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The Marine Le Pen Case Shows That Supposedly Enlightened France Treats Political Speech As a Crime and a Symptom of Mental Illness

The right-wing politician faces prosecution and psychiatric examination for posting pictures of ISIS atrocities.

Isa Harsin / Sipa / NewscomIsa Harsin / Sipa / NewscomFrance ranked 12 notches above the United States in this year's World Press Freedom Index, produced by Reporters Without Borders. But such ratings can be misleading, as illustrated by the prosecution of Marine Le Pen, head of the right-wing National Rally party (formerly the National Front), for posting images of ISIS atrocities on Twitter. Last week Le Pen revealed that she had been ordered to undergo a psychiatric examination as part of the investigation into her speech crime, which added another layer of Soviet-style thought control to the story.

It is inconceivable that an American politician, no matter how extreme his views, would be prosecuted for doing what Le Pen did, because a law like the one she is charged with violating would be clearly inconsistent with the First Amendment. That law, Article 227-24 of the French Criminal Code, makes it a crime, punishable by a fine of €75,000 (about $88,000) and up to three years in prison, to distribute "a message bearing a pornographic or violent character or a character seriously violating human dignity...where the message may be seen or perceived by a minor." Le Pen allegedly ran afoul of that prohibition in 2015 by posting three pictures of men murdered by ISIS—one beheaded, one burned alive, and one run over by a tank—in response to a Twitter user who likened her party to the terrorist organization. "Daesh [the Arabic acronym for ISIS] is this!" she tweeted.

This case vividly illustrates why Article 227-24 would never pass constitutional muster in the United States. Le Pen's tweet is indisputably political speech, sitting at the core of the expression protected by the First Amendment. The terms of Article 227-24 (especially the phrase "seriously violating human dignity") are broad and vague, encouraging self-censorship and inviting politically motivated prosecution of people who irk the powers that be. Le Pen, who unsuccessfully ran against Emmanuel Macron in a presidential runoff last year, was stripped of her parliamentary immunity six months later, leaving her open to prosecution.

That decision also left Le Pen open to a court-ordered psychiatric assessment, which she says she will resist. The BBC describes the order as "standard procedure," citing Le Parisen, which reports that prosecutors said "Article 706-47-1 of the Code of Criminal Procedure" provides the statutory authority for requiring an examination of Le Pen. Yet that provision applies only to people accused of "procuring concerning a minor," "forcing a minor into prostitution," and violent crimes such as sexual assault, "torture or acts of barbarity," and murder of a child "accompanied by acts of rape." It's telling that Le Parisien saw nothing amiss about putting Le Pen's "crime"—expressing her political views on Twitter—in the same category as rape, torture, and murder.

The notice that Le Pen received from Carole Bochter, the investigating judge handling the case, actually cites Article 161-1 of the Code of Criminal Procedure, a more general provision that authorizes judges to seek guidance from "experts" when they deem it "useful." Ordering a psychiatric examination was a matter of discretion, in other words, notwithstanding the claim by Le Parisen, the BBC, and other media outlets that it was standard procedure or even required by law. That legal leeway lends plausibility to Le Pen's complaint that the French government is taking a page from the Soviet playbook by treating political dissent as a mental illness.

The BBC says Bochter "wants the tests to determine if [Le Pen] suffers mental illness or is 'capable of understanding remarks and answering questions.'" Le Parisien says "the expert in charge of this psychiatric examination is supposed to check whether Marine Le Pen was or was not 'suffering from a psychic or neuropsychic disorder that impaired her discernment' when she posted the photos." The implication does seem to be, as Le Pen's allies claim, that Bochter sees her political speech as a evidence of a mental disorder.

Article 227-24 is not the only way in which French law deviates from the Enlightenment values to which French officials pay lip service. In addition to Twitter posts about terrorism, French legislators have criminalized Holocaust denial, public display of Nazi symbols, and insults or incitement of hatred based on race, religion, ethnicity, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, or disability. All of these bans would be non-starters under U.S. constitutional law. Shouldn't actual legal restrictions on speech carry more weight in a ranking of press freedom than Donald Trump's dreams of silencing people who offend him?

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  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Marine Le Pen, head of the right-wing National Rally party (formerly the National Front), for posting images of ISIS atrocities on Twitter.

    I love it when right-wingers fight other right-wingers. In this case ISIS are the real assholes though.

  • JesseAz||

    You're quite ignorant.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    France ranked 12 notches above the United States in this year's World Press Freedom Index, produced by Reporters Without Borders.

    Ah, but is Le Pen a member of Le Press? I don't think so. Therefore, she should not be afforded the unique protections that journalists must enjoy.

    Plus the French press don't have a leader who is constantly taking away their freedoms via 3AM tweets. Hence the ranking.

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    It's a given; that anything European is at least 12 notches above the US, right?

  • vek||

    Things like this are why I always LOL at the various rankings of freedom that rate the USA lower than [Insert European/Anglosphere/Asian nation here]. It's a farce. We have lots of dumb laws, but on the BIG stuff we win hands down, across the board.

  • Juice||

    And it leaves a bunch of silt in the bottom of the cup so it's inferior to paper filters.

  • Michael Cox||

    +Grande

  • Jerryskids||

    Last week Le Pen revealed that she had been ordered to undergo a psychiatric examination as part of the investigation into her speech crime, which added another layer of Soviet-style thought control to the story.

    It is inconceivable that an American politician, no matter how extreme his views, would be prosecuted for doing what Le Pen did, because a law like the one she is charged with violating would be clearly inconsistent with the First Amendment.

    You keep using that word.....

    The USSR has been gone for a generation, give it another generation until today's "democratic" socialists seize power and gut the First and we'll be calling it "American-style" thought control.

  • ||

    The USSR has been gone for a generation, give it another generation until today's "democratic" socialists seize power and gut the First and we'll be calling it "American-style" thought control.

    Methinks you underestimate the power of today's youth to find their elders batshit crazy.

  • Just Say'n||

    Who the hell ever thought France was Enlightened?

  • Just Say'n||

    Ask French author Michel Houellebecq about how Enlightened the French are. People that tried to charge him with hate speech for a book that he wrote in 1999.

    Ask the Muslims who are subjected to burka bans and are given no alternative other than pork for lunch in public schools about how Enlightened the French are (ironically, Gary's "religious liberty is a blackhole" thinking is what allows the French to troll muslims, but religious liberty makes it impossible to do that in the US)

    France is the anal cancer of the Enlightenment forward. If Europe would have followed America's example, rather than France's example, that continent probably wouldn't be utter shit today

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    We're allowed to ridicule our religious idiots in the USA.

    France made the mistake of thinking anyone that lived there was enlightened - even the sadistic Muslims that make women wear burqas.

  • Just Say'n||

    How about we just let people believe what they want to, but acknowledge that the French are absolutely horrible people who are endowed with undeserved arrogance

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Because it is my duty as a good citizen to ridicule bullshit ideas.

    Communism, socialism, monarchy - all BAD ideas.

    Why is religion exempt?

    Religion might be the worst idea of all. There is no deity. It is made up bullshit and harmful to people.

  • Just Say'n||

    The dumbest people I've ever met were self-described atheists. Some of the smartest people I've ever met were religiously devout. That's really the only thing that always turned me off from atheism

  • Alcibiades||

    The only thing more annoying than a devout preachy vegan is a devout preachy atheist.

  • ||

    That's really the only thing that always turned me off from atheism

    I have a problem with the positively knowing a negative. Hempel's Paradox is interesting. Insisting that it's not interesting, that you're right, and there are no white ravens doesn't make you right, it just makes you an asshole.

  • Just Say'n||

    I am an asshole

  • BYODB||

    The idea that there certainly is a god is no more absurd than the notion that there certainly is no god.

    It's really that simple. Plug is of course too dumb to understand this basic truth.

  • Oli||

    The notion that there certainly is no god is more probable than the notion that there certainly is a specific god though. The theist equivalent to atheism is, well, non-specific theism. The only view compatible with science is agnosticism (and I don't mean the "I can't decide which god to believe in" variant).

  • BYODB||

    Oli gets it more exactly correct. Agnosticism is rational in the sense of 'maybe an unknown god exists', the extreme's are not as they claim certainty about the unknown.

    I tend to lean towards there is no god, or if there is one it is most likely to be indifferent to us. Also what is a god, anyway? Simply a word for the unknown I'd say.

  • ||

    My experience too JS.

  • JesseAz||

    Liberals are by far the most religious now. They just have a different god.

  • JesseAz||

    De toqueville actually existed. So at one point some where enlightened.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Fuck France!

    That is all.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    But not Pepe Le Pew, I don't care how gropey and problematic he is.

  • Paloma||

    But that sexy accent...

  • ||

    Be careful! They'll be asking for American military and financial assistance very soon for something!

  • Uncle Jay||

    Only socialists know what's free speech is.
    That's why they're so intolerant of other people's opinions.

  • Alcibiades||

    "All of these bans would be non-starters under U.S. constitutional law. Shouldn't actual legal restrictions on speech carry more weight in a ranking of press freedom than Donald Trump's dreams of silencing people who offend him?"

    The press freedom index is a total joke.
    No other nation on the planet has greater protections for freedom of speech than the US, whether you're a reporter or not.

  • Ken Shultz||

    I'd like to point out that France's hate speech laws have done Marine Le Pen a huge favor politically. She'd never have as much support as she does if it weren't for France's hate speech laws.

    Much of her struggle with her father has been about making him (and his support within the National Front) shut up about denying the holocaust. The more they shut up about the holocaust, the better the National Front did in the polls.

    I suspect that's one of the primary reasons why we don't have anything like the National Front here in the U.S. If you want to discredit a racist in the minds of the public, you don't stop him from talking. You put a camera on him and give him a microphone!

    What could we say about the idiot racists here in the United States that would be more damaging than the stupid shit they say themselves when they're on camera? That's one of the biggest reasons why we don't have racist parties here in the U.S. like they do in Europe--free speech means that the racists are always making fools of themselves every time they open their mouths, and hate speech laws prevent the racists from making fools of themselves.

    If the people in the National Front were free to say what they really thought, the National Front wouldn't have enjoyed anywhere near the support its had in recent elections.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Think about the Westboro Baptist Church. Has anybody done more damage to the public's opinion of the Westboro Baptist Church than they've done to themselves by saying the stupid things they say?

    Reason #1 to support hate speech as free speech: Because protection for hate speech does more than anything else to defeat the cause of racism, homophobia, etc., etc.

  • Alcibiades||

    Not heard from that bunch lately.
    They're all lawyers and I guess the business model no longer works.

    But they did do great things for First Amendment jurisprudence.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    "Westboro" may be quiet but we still have millions of dumbass Baptists.

  • Dillinger||

    yes.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I'd like to point out that France's hate speech laws have done Marine Le Pen a huge favor politically. She'd never have as much support as she does if it weren't for France's hate speech laws.

    Sure, Ken, sure. Next thing you're going to tell me is that rampant PC culture got us Donald Trump.

  • vek||

    You've apparently never spent much time listening to actual racists. I like to look at all sides of basically everything, and they're not all idiots. The ones the media tends to focus on are always the stupidest of the lot, like Richard Spencer, and even with them they misquote/take things out of context to make them look even worse than they really are.

    Go read some stuff on American Renaissance by Jared Taylor. He's a very soft spoken intellectual who simply has issues with multiculturalism, and believes there are statistical differences between some ethnicities. 50 years ago he wouldn't have even been called racist because he doesn't hate anybody, and he's actually a pretty big fan of Jews! He's eminently sane and rational, and also probably correct about a lot of things.

    Not saying your theory isn't true some of the time, but it certainly isn't ALL of the time.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    Crawl back to the FEderalist or Brietard, you white nationalist fuckface.

  • Ed Grinberg||

    What a clever, substantive retort! And not at all hateful!

  • Longtobefree||

    I was particularly impressed with the number of reliable, verifiable, citations.

  • vek||

    Sooo, somebody can't face up to the fact that facts exist, and sometimes they have implications. Facts like that culture matters... Which frankly is enough to have issues with multiculturalism. Not too crazy.

    Let alone the fact that there are globally consistent statistical differences between some ethnicities and others... You don't have to hate anybody to accept that there COULD be differences between groups ON AVERAGE. Which says nothing about any given individual mind you. Not too crazy. Also supported by science...

    Men and women, for instance, are not the same. We're not equal. We both have pros and cons. Society values many of the areas where men are better very highly, but we also value female strengths. Every bit of scientific evidence EVER supports the fact that men and women are fundamentally different, both physically AND mentally.

    Yet this doesn't mean I hate women. It means I accept women will never be as good as men at some things ON AVERAGE. But not that I hate them. Apply the same thinking to possible ethnic differences, and then you'll see it's not so crazy, or so evil.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    The right-wing politician faces prosecution and psychiatric examination for posting pictures of ISIS atrocities.

    This is a serious growing problem in the West and if we don't get a handle on it, or nip it in the bud, we're going to regret it and people are going to get hurt.

  • John I||

    An EU official recently argued they need continent wide regulation on the press and one of the reasons she wants said press regulation is because sometimes people say mean things about EU officials

    Link:

    "Racial abuse, discrimination and the "bad version of nationalism" that promotes exclusion and hatred are on the rise, and the media may need to be regulated to help curtail the problem, European Justice Commissioner Věra Jourová warned today."

    ""The media is "instrumental in holding politicians to account and in defining the limits of what is 'unacceptable' in a society," Jourová argued, before highlighting the front page of a British tabloid that labeled EU leaders "dirty rats.""

    Oh no! How could they say such negative things about their superiors in the EU bureaucracy!

  • Drave Robber||

    Really insulting to rats.

  • Muzzled Woodchipper||

    One might have thought the Brits had already told the EU to fuck off with Brexit.

  • GoatOnABoat||

    Next up, reeducation camps for the politically incorrect.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    "a message bearing a pornographic or violent character or a character seriously violating human dignity...where the message may be seen or perceived by a minor."

    Imagine, one of the greatest war documentaries, The World at War, narrated by Lawrence Olivier probably couldn't be shown or made today.

    I watched that documentary as a little kid and it had a profound effect on me.

  • Echo Chamber||

    Best. documentary. evah.

  • Nardz||

    History or the military channel used to run it.
    Watched just a decade ago - its amazing.
    Now all they show is fn "reality"

  • Sigivald||

    Someone still thinks any place in Europe is "enlightened"?

    Huh.

  • Dillinger||

    >>>France ranked 12 notches above the United States in this year's World Press Freedom Index

    Frenchies won World Cup and Davis Cup too wtf.

  • ||

    Don't remind me.

    A couple of favourable calls put Croatia in a bit of a hole.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Speaking of this, proof again that no industry, no endeavor is safe from this shit.

    The Culture War Comes to Linux
    After Linux adopted a new Code of Conduct, a small group of programmers threatened to rescind their code from the project. Lead Linux developers say the threat is "hollow."
  • Stevecsd||

    They have already deleted the page that Diane Reynolds posted. Try this one:
    https://fossbytes.com/linux-code-of-conduct/

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Huh, I still get there by clicking on my link, but ok. Thanks for yours as well.

  • vek||

    Dare I say it, but if women can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

    I'm so tired of all the SJW shit, but the whole "Women are as good as men at everything!" combined with "Women can't exist in the same environments as evil, men old men because they're too aggressive!" are contradictory.

    Getting shit done can be a harsh, abrasive, stressful process. If anybody out there thinks guys weren't getting their balls busted for fucking up, having bad ideas, or just not getting shit done on time while we were... I dunno... Trying to beat the USSR to land men on the FUCKING MOON, or develop the atomic bomb to win World War II... They're trippin'. Those were high stress situations, and MANY balls were being busted CONSTANTLY.

    High intensity shit is high intensity. If women can't sack up, they shouldn't be given any special leeway. If they NEED special treatment, then they're clearly not actually equal to men in these tasks, because being able to take the pressure IS part of what makes one capable in these situations.

    God this world is going to shit.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    France ranked 12 notches above the United States in this year's World Press Freedom Index, produced by Reporters Without Borders.

    I'm glad I read past 'produced by'. Now it makes sense.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    The implication does seem to be, as Le Pen's allies claim, that Bochter sees her political speech as a evidence of a mental disorder.

    I haven't read the entirety of the laws here, but wouldn't existence (or perceived existence) of a mental disorder get her off the hook? Isn't the point to find her competent and then they have cause to send her to prison?

  • OverWandersTelcon-tarian||

    Le Pen, who unsuccessfully ran against Emmanuel Macron in a presidential runoff last year, was stripped of her parliamentary immunity six months later, leaving her open to prosecution

    By any chance does this "immunity" apply to incumbents only?

  • Agammamon||

    . . . . a law like the one she is charged with violating would be clearly inconsistent with the First Amendment . . .makes it a crime . . . to distribute "a message bearing a pornographic . . . where the message may be seen or perceived by a minor."

    I'm sorry, but that's already illegal in the United States. For longer than I've been alive.
  • Just Say'n||

    Pretty messed up. We're no better than the French

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Wow, today is a gold mine.

    The comedian Norm Macdonald doesn't really do political comedy, which is itself a political stance that may require, at present, a defense more robust than he cares to muster:

    I remember when the press was annoyed that Microsoft didn't have lobbyists in Washington in their early days. It was seen as arrogant that they were attempting to remain detached from the political process.

  • Echo Chamber||

    "people hated Hillary Clinton so much that they voted for someone they hated even more just to spite her" - Norm Macdonald

  • Ed Grinberg||

    re: "The comedian Norm Macdonald doesn't really do political comedy, which is itself a political stance..."
    As far as Soviet authorities were concerned, it wasn't good enough for you to keep your mouth shut and refrain from criticizing the government. You had to actively, loudly support it, otherwise you'd be considered "politically suspect" and treated accordingly. The totalitarian mindset is alive and well at the New Yorker.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Also, just for the record, Sweden's prime minister was forced to resign the other day because of huge gains made by xenophobic party in Sweden's last election.

    "STOCKHOLM — Prime Minister Stefan Lofven of Sweden lost a vote of confidence on Tuesday after an election this month led to the ouster of his minority coalition and left the country with a hung Parliament, with both main political blocs refusing to cooperate with the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats.

    . . . .

    The Social Democrats got 28.3 percent of the vote, while the Moderate Party received 19.8 percent. The Sweden Democrats, which made great strides, picked up 17.5 percent. The center-left controls 144 seats and the center-right holds 143 seats in Parliament, while the Sweden Democrats have 62 lawmakers in the assembly.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2018/09.....dence.html

    The Sweden Democrats have their roots in the neo-Nazi movement. They've become more popular as they've been able to distance themselves from their past at the forefront of Swedish fascism. Again, using the government to threaten them from saying embarrassing, racist shit didn't hurt that cause at all. Congratulations, you stupid censors! It's doubtful that former neo-Nazis could have disrupted Swedish politics in the name of anti-immigration without your help making hate speech illegal.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    The paradox of tolerance was described by Karl Popper in 1945. The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant

    Wikipedia

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    That's why any criticism of the Muslim religion must be shut down.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Shrike has expressed intolerance for other religions in this very thread.

    Maybe he needs the government to threaten him into being intolerant. There will always be some psychiatric cases--even in Libertopia.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Maybe he needs the government to threaten him into being [tolerant]"

    You knew what I meant!

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I think there's a subtle point that you're missing about Karl Popper's paradox. Douglas Murray speaks to this specific issue on many occasions. He discusses the concepts of "tolerance" and how they relate to free speech, vis à vis... tolerated criticism of ideas.

    He discusses the continual "inclusion" of radical Imams (as one example) into the public discussion among academics and news media types, whereas various right-wing or extreme racist people are dismissed out of hand. Not banned by legal fiat, but dismissed as cranks or simply hateful extremists. He suggests the reason for this is because "We" (society) knows what to do with these groups. We know how to counter their arguments or just generally ignore them. But because of the unending tolerance of the left, especially that which is extended to various radical Imams, we don't seem to know what to do with people who preach extreme violence because we're literally not allowed to criticize them without being labeled as racists.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    No, I am not missing that since I agree completely.

    The left has a blind spot on Islam. And it is not just radical Islam. See Sam Harris and his essay on the tremendous harm done by moderates.

    THE VIRUS OF RELIGIOUS MODERATION

  • OverWandersTelcon-tarian||

    Which is why the electoral majority too stupid to resist Nazi propaganda when it hears it has to be put in charge of determining what is or isn't Nazi propaganda so it can be banned.

    Because they're too stupid to be expected to tell the difference between what is or isn't Nazi propaganda so they can resist it when they hear it.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Popper was right about a lot of things--especially his epistemology and his work on science.

    Soros may have followed Popper off the rails on some other issues.

  • Alcibiades||

    His contributions to political philosophy are greater and more significant I think.
    His star as philosopher of science as faded somewhat since his death.

  • vek||

    I've not looked into them in particular, but I'd bet my life the Sweden Democrats DID NOT come out of the "neo-Nazi" movement. I'd wager that's just the same horse shit they use to smear anybody right of Lenin. The fact that they're sane, rational, and realize hordes of immigrants with no desire to assimilate have moved to their country, and all of a sudden crime has skyrocketed, they have tons more rapes, murders, and no go zones in their cities... That's why they can't be tolerated. Pointing out facts that don't fit the fuzzy wuzzy utopian multicultural narrative doesn't make one a Nazi, it just makes one who can accurately perceive reality.

    Different groups integrate better/worse into different societies. This is simply a fact, despite white progs and left libertarians want to believe.

  • Ken Shultz||

    They were unapologetic fascists.

  • vek||

    Fascists are not all Nazis... If these guys were in fact actual fascists. Keep in mind Hitler wasn't the first fascist, and frankly out of the lot of them, he was really the only extra horrible one. The rest were pretty Casper Milquetoast as far as dictators go. On the plus side they DID save large swaths of the world from falling to Communism, so there's that. And none of them committed genocide, other than Hitler.

    But even being nationalistic, with right wing tendencies does not make one a fascist necessarily. If every right wing hard liner in the world is suddenly a LITERAL NAZI, then I guess the world is filled with people who want to gas 95% of the worlds population... But I would suspect that isn't the case with these people, or most other hard core right wingers. They just like their countries to remain THEIR countries. Maybe they don't like some other proggie shit. You can disagree, but that doesn't make one a fascist or a Nazi.

    99.9% of the time when I have seen the MSM call somebody a fascist or a Nazi, when I actually looked into it, they most certainly were not. As a default position I don't believe it when anybody is called a Nazi anymore, because it's always BS. If I'm wrong .1% of the time, oh well.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    Again, vek, take your white nationalist shtick back the Federalist so you can get handies from the other toothless hilbilly crackers.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    Again, vek, take your white nationalist shtick back the Federalist so you can get handies from the other toothless hilbilly crackers.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    Again, vek, take your white nationalist shtick back the Federalist so you can get handies from the other toothless hilbilly crackers.

  • vek||

    Ooooh, the tough guy on the internet thinks he knows me! Sorry but I live in a trendy coastal city, and make 6 figures. Granted I am planning on moving because this place has turned into a shithole in recent years, but I will be taking my 6 figure income with me.

    As far as things go, I'm not really a white nationalist in the US. I do believe in SANE immigration policies. It's a fact that a highly educated Japanese immigrant (or a Swede!) will fit in better and be more successful in the USA than an illiterate Somali, sorry if that makes me a horrible person. But I don't think we need to be 100% white.

    In the context of Europe, I'm a NATIONALIST period. I think that Swedish people deserve the right to maintain their homeland for their people. Since Swedes ARE white, I guess that makes me a white nationalist in Europe. Same for Germany, France, UK, etc. Funny thing is, I also respect the right of the Japanese to remain Japanese, and the Somalis to remain Somali. I don't think it's right for any group to be forced to give up their homeland. The fact that the political class is forcing this on populations that tend to show they don't want it in polling troubles me.

    Of course in the current situation ONLY white nations are being forced to be out numbered in their own homelands by immigration... But I imagine it won't be long before the progs try to force Japan, Korea, etc to change their policies which are very stringent. Hopefully they ignore the progs.

  • vek||

    Your knee jerk stupidity doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The fact is that multiculturalism is showing itself to be an abject failure BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES. Yet you can't concede the fact. All of history shows it causing war, strife, bloodshed, etc... But people somehow thought this time utopia would emerge from tossing together people who share almost no values, culture, religion, etc.

    Well, it didn't. It's just managed to make countries unstable, and turn 1st world countries shittier. So can we stop the failed experiment already? Just because you WANT something to work a certain way doesn't mean it will. I like the idea of multiculturalism, a big warm fuzzy planet, everybody jerking each other off in harmony and all that... But it just doesn't work. Deal with it.

    Now why don't you go commit suicide or something you SJW pussy.

  • ||

    "France ranked 12 notches above the United States in this year's World Press Freedom Index, produced by Reporters Without Borders."

    What a bloody joke.

    A disgrace really.

    The French are out of their damn minds.

  • Hank Phillips||

    It was a mistake to save France from the other National Socialists. Vichy France changed its motto from Liberté, Fraternité, Egalité to Travail, Famille, Patrie (work, family, fatherland) as soon as possible. Our parents should have let them pay reparations to les Boche the way they did after surrendering in 1872.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "Supposedly Enlightened France"

    Never supposed by me.

  • vek||

    This stuff is terrifying. They're been slowly moving on this whole "political dissent is literally a form of mental illness" thing for a long while now... As if people who have a better knowledge of history, philosophy, economics, and actually use logic to come to different conclusions than are approved by the left are somehow the crazy ones!

    I'm tellin' ya, if something dramatic doesn't change across the entire western world soon, the left is either going to be literally putting people in camps, or the right is going to be putting leftists in camps. And I really don't see anything much changing anytime soon...

  • No Yards Penalty||

    Stupid frogs.
    Maybe they should just stick to stitching white flags so they're prepared to surrender next time the shooting starts.

  • Longtobefree||

    Of course she IS batshit crazy.
    That broad put true facts on the web where anyone can find them!
    This has got to stop!

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