Scott Horton: U.S. Should Have Pulled Out Of Afghanistan Years Ago

The Enough Already: Time To End the War on Terror author on fixing foreign policy in the Joe Biden era.

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Scott Horton: U.S. Should Have Pulled Out Of Afghanistan Years Ago

Was President Joe Biden's withdrawal of United States troops and personnel from Afghanistan a poorly planned mistake or a long-overdue decision?

Scott Horton says it's the latter. He's the head of the Libertarian Institute, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, and the host of the Scott Horton Show podcast. Based in Austin, Texas, Horton is also the author of the new book Enough Already: Time To End the War on Terrorism.

Nick Gillespie talks with him about Biden's defense of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, why U.S. foreign policy has been a bipartisan disaster for all of the 21st century, and how a libertarian approach to both domestic and foreign affairs would make people better off all over the globe.

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[Longtobefree]

The democrats have never had a foreign policy.
You can't fix what doesn't exist.

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[Dillinger]

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[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1428069253563908099?t=oJ3f10HgvQAJFkaYCQOaYw&s=19

Americans are trapped in Afghanistan and Wendy Sherman is recalling her personal trips to Kabul working with women.

[Weigel's Cock Ring]

Did you see where the State Department has been replying with e-mails and text messages to all Americans still there who have reached out to them that basically says "Please make your way to the airport, however we can't guarantee your safety. You're on your own, good luck to you."

No matter how stupid and misguided this nation-building effort may have been from the beginning, that is (or should be) appalling to every American who has even an ounce of patriotism and basic decency in them. That is sickening.

[diWhite Knightoxide]

Babylon Bee: Americans Stranded In Afghanistan Decline Chance To Fly Home On Spirit Airlines

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[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1427929346262642688?t=ddqCP2msUulvuzHG8mCo_Q&s=19

Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war" #Afghanistan [video]

[BigT]

No, that may have been a goal for some contractors, but very few. Even heartless contractors understand that people getting killed is bad for business.

[Nardz]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-refutes-chinese-reports-us-prepared-abandon-taiwan-just-afghanistan

At a moment China's military is holding extensive drills that include submarines, aircraft, and warship maneuvers near Taiwan - and as the world beholds this week's chaos unfold in the wake of a botched US evacuation from Kabul - the White House has been prompted by shaken allies in Taipei to address its "commitments" in the region.

A Tuesday statement vowing unwavering support to Taiwan's autonomy and democracy also comes as Chinese state media and officials essentially gloat over America's Afghan failure and subsequent retreat. "We believe that our commitments to our allies and partners are sacrosanct and always have been," National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan told a press briefing.

[Commenter_XY]

Communist China will move on Taiwan. There can be no doubt about that. Japan and Australia are also talking openly and candidly about the malign influence of communist China. We have to get ready to go to war.

And our Nat Sec team is just pathetic, from POTUS Biden on down. They just suck.

[Mickey Rat]

The way this turned out has made the possibility of a much more dangerous crisis greater.

[Chumby]

How many Toyota Tacoma’s can the Chinese army field?

[E Ray]

Plenty of neocons in here tonight.

[Nardz]

Media matters really scraping the bottom of their leftist barrel

[NOYB2]

Communist China will move on Taiwan. There can be no doubt about that. Japan and Australia are also talking openly and candidly about the malign influence of communist China. We have to get ready to go to war.

Why do "we have to"? Why not just let China do whatever China is going to do and keep out of it?

You don't seriously believe China could actually govern Japan, Taiwan, and Australia?

[BigT]

Govern? No, suppress, enslave, exploit. These places don't have armed populations. Who is going to stop them?

[Bruce D]

Yes. By brutal force.

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1428076333242847233?t=wAOCrucFhe_DeCGx69_eow&s=19

Gen. Mark Milley: "There was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse of this army and this government in 11 days." [Video]

[Mickey Rat]

Really, nothing? Maybe he should have been into what was actually going on with his job instead of being concerned about learning about white privilege.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland]

So he didn't listen to Ron Paul in 05?

[Fats of Fury]

Thoroughly modern Milley is running out of space to hang ribbons on himself. The last one will say continued on back.

[JesseAz]

He was blinded by white rage and never saw it coming.

[Chumby]

Biden said that he was told of a possible Taliban overthrow of the puppet government but it didn’t pass his sniff test.

[ElvisIsReal]

Now tonight he said it was always going to be chaotic and he knew that.

[Chumby]

He did do any planning so of course.

Delaware State Joe Flacco was not an elite quarterback.

State of Delaware Joe Biden is not an elite politician.

[BigT]

"it didn’t pass his sniff test."

Can you sniff a woman's hair under a burka or hajib? Biden must have a bloodhound's nose.

[Overt]

"There was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse"

Then he didn't do his fucking job. That is all there is to it. We paid him to know basic shit like "did I actually train this army to fight in battles, as ordered by the commander and chief".

To say there was "nothing I...saw" means that he wasn't fucking looking. Unless he is going to try and make the argument that it was impossible to know. I know he won't make that argument, because he understands that he is a VERY convenient scapegoat for an anxious media right now.

[Nardz]

The British and French can go out into Kabul and rescue their people sheltering in place then bring them back to the airport for evacuation, but there's nothing the US can do for Americans in the same situation...

[tlapp]

I knew a young man that was a Marine who served there. He was training them and said 7 years ago they would surrender 2 weeks after they left. He originally thought the Marines would be his career and then saw what a waste and got out.
A great young man now working as a Paramedic where he can truly save lives.

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1428090180330741762?t=OsY2Rk0i5se9tVu3pZToMw&s=19

JUST IN - Biden’s State Department moved to cancel a State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months prior to the fall of #Kabul, according to a new report.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland]

From the article
"the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR) – also referred to in overlap with a predecessor/partner bureau called “OpMed” is described as a “little-known team of medics and miracle workers—hidden deep within the U.S. Department of State.”

They clearly saw a bad moon rising.

[Dead inside]

Joe will be cremated with the Olympic torch (being dead for 6yrs) and Kamala will give the opening blow jobs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/p6vcft/real_life_aladeen/

[Christina]

Nice info

[Ragnarredbeard]

No shit, Sherlock Horton, we should have left the week after we failed to get Bin Laden in his cave.

[Nardz]

Joe's going back in vacation, but to Delaware this time

[bill steigerwald]

It's both: a 19-year-overdue exit from Afghanistan and a total botched evacuation job by addled Joe Biden and the current team of amateur generals and state department brats. The evacuation of Kabul is actually a perfect metaphor for the last half century of our failed bipartisan interventionist foreign policy that has given us a series of unnecessary wars and foolish global social engineering projects. Ron Paul, high school libertarian kids and Cato guys like Ted Galen Carpenter told us to get out of Afghanistan long ago: https://clips.substack.com/p/afghanistan-was-always-a-stupid-tragic

[NOYB2]

Was President Joe Biden's withdrawal of United States troops and personnel from Afghanistan a poorly planned mistake or a long-overdue decision?

That is what is known as a "false dichotomy".

[BigT]

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