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Jamal Khashoggi Disappearance Doesn't Seem to Faze White House: Reason Roundup

Plus: Kavanaugh and Gorsuch differ during immigration case.

Stopping arms sales to Saudis would be a "very tough pill to swallow for our country" says Trump. Evidence suggests that Mohammed bin Salman, a recent darling of the D.C. foreign policy crowd and the young crown prince of Saudi Arabia, ordered the capture of Jamal Khashoggi, a self-exiled Saudi writer and regular Washington Post contributor, who went missing in Turkey. Cameras outside the Saudi consulate in Instanbul show Khashoggi arriving there on October 2, but do not show him leaving.

Before he went missing, U.S. intelligence agents "intercepted communications of Saudi officials discussing a plan to capture him," the Post reported yesterday. Since Khashoggi's disappearance, "Turkey's government says it has seen no evidence supporting the Saudi claim that Khashoggi ever left the consulate alive."

The U.S. and many other countries generally ignore what the Saudi government does to Saudi Arabians while they're in Saudi Arabia. But the Saudi government possibly abducting and harming a dissident writer living in Istanbul is a different thing altogether. This move could rile Turkish authorities, sour Saudi ties with allies outside the Middle East, and shift relations with some neighbors.

"Confirmation of any state-sponsored violence against Khashoggi would make it even harder for Saudi leadership to portray Iran as the ultimate villain of the region," writes Maysam Behravesh at Reuters. It would also "increase international pressure on the Trump administration, which has thrown its weight behind the young prince to execute his so-called reforms and helped set the stage for his ascension to the throne," as well as "backed the controversial Saudi-led intervention in Yemen with advanced weapons and political cover in international institutions." As Behravesh notes,

An airstrike by the Saudi-led coalition on a school bus in north Yemen left 40 children and 11 adults dead on August 9 and wounded 79 others, 56 of them children. CNN later reported that the weapon used in the deadly attack was a 500-pound laser-guided bomb made by Lockheed Martin and supplied by the United States.

Khashoggi had been critical of Prince Mohammed and Saudi-led actions in Yemen. "He lamented that Saudi Arabia's repression was becoming unbearable to the point of his decision to leave the country and live in exile in Washington," his editor at the Post, Karen Attiah, wrote yesterday.

Like way too many in U.S. politics, "Trump's foreign policy toward Saudi Arabia is compromised by deep financial conflicts of interest," points out Post contributor Brian Klaas.

In 1991, when Trump was $900 million in debt, he was bailed out by a member of the Saudi royal family, who purchased his 281-foot yacht, Trump Princess. Trump's other princess, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner, who has deep ties to the crown prince. In 2015, when asked about his relationship with the Saudis, Trump said: "I get along great with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much."

Asked yesterday about cutting of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, President Trump told Fox News' Shannon Bream that "what we are doing with our defense systems" meant "everybody is wanting them and, frankly, I think that would be a very, very tough pill to swallow for our country." Asked about Khaskoggi's disappearance on Monday, he had told White House reporters:

I am concerned about that. I don't like hearing about it and hopefully that will sort itself out. Right now, nobody knows anything about it.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    From 2008 to 2017, the overall suicide rade in Pennsylvania climbed 22 percent.

    Have you been to the commonwealth?

  • ||

    Hello.

    Know how weird-bad things are with the Saudis? Justin frickin Trudeau, despite all his bull shit feminist talk and puerile crap about peace, does arms business with Saudi Arabia.

    The Princes have pictures.

    Next.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Is Trudeau wearing colorful Muslim garb in the pictures? That would make. My day.

  • Eternal Blue Sky||

    The Saud Wahhabis don't do "colorful".

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I'm not sure consuming scrapple should be labeled suicide.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Eventual suicide by sodium and saturated fats.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    These people travel with jars of urine - just in case.

    In Providence, Antifa splashed @FordFischer with urine.

    Ford is a journalist covering the rally.

  • Ska||

    A jar of urine doesn't really require a lot of complicated procedures to make on the fly. You sure they're not just homebrewing at the rally?

  • Don't look at me!||

    Fresh and organic.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    The Asparagus Wars.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    The Asparagus Wars.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The feds won't let go of the fight against U.S. hemp farmers.

    THEY GOT NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. [SOBS]

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Adults up to age 45 can get the HPV vaccine now.

    Everyone knows old farts don't have sex.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    New York City natives can now change the sex designation on their birth certificates without a doctor's approval or choose a non-binary "X" designation for their sex.

    They do have to get a slip from Charles Xavier for the latter, though.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Despite the the argument that gender is subjective, and sex is objective.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It is when I do it!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Jamal Khashoggi Disappearance Doesn't Faze White House
    Why would the US Government spend resources to track down a Lefty media person who walked into the sovereign territory of the Monarch family he was criticizing...in Turkey?

    You Lefties and your concern for non-Americans over Americans.

  • Fancylad||

    Khashoggi's family is lucky the Trump administration hasn't commented much on his disappearance, or the Western media would've quickly unpersoned him and never reported on his plight again.

  • Ryan Frank||

    Saudi government is pretty fucking evil - as are pretty much every other government in the area.

    That being said - what exactly do you want him to do about it - I thought we were supposed to keep our noses out of other countries business, hell Reason has even published articles complaining that even sanctions are too harsh (see Iran, Cuba, China, probably others)

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I think part of it is that we are very involved with their business. Just that we are doing a lot to aid them and their work. We're not neutral.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Exactly. The Lefties demanding the US do something know that Bush and Obama sucked Saudi royalty dick and now they want the Saudis to pull out so we can ask where Jamal Khashoggi is.

    These are also the same Lefties that hate Trump and think he is an incompetent fool who seems to randomly do things that rollback Socialist policies.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    And the governments are evil because most of the PEOPLE in that region are evil.

  • Idle Hands||

    It's almost hilarious there gov(with a clear assist from ours) is currently committing genocide in yemin not a nary word by anyone in the mainstream. But kill one reporter and we're going to spend barrels and barrels of ink over it.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    THOSE brown people matter, since they dont further a Lefty narrative.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    "Jamal Khashoggi Disappearance Doesn't Faze White House"

    Yeah, Donald. Why can't you bomb somebody? DO SOMETHING!

  • Bubba Jones||

    Came here for this. Turkey seems sufficiently irritated. Let them handle this.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Vox: We "refuse to be silent any longer": magic as self-care after Kavanaugh
    Modern-day witches are creating rituals to foster solidarity, activism, and healing.

    THE GODDESS MOVEMENT
    For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you've got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, 'gifts of prophecy', really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you'll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Eddy||

    "If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you've got an attentive listener in a woman."

    And many men, let's be fair.

  • Eddy||

    Gosh, I guess that makes me a "white knight." No, it means that lots of men are really into conspiracy theories and the like.

  • MiloMinderbinder||

    The Party of Science!

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you've got an attentive listener in a woman.

    Probably explains why the Harry Potter fanbase is largely made up of millennial and Gen-X females.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Dear lord. pic.twitter.com/18NmavCFya
    — John Waggoner (@JohnWaggoner) October 9, 2018

    People are going to think weed causes you to turn orange.

    On a personal note, this guy was great in the old Wonder Woman show.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    A big 'ol Hurricane Michael hit the USA yesterday.

    Just in case you want news that some Americans are concerned about.

  • jcw||

    Don't kid, you care about just white people. Remember when you and John were oh so mad Reason didn't cover the killings of white south african farmers?

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    To be fair, white people *are* pretty awesome.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Kavanaugh is on the SCOTUS!

    Which is also fantastic news!

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Among righties.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Here's a hanky for you, bitch.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    It's hard to imagine how any liberty-minded person could be in favor of one of the architects of the Patriot Act being on SCOTUS.

  • Here for the outrage||

    Because progressives tried to smear an otherwise decent human being using their emotional support women as evidence, and got fucking creamed

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    I can disagree with Kavanaugh based on his stance on relevant issues and simultaneously think the process was FUBAR. But I still would have preferred a different pick, and the smear job doesn't change that in my mind.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    I wanted Don Willett to be the pick, but unfortunately he wasn't.

    But even with his imperfections, Kavanaugh is way better than ladies like you, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Sonia Sotomayor.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Better than RBG and Sotomayor? Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

  • chipper me timbers||

    "It's hard to imagine how any liberty-minded person could be in favor of one of the architects of the Patriot Act being on SCOTUS."

    ^This. Thank you.

    It feels like the Reason commentariat has been taken over by Breitbart commentariat. There used to be a bunch of actual libertarian minded people who commented here.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    I don't believe the support for Kavanaugh's judicial philosophy is as widespread as the support that Witch Trials should stay dead.

  • 0x1000||

    I always appreciated that libertarians treated multidimensional issues in a nuanced way. Unfortunately it really seems that the commentariat is now in the age of muhconstitution1789. Whether that's a reaction to the many editors merely recycling mainstream talking points or not, I don't know, but it's depressing.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Libertarianism has always irritated you people.

    Libertarians are kicking out anarchists, Lefties, and Republicans from their ranks. It scares the shit out of Democrats since a libertarian 3rd party can disrupt an election.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Trump is president!

    Which is also fantastic news!

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Among RINOs.

  • Peter Duncan||

    "Trump is president!!"

    Said the collectivist/statist/progressive.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Yeah, you are a troll.

  • Ryan Frank||

    ...is this parody? I can't tell anymore.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Name a recent American President who wasn't "chummy" with the Saudis.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Clintons.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Ronald Reagan.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Jimmy Carter.

  • Sevo||

    "They all were but only one of them was personally bailed out by Saudi money."

    Your tin-foil hat is leaking, turd.

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    Bush 43 which explains why Bush 41 saved their ass from Saddam.

  • Ryan Frank||

    Honestly I thought this was a subtle dig at Clinton during her tenure at State.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lefty tears are filling up tear barrels at an alarming rate

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Nearly 80 percent of the 1,200 women imprisoned in Nevada are incarcerated for non-violent crimes, often as not a drug-related offense...

    The "not" is for serial parallel parking violations and aggravated passive-aggression.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Wouldn't it be nice if 100% of imprisoned women were in for non-violent crimes?
    Or do we want/need more violent criminals to fix those percentages?
    What percentage of imprisoned men are in for non-violent crimes?
    These and one million other pertinent questions not answered in the story.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    How America's Most Prolific Serial Killer Almost Got Away With Murder
    He had numerous witnesses, with evidence literally piled up in the hallways, stored in freezers and refrigerators. How could all of this go unnoticed for decades?

    For instance, an industrial-strength garbage disposal had been completely worn out. Evidently it was used to grind up bodies for disposal into the Philadelphia sewer system. A waste-disposal company had unknowingly hauled off countless more for incineration. Still others had been taken to the killer's vacation home and used as bait in his crab cages.

  • Here for the outrage||

    Good luck getting a leftist to care about this, they love so much they'll fund it with your money

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    The difference between Texas and California is that the state isn't as hyper-urbanized as other states that have gone from red to purple or blue in recent years. Austin, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas might be Democrat locales, but the largest Democrat constituency in the state remains in the Rio Grande Valley, which is mostly Hispanic.

    If the Texas government continues to stupidly encourage Californians and their businesses to move there, however, that will change.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Also, Beto is nothing more than another desperate attempt by Texas Dems to use a young Great White Hope as a Trojan horse into turning Texas blue. They know that their party continues to evolve into the anti-white party, but that won't fly in the rest of the state, so they push these political Barbie dolls like Wendy Davis and Beto under the pretension that their skin color will be enough to overcome their stupid political positions.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    We already knew Drumpf is compromised by Russia, and may have been a Russian intelligence asset since 1987. But now we have proof he's compromised by Saudi Arabia as well???!! This government is even more illegitimate than I said it was yesterday.

    Robert Mueller really needs to deliver for us in 2019. Please, everyone, do your part by voting Democrat next month so Congress can follow Mueller's recommendations and kick Orange Hitler out of office.

    #TrumpRussia
    #TrumpSaudiArabia

  • 0x1000||

    This government is even more illegitimate than I said it was yesterday

    Surely you haven't gone soft on the social contract yet, right?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias against women

    And Jeff Bezos lost $9.1 Billion in latest stock drop- coincidence?

  • jcw||

    It costs money to discriminate towards women?

  • Tom Bombadil||

    I neither charge nor pay when I discriminate. Zero sum game.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It's rather telling that all these AI experiments end up reflecting late 19th-early 20th century social attitudes.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ,i>I am concerned about that. I don't like hearing about it and hopefully that will sort itself out. Right now, nobody knows anything about it.

    Just like the Saudis and 9/11.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Jesus Christ, 200 shots and he only managed to hit 5 people? I guess we should be grateful that progs are so afraid of guns that they are such poor shots with one of the most accurate rifles made in human history.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    The good thing about Progs is that they are always (literally) shaking with rage. Makes for poor marksmanship.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lefties will be shocked for a few seconds after they find out how good of shot the Silent majority is when it shoots back.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Khashoggi did not come out of the Saudi consulate. Legally speaking, he was on Saudi soil. Which is not to say they should have done whatever they did to him or that it should not cause an international incident.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    What happens is Saudi stays in Saudi.

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    Legally speaking, he was on Saudi soil.

    No!

    A common misconception.

    Is the embassy territory sovereign territory?

    Hopefully by now you have an idea of the answer, which is no.
  • Zeb||

    New York City natives can now change the sex designation on their birth certificates without a doctor's approval or choose a non-binary "X" designation for their sex.

    I wonder if the identity politics crowd sees how much things like this could break their whole program. I guess the trans-exclusionary feminists do.

    I hope people start wildly abusing this and changing their legal sex for laughs.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    The left: abortion restrictions are sexist oppression of women by tez patriarchy.

    Also the left: men can get pregnant too.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    But today I identify as a Y, not an X. The city is othering me!

    Why is anyone's sex/gender a matter that needs to be defined/documented by the government?

  • Griffin3||

    If these people want to self-document their instabilities, I think it should be encouraged. If I was {shudder} to have to hire anyone from NYC, I would definitely want access to this particular red flag ...

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    For the same reason that marriage needs to be defined/documented by the government.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I wonder if the identity politics crowd sees how much things like this could break their whole program. I guess the trans-exclusionary feminists do.

    Well, I predicted exactly that on this here site when the trans-panic first reared its head. But hey, why take my word for it, take a look through the telescope across the water and see the devastating effect it's having in real time.

    This is a fire I'm quite happy to watch burn out of control.

  • ||

    "in 1991, when Trump was $900 million in debt, he was bailed out by a member of the Saudi royal family, who purchased his 281-foot yacht, Trump Princess. Trump's other princess, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner, who has deep ties to the crown prince. In 2015, when asked about his relationship with the Saudis, Trump said: "I get along great with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much."

    Okay. Fine. Just like Moore said of the Bushes.

    But what do you want him to do exactly in this case?

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Remember the days when libertarians argued that our foreign policy was far too overreaching?

    #Libertarians4ForeignEntanglements

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Luckily, Reason staff are mostly Anarchists and Lefties so Libertarian NAP is not really applicable.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    I've criticized Bernie Sanders for his economic views in the past, but now he's discussing wealth inequality in a way left-libertarians like me can appreciate:

    When we talk about wealth inequality let us not forget that the wealth gap between white Americans and African Americans has more than tripled over the past 50 years. Today, the median white family has almost 10 times as much wealth as the median black family.

    The black - white wealth gap can only be explained as the result of white supremacy and institutional racism. That's why libertarians need to support affirmative action.

  • Zeb||

    Boring.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    I'm truly sorry if hard data that proves the existence of systemic racism is "boring" to you.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Actually, there is a young black man, Coleman Hughes, who explains why this has happened. He writes sometimes in Quillette magazine (online). He's really quite brilliant. Anyway, it has nothing to do with "white supremacy and institutional racism".

  • Tom Bombadil||

    BTW, just so happens Dave Rubin posted an interview with Coleman on his Youtube channel just a few hours ago.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    For you negroes that don't read.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    Wait, so Kavanaugh is turning out to be a state-worshipping authoritarian? Who could have seen that one coming!

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    It's a feature not a bug.

  • Here for the outrage||

    Yea we should've let the mob win by smearing him and calling him a gang rapist and ruin his life. Because the other options were all libertarians?

    Win the right way, with ideas, not emotionally targetting leftists into insanity

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Exactly. Besides, the goddamn President gets to pick his goddamn Judge. His pick should be approved unless it is known beyond a doubt that person cannot function as a judge.

  • 0x1000||

    I want to go back to a time where I can be equally pissed off by all (bad) outcomes.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    The only positive of Kavanaugh being on the SC is that the left will quit bitching about Gorsuch, who seems unusually independent and liberty-oriented as far as I can tell. Kavanaugh takes the mantle away from Gorsuch as the Hitler of the Supreme Court.

  • Bubba Jones||

    This was a known feature. I wonder why the Dems didn't oppose him on those grounds.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Because they love this shit as much as Kavanaugh, they're just less honest about it.

  • Sevo||

    "Jamal Khashoggi Disappearance Doesn't Seem to Faze White House"

    TDS symptoms are never far from expressed.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    At this point, TDS is implied in every MSM propaganda piece.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Seth Rich's murder sure didn't faze the JournoList very much.

    Oh right, I forgot that the JournoList actually expects us to believe that Rich was killed by a rando ghetto rat.

  • Idle Hands||

    Killing a reporter is probably not even in the top ten worst things the saudi royal family does in an afternoon yet it has captured the new cycles attention. I wonder why that is?

  • Sevo||

    "Nancy Pelosi: Getting Trump's tax returns 'one of the first things we'd do' if Dems retake House"

    How does she propose to do so?
    Nothing says a POTUS must release private information; just ask Obo about his college records.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lefties didnt even think that Obama needed to release his birth certificate.

    Nevermind that one of the few Constitutional qualifications for president requires that candidate be a "Natural Born Citizen', which the birth certificate would resolve.

  • Sevo||

    "New trial likely in Roundup case
    Judge to rule over $250M punitive award in Monsanto suit"
    [...]
    "Bolanos said that even if she doesn't vacate the punishment damages, she "would grant a new trial on grounds of insufficiency of the evidence to justify the award for punitive damages."
    http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2018/oct/11/
    new-trial-likely-in-roundup-case-201810/
    ?business-national

    Probably too much to expect actual, you know, 'science', to figure in this abomination, but maybe a lower level of hysteria might prevail.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Does anyone else notice that when the Reason website gets glitchy, it holds your comment for some seconds and lists the total number of Reason comments?

    Mine was 7510520. Seven and a half million comments is pretty decent.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Imagine if you did a query to select all of Mary Stack's comments from her 20 different accounts. It would probably come out to around seventy-five million!

  • Ken Shultz||

    3) The question of whether the United States should maintain its support of Saudi Arabia remains a question of our interests.

    Pointing out that Saudi Arabia is a bad actor, here, may be persuasive to rigidly ideological neocons, pearl clutching progressives, and naive Pollyanna types everywhere, but the rest of us should either support or oppose our relationship with Saudi Arabia based on whether either position is in the best interests of the United States. Assuming that because Saudi Arabia is a bad actor, that means dealing with them isn't in our interests is simply stealing a base, logically speaking.

    Sometimes, it might be in our best interests to work with Stalin to help us defeat the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese, even if Stalin has purposely starved millions of his own people to death, sent millions more to the gulags for political crimes, and generally stunk up the world with his murders. Likewise, working with the Saudis might be in our best interests from a perspective of national security, even if the Saudis murdered a critic in cold blood.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Freaking squirrels ate the first half of my post.

  • Eric L||

    re: the picture for the Jamal Khashoggi Disappearance story - so that is what Steven Van Zandt is up to these days.

  • Ken Shultz||

    The first half went something like this:

    "Confirmation of any state-sponsored violence against Khashoggi would make it even harder for Saudi leadership to portray Iran as the ultimate villain of the region," writes Maysam Behravesh at Reuters. It would also "increase international pressure on the Trump administration, which has thrown its weight behind the young prince to execute his so-called reforms"

    Several problems with this statement:

    1) Iran is the ultimate villain of the region.

    Iran has what amounts to an ICBM program, and they violated the NPT in pursuit of nuclear weapons. Iran is a state sponsor of terror by way of Hezbollah, which they've used to inflict their will on Lebanon, launch attacks on Israel/Palestine, and put down a popular uprising against Assad in Syria. Iran continues to destabilize the region by supporting their allies in neighboring Iraq, and they support terrorist groups in Yemen and elsewhere.

    Even if the Saudis did the worst to Khashoggi, we need to keep a sense of proportion.

    2) There isn't anything about "so-called" about the prince's reforms.

    These reforms include allowing women to drive, allowing women to attend sporting events, allowing movie theaters for the first time, and prohibiting the religious police from asking for identification, detaining anyone, or enforcing laws on women's dress.

  • SIV||

    I hate the Saudis, but killing WaPo reporters is the least of their sins.

  • Ron||

    Khashoggis disaperance is really not of our business unless it happened within our borders which it didn't.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Exactly. This is just the media publicizing a Missing Person report for one of their own. "Have you seen this man?"

  • Tom Bombadil||

    alt-tex: Gypsies Without Borders.

  • Dillinger||

    >>>The feds won't let go of the fight against U.S. hemp farmers.

    Filburn Forever!

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