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Ron Paul–Backed Libertarian Senate Candidate Murray Sabrin Not Getting Polled Despite Running Against Robert Menendez

What does it take for a strong third-party candidate to get polled against a scandal-plagued incumbent? His own money, turns out.

||| Sabrin For SenateSabrin For SenateSen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is not the only member of the Paul family to endorse a Libertarian Party candidate for the U.S. Senate this year. His father, Ron Paul—a longtime Republican congressman and three-time presidential candidate (twice with the GOP, once with the L.P.)—last month endorsed his 2008 New Jersey campaign spokesman Murray Sabrin in a race against scandal-plagued incumbent Democrat Robert Menendez and moderate Republican pharmaceuticals executive Bob Hugin.

"I am pleased to endorse my good friend of 35 years Murray Sabrin for United States Senate," the elder Paul said in his endorsement. "Murray's dedication to, and knowledge of, the principles of liberty will make him an effective advocate for freeing the people of New Jersey—and the Nation—from excessive taxes, debt, and inflation, as well as ending the ongoing violations of our right to free speech, property, and privacy. Murray will also be an outspoken Senator for peaceful relations with other nations, and work to ensure that our immigration policies adhere to common sense solutions like his proposal to have immigrants obtain sponsors so they can assimilate and become financially independent."

Ron Paul has not made a habit out of endorsing Libertarians—declining, for example, to endorse presidential nominee Gary Johnson in 2016 or 2012, and backing the Constitution Party's Chuck Baldwin in 2008. Making the endorsement even more significant that Sabrin is an unusually strong candidate, running against an unusually weak incumbent.

A longtime economist and educator who is strongly anti-war and pro-life, Sabrin owns the seventh-highest percentage of any Libertarian Party gubernatorial campaign in the party's 47-year history, earning 4.7 percent of New Jersey's vote in 1997. Switching to the Republican Party, he finished fourth, with 19.4 percent, in a tight four-way primary for Senate in 2014. (The winner, Jeff Bell, got 29.4 percent, then lost to incumbent Cory Booker by 14 percentage points in the general.)

And yet, like similarly strong L.P. Senate candidates in the toss-up states of Indiana and Nevada, Sabrin is generally not being polled, appearing only in a Gravis Marketing survey that his campaign paid for. There he pulled a respectable 7 percent, to Menendez's 40 and Hugin's 30. The race is widely considered to be a "lean D," but as columnist George Will has pointed out, support for the shabby Menendez has been weak in this strongly Democratic state.

"New Jersey Democrats—they outnumber Republicans by nearly 900,000—powered Menendez to a 19-point victory six years ago," Will wrote. But in the Democratic primary in June, "his opponent won 37.8 percent of the vote while spending next to nothing—not enough to require filing any financial statement." Even in two-way polls, Menendez hasn't topped 43 percent since April, with as many as 46 percent of respondents in one case declaring themselves undecided. This isn't your standard race.

To reiterate a point that apparently requires periodic repetition, polls that don't include strong third-party candidates in contested races amount to journalistic malpractice. You don't know what's going on in the New Jersey Senate race if you're not asking about Murray Sabrin.

Photo Credit: Sabrin for Senate

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  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    If Ron likes him, then you know the guy is a real libertarian.

    Hold on just a second, NOW you're a Ron Paul fan once again?? You fucking shameless, pathetic, duplicitous hack.

  • Just Say'n||

    You've set Welch up for a Catch-22. It's almost like nothing will please you

  • Just Say'n||

    You've set Welch up for a Catch-22. It's almost like nothing will please you

  • Aloysious||

    I'm kind of disappointed you didn't refer to Matt as a Weigeltard.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Do libertarians really think that the press is not going to be in the bag for the Democrat just because you are not Republicans?

  • Just Say'n||

    Yes, some of them naively believe that. Others are at least more practical and just want to change what "libertarian" means to basically Rockefeller Republicans who are squishy on that whole shrinking government part.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    You don't know what's going on in the New Jersey Senate race if you're not asking about Murray Sabrin.

    You don't know what's going on in the New Jersey Senate race if you think Murray Sabrin could or should win. The practical issue involves the distance between Murray Sabrin and the runnerup.

  • colorblindkid||

    But he could swing the race, especially if Dems who are disgusted by Menendez but won't vote Republican opt for any third guy running.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Mr. Sabrin seems equally likely to siphon votes of disaffected Republicans from an unpopular right-winger. I do not expect him to swing much of anything, including an invitation to any debate(s).

  • Gozer the Gozarian||

    So you're not going to support him? Not going to donate some coin to his campaign?

    If you're not going to support him that's your business. But realize it's the cocksuckers like you who bitch about shit and never do a goddamn thing to advocate any change by supporting the people who can actually bring it about.

    You're an apathetic fuck. Murray is in it to win it, and I am in his corner. If you don't advocate for the candidates, pack your shit up and get off the fucking Internet.

    Pig fucker.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Mr. Sabrin is an active member of Libertarians For Big-Government Womb Management and State Micromanagement Of Certain Clinics For Women. He also is a leader of Libertarians For Cruel, Bigoted, Authoritarian Immigration Restrictions. He apparently lacks the courage needed to identify his views on abortion, Israel, wall-building, and other right-wing positions at his campaign website.

    Mr. Sabrin is in it to lose it, regardless of whether you recognize that, and he should lose because a libertarian who toes the right-wing line on immigration, abortion, and other issues is a paltry facsimile of a libertarian.

  • Gozer the Gozarian||

    I follow the 80/20 rule. If he's covered 80% of what I agree with, I can deal with the other 20%.

    You are worse than a religious fanatic. If the candidate isn't "libertarian enough" for you, you discard them like trash?

    It's fucked up reasoning like yours that prevents any candidates from becoming viable. Don't bitch because you're part of the problem.

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    Mr. Sabrin is an active member of Libertarians For Big-Government Womb Management and State Micromanagement Of Certain Clinics For Women. He also is a leader of Libertarians For Cruel, Bigoted, Authoritarian Immigration Restrictions. He apparently lacks the courage needed to identify his views on abortion, Israel, wall-building, and other right-wing positions at his campaign website.

    Mr. Sabrin is in it to lose it, regardless of whether you recognize that, and he should lose because a libertarian who toes the right-wing line on immigration, abortion, and other issues is a paltry facsimile of a libertarian.

  • Gozer the Gozarian||

    I will be voting for Murray.

    And for all of the fucking mouth-breathers who are discounting his viability as a candidate: If you don't want to fucking support your local candidate with your vote, don't shit on my local candidate because he's a long shot. He becomes less of a long shot with every supporting vote.

    I'm here to grow support for our local candidates, not shit all over them for being long shots.

    And some of you fucktards wonder why the support and voting percentages are so low. You're helping the poplitical cartels with your apathy. Their overlords thank you.

  • Dillinger||

    beautiful pitch.

  • Conchfritters||

    Fuckin A right Gozer.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    apparently requires periodic repetition

    Try aperiodic next time.

  • BYODB||

    I admit I tend to laugh when I see statements like 'strongest showing for a libertarian yet!' and then I look down and it's something like 5%.

  • mferguson||

    I think most of these "journalists" are just stupid and/or lazy, so don't even consider 3rd party candidates... they may not even be aware they exist.

  • Jeff Scott||

    Besides the rigged polling, even public radio is in on the duopoly game. We have 45 L candidates in North Carolina including 4 Congressional candidates, 2nd only to Texas!

    Our local station in Charlotte, WFAE, is soliciting questions from the public for the 2 candidates EXCEPT the 3rd candidate, moi! C'est la vie!

    Go here to protest:
    http://www.wfae.org/post/9th-d.....r#stream/0

    Ask a question starting with "For Libertarian Candidate, Jeff Scott,..."

    Much appreciated.

    And if you are interested you can read my one and only Reason article from 1993:
    https://reason.com/archives/1993/02/01/gekko-echo

    lpmeck.org/Jeff-Scott

  • Gozer the Gozarian||

    Question posted. I love how they locked their comments section at the bottom of the article.

  • Jeff Scott||

    Thank you!

    You can go to the FB page where you can still comment:

    https://www.facebook.com/WFAE/

  • Gozer the Gozarian||

    Yeah, I don't do FB. I'm not going to volunteer my data to one of the world's largest personal data harvesters.

  • Jeff Scott||

    I got contacted by them, so the swarming worked.

    Thanks to all who participated.

    Jeff Scott, LPMeck

  • JFree||

    Libertarians have got to stop giving a damn about polls. It's lazy as fuck - and counterproductive as well since the only purpose of polls is to manipulate voters.

    Start doing the groundwork needed to get support.

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