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Scott Walker's Foxconn Boondoggle Is Now Subsidizing Imported Chinese Workers

Looks like Scott Walker got Foxconned

Yichuan Cao/Sipa USA/NewscomYichuan Cao/Sipa USA/NewscomIt's almost like spending billions of dollars to get a single employer to locate in your state might not be a great idea.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker pledged more than $3 billion in state tax incentives to lure Taiwanese manufacturing giant Foxconn to the Milwaukee suburbs (local governments pitched in with $764 million in additional subsidies), but, as The Wall Street Journal reports today, Foxconn is now considering bringing in Chinese workers to fill jobs at the plant. Foxconn is struggling to find engineers and other skilled employees, a problem that's been exacerbated by America's tight labor market and Wisconsin's 3 percent unemployment rate, which is 7/10ths lower than the national rate.

In order to qualify for state and local tax incentives, Foxconn must hit certain hiring goals over the coming years—goals that it may not be able to achieve without bringing in workers from elsewhere. That's not all bad for Wisconsin workers. As the Journal reports, local companies are boosting pay and benefits in an effort to "avoid having Foxconn poach their workers."

But it's the latest sign that the Foxconn deal may not have been the economic windfall that Walker and others—including President Donald Trump, who praised the economic development package when it was announced—might have hoped. If a significant number of the 13,000 jobs Foxconn promised to create are not going to Wisconsin workers, Wisconsin taxpayers might have more reason to wonder why they're on the hook for footing the company's bill.

Many are already wondering exactly that, and it could cost Walker his job in today's election. A September poll by Marquette University found that only 39 percent of Wisconsinites believed the Foxconn deal was worth it. Tony Evers, the state superintendent of public education and Walker's Democratic opponent in the gubernatorial election, has called the Foxconn subsidies a "lousy deal" that seems to contain "asterisk after asterisk."

The numbers alone are staggering. While many states provide handouts in the form of economic development subsidies and tax breaks to lure companies to certain locations, the Foxconn deal is the largest such subsidy in Wisconsin history. Even if all 13,000 promised jobs went to Wisconsinites, the tab would be more than $230,000 per job created.

Another lousy part of the deal is the fact that eminent domain will be used to remove residents of Mt. Pleasant, Wisconsin, where the new facility is to be built. As Reason has previously reported, Foxconn will receive more than 1,000 acres of land for free, the logic being that the subsequent increase in land value will pay for itself eventually in the form of higher property taxes.

Today's news that Foxconn will likely import workers from China to fill jobs at the Wisconsin plant should be another warning sign to politicians who go all-in to land a major employer in their town, city, or state. Once the deal is inked and the taxpayers are holding the bag, plans can (and do) change for reasons that may not have been anticipated or included in the original arrangement. Wisconsin would be better off with lower tax rates for everyone, instead of subsidizing a giant employer. I'm sure the cities vying to host the second Amazon headquarters are paying attention, right?

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  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker pledged more than $3 billion in state tax incentives to lure Taiwanese manufacturing giant Foxconn to the Milwaukee suburbs (local governments pitched in with $764 million in additional subsidies), but, as The Wall Street Journal reports today, Foxconn is now considering bringing in Chinese workers to fill jobs at the plant.

    Foreign immigrant workers that will endlessly enrich our culture.

  • Ryan Frank||

    This deal sucks. But it's pretty rich for reason to be decrying importing cheap workers at this point.

  • John||

    I am not sure why the deal sucks. They are better off with the factory than they are without it. Who cares if they pay lower taxes?

  • Don't look at me!||

    That's correct.
    Surprised they didn't figure in potential tax hikes in the future that my have boosted the " cost to taxpayers ".
    Some money coming in is better than none.

  • ||

    But it's pretty rich for reason to be decrying importing cheap workers at this point.

    It doesn't really seem to me like this article is "decrying importing cheap workers" so much as "pointing out that this government intrusion into the marketplace promised as a way to create jobs for people in Wisconsin is not, in fact, employing many people in Wisconsin but is, in fact, likely to bring more of exactly the foreign workers that the supporters of the plan said would be kept out in the name of getting jobs for people in Wisconsin."

    tl;dr: "Government plan has opposite of intended consequence."

    Not at all off the libertarian beat.

  • John||

    It doesn't really seem to me like this article is "decrying importing cheap workers" so much as "pointing out that this government intrusion into the marketplace promised as a way to create jobs for people in Wisconsin is not,

    But of course it has created jobs for people in Wisconsin. The fact that some people will move from elsewhere doesn't make those jobs somehow not real or not in Wisconsin. Hell, they could all be Americans and I am sure some of them would be moving in from out of state. Since when does a business have to only hire locals to benefit the local economy? That makes no sense. The fact is, no matter who takes these jobs, there will be that many more fairly high paying jobs in the area. And those people will be spending their salaries giving business to local firms that they would not have had otherwise.

  • Juice||

    Since when does a business have to only hire locals to benefit the local economy? That makes no sense. The fact is, no matter who takes these jobs, there will be that many more fairly high paying jobs in the area. And those people will be spending their salaries giving business to local firms that they would not have had otherwise.

    So it doesn't matter if the workers originate from elsewhere. They will still become part of the local economy and benefit it. This is an interesting thesis. Please elaborate.

  • John||

    What about that do you not understand. If I bring my business to a community and because of that a few hundred people move in from out of town to take the jobs, how is that not "benefiting the community" because I didn't hire only local workers? To say it isn't is to take a bizzare view of economic development.

    And no before you go there, this is not the same thing as immigration. Immigration means people move in whether or not they have jobs at all. That is not the same thign as people moving in to fill jobs that exist and the local population is unable to fill.

    Unless you want to tell me that there is something undesirable about having a bunch of high paid engineers move into your state, you really don't have much of a point here.

  • Juice||

    And no before you go there, this is not the same thing as immigration.

    Oh no? So it's only all right if a new business comes into town and brings 100% of its workers in from out of town/state/country, but not if an existing business decides to hire someone from out of town/state/country.

    Is that what you're saying?

  • John||

    Oh no? So it's only all right if a new business comes into town and brings 100% of its workers in from out of town/state/country, but not if an existing business decides to hire someone from out of town/state/country.

    First, the local community can't fill these jobs. That is not the same thing as businesses hiring from abroad because they can get cheaper labor.

    Second, the only difference in those situations is potentially the nature of the workers who are moving there. And yes, there is a huge difference between building a high tech plant and bringing in engineers from Taiwan than building a low skill meat packing plant and importing low skilled immigrants from Hondurous.

    So, no it is not the same as illegal immigration. If you think we need to be importing more highly skilled workers from abroad to fill jobs that the American workforce isn't filling, you will get no objection from me.

  • Don't look at me!||

    And once they get here and start working, they could become Americans, so problem solved.

  • My Dog Bites Better Than Yours||

    And once they get here and start working, they could become Americans, so problem solved

    On an H1-B visa? Not a chance.

  • ||

    The fact that some people will move from elsewhere doesn't make those jobs somehow not real or not in Wisconsin.

    Walker: "I'm going to bring more jobs to Wisconsin!"

    *Wisconsin voters cheer*

    Walker: "The new jobs are going to people who are going to move to Wisconsin from elsewhere, but hey, at least they're in Wisconsin, right?"

    *Wisconsin voters scratch heads*

    Since when does a business have to only hire locals to benefit the local economy?

    It doesn't. What Boehm's pointing out is the utter faceplant that the outcome of the "America First" protectionism of the current crop of Republicans is subsidizing a company that's bringing in foreign workers and trying to chalk it up on the "jobs created for 'Muricans" tally.

    If you're going to take that stance, then all the illegal immigrants who are coming here and "taking American jobs" are doing no such thing - every single on of those jobs is still in America.

  • BYODB||

    You can tell the Republican party is going through some shit when the most conservative guys on radio are worrying about the Union healthcare contracts.

    It's like I'm living in a world were Republicans are Democrats from twenty years or so ago, and Democrats are Communists.

    Or, shorter me, we're all fucked.

  • DesigNate||

    It's not "like" that. It is that world. Just look at the current bases of the two parties.

  • John||

    No I am not. If illegal immigrants are truely taking jobs that need to be filled but can't be filled by native Americans and are coming here becuase of those jobs, then they are somewhat analogous to this. But that is not even close to always being the case.

    Beyond that, not all jobs are the same. If instead of being some tech plant that was importing a bunch of highly paid engineers, it was a pig farm that was going to import a bunch minimum wage Salvadorans who would live ten to an apartment, the desireability of it would be much less.

    Yes, importing a bunch of highly skilled higly productive engineers is not even close to the same thing as importing a bunch of low prodivity low skilled illegal immigrants. Or to put it another way, big high tech factories create more wealth than chicken farms and meat packing plants.

    Eric has no piont here other than he doesn't seem to understand economics very well.

  • ||

    Eric has no piont here other than he doesn't seem to understand economics very well.

    No - his point is about the politics, not the economics.

  • John||

    And he has no point about the politics other than to bitch about things that he doesn't consider important and just imagines everyone else does.

  • ||

    And he has no point about the politics other than to bitch about things that he doesn't consider important and just imagines everyone else does.

    So Trump hasn't been campaigning on bringing back jobs for Americans and stemming the tide of foreign workers who steal their jobs?

  • Nardz||

    Not a single job for a previous resident of Wisconsin was created by Foxconn?
    Foxconn with tax incentives is worse and generates less revenue than if Foxconn wasn't there?

    Boehm is a shill. Its transparent.

    Where's his article on Gillum's corruption and proposed business tax increases?

    Additionally, the headline is dishonest. Foreigners are not being subsidized, not brought in - Foxconn is considering doing so.

    #ProgressiveMoment

  • ||

    Not a single job for a previous resident of Wisconsin was created by Foxconn?
    Foxconn with tax incentives is worse and generates less revenue than if Foxconn wasn't there?

    So government subsidy of business is all well and good as long as one person gets a job?

    What is it you believe Boehm is "shilling" for?

  • Nardz||

    Boehm is clearly team faggot (stronger together!).
    He does nothing but attack Rs and attack Ds.
    He is a dishonest hack.
    Gillum is hundreds of times worse than Walker, and will kill Florida's economy - but Boehm is silent.
    Avowed socialists, bribe-taking congressmen, California - Boehm is silent.
    Fuck Boehm.

    As far as subsidies go, I don't know all the details. I don't count tax incentives as subsidies. The market is about making deals, no?
    Foxconn was on the market, Walker made a deal to bring them in.
    But Boehm's ONLY concern is Progress!
    Again, fuck Boehm.

  • Frank White||

    Cutting a corporation's taxes is considered a payment? This is a libertarian website, isn't it?

  • John||

    It is a Libertarian lifestyle magazine. Actual libertarian views are optional. Reason seems to have adopted the position that everything in society belongs to the governent and any time the government decides to take less of it, it is just giving you more welfare. They are real woke like that.

  • Nardz||

    #Progress!

  • Jgalt1975||

    When the tax benefits are given to one specific company rather than being across the board, that's not an unreasonable way to frame it....

  • Frank White||

    If Ayn Rand were alive, she'd be dead.

  • John||

    Yes it is. It is still their money. You getting to keep more of your money doesn't harm me. It is not like welfare where I am paying for it.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    It is 100% picking and choosing winners though. Giving certain companies benefits, tax breaks, and eminent domain benefits is picking and choosing winners, which negatively impacts competitors in the space by stacking the force of law against them.

  • John||

    Picking winners and losers is pretty much inherent in any government decision. Deciding to have a sales tax versus an income tax is picking winners and losers.

    There is a fairness aspect to joe blow getting a break on his taxes and me not. And I see that and that is why I am not a fan of these things. But, I don't find that to be that compelling of a wrong. Regardless, the problem is that I am not getting the same break not that you are getting one.

  • BYODB||


    Picking winners and losers is pretty much inherent in any government decision.

    Perhaps, but picking them by specific company and not industry is at best crony capitalism and at worst fascism.

  • TuIpa||

    See, I thought it was at best someone starving the beast and getting away with it.

    Where is all this weird jealousy about avoiding taxes coming from?

  • BYODB||

    It's a simple concept, or at least it used to be, called equality before the law.

    Are you also in favor of, say, a politicians brother paying a lesser tax rate because they are related to a high-ranking politician while everyone else pays the listed tax rate?

    It's not jealousy, it's hilarity. I'm not against Foxconn paying less taxes, I'm against all the other companies in the same industry paying higher taxes than Foxconn. They aren't the same thing, you know.

    Although the best thing of all is watching a Reason author make the claim that there may be negative consequences to importing labor. I'm surprised they let Eric write this.

  • TuIpa||

    "It is 100% picking and choosing winners though"

    I think it more accurately phrased as "picking non-losers"

  • juris imprudent||

    This is a libertarian website, isn't it?

    Sometimes.

    "A lot changed while you were away".

  • Calidissident||

    This isn't mere tax cuts, they're receiving subsidies (and that's setting aside the question of selectively singling out certain companies for tax breaks).

    "Back when the subsidy was $3 billion, Wisconsin's non-partisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau estimated that it would take until 2043 for taxpayers to recoup the subsidy. This long payback period was due to Walker and Republicans effectively cutting the state's corporate income tax for manufacturers to zero in 2011. This meant the subsidies to Foxconn would not be a tax write-off, but billions in cash that would be paid back by state income taxes paid by Foxconn workers. At $4.1 billion, the payback date for the state was likely 2050 or later."

    https://tinyurl.com/yd23yc3p

    That's in addition to eminent domain and being gifted free state land.

  • John||

    Giving them $3 billion dollars that isn't going to be recouped during the lives of many of the taxpayers paying for it, is a legitimate objection to this project. Why Eric didn't make that objection and instead made this bullshit article about the evil Chinese getting jobs is a mystery known only to him.

  • ||

    Why Eric didn't make that objection and instead made this bullshit article about the evil Chinese getting jobs is a mystery known only to him.

    "Even if all 13,000 promised jobs went to Wisconsinites, the tab would be more than $230,000 per job created."

    Did I miss the part where he says the evil Chinese getting jobs is the main problem here?

  • John||

    Yes you did. It is the main reason Eric argues that it isn't an ecoomic windfall.

  • ||

    Yes you did. It is the main reason Eric argues that it isn't an ecoomic windfall.

    That's weird, because the article I read was talking about how the government spent a bunch of money in the name of employing the people of Wisconsin and the result was instead employing the people of China.

    Considering everything else Boehm has ever written, wouldn't you agree that any non-Wisconsin resident would make his point equally well? That he's never shown particular animus toward the Chinese-as-such? That he says this isn't an economic windfall not because it's benefiting furriners but because the cost doesn't equal the return? And on top of that, it is a complete and total fail as far as "America-First-ism?"

  • John||

    That's weird, because the article I read was talking about how the government spent a bunch of money in the name of employing the people of Wisconsin and the result was instead employing the people of China.

    Which is saying that it isn't an economic windfall because people are moving from Taiwan to take the jobs. You are agreeing with me.

  • ||

    You are agreeing with me.

    Only if you ignore the rest of what I wrote, as you are doing with the article.

  • John||

    The rest of what you wrote is just you pretending that you didn't mean the first sentence. Again, the only reason the Chinese are a problem is if you think there coming here somehow makes the company less of an economic windfall for the state. And that is idiotic and you know it.

  • ||

    Again, the only reason the Chinese are a problem is if you think there coming here somehow makes the company less of an economic windfall for the state

    And, again, the "problem" is that the subsidies were granted in the name of creating jobs for Wisconsin workers.

    Imagine a different scenario: Nancy Pelosi promises to build an affordable housing complex for the Poors. She appropriates the tax money, gets the building built, and then a bunch of privileged millennials with Ivy League degrees and high-paying tech jobs move in.

    Do you see how a criticism of how the program turned out might not revolve around "Millenials are evil" or "Ivy League tech people don't deserve housing" but "gee, that really didn't turn out the way she said it was going to, did it?"

  • John||

    Lets look at what the state is doing here. This is from the Verge piece linked in the article.

    By December 2017, the public cost had grown to include $764 million in new tax incentives from local governments in Racine County, which is just 40 minutes south of Milwaukee where the plant was to be located. Other additions included $164 million for road and highway connections built to service the plant, plus $140 million for a new electric transmission line to Foxconn that would be paid for by all 5 million ratepayers of the public utility We Energies. With other small costs added, the total Foxconn subsidy hit $4.1 billion — a stunning $1,774 per household in Wisconsin.

    $764 million of it is in taxbreaks, which I do not consider a subsidy. The rest of it is building the infurstructure to support the plant, the roads and power lines and such. Is that ideal? No. but I think there it is at least arguable that building roads and infurstructure is a legitimate government function. Every time the government builds a road every business that gets built on it benefits. That is hardly the same as just writing them a check, which is what Eric implies here.

  • ||

    Personally, I don't favor the government subsidizing businesses. In this case, the government subsidizing a business achieved the exact opposite of what the subsidy's supporters claimed it would.

  • John||

    No it didn't. That is insane and you know it. No one outside of the voices in your head assumed that the jobs would only go to locals or that people moving from elsewhere to live in the community and take the jobs was somehow a bad thing. You and Eric are just making shit up here and making arguments that you know are wrong and would never make in any other context.

  • ||

    No one outside of the voices in your head assumed that the jobs would only go to locals

    What is it that you believe Wisconsin voters understood they were being told when they were told "this will bring jobs to Wisconsin?"

    When Trump says he's going to bring steel jobs back to the Midwest, if those jobs go to immigrants and the people currently in the Midwest remain unemployed, will you be saying that the people in the Midwest never seriously expected those jobs were meant for them?

  • John||

    What is it that you believe Wisconsin voters understood they were being told when they were told "this will bring jobs to Wisconsin?"

    Yes. Being sentient and having an IQ above 50, I am quite sure they were aware that these jobs could be filled by people moving to Wisconsin to fill them. In fact, they probably found that to be a good thing since having skilled people with high paying jobs move to your state helps everyone.

    You and Eric's position here is that everyone in Wisconsin is as stupid as you wish they were. That is all that is going on here. "If people in Wisconsin are complete morons, then this is not what they expected".

  • ||

    You and Eric's position here is that everyone in Wisconsin is as stupid as you wish they were.

    So, let me get this straight. Trump and Walker's promises to bring jobs back to the US to put American workers back to work has always been understood to really mean that we're going to subsidize foreign companies to create jobs here for foreign workers? And Eric and I are being ignorant by thinking that the voters were thinking these jobs were being promised to them? And that the government subsidizing businesses in the name of "job creation" is the most-libertarian-thing-to-do?

  • Dillinger||

    >>>Wisconsin voters understood they were being told when they were told "this will bring jobs to Wisconsin?"

    every jobless person in Wisconsin gets job @foxconn!

  • Calidissident||

    Those numbers seem to be for the add-ons that took it from $3 billion to $4.1 billion.

    Building infrastructure solely for one new business is different from building a road on which a bunch of businessed are located. Also, even "tax incentives" often are direct subsidies, the way many "tax credits" are. Not always strictly limited to a break off the tax bill. Not sure what the case is for that $764 million, but I wouldn't be sure of that without checking. And that's assuming it's not a problem to single out a particular business for a tax break while every other business and individual has to pay up like usual.

  • Nardz||

    Businesses already exist where there are no roads?
    Businesses won't be built along a new road?

  • ||

    #LibertariansForMuhRoads!

  • Nardz||

    Check your premises, and maybe make a point...

  • TuIpa||

    "and that's setting aside the question of selectively singling out certain companies for tax breaks"

    Why wouldn't a libertarian set that aside? Why would I care that some other guy ducked some taxes?

  • ||

    The other guy didn't "duck some taxes." He was exempted from rules that you, peasant, will be expected to follow.

  • OverWandersTelcon-tarian||

    plans can (and do) change for reasons that may not have been anticipated or included in the original arrangement...

    ...by the voters, anyway.

  • John||

    If they really can't find the engineers locally, how is bringing in Chinese engineers a bad thing? They will come to Milwaukee, make good salaries and bring money into the local economy that was not there before the plant was built.

    And it is pretty fucking rich for reason, a magazine that daily publishes one incoherent rant after another about the virtues open borders to now claim that this project is a failure because the evil Chinese might get some of the jobs. What the fuck?

    The fact that they are importing Chinese workers does not mean that this was a bad deal. Maybe it was. I think giving tax breaks to companies like this is generally a stupid idea for a lot of reasons. But one of those reasons is most certainly not that they might not hire an exclusively local work force. This isn't like some stupid infurstructure or downtown revitalization project where you are just robbing one sector of the economy to build up another. The money invested in this plant and the salaries paid to the workers is money coming from the outside that would not have come without the factory. The local area is richer because it is now producing whatever value this factory is producing. And that is true no matter where the workers are coming from. Even if you don't get a job at the factory, you can still get a job doing something else because of the economic stimulus that comes from that extra wealth.

  • Dillinger||

    Walker bad man for bringing business and near full employment?

  • John||

    This article shows what leftist assholes the Reason staff has become. From a Libertarian perspective, Walker has not been a bad governor. He did a lot to end the influence of public employee unions, isn't much of a culture warrior (something the reason staff is forever telling Republicans they must do), and has cut taxes and generally done at least a competent job as governor.

    So, what thanks does he get from reason? This idiotic hit piece about how he gave tax breaks to the evil Chinese. It is just pathetic. If Reason actually wanted the GOP to become more Libertarian instead of just concern troll for the left, Walker would be one of the last Republicans reason went after. Instead, he is one of the few that warrents special attention and attack.

  • juris imprudent||

    Doubly ironic as Walker has had his share of love from the Kochs, no? Their choice for Republican nominee in '16; and here is the putative house organ playing out of tune. Those Kochs just don't know how to run a shadowy game.

  • DiegoF||

    Well I hope Walker can get a job at Foxconn because otherwise he is about to start contributing to Wisconsin's unemployment numbers. Even in the Midwest the Republicans are facing disaster. They'll get the Midwest eventually, just not this year. Meanwhile you can't argue with enormous increases in youth, first time voter, unlikely voter, minority, etc. turnout. And just Democratic turnout. Should Trump change his name to Obama, or Hoover?

  • John||

    I have been hearing forever that the yutes were all going to vote. And the only time it has ever happened was in 08 for Obama. And that was a special situation where they felt they could be a part of history. Maybe this year will be the first time they all turn out without the lure of being a part of history. But, I am skeptical they will given past performance.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Hey why not hire all those mopes in the caravan? They need jobz.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Oh wait, you mean they have nothing to offer?

  • TuIpa||

    They should have retrained...

  • John||

    Look Tulpa, building a factory that attracts engineers who make $50 an hour is totally the same as building a meat packing plant that attracts low skilled workers from Latin America. If you want the high tech workers from Taiwan then you must also want the meat packers from Hondurous to move into your town, because all jobs and labor are fungible.

    This is what the wokeltarians actually believe.

  • Juice||

    The meat packing plant has to go somewhere and someone has to pack the meat. Just not in your back yard, eh? And certainly not staffed with those people.

  • John||

    Sure it does. How about Hondurus? Move the jobs to the people?

    Beyond that, maybe paying a few extra dollars for our meat might be worth the price of not having to import large populations of low skilled foreign workers to get it?

    The reason why the tech plant is more desireable than the meat packing plant is becuase the social costs that come with the work force is less than the meat packing plant. Maybe there is more to life than an endless quest for ceap labor?

  • BYODB||


    Sure it does. How about Hondurus? Move the jobs to the people?

    Well, just as one example that's one of the few things Trump has been consistently against.

  • Careless||

    You guys know they can't just bring in foreign workers, right? They've got to get visas, and the number of those is capped

  • John||

    Yes. It is a zero sum game. So if they get the HB1 VISAS, someone else won't get them and will have to hire an American. There is a set number of HB1s every year.

    In the grand scheme of things, they are not increasing the number of foreign workers hired in the US. And the idea that the factory is not the benefit it was advertised to be because someone other than people living there right now get jobs is absurd.

  • ||

    WTHF? It's like the Holy Grail of immigration:
    Not taking jobs currently held by Americans? Check.
    Highly educated, highly motivated, selected immigrants? Check.
    Furinners contributing back to the community (before they even get here)? Check.
    Lengthy immigration and naturalization process with eventual path to citizenship? Check.

    Of *course* Reason opposes it. Seriously, there are legit topics worth criticizing this deal over, and Reason has, but this one carries the distinct aroma of "GOPers and Trump supports should hate this because really they're all just racists."

  • John||

    Eric just wants everyone to know what racists the GOP and Trump are and how horrible it is that these damn Chinese are coming to America to work.

    If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

  • Dillinger||

    is Wisconsin a +jobs since Cross-Eyed Mary was elected governor?

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