickly enough. But the idea of "genocide" was a political invention, many decades later, stirred up as a propaganda tool in the campaign for independence.
For exampke, I have been told -- by several different "Irish-Americans", that Queen Victoria gave £5 to an animal charity but only 5 shillings to Irish Famine Relief. IN FACT, Victoria donated (in modern terms) about $400,000 of her personal money. Contrary to popular imagination, in fact a British monarch is nowhere near as wealthy as people assume -- and $400,000 would have been a very significant proportion of her income for the entire year.
If Victoria HAD been so utterly heartless, she would hardly have been greeted by such huge cheering crowds in Dublin, when she visited in 1897, to celebrate her Diamond Jubilee (60 years on the throne).
All I ask of "Irish Americans" is to reevaluate what the extremely biased priests and nuns taught you, AND reconsider the propaganda you were fed by overly romantic or dramatised tales of "oppression" and "freedom fighting".
Read, for example, the history of the Famine by Ireland's greatest living writer, Colm Toíbin, for a more considered and far, far more faithful history of the Famine!
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Why Thanksgiving Dinner Is Served All at Once
- white supremacy?
- patriarchy?
- systemic racism?
My belief is that those in the monocle class began this tradition. They feared that having their servants participate in bringing out the food and clearing the plates, for a holiday that involves themes like giving thanks and sharing, the servants may believe they are entitled to a share of the feast. To avoid this situation, which could lead to a servant rebellion, they dismissed the servants during this holiday. And seeing as the monocle class are incapable of complex tasks, they serve all the food at once. Thus the tradition of Thanksgiving being a one course meal was established.
There are more than two courses to a meal. Meal service is more of a spectrum of courses.
French Service are meals served by the course and portioned by the plate.
Russian service is food passed around the table for guests to take what they want.
I think that, if you were to look at peasants in France, no one was bringing out dinner to them in courses. This is not a tribute to republicanism, but rather a recognition that not all of us have servants.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1463539499397431306?t=4ZJPwHHn_J59O4fF24O88g&s=19
In addition to not buying a turkey and asking friends and family to chip in and pay, a great way to save money on Thanksgiving dinner is to make family take a rapid test and wait in the garage till their cleared to enter.
Poe's law on this one?! lol
These people. Christmas shouldn't have presents, and if you get mad about supply chain problems you are just a greedy capitalist pig. Dont have a Turkey on thanksgiving. In fact, best to maybe not do thanksgiving or christmas due to the lambda kappa COVID variant, just to be safe.
They really cannot see at all that they have overplayed their hand and everyone knows it
"My family will have an #emptychair at our Thanksgiving table this year. ????????
Not because we lost someone to cancer or trauma. Or violence or war.
But because we lost someone to #misinformation.
Only the vaccinated may attend for safety. Many families will feel this pain. ???? https://t.co/ahqi1hbm3c"
You can save a lot of money on Thanksgiving by being a sanctimonious asshole.
And every Thanksgiving thereafter.
sanctimonious zealot
Be fair. No family members ever died before COVID.
Good point and I should! Drunk uncle Stew just paralyzed some folks driving home.
If misinformation were deadly, we'd have a real pandemic on our hands.
It has gone viral.
14 days in the garage if you bust the test.
To be fair even the other liberals laughed at her.
If she wants suspicious residues on her food and in her soil, that is her choice. But to be laudan clear, I do not.
Organic food has poo on it.
Why is Thanksgiving dinner served all at once?
Because it's not.
This is idiotic.
Some people do a food dump on the table, others do a buffet, others have courses. Quite a few have courses and/or dishes that reflect ancestral cultures.
No one was taking pot-shots at Euro culture when Thanksgiving was formalized.
The menu was 'designed' as a faux pilgrim/indian meal.
But it didn't stay that way for long.
Are you suggesting that only a turkey would believe this hypothesis, with supporters hoping we butter nut squash their narrative?
Oooh, making mincemeat of her arguments!
It was easy as pie.
No skin off my nose.
Of the veritable cornucopia of hypotheses, this one is a side of brussel sprouts.
You're making a turkey in the strawman argument.
You can just stuff it with that attitude.
You've bean dipping into the sauce again.
I consider stealing a piece of the skin while the turkey is being carved as the first course.
You really enjoy beating the stuffing out of her argument.
stealing a piece of the skin
Ah, so honoring Native American traditions rather than thumbing your nose at European ones.
You cultural appropriator.
No one was taking pot-shots at Euro culture when Thanksgiving was formalized.
Funny, there is no Antifa or BLM, but apparently circa 1863 a committee of card-carrying members came together and imposed formal procedures on how Thanksgiving is conducted.
Today in libertarian commentary.
I don't agree with his point about people not getting it being wrong, he could have left that part out this article otherwise a good article. What about previously having it, I'm not sure from the Europe side if that's considered vaxxed because as I read many times they seem to consider past infection in many places as being done with it.
I don't agree with his point about people not getting it being wrong
I feel like a lot of people's Mothers failed them by saying "If all your friends jumped off a bridge..." rather than "If it were a social norm to jump off bridges..." No, refusing to take the same risks that everyone else just assumes isn't necessarily anti-social behavior/not all social behavior is inherently good.
As the nation's best known libertarian publication should be hammering on this every day. We are watching the death of liberal democracy in real time. Australia, New Zealand, Asia and most of Europe have become full blown dictatorships. If Biden gets his way we will be next. This is by far the biggest threat to individual liberty in my 65 year lifetime.
Reason should be...
They worked hard for this. There will be no mean tweets in the camps.
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More libertarian commentary.
Now THIS is how it's done.
Wow an article in Reason and not one mention of Trump. Probably in the podcast.
“Would you like dressing? Mashed potatoes?”
“Both sides please.”
You're an idiot. Clearly, choosing not to participate in Thanksgiving at all is the morally superior option.
That won't be an option in the future. Thanksgiving will be declared racist, anti-trans and fattening.
If you take a knee at home during the national anthem for all 3 of the football games, you are allowed to enter a lottery whereby the government selects who may have a turkey the following year.
What about trans fat?
Was turkey all that affordable back then or was it considered a delicacy for a feast?
In Dicken's a Christmas Carol Turkey was depicted as more expensive than a goose, ( exact opposite today). I' ve seen Turkey prices back in the fifties that would cost $10 a lb. in today's prices. Also does anyone eat venison for Thanksgiving? That was the original Roast Beast. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
America bucked the trend and no longer eats venison on Thanksgiving.
Takes a lot of Doe to get venison. I'll save my bucks.
Guess you don’t fawn over it.
I’ll be going stag this year.
Turkeys are native to the Americas, not Britain. Durned wild birds are a traffic hazard in the Northeast, where housing is too dense to hunt the flockers. I got a "free" 26 lber through the loyalty points on my supermarket card. It is defrosting, but no way it'll be ready for the oven tomorrow. I have some ground turkey, and may make a "poulter's pie." The family isn't getting together for a second consecutive year, for pandemic reasons. Everybody is healthy and vaccinated, but still being ultra-careful. I would have risked a train ride, but the usual hosts put the kibosh on a gathering. We'll have an alternate turkey roast once that fat bird is ready to cook. I did have turkey pepperoni on home-made pizza tonight.
Thank God the "no courses" tradition for Thanksgiving dinner has been explained to me, I'm always a bit bumfuzzled when the holiday rolls around and then - Bam! - my wife isn't serving the traditional 7-course meal for dinner. "What the hell is wrong with this lazy slag?" I wonder, "Where the hell is my larks' tongues, wrens' livers and chaffinch brains firsts? My jaguars' earlobes, my wolf nipple chips, and dromedary pretzels for seconds? My palate-cleansing Tuscany fried bats for betweens?" Then it hits me, it's Thanksgiving, the servants have been given the day off, there's not even a single wench there to peel me a grape and I've got to go get my own goddamn heroin for my speedball like some kind of fucking peasant.
Nothing says suffering like getting unpeeled grapes. I weep for you.
There is a raisin why grapes have skin.
Did the Grinch steal Thanksgiving too?
Interesting considering bringing out all the food at once is actually called service à la française, as opposed to a series of courses, or service à la russe.