Eviction Moratorium Madness

The Reason Roundtable discusses property rights, vaccine passports, and media ethics.

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Eviction Moratorium Madness

The Reason Roundtable sounds various alarms at the Biden administration's capricious re-upping of the scientifically unsound, pragmatically bass-ackward, and philosophically rotten eviction moratorium. Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Peter Suderman, and Nick Gillespie also talk about the awfulness of vaccine passports, the permanence of "temporary" government programs, and other contemporary irritants.

Discussed in the show:

1:09: The eviction moratorium is bad, mmkay? We explain all the reasons why, while trying to limit instances of the word Constitution to like, seven.

32:15: Weekly Listener Question: I just heard about NPR's new ethics policy. My first thought was, they are throwing objectivity out the window. But my second thought was that they are just throwing out the *illusion* of objectivity that many of us didn't believe anyway. What say you, oh, Roundtablites?

43:23: Vaccine passports are bad, mmkay? We discuss the tech snafus, the privacy concerns, and the unrequited Blue State lust for lockdownery.

56:05: Weekly media recommendations.

This week's links:

• "Biden Admits New CDC Eviction Moratorium Runs Counter to 'the Bulk of the Constitutional Scholarship,'" by Damon Root
• "After Claiming It Didn't Have the Power To Impose a New Eviction Moratorium, the Biden Administration Imposes a New Eviction Moratorium," by Christian Britschgi
• "The Third Amendment Lawyers Association (ÞALA) Opposes Eviction Moratorium," by Eugene Volokh
• "The Deeply Flawed Studies Behind the Eviction Moratoriums," by Aaron Brown and Justin Monticello
• "The Victims of the Eviction Moratorium," by Jim Epstein

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Audio production by Ian Keyser
Assistant production by Regan Taylor
Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve

What are we consuming this week?

Matt Welch

• Unforgiven

Nick Gillespie

• Leave Society, by Tao Lin

Katherine Mangu-Ward

• The Family Firm: A Data-Driven Guide to Better Decision Making in the Early School Years, by Emily Oster

Peter Suderman

• The Suicide Squad

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Comments

[mad.casual]

Rather interesting to hear Mangu-Ward state that objectivity as a policy is untennable and even more brilliant [sarc] to hear Nick go on to say "Objectivity is bullshit. Fairness is the goal." nonsense. Says a lot that Suderman was the most lucid with "Transparency and accuracy should supercede objectivity."

[mad.casual]

And, in the vein of objectivity, transparency, and accuracy; the correct spelling of 'lockdownery' is 'oppression'.

[Earth Skeptic]

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[Don't look at me!]

I expected more outrage over the maskless decadence that was the Obama birthday bash.
I guess they can get away with anything.

[Moonrocks]

Why would there be outrage? The sophistication of that crowd shields them from the covid miasma and thus typical enforcement measures were unnecessary.

[Earth Skeptic]

Only little people follow rules.

[Chumby]

A perfect crease in the pants protects one against covid.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

If everyone would just obey, none of these measures would be necessary.

[Earth Skeptic]

If Robin Hood had a cunt, it would look like Chuck Schumer.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

The long march on the institutions being largely complete, the short march on the People begins.

Tens of thousands of Washington state employees will be required to receive COVID-19 vaccinations or face firing, according to a sweeping mandate announced Monday by Gov. Jay Inslee.

Build your own government.

[Vulgar Madman]

It’s nasty work. Americans have done it before though.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

I am struggling to see the downside here.
Do the unvaccinated have a right to a government job?

[Don't look at me!]

Does anyone?

[Mother's Lament]

Just as much as any other citizen. Sometimes you remind me of Squealer on Animal Farm.

[Gwenda Lafortune]

Certainly not! The only people with a right to a government job are the TRUSTED PROFESSIONALS teaching 5 year old children that their destinies are predetermined by their skin color.

[Chumby]

Hopefully at least a few belong to recognized religious groups that oppose this.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

What is the employment model that you support, as far as public sector employees go?

If you favor at-will employment, then this turn of events should hardly be a surprise. Employers can fire employees for any reason they want. Some governor firing employees who aren't vaccinated is just one of many reasons, legitimate or not, for a governor to fire some public-sector employee somewhere.

But if you think that there ought to be some limits to at-will employment, then what should those limits be, and who enforces those? Should the government set those limits? Should the government enforce those limits? What has happened previously is that the employees themselves - in what is called a union - has negotiated limits on the power of employers to set their working conditions. But since these are public-sector employees, their union is a - gasp - PUBLIC SECTOR UNION - which we have all been told is the mark of Satan himself and should be opposed with every fiber of our being.

So if you think at-will employment is great, and public-sector unions are the Devil, then I don't know what the complaint here is. The governor telling his employees to get vaccinated or else, is no different than some corporate CEO telling his/her employees to get vaccinated or else. That is just how employment is supposed to work, right? You do what the boss says or your ass is out on the street, right?

This is not about some "long march through the institutions", instead, it is the result of at-will employment applied to the public sector, which I would think that conservatives would *welcome*, rather than recoil from.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Provide a list of other medical conditions and/or vaccination statuses that are currently imposed on government employment at large.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

I am quite certain that there are certain public-sector professions - such as firefighters - that have imposed health conditions on their employees. But even if that were not the case - so what? Is at-will employment a thing, or isn't it?

If you think it's wrong for the governor to be firing people for not getting vaccinated, then please explain CLEARLY why you think so.

[damikesc]

"I am quite certain"

Not quite "a list of other medical conditions and/or vaccination statuses that are currently imposed on government employment at large."

Nobody gives two shits what you're "quite certain" about.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

And having read the article you linked, I don't agree with a governor's usurped power to dictate to private-sector employees to get vaccinated. That is entirely wrong and no governor or president or any government should have the power to do that.

[Don't look at me!]

The governor telling his employees to get vaccinated or else, is no different than some corporate CEO telling his/her employees to get vaccinated or else.
Both those things are unacceptable, as it has nothing to do with job performance.

[Gwenda Lafortune]

If you favor at-will employment, then this turn of events should hardly be a surprise.

Government employment is not "at-will" you stupid fucking cunt. Ever heard of a public sector union? Ever heard of equal protection? The 14th amendment? The government has conditions placed upon it that are entirely different from private sector employers, some by statute (equal protection; non-discrimination) others by choice (public sector unions).

But if you think that there ought to be some limits to at-will employment, then what should those limits be, and who enforces those?

Goddamn, what a conundrum! You've really painted us into a corner here. Nobody until the year 2021 had ever considered this idea before and subsequently written things called "employment contracts" that lay out the terms of employment and dismissal.

This is not about some “long march through the institutions”, instead, it is the result of at-will employment applied to the public sector, which I would think that conservatives would *welcome*, rather than recoil from.

No, this has nothing to do with at-will employment, and you should consider getting your 50 cents back from whatever dumbfuck fed you that talking point, because it's one of the most idiotic things you've ever attempted in your long history of idiotic shitposting at Reason, cytotoxic. Make you a deal though: We'll institute across-the-board at-will employment for all government employees. That means the governor can force the desk clerk at the DMV to take an emergency-use-authorization experimental vaccine that still has 2 years of safety trials left to complete in order to keep her job, and that the local school board can fire a BIPOC kindergarten teacher who tells 5 year old children that they are oppressors or victims based solely on the color of their skin. Deal?

[creech]

Typical local NBC coverage in Philly tonite: sob stories about how kids getting ready to go to school in three weeks are about to be tossed on the street through evictions. The reporter did ask "How about the landlords that will suffer by not getting rent?" and the advocate for thievery said "Oh, they will be shielded from foreclosure on their property." So, screw the banks if the landlord has a mortgage or screw the landlord if he doesn't. No mention of course of compassionate citizens reaching into their own wallets to keep the school kids cozy in their apartments.