Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal on Left-Wing Cancel Culture
The heterodox hosts of the popular Blocked and Reported podcast talk about surviving internet outrage, the roots of speech repression, and the power of direct financial support from fans.

In today's podcast, Nick Gillespie talks with Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal, two controversial, heterodox journalists in their late 30s who have been "canceled" multiple times for writing articles that have inflamed trans activists (go here and here), defended young adult novelists from would-be censors, and blamed Elizabeth Warren (rather than sexism) for the failure of her presidential campaign.
Though Herzog lives in Washington state and Singal in New York City, the pair produces the popular new show Blocked and Reported, "a podcast about internet nonsense." In a wide-ranging conversation with Gillespie, they talk about the growing repression of speech among progressives, the roots of and fixes to "cancel culture," how identity politics stifles open inquiry and honest disagreement, and surviving the collapse of alt-weeklies. They also talk about the liberating effect of Patreon, the online platform that allows creators to generate subscription revenue directly from fans (Blocked and Reported currently raises more than $8,000 per month from over 1,400 supporters).
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"They also talk about the liberating effect of Patreon, the online platform that allows creators to generate subscription revenue directly from fans"
Someone should probably tell them about the perils of publications selling their small donors and their principles short in order to get fat checks from big donors. They probably aren't big enough to worry about that yet, but, you know, it's always better to be prepared.
There's also the issue of Patreon banning accounts for wrongthink. Not so freeing when the same cancel culture political activists have had success there
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Yeah, I referenced that below.
They're an extension of cancel culture, not a solution to it.
Golly, what sort of publication would do something as awful as that?
It's crazy that someone might build an audience organically only to burn it all down like that--and decrease their influence--but believe me, I've seen it happen!
Getting a big check in exchange for doing something like that is the most plausible explanation, but maybe . . . um . . . [some content creators] do it just because.
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Reason isn't all that big but it didn't stop them!
Patreon bans people they do not agree with. These two are autistic.
Oh, and, even better than Patreon, if you're using the Brave browser's rewards system, they're sending you a share of the money they get for showing you the standard webs ads you'd see anyway. I'd estimate that they've sent me $100+ over the last year.
Anyway, the great thing about Brave is that you can get by Patreon's (or YouTube's) demonetization barriers that way. Once the content provider becomes a verified Brave content creator, you can send them the money Brave gives you for seeing the ads you'd normally see with another browser anyway. You may not think $100 over the course of a year is much, but an annual subscription to Reason is $15--and, yes, Reason is a verified Brave content creator.
YouTube content creators, for instance, can take advantage of this, too--even after they've been demonetized by YouTube. They may not get any ad revenue from their videos because of the content, but YouTube can't stop you from sending the content creator money directly through Brave if that's what you want to do.
My understanding is that Brave was started by the former head of Firefox (or Mozilla), after he'd been pushed out of his job because he made political contributions to something the PC brigade in Silicon Valley didn't like. It also happens to be the most secure and privacy respecting mainstream browser with Tor baked in and them topping the privacy rankings in independent surveys.
"Microsoft Edge received the lowest privacy rating in a recently published study that compared the user information collected by major browsers. Yandex, the less-popular browser developed by the Russian Web search provider Yandex, shared that dubious distinction. Brave, the upstart browser that makes privacy a priority, ranked the highest."
----Ars Technica
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/03/study-ranks-edges-default-privacy-settings-the-lowest-of-all-major-browsers/
P.S. Patreon deplatforms people.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-is-leaving-patreon-should-you
If we're looking for a solution to people being deplatformed by the PC crowd, Patreon isn't it.
I'm not aware of Brave ever deplatforming anybody.
Patreon naturally de-platforms anyone guilty of wrong think. As for that pill-popping, benzo-degenerate Jordan Peterson, no one outside of a few lost adolescents care what he thinks.
So you're saying that we shouldn't use Brave to make donations rather than Patreon--because you don't like what Jordan Peterson says? Maybe you're saying that we shouldn't put our money where our mouth is by using Brave instead of Patreon--because you don't understand that free speech means tolerating people and speech we don't like?
What's your point?
I think he was being sarcastic.
It's hard to detect around here though, with idiots like Jeff and Nuttplug who are human parodies.
Yeah, I invoke Poe's Law.
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I was considering listening to Blocked and Reported, but first I'll need to look at the average length of an episode.
They also talk about the liberating effect of Patreon
Don't tell them about Owen Benjamin or Vox Day.
Oh yeah, forgot about Sargon of Akkad.
Why would Patreon de-platform that African-American intellectual?
Oh Dear!. Aunt Jemima has joined Mia the Land O Lakes princess in the ash heap of cancel culture. Am I a ricest to assume Uncle Ben is next to go?
Once all black corporate mascots are removed, they can accuse the other mascots of a lack of diversity and lobby for the removal of white males Colonel Sanders, Mr. Clean, Julio Pringles, Captain Morgan, Mr. Muscle and Mario.
Aunt Jemima was owned by Quaker Oats. Now that she's been emancipated that old Quaker cracker's got to go.
Big Brother is the only mascot the Outer Party and the Proles need.
I've lived through three generations of racial strife. At every step [Civil Rights Act, School desegregation, affirmative action, EEOC, Obama] I've thought well we've come this far. I was stupid to think that; it can never ever end. It's as though every generation just assumes that there situation is unique, ex nihilo, and without redress and something has to be done about it. Are we riding the fourth wave yet?
The older you get, the more you've seen, the less you know for sure. And fortunately it also gives a few more reasons to smile at the same things our parents used to smile at.... primarily the indignance of youth at the previous generation, and the surety that they will solve all the world's problems
Yes, every generation thinks they've just discovered the blight of racism [among other social ills] and is equally sure that they will solve it forever. What they don't realize [yet] is that often in an effort to cancel racism, they create a new version like subbing low expectation or paternalism for open hostility, the former two being just as or sometimes more corrosive.
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no, you're just going against the grain
Will they get rid of Ben became he is black, or because he took a job that belongs to a chinaman?
Chinaman? You LACIST!
Girl with one leg: Eileen
Chinese girl with one leg: Irene
Also, Dude, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature.
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Nick drops a lot of F-bombs here, he must've been wearing the jacket.
Nick doesn't wear the jacket, the jacket wears him.
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I joined their Patreon thing and really like their pod so far.
Now that Katie has FU money she's hilarious.
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