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Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet: Reason Roundup

Plus: Testing telemedicine abortion and 3D printed guns.

Douglas Christian/ZUMA Press/NewscomDouglas Christian/ZUMA Press/NewscomAll your base are belong to us. A leaked memo circulating among Senate Democrats contains a host of bonkers authoritarian proposals for regulating digital platforms, purportedly as a way to get tough on Russian bots and fake news. To save American trust in "our institutions, democracy, free press, and markets," it suggests, we need unprecedented and undemocratic government intervention into online press and markets, including "comprehensive (GDPR-like) data protection legislation" of the sort enacted in the E.U.

Titled "Potential Policy Proposals for Regulation of Social Media and Technology Firms," the draft policy paper—penned by Sen. Mark Warner and leaked by an unknown source to Axios—the paper starts out by noting that Russians have long spread disinformation, including when "the Soviets tried to spread 'fake news' denigrating Martin Luther King" (here he fails to mention that the Americans in charge at the time did the same). But NOW IT'S DIFFERENT, because technology.

"Today's tools seem almost built for Russian disinformation techniques," Warner opines. And the ones to come, he assures us, will be even worse.

Here's how Warner is suggesting we deal:

Mandatory location verification. The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts.

Mandatory identity verification: The paper suggests forcing social media and tech platforms to authenticate user identities and only allow "authentic" accounts ("inauthentic accounts not only pose threats to our democratic process...but undermine the integrity of digital markets"), with "failure to appropriately address inauthentic account activity" punishable as "a violation of both SEC disclosure rules and/or Section 5 of the [Federal Trade Commission] Act."

Bot labeling: Warner's paper suggests forcing companies to somehow label bots or be penalized (no word from Warner on how this is remotely feasible)

Define popular tech as "essential facilities." These would be subject to all sorts of heightened rules and controls, says the paper, offering Google Maps as an example of the kinds of apps or platforms that might count. "The law would not mandate that a dominant provider offer the serve for free," writes Warner. "Rather, it would be required to offer it on reasonable and non-discriminatory terms" provided by the government.

Other proposals include more disclosure requirements for online political speech, more spending to counter supposed cybersecurity threats, more funding for the Federal Trade Commission, a requirement that companies' algorithms can be audited by the feds (and this data shared with universities and others), and a requirement of "interoperability between dominant platforms."

The paper also suggests making it a rule that tech platforms above a certain size must turn over internal data and processes to "independent public interest researchers" so they can identify potential "public health/addiction effects, anticompetitive behavior, radicalization," scams, "user propagated misinformation," and harassment—data that could be used to "inform actions by regulators or Congress."

And—of course— these include further revisions to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, recently amended by Congress to exclude protections for prostitution-related content. A revision to Section 230 could provide the ability for users to demand takedowns of certain sorts of content and hold platforms liable if they don't abide, it says, while admitting that "attempting to distinguish between true disinformation and legitimate satire could prove difficult."

"The proposals in the paper are wide ranging and in some cases even politically impossible, and raise almost as many questions as they try to answer," suggested Mathew Ingram, putting it very mildly at the Columbia Journalism Review.

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Telemedicine abortion test sanctioned by FDA. "A nonprofit group is testing whether it's safe to let women take abortion pills in their own homes after taking screening tests and consulting with a doctor on their phones or computers," notes Politico.

The group, called Gynuity Health Projects, is carrying out the trial in five states that already allow virtual doctors to oversee administration of the abortion pill, and may expand to others. If the trial proves that allowing women to take the pill at home is safe—under a virtual doctor's supervision—the group hopes the FDA could eventually loosen restrictions to allow women to take pills mailed to them after the consult.

If FDA took that step, it could even help women in states with restrictive abortion laws get around them, potentially blurring the strict boundaries between abortion laws in different states if—as is likely—the Senate confirms a high court justice who is open to further limits on Roe.

Meanwhile, a rapidly increasing number of state attorneys general are suing over whether its safe to let people print guns in their own homes, after the group Defense Distributed posting of 3D-printed gun plans online.

QUICK HITS

  • Civil rights activist and former judge Faya Rose Touré, 73, "is facing charges of fourth-degree theft and attempting to elude a police officer after she led cops on a four-block chase through the city," reports The Appeal. "Touré was the first Black female judge in Alabama and founder of the National Voting Rights Museum and Institute in Selma."
  • The publisher of an upcoming book by renowned journalist Bob Woodward is promising that it "reveals in unprecedented detail the harrowing life inside President Donald Trump's White House and precisely how he makes decisions on major foreign and domestic policies."
  • "As a person seeking 'substantive change,' [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] insisted, she was bound to be told 'you're crazy' or 'you don't know anything,'" writes Charles C.W. Cooke. "Perhaps she was. But do you know who else is told they're crazy and don't know anything? Crazy people who don't know anything."
  • A former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency personnel department is under investigation for allegedly hiring "college friends and women he encountered on online dating sites, and then, he is accused of transferring some of those women into departments where his friends worked, so that his friends could have sex with them."

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Who says the left is hostile to free speech?

  • ||

    Hello.

    Cortez.

    She's got the eyes of a stranger.

  • krusatyr||

    The sort of eyes that could watch statist bloody slaughter while touching up her nails on the balcony. Now drunk on adoration from young bolsheviks, she will soon don a beret and orgasm as capitalists are gutted in her courtyard .

  • Dixon Sider Woodchipper||

    Meh, I'd watch her orgasm.

  • Cy||

    How can they make sure your speech is the right kind of free if they don't control it all?

  • Rebel Scum||

    "Clearly we need commonsense speech control. What do you mean that is expressly prohibited by the constitution? Forget that. It's commonsense! Therefor we must do it!"

  • Cy||

    I know! We'll get the SCOTUS to enforce our Tyr-... common sense initiatives! Because if they rewri-... intepret the law the way we wa-... the way it was intended, than we won't have to convince these idi-... citizens of how right we always are!

  • Quixote||

    Clearly the Internet does need to be regulated, and in the firmest possible way, especially as regards anonymity and the Trolls. How else are we to stop the purveyors of inappropriately deadpan "satire"? Indeed, New York's highest court, as well as the Second Circuit, have created a striking precedent in this regard. See the documentation of our nation's leading criminal "parody" case at:

    https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Hate speech isn't free speech"

    They'll write that above the entrance instead of "Arbeit Macht Frei".

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    In emoticons.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Everybody who's paying attention.

  • DPJGEN||

    Perhaps b/c free speech means they have to admit there are those who don't agree with them. The left loves free speech when it comes to riots, burning cop cars, businesses, but hate free speech when it comes to the internet and social media.

  • DoctorJ||

    Everyone!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    .@foxandfriends playing a clip of Limbaugh this morning egging on Trump's threat to shut down the government over wall funding: "Trump is showing he is not afraid of a government shutdown which, believe me, the base of this party loves... The Republican base is Trump's now." https://t.co/QOW6FKGq46
    — Alex Mallin (@alex_mallin) July 31, 2018

    Libertarian moment.

  • Rebel Scum||

  • Flinch||

    A shutdown my eye. About 90% of the government is exempt from this theatre for idiots, and the remainder always gets remunerated afterwards. Only private contractors suffer, in that lost time on bids may result in overruns down the road. Congress can declare itself critical at will and keep their paychecks flowing, so if they don't show up it's more of a union shop tactic than a reality driven event. I don't give a crap what they do - the senate is in a coma anyway, and Ryan won't grab one single agenda item of any type [good or bad] if the mob bosses of the senate don't green light his calendar. Useless twits... declare it a national holiday for all I care, and make it last until 2019.

  • DPJGEN||

    I've been through several Clinton shutdowns when I was active duty. Really...you can't find anyone who is truly affected by a gov't shutdown. So you can't get into a national park. Okay, try again later. But no one's life is turned upside down at all.

  • CDRSchafer||

    Last government shutdown I was at Big Bend National Park. So I went to Big Bend State Park which is pretty much the same place.

    Great thing is that I am a federal employee so instead of taking four days of leave I was furloughed and got retro pay for them, preserving my leave days.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    The cast of Guardians of the Galaxy are taking a stand to reinstate James Gunn.

    The cast of Roseanne are creating a spinoff without her.

  • Longtobefree||

    No discrimination here, move along

  • lap83||

    That's just Hollywood for you. Pedophilia is much more acceptable in the industry than racist comments.

  • Cy||

    Remember, benefiting financially for years for encouraging Harvey Weinstein's actions makes you a 'vitcim.'

  • ||

    One, I hope the Roseanne spin off fails miserably.

    Two, I wonder just how real this pedophile in Hollywood thing is. There's an actor going going full Feldman on youtube and Twitter - I forget his name.

    Is this a case of where there's smoke or is it just a conspiracy theory and disturbed minds are selling it?

    Personally, it wouldn't surprise me either way.

  • Shirley Knott||

    Pretty sure it's both.

  • Rebel Scum||

    I hope the Roseanne spin off fails miserably.

    I don't see why it wouldn't. No matter what they call it, it will still be Roseane without Roseane.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Failing miserably would be considered success, as the series' worst offense was being successful and not left-wing.

  • ||

    Correct, Hollyweird rapes little black kids and much as white ones.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Civil rights activist and former judge Faya Rose Touré, 73, "is facing charges of fourth-degree theft and attempting to elude a police officer after she led cops on a four-block chase through the city," reports The Appeal.

    Can't campaign signs count as violence?

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    AKA how to drink Budweiser.

    NY Times: How to Have Sex in a Canoe

  • Cy||

    Do you want to find out if you and your partner can really make it through life together? Go canoeing or kayaking in a two person kayak.

  • krusatyr||

    I did that canoe test, the girlfriend fell out into the Blue River during spring run off, then just let the raging, boulder tumbling river take her like a rag doll without a single shout or any effort whatsoever to get to the bank.

    I dove in and swam with the current and got her out, hearing the clashing of boulders the whole time. Have never understood how a human with beauty and brains could exhibit no will to survive, so of course didn't marry her.

  • Rebel Scum||

    Wear a life-vest.

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    Bulletproof life vest...

    Maybe my ex-wife has biased my expectations

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The publisher of an upcoming book by renowned journalist Bob Woodward is promising that it "reveals in unprecedented detail the harrowing life inside President Donald Trump's White House and precisely how he makes decisions on major foreign and domestic policies."

    So he's just aggregating all the leaks?

  • Longtobefree||

    Plus a little creative non-citing bullshit.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Not all the leaks. He left out the ones from the Russian hookers.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    People are offering [Ginsburg] organs...
    Sheesh... Planned Parenthood sells them if she needs them.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Manchester bomber was rescued from Libya years before concert slaughter: reports
    The suicide bomber responsible for killing 22 people at an Ariana Grande concert was reportedly rescued by the British Royal Navy from the Libyan civil war three years before the atrocity.

    Salman Abedi, his brother and another 100 British citizens were evacuated from the deteriorating situation in Tripoli in 2014 by the HMS Enterprise, Sky News reported Tuesday.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    You beat me to it. His parents were "refugees" by the way.

  • ||

    Just remember, Camp Of Saints is a sick, racist dystopia, no one should read it, and all good-thinking individuals should burn it wherever they find it.

  • Flinch||

    Man, I wished you hadn't dragged up Shikha [soon to be part of the DSM]. My morning was going so well...

  • Fancylad||

    Shikha's just one twitter post away from a cushy editorial position at the NYT.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Perhaps she was. But do you know who else is told they're crazy and don't know anything? Crazy people who don't know anything."

    And also Hitler.

  • Longtobefree||

    Well, maybe. But there was no one alive to claim they told Hitler he was crazy and didn't know anything. At least after the night of the long knives.

  • Alan Vanneman||

    But do you know who else was told they're crazy and don't know anything? Donald Trump.

  • damikesc||

    Ironically, that piece assumed the comment you made. Way to play to expectations!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Trump is showing he is not afraid of a government shutdown which, believe me, the base of this party loves

    Shutdowns not kneel downs!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency personnel department is under investigation for allegedly hiring "college friends and women he encountered on online dating sites, and then, he is accused of transferring some of those women into departments where his friends worked, so that his friends could have sex with them."

    See? FEMA is good for something besides writing checks.

  • General_Tso||

    The UN must be pissed that FEMA is muscling in on their territory

  • Bee Tagger||

    "Perhaps she was. But do you know who else is told they're crazy and don't know anything?

    I think Fist knows the answer to this one.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ALREADY HANDLED.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Total newsroom employment in the US is down 23 percent from 2008 to 2017, from 114,000 newsroom staffers to 88,000. https://t.co/wIKCt6IQqf
    — Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) July 31, 2018

    Remove the fake newsroom employees and you're down to just three people.

  • Bee Tagger||

    "he is accused of transferring some of those women into departments where his friends worked, so that his friends could have sex with them."

    either i dont understand how organizational structures work or this person doesn't. there's no middle ground here.

  • damikesc||

    Remember, "serious" conservatives like George Will think we need to let this happen because...Trump.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Let what happen?

  • damikesc||

    Dems take over Congress.

    Will feels conservatives need to vote for Democrats because Trump is icky.

    Sure, they will stifle rights and all --- small price to pay to rebuke Trump for being rude and all.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "A nonprofit group is testing whether it's safe to let women take abortion pills in their own homes after taking screening tests and consulting with a doctor on their phones or computers," notes Politico.

    Max Headroom: Baby Killer

  • BYODB||

    I've been saying for years that, somewhat ironically, the left is eventually going to push abortion to the point where back alley coat-hanger abortions are protected. Which, of course, was why abortion was made legal. So back alley coat-hanger abortions wouldn't be done anymore, for women's safety.

    Having taken an inch, they demand a mile.

  • perlchpr||

    Even though I can buy a perfectly safe pump shotgun for $100, it's still my right to make a shitty one-shot zip-gun that might kill me out of black iron pipe from Home Depot.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    To save American trust in "our institutions, democracy, free press, and markets," it suggests, we need unprecedented and undemocratic government intervention into online press and markets, including "comprehensive (GDPR-like) data protection legislation" of the sort enacted in the E.U.

    It's about time someone stepped up to address the social media scourge.

  • Ron||

    you know the saying never let a trumped up imaginary crisis go to waste

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts.

    AND THEN HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT.

  • damikesc||

    Total newsroom employment in the US is down 23 percent from 2008 to 2017, from 114,000 newsroom staffers to 88,000.

    Why should I mourn people in a dying industry losing their jobs? Shouldn't they learn skills that are needed?

    Reason, you can't pull this "aww, poor journalists" when you have the exact same beliefs I cited for miners, etc.

  • John||

    I have it on good authority that communities with dying industries deserve to die.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Where is the part asking you to mourn?

  • lap83||

    Then why the "free minds" subheading?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Maybe ENB is suggesting their minds are free now to start a blog.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Because that's the category it best fits in of the ones they use each day?

  • Sometimes a Great Notion||

    Because they don't really put too much time or effort into the category selection process?

  • Just Say'n||

    When a coal miner loses his job journalists mock him. So seeing them lose their jobs, makes me exceedingly happy.

  • ||

    n-tuply so because lots and lots of journalists went to school a decade or two ago when everyone everywhere (at least everywhere I went) people was saying that they were graduating something like 10X the number of journalists as there were paying jobs. Meanwhile, the coal miners got up every morning and did the same job their education could afford them and/or their fathers and their fathers before them did.

    Just teach the journalists to code. They can help build the next Angry Birds, Facebook, or Twitter that's going to turn this economy around.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Always could use more coders.

  • BYODB||

    So-called 'Legacy Media' is dying a slow death by a million hot takes.

    Amusingly, I have an undergraduate degree in journalism and it was one of the biggest wastes of time and money of my life. All I learned is that media and the people behind it are basically idiots incapable of any actual work, and it's shocking how many journalism students never got the memo that journalism is not the place for activism. What's more shocking is that most people don't realize that it's always been that way.

    Most journalism majors think that journalism is where you go for activism, which explains most legacy media outlets. Shit, that explains this publication when it comes right down to it but at least Reason doesn't claim 'fair and unbiased' as their motto.

  • General_Tso||

    Cobblers, coopers and typewriter repairmen (can I say that?) agree.

  • perlchpr||

    Buggy-whip braiders.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Is it possible to repurpose a journalist to more productive work?

  • CDRSchafer||

    They'll need extensive re-education to rid them of all the progressive idiocy that's been stuffed into their skulls. Tall order.

  • RJ The Terrible||

    If the re-education involves water boarding them until they scream 'free markets' or 'repeal the Sherman Anti-Trust act' can we finally re-purpose Guantanamo?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Mandatory location verification. The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts.

    their concern for abused women continues to underwhelm.

  • Mike Laursen||

    Umm, Democrats, it ain't hard to fake location.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The paper suggests forcing social media and tech platforms to authenticate user identities and only allow "authentic" accounts ("inauthentic accounts not only pose threats to our democratic process...but undermine the integrity of digital markets"), with "failure to appropriately address inauthentic account activity" punishable as "a violation of both SEC disclosure rules and/or Section 5 of the [Federal Trade Commission] Act."

    AND THEN HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    To be fair, the reasoning here is better than most "and then Hillary becomes President" scenarios. It would take some degree of media censorship.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Warner's paper suggests forcing companies to somehow label bots or be penalized (no word from Warner on how this is remotely feasible)

    BUT THEN HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Bot labeling

    if a bot makes mayo without eggs, can it be accurately labeled?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Artisanal Slather.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    But labeling will effectively eliminate the Reason commentariat.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    No GMO bots.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    These would be subject to all sorts of heightened rules and controls, says the paper, offering Google Maps as an example of the kinds of apps or platforms that might count.

    AND THEN HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT.

  • Conchfritters||

    I think your on to something.

  • John||

    Privacy and free speech go hand in hand. Often unpopular views can only be spoken anonymously. The Democrats understand this and want to require identity verification so that their SJW mobs can go after anyone that voices a dissenting view. They want to be able to ruin the lives and careers of anyone who voices an opinion they find objectionable.

  • Rhywun||

    As bad as their public policies are, it's eye-opening to hear just how much worse their secret plans are. I wonder what else they're cooking up because "Russia!"

  • John||

    The real threat is China. I honestly wonder how many of them are on the Chinese payroll.

  • BYODB||

    At this point? Most of them, Republicans included.

    It's too profitable not to be on China's side. And who really gives fucks if their environmental policies are equivalent to 1870's America, right? Certainly not the left.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    Whatever you say, "John", if that's even your real name.

  • Sometimes a Great Notion||

    Distrust & caution are the parents of security.

    - Poor Richard ,who ever that guy really was.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Say goodbye to Twitter if this happens. Granted, there are very good arguments for killing Twitter, but still....

  • Ron||

    they don't want verification of voters but they want verification of speakers

    as FOE would say
    AND THEN HILLARY BECOMES PRESIDENT

  • Rebel Scum||

    Titled "Potential Policy Proposals for Regulation of Social Media and Technology Firms," the draft policy paper—penned by Sen. Mark Warner

    My states senators are such tools.

  • Rebel Scum||

    "Today's tools seem almost built for Russian Democrat/Republican/etc disinformation techniques," Warner opines.

    Information travels on the internet. Deal with it.

  • Rebel Scum||

    Mandatory location verification, Mandatory identity verification, Define popular tech as "essential facilities."

    Authoritarian windbag is an authoritarian. It sounds like he wants to nationalize Google and social media platforms. Has he considered that Der Drumpenfuhrer himself would preside over this? Mark Warner is not a serous person.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Here is the upshot of what Flake is doing:

    Mitch McConnell kept the Senate in session in August (instead of recessing), so they could confirm Trump's judicial nominees, but Flake took his own recess for most of August. He's on judiciary, so now they can't confirm the judges.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    @JamesHasson20

    So, nominees that have not already gotten out of committee will be stuck there. Nominees that gotten out of committee and are awaiting a floor vote will now require Pence to break the 49-49 tie—which means Pence has to stay in DC to break ties instead of campaign for R candidates

    Jeff Flake is screwing the GOP caucus (and conservative causes generally, by slowing pace of confirmations). And he's either doing it intentionally or he's doing it because he just doesn't care and would rather vacation.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    This is why he's retiring. He hates his own party, and was tired of wearing a mask in order to be electable.

  • John||

    He is just an asshole. If he doesn't think these judges should be confirmed, he should show up and say so and vote against them. It is funny how the people who scream the loudest about Trump being a bad person always turn out to be exactly what they claim Trump is.

  • damikesc||

    But he is libertarian-leaning or something....

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    So Arizona has zero representation in the Senate right now.

    Maybe Flake will be killed in Zimbabwe.

  • Flinch||

    I think that's well outside of ebola territory, so odds are slim to none. Is it time for the Arizona legislature to act, and vacate McCain's seat for non-performance of duties? He ran on their ballot and we are clearly past a line that screams fraud in maintaining state recognition of his position. Guy hasn't voted on anything for almost a year I think? Good or bad, a legislative recall is in order - the state is not being represented.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Technically, I think the Senate would have to act on that argument, not the Arizona legislature.

  • Henry||

    And yet zero representation is way better than the negative representation those two a*es have provided

  • Just Say'n||

    Flake is really looking forward to that new MSNBC gig

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Someone's gotta backfill suderman or Robby after they vox.

  • Flinch||

    Nothing new: senate republicans are blocking Trump by blocking his appointments via any method. I'd rather they just voted no if they oppose the president this much and make their arguments. Jellyfish are majestic creatures by comparison to a US senator.

  • Conchfritters||

    A former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency personnel department is under investigation for allegedly hiring "college friends and women he encountered on online dating sites, and then, he is accused of transferring some of those women into departments where his friends worked, so that his friends could have sex with them.

    Brilliant. That's illegal?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    On my dime, it better be.

  • Rhywun||

    GDPR-like

    My mind went immediately to Stasi for some reason.

  • Rich||

    To save American trust in "our institutions, democracy, free press, and markets," it suggests, we need unprecedented and undemocratic government intervention into online press and markets

    I'll just leave this here.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Maybe the people stealing our identities will vote better.

  • Rich||

    Now, *that* is looking on the bright side.

  • Just Say'n||

    Oh my God, that's totes different. China is our ally or something. History didn't begin until 2016. Get your war on, you stupid Russia bot!

  • Flinch||

    5M sets of fingerprints...so much for biometric security. What wasn't penetrated on 44s watch?

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Manchester bomber Salman Abedi was rescued by the British Royal Navy from the Libyan civil war just three years earlier. Boy, talk about your all time backfires!

    Abedi was a British child of Libyan "refugees" by the way. This is how these people repay the kindness of the west.

  • Rhywun||

    I don't get it. Was he "rescued" from the Libyan civil war, or participating in it?

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    I think it was kind of both.

  • ||

    I don't get it. Was he "rescued" from the Libyan civil war, or participating in it?

    Get the fuck outta here with your extreme vetting bullshit!

  • Longtobefree||

    Better that they just outlaw social media.
    Or require "news organizations" to only publish/post/broadcast things that are confirmed facts, citing at least two named, verifiable, reliable sources. (As of now, for instance, NYT & WaPo are not reliable)
    Or better yet, both of those.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    Or require "news organizations" to only publish/post/broadcast things that are confirmed facts, citing at least two named, verifiable, reliable sources.

    Not a big fan of freedom of the press, I see.

  • Flinch||

    Who's doing the confirming? A group of dnc vetted SJW's cloistered in a lawyers office sub leased by the SEIU [to help wash money around]? Thats 5x worse than what's going on now. The market is making the corrections for us, I note - fakebook stock is hammered this month, and progressive rag circulation remains depressed, so all is well.
    I love having the NYT call me to try and sell a subscription, and my answer is always the same: how much are you going to pay me [for subjecting myself to your publication]? They forget every few years and try again, the dolts.
    I don't know what the trigger will be to break the template of NYT and AP wire propaganda journalists have become addicted to for a daily starting point like mindless automatons, but it will break at some point - wire services are fully polluted by multiple government agencies around the globe. In fact, I think that's why northeast journalists went gaga when twitter hit the scene - it was something new that represented a lifeline not yet hectored by media company policies or case law. Too bad most teleprompter readers are c students, and got swept up buy bots and entertainment agents leading them around by the nose. Still, stasis is the most un-natural thing under the sun.
    Let twitter and its bumper sticker brains survive or implode on its own - outlawing social media will just prolong the problem in the same way FDR's "solutions" took a massive recession and made it last ten times longer than it should have.

  • Rich||

    it "reveals in unprecedented detail ... precisely how he makes decisions on major foreign and domestic policies."

    Screw that, Bob. I wanna know how he decides on what to tweet.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Trump says Koch brothers are a 'total joke'

    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump railed Tuesday against billionaire conservative brothers Charles and David Koch, accusing them of being against key components of his populist agenda and suggesting they're irrelevant in today's Republican Party.

    Trump's public attack, following a weekend in which he was criticized at a Koch network summer meeting, comes amid speculation that the Koch brothers are reconsidering their typically full-throated support for Republican candidates during the midterm elections.
    "The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don't need their money or bad ideas," Trump tweeted Tuesday morning. "They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more."

    CNN

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    I'm really starting to think this Trump fellow can't handle criticism very well.

  • John||

    So how does one handle criticism well? Why isn't "go fuck yourself", a valid response to criticism? I am beginning to think that people's biggest problem with Trump is that he doesn't try and kiss their asses enough.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    One sign of not handling criticism well is the need to respond to every single mention of your name regardless of how irrelevant it is to anything. Sometimes it makes more sense to just let it pass.

  • John||

    Sure but sometimes it is not the best thing. Trump knows a lot more about manipulating the media and public opinion than I ever will. So, I imagine he has a reason for doing this.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Yea, $parkY the hypocrite.

  • Flinch||

    And for some, criticism is confirmation of arrival: mixed reviews are sometimes proof you hit the nail on the head, and made people think [or at least have some independant thought]. Going for all accolades is often just wave riding - nobody respects somebody that can only say "me too". It's fun to visit there of course, but trying to stay is trouble. Neil sang it best: "...you're leavin' there too soon". Trump has heart, which is both strength and weakness.

  • Rebel Scum||

    people's biggest problem with Trump is that he doesn't try and kiss their asses enough

    Yea I don't get how responding to criticism by defending yourself against said criticism constitutes "doesn't take criticism well".

  • MarkLastname||

    "Go fuck yourself" isn't a valid response to criticism.

    I wonder what Trump could possibly do or say that you would not still white knight for the guy. I suspect if you caught him in bed with your wife you'd offer to give him a foot massage while they went at it.

  • Mickey Rat||

    That depends on the quality of the criticism.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    The Left has wanted control of the Internet ever since it came into widespread use. It utterly infuriates them that people can get information outside of "approved" channels controlled by "gatekeepers".

  • Rich||

    Not only get, but *provide* unapproved info.

  • ||

    The Left has wanted control of the Internet ever since it came into widespread use.

    There was an 8 year break that just happened to coincide with the the first Literally Hitler Administration. You can tell because Bradley Manning leaked evidence of not-unknown war crimes in a war zone to Wikileaks and is now a free... thing; while Snowden is *still* compelled to hide for revealing actual crimes outside any/all war zones.

  • RandomWalk||

    Agreed. This proposal also makes it totally clear that the Democrat's true intention behind pushing for net neutrality legislation is not any sort of freedom for internet-based applications and users, but is in fact intended as a means of control of the internet.

  • John||

    http://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/30.....rated.html

    JP Morgan., Chase CEO credits tax cuts and deregulation for economic growth.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Trump's 4.1% quarterly number would have been the fifth best of the Obama years (5.2% was the highest).

    And it could be revised down due later unless Trump fires the bureau and puts Uday or Qusay in charge of official propaganda.

  • John||

    The U.S. economy grew 4.1 percent in the second quarter, and the average quarterly GDP growth under Trump so far is almost 3 percent (2.9 to be exact). Before the 2016 election, some economists on the Left were openly dismissive of the idea the U.S. economy could sustain 3 percent annual growth.

    But GDP growth is an abstraction. What people actually feel are jobs and "job security"—are they afraid of losing their job in the near future? And here, it could be argued, Republicans have an even better argument. Not only is unemployment down to 4 percent, but most Americans believe the U.S. economy is improving. In fact, the job market is so hot that, for the first time ever recorded, there are more job openings than unemployed workers to take them.

    Obama had the worst economic record of any President since FDR. But he bailed out the banks and had Eric Holder ensure no one went to jail for the biggest financial fraud in history. So there is that.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    TARP (the bank bailout) was a Bush reaction to economic meltdown, you idiot. It was signed in Oct 2008 during an economic collapse.

    Obama's economic record is one of massive job creation (14 million) and recovery. Trump is conning you idiots into thinking the recovery just began in 2017.

  • John||

    Obama voted for TARP while in the Senate and did nothing to reverse it once he became President. He owns TARP just as much as Bush.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Obama completely reversed TARP, you moron. All the principal plus over $60 billion in interest was repaid.

  • John||

    Obama completely reversed TARP,

    What is like to be able to completely lie to yourself at all times and believe whatever the party tells you to believe? It must be a bizarre existence. If you were not such a boil on the ass of humanity, I would actually feel sorry for you.

  • damikesc||

    Obama completely reversed TARP, you moron. All the principal plus over $60 billion in interest was repaid.

    Didn't TARP specifically require that in the first place?

    "Continuing Bush policies" is not reversing them,

    Hint: His "pulling out of Iraq" was also just following a Bush policy.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    If you had any recall you would remember that Obama scolded AIG for holding a big executive shindig in Vegas while they owed over $80 billion to the government.

    He caught a raft of shit here for "interference" in private business.

  • John||

    If you had any recall you would remember that Obama scolded AIG for holding a big executive shindig in Vegas while they owed over $80 billion to the government.

    Yes, and it resulted in Vegas losing millions of dollars in tourism and convention business. There as not a single economy or business that Obama couldn't kill. The guy had the perfect reverse Midas touch. Remember when he was going to bring the Olympics to the US?

    He was the dumbest most incompetent person ever to hold high office in this country. That actually turned out to be a good thing since his incompetence kept him from doing more damage.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You dumb shit, you complain about TARP one minute then call Obama "incompetent" for reversing it and making the free-loading assholes who bankrupted themselves pay it back.

    This is proof of your rabid stupidity.

  • John||

    Obama didn't reverse TARP. He administered it. You are so stupid and dishonest.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Not only did he not "reverse" TARP, but Barry doubled down with his stimulus spending.

    He bailed out GM at a loss of billions to taxpayers AND he interfered in bankruptcy proceedings to fuck over bondholders who had preferential claims to reward his pals in the UAW. And for that real interference in private business he never needs to buy toilet paper again thanks to you.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    That sparked a memory, so I looked it up.

    Sure enough, like most of the financial institutions, AIG hadn't wanted any TARP money, they thought they'd be fine without it. They were forced to take it by threats of adverse regulatory actions if they refused.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    LOL, Obama was a BIG help to the gun industry! One of their best salesmen, ever. Although I imagine Hillary would have taken that crown if she'd been elected President.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Goebbels, please. Stick with the narrative.

  • Rebel Scum||

    fifth best of the Obama years (5.2% was the highest)

    I'm sure you have a citation for this.

  • VinniUSMC||

    Don't forget, that would be 5th best of 32 quarters, most of which were below 3%. Not exactly impressive.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    As libertarians, we shouldn't be too hasty to dismiss the Democrats' plans for safeguarding the Internet against fake news and Russian interference. Remember, it's precisely because of Russia that the worst possible outcome from a libertarian POV happened in 2016 — the most anti-immigration politician in recent memory ended up winning. Sometimes there are trade-offs in politics. And if increased government control of the Internet makes it less likely for white nationalist candidates to win, that's something we should at least consider supporting.

    #BlueWave

  • Mock-star||

    2/10
    Too on-the-nose

  • Mike Laursen||

    Hold on a minute. The current party in control of our government, according to the Democrats, has a strong white nationalist components. So, they want to give the government more control of the Internet. Are they thinking the government will police the Internet only when a Democrat is in the White House?

  • Brett Bellmore||

    They're thinking that they're lying about the current party in control of our government, and this power would remain safely unused until they returned to power.

  • Rich||

    a rapidly increasing number of state attorneys general are suing over whether its safe to let people print guns in their own homes

    "Why, unregulated 3-D printers could catch fire!"

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Titled "Potential Policy Proposals for Regulation of Social Media and Technology Firms,"

    If there's any interpretation of the Constitution we should all be able to agree on, surely it's the first five words of the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law".

    Can honest people disagree about what those five words mean?

  • Rich||

    Of course not, Ken.

    The kicker is what follows. Apparently, honest people can disagree about what "religion", "free exercise", etc., mean.

  • John||

    No, they can't. But had Hillary won the election, the Democrats would have had a majority of the Supreme Court who would have said otherwise. They would have overturned Citizens' United to allow for the control of political speech and upheld these kinds of draconian controls over the internet to control every other form of speech. It would have been effectively the end of free speech in America. I am not exaggerating. That is what would have happened.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    "If X takes over Y in year Z, America is toast!"

    Just substitute appropriate values for X, Y and Z, and you have the all-purpose ready-made scare tactic campaign slogan suitable for any purpose!

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    The real reason for 'compassion' toward immigrants is that "we need" to kick the Social Security demographic can down the road to protect the political class. Once people hear that their promised SS won't be paid because we need the money for government employee pensions, that's the end of the current political class.

    The Pension Hole for U.S. Cities and States Is the Size of Japan's Economy

  • Mike Laursen||

    The real reason for compassion toward immigrants is recognition that they are fellow human beings.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    So was Ted Bundy.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts."

    There's a very popular, highly rated VPN service that's running a promotion right now, $99 for three (3) years of unlimited data--and they don't keep server logs.

    If we don't tell the Russians about VPN, maybe they'll never find out about it!

  • Rich||

    Vladimir Putin's Network?

  • Rebel Scum||

    during her appearance on Firing Line a few days earlier, on which newly revamped show she demonstrated her obliviousness to the fact that the United States economy exploded during the 1990s, to the manner in which unemployment numbers are calculated

    Someone needs to have their economics degree revoked.

  • John||

    She graduated fourth in her class. She is living proof that all it takes to graduate from college is to claim to be the right intersectional minority and to mouth the right leftist talking points. The woman is dumb as a post and completely ignorant on every topic she has spoken about. She seems to have learned absolutely nothing in college. Yet, she received straight As.

  • Rich||

    "What do you call someone who graduated at the bottom of xir medical class?"

    "Doctor."

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I agree with you that she is dumb as a post. She is the Sarah Palin of the left.

  • John||

    Sarah Palin ran a successful business. What has this broad ever done? And as dumb as she is, she actually is not even in the top ten of stupid leftist politicians. She is a genius compared to Bernie, Pelosi, Schummer, and others. And she is smarter than you are. So, you really shouldn't be throwing stones. Never forget, nearly every human being not currently living in a nursing home is smarter than you are.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Selling ghost written books to you dumb hicks is hardly a "successful business".

    I'd crush you in any intelligence contest, you imbecile.

  • John||

    She ran a fishing business you moron. And Obama sold ghost written books to dumb hicks. You are one of the hicks who bought his books.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    I'd crush you in any intelligence contest, you imbecile.

    Oh man, I would almost pay to watch this.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Sarah Palin would beat the shit out of Shrike in a debate.

    Can you imagine?

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    I think she'd beat the shit out of Shrike, period.

  • John||

    Don't worry Sparky, I would take you over shreek. It would be close, but Shreek being insane would likely give you the edge.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    Shreek being insane would likely give you the edge.

    Hell, I just think it's funny that the both of you absolutely refuse to see how similar you are. I suspect any contest between you two would just devolve into a shouting match with both calling the other an imbecile.

  • John||

    What is funny sparky is that you think you are some kind of deep thinker. You think being cynical covers it up. It doesn't. Shreek is a troll. You are just insecure but make up for it by having a totally undeserved sense of superiority.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    You are just insecure but make up for it by having a totally undeserved sense of superiority.

    Spoken like an insecure person with an undeserved sense of superiority. I truly admire your ability to just call everyone else stupid then claim victory.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|7.31.18 @ 10:17AM|#
    "I'd crush you in any intelligence contest, you imbecile."

    You're a laugh riot, turd. A random pile of dirt is smarter than you are.

  • Mock-star||

    "Never forget, nearly every human being not currently living in a nursing home is smarter than you are."

    John, complimenting PB by telling him that he's smarter than Hihn

  • Brett Bellmore||

    "She is a genius compared to Bernie, Pelosi, Schummer, and others."

    Not based on results, she isn't. Spent most of a decade after graduating serving coffee, didn't she? Even Bernie eventually got his multiple daschas, and Pelosi and Schumer are wealthy.

    Sure, they all come across as stupid, but that's because their intelligence is focused on being a success at politics and graft, not at being decent humans and lawmakers.

  • damikesc||

    As the old saying goes, she is so stupid that it can ONLY be blamed on higher education.

    The "uneducated" aren't capable fo suck high-level idiocy.

  • Rich||

    Trial set to begin for ex-Trump campaign chairman Manafort

    The pool of jurors will face questions from both sides and U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III as they try to weed out potential prejudice in what has become a highly publicized and politically divisive investigation.

    "Potential prejudice", eh? Why, some of those jurors might even be potential terrorists!

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Sevo||

    "...the paper starts out by noting that Russians have long spread disinformation, including when "the Soviets tried to spread 'fake news' denigrating Martin Luther King"..."

    Walter Duranty in the NYT: "There is no actual starvation or deaths from starvation but there is widespread mortality from diseases due to malnutrition."
    We're not lacking in disinformation in the US absent any help from the Russkis at all.

  • John||

    http://www.amazon.com/Getting-.....0520262093

    Someone wrote an entire book on that subject.

  • Ken Shultz||

    My understanding is that the FBI also tried to spread fake news denigrating Martin Luther King. Is anybody on the left calling to have their activities closely circumscribed by congress?

    Ultimately, we're talking about naked elitism. They don't think the American people are smart enough to make qualitative choices for themselves about whom should be president because they don't like the guy that the American people picked for their own qualitative reasons.

  • John||

    Ultimately, we're talking about naked elitism. They don't think the American people are smart enough to make qualitative choices for themselves about whom should be president because they don't like the guy that the American people picked for their own qualitative reasons.

    And that would be bad enough on its own. But on top of that, the people claiming to be the "elites" are all liberal arts majors who have never held a real job and literally know nothing. The whole thing is pretty galling.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    My understanding is that the FBI also tried to spread fake news denigrating Martin Luther King.

    Ahem, you're not supposed to remember that or talk about it. The FBI are our heroes now, going to heroically help The Glorious Resistance by ridding us of the Evil Drumpf. /progderp

  • John||

    Actually, that is Reason's position on this issue as well.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Bonus point:

    Most of this shit goes away if and when the Democrats take the House.

    Suddenly and miraculously, our democracy will be okay again.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    It won't go away until they at least have the White House again.

  • Rebel Scum||

    House and Senate be damned. All they need is the whitehouse. They treat the presidency like a dictatorship. They want a dictator, but it has to be their dictator. Hence the hysterics surrounding Trump, such as the 'Handmaids Tale' dystopia they imagine themselves in.

  • Sevo||

    Boy, we really got 'em now!:

    "Trial set to begin for ex-Trump campaign chairman Manafort"
    [...]
    "While the main areas of Mueller's investigation are Russia's actions during the 2016 presidential election and any attempts by Trump to obstruct justice, none of those topics are expected to come up in Manafort's trial."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/
    trial-set-to-begin-for-ex-trump-campaign
    -chairman-manafort/ar-BBLigov?OCID
    =ansmsnnews11

    The "main areas" of the investigation? How many years ago were they the "main areas"?

  • Ken Shultz||

    "None of those topics are expected to come up in Manafort's trial."

    Thumb screws and the rack are so out of fashion these days, but it's still about torturing people to get them to "confess" against their superiors.

    Vie have vays of making you talk.

  • Jerryskids||

    A leaked memo circulating among Senate Democrats contains a host of bonkers authoritarian proposals for regulating digital platforms, purportedly as a way to get tough on Russian bots and fake news.

    Pretty simple really, just close the valves on the intertubes connecting the US to Russia.

  • wreckinball||

    Yea, that will work like a champ Jerry. Sure thing.

    OK, you wonder where the dumb-fuckery comes from. See above

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    Yer sarcasm meter is broken. That'll cost ya.

  • wreckinball||

    You have a bunch of idiots getting hysterical about Russian Facebook trolls interfering in the election. WTF!!!!

    I mean having government police the internet and blocking "bad" folks I mean what could go wrong with that idea.

    I mean dumb as fuck. But the chattering idiots keep repeating "Russian Meddling" like some kind of cult chant.

  • Just Say'n||

    Who would have expected that a bat shit crazy conspiracy theory would be used for authoritarian control, other than anyone with half a brain that is

  • John||

    Russian trolls would be the Reichstag fire or the Kirov assassination if the Democrats had their way.

  • wreckinball||

    Unfortunately they may be having their way. A whole bunch of moronic Rs are following along with the "Russia Russia Russia" craze. You know because our "intelligence" agency says the "meddle" or something. And of course our "intelligence" agencies are just beyond repute.

    I mean its ridiculous.

  • John||

    It is absurd. But it is about the Washington establishment's war against Trump. They don't want to ever be held accountable to the voters for anything.

  • Just Say'n||

    This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with war

  • John||

    No it is about Trump.

  • Just Say'n||

    Nonsense. If Trump had the "right foreign policy" with regards to Russia then there would have never been Russia fever dreams. Rand Paul could have won and the same nonsense would have played out. This is all about maintaining the status quo foreign policy that has served us so well. Listen to your betters!

  • Shirley Knott||

    It can be both, you know.

  • John||

    I think it is about both Shirley.

  • Flinch||

    The cult has trotted out every analogy short of Hiroshima and Nagasaki so far. That doesn't leave them much more room than an angstrom for rhetoric. The goons that trotted out the kristallnacht propaganda this month need inpatient psych care, and they know it. Apparently, The Boy Who Cried Wolf is no longer read by schoolkids. Is it even published anymore? My son's small collection of Aesops fables finds it conveniently omitted for unkown reasons... How about investigating Russian meddling on publishers row before launching on fakebook and the rest? They're both speech arenas, so the left is being mighty inconsistent [as usual]. Quelle surprise.

  • Ron||

    Who would have expected that a bat shit crazy conspiracy theory would be used for authoritarian control, other than anyone with half a brain that is"

    And they say Alex Jones is a threat with his conspiracies, only difference is Alex has no political power

  • Henry||

    Well, our modern national socialists can't just use the "Jews" excuse anymore. They wore that one out half a century ago,

  • Just Say'n||

    "Total newsroom employment in the US is down 23 percent from 2008 to 2017, from 114,000 newsroom staffers to 88,000."

    I love how "journalists" are the worse bitter clingers in the country. Learn coding or something you stupid clingers.

  • John||

    The crying over Kevin D. Williamson losing his gig at the Atlantic was some of the most delicious tears I have seen in a very long time. Hey, Kevin, just buy a UHaul and learn how to code or something. Somehow, it is different when it happens to them.

  • MarkLastname||

    He got his old job back because people like reading what he writes.

    Are you an unemployed meth head on welfare or something? Only way I can explain why you hate him so much.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    No, John is just a Republican snowflake who was triggered by one of Williamson's articles and therefore enjoyed seeing him fired.

  • wreckinball||

    You also have the idiots who say there is no cyber security, NONE that can be used to defend against the evil Russian empire and by golly they will tinker with our votes in November. I tell you .

    Holy fuck seriously! You mean there is no defense. Well would they bother with tampering with votes when they could just drain everyone's bank account.

    I mean because there is no defense, we have to go back to paper ballots, crap there are Russia trolls on Facebook, I mean we really need our very smart leaders to step in an put limits on the internet. And while you are at it we need "common sense" free speech control to go along with that "common sense" gun control The Bill of Rights in general needs reviewed.

    Really dumb!

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    I think you need to go easy on the "I mean". Just a suggestion. Unless you're using speech to text software, that is.

  • wreckinball||

    Gee thanks.

    See the last line of my previous post.

  • $park¥ The Misanthrope||

    I mean, hey, I was trying to offer some helpful advice. I mean, seriously. I mean not typing "I mean" in every sentence saves time is all. But whatevs, I mean you do you.

  • Austin Til It Ain’t||

    What? You weren't impressed with their highly in depth technical questions during the Mark Zuckerberg congressional hearings?

  • BYODB||


    "Today's tools seem almost built for Russian disinformation techniques," Warner opines. And the ones to come, he assures us, will be even worse.


    Or, you know, the CIA/NSA/FBI. *cough*Stuxnet*cough*


    But no, I'm totally sure it's absolutely different when the Ruskies half-ass the same techniques.

  • BYODB||


    Define popular tech as "essential facilities." These would be subject to all sorts of heightened rules and controls, says the paper, offering Google Maps as an example of the kinds of apps or platforms that might count.


    This is almost inevitable at this point, in that the Government will declare companies like Google as some sort of common carrier or the like. Having invented a lot of things the government wants, the government will declare that those things now belong to them. I'm sure they'll be kind and allow their boards a thin veneer of ownership though, so it's totes not socialism dawg.

  • lafe.long||

    Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet

    The WWW is not the Internet.

    I miss the halcyon days of Usenet and IRC.

  • Curly4||

    Are the democrats planning to "nationalize" the internet? Well the democrats are turning more "progressive" so it stands to reason that they would want to start taking over industry at some time or other.

  • Austin Til It Ain’t||

    They did such a fine job with the banks, after all.

  • BillyG||

    All your base are belong to us.

    *golf clap* No one else got this reference?

  • GoatOnABoat||

    I used to play that game when dialup modems were still cool :)

  • GoatOnABoat||

    Mandatory identity verification? Funny how the dems are so against voter IDs...

  • RonG||

    I created an account to say just that! Wish I had seen this first!

  • Marilyn6||

  • OldOllie||

    If the government takes over the Internet, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc., will have deserved it. The problem is, the rest of us will not.

  • davidkachel||

    Where do these tech companies get off deciding what I can and cannot be exposed to??!!!!!!!!

    And, has anyone else noticed that it is ONLY democrats and NEVER republicans who want to control what I see and hear??!!!

  • zombietimeshare||

    "A leaked memo circulating among Senate Democrats contains a host of bonkers authoritarian proposals for regulating digital platforms, ..."

    I expect the Democrat, freedom crushing, internet takeover memo finished with the mandatory "Trump is worse than Hitler".

    Mandatory location verification? Mandatory identity verification? Yet for voting, "No ID? No problem. Se habla español."

  • dlmstl||

    Would the 'Swamp' be raising this kind of stink had the Hunchback of Chappaqua won? This program took off during the Obama regime along with the weaponization of the DOJ, FBI, IRS, EPA, DOE, HHS, BLM and a host of other fed agencies. Fortunately, POTUS Trump happened. Remember, when POTUS Barry got so full of himself, he brazenly spoke of national civilian security force that would be as big as the nations military branches? Somewhere, Joseph Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler are nodding in agreement. It's looking more and more like CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the MSM reporting has taken to heart one of Goebbels observations that 'the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore must always be simple and repetitious.' Sound familiar?

  • htsimpson||

    Trump was a mistake that neither the Dems or the GOP will not EVER allow to happen again.

  • mysmartstuffs||

    Reality is forcing someone to identify themself when they make a comment or post something is a form of censorship. In the early days of the internet liberals in the US created methods of making anonymous posts a possibility in places like China because speaking the truth could get a person in trouble there... Now they want to make the US the next China.

    Remember the founding fathers started the ground work for the American revolution using anonymous writings, not writing with they own names as doing so would have gotten them all arrested years before 1776. Anonymity must live or freedom dies.

  • htsimpson||

    If you hold a position opposite that of todays left, do you REALLY want your name and address known and possibly leaked to the local brown shirts to pay you a visit and show you the error of your ways?! Who in their right mind thinks this could or would never happen?

  • roughman998||

    I just had an epiphany!
    Are the folks who run FB, YT, et al acting as agents provocateurs?
    Is a gub'ment take over the end game?

  • Austin Til It Ain’t||

    Ok, I'll start the list.
    1. Mitch McConnell (but possibly on Chinese pension roll instead of payroll since he decided to spend the remainder of his tenure binge watching Netflix)

  • EJKJr||

    Ah, the Democrats plan to formalize OneSpeak, the truth according to the government. Go for it Democrats. What you say Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, you for this as well?

  • Justin Thymes||

    Looks as if the "Ministry of Truth" is getting created.

    Almost like the Left is using "1984" as a playbook, not reading it as the cautionary tale it was intended to be by its author.

    Nor do they seem to realize, as is the case for most on the Left, on how this could come back and be used against them. But then again, Leftist hubris keeps their blinders on, doesn't it?

  • Henry||

    "Almost like the Left is using "1984" as a playbook, not reading it as the cautionary tale it was intended to be by its author."

    Didn't you watch the trailer preview? It's called "England."

  • MHT||

    What, exactly, do Democrats NOT want to take over?
    Can't help but notice that the Democrats want to verify ID's in order to comment on websites but (hypocrisy alert) still opposing VOTER ID.

  • DPJGEN||

    So now, after Algore invented the internet, they want to regulate it all in the name of "fake news"?, and only because Trump won. Now, if HRC had won, well, this wouldn't even be a story. Both sides of the political spectrum have fake news, but, the left takes it a step further. Yes, by not reporting facts, that is no different than fake news. For example - not reporting that unemployment is 3.9%, just as bad as fake news. By not reporting on the successes of the first two years of Trump is just as bad. The Dems know that they cannot ever really win at the ballot box when it comes to issues; they have to rely on meltdowns, lawsuits, regulations, banning this and that, riots, etc. Typical.

  • TruthDetector||

    These social media platforms (sites/portals) are not free and have no use for free speech. Read your terms and conditions for using them. Note: All data you place thereon, via upload, etc., belongs to them, not to you.

    You've sold your soul for fake 'friends' and a bogus online persona you've created for your own self-deceptive purposes.

  • Tshaw||

    Interesting viewpoint. If we go with this line of reasoning, then users won't have to worry about being sued because platforms like YouTube have claimed ownership of everything users upload. Kinda cool if you look at it like that.

    Still, if the US government forces exposure of users' data and locations, that would be completely opposite of what the EU just enacted regarding the handling of user data. The EU wants everything related to its citizen's user identity to be locked down (when it comes to purchases, at least).

    From my viewpoint, publishing names and addresses exposes people to harm and abuse in so many ways. Don't they realize they will be opening up On the other hand, what the EU just did is over-reaching as well. They threaten a $2M fine for even a crumb of data being leaked and they even mandate pop-ups on websites--when we had just gotten rid of a ton of them (because users hate pop-ups).

    It's all about money, and governments who have driven themselves to bankruptcy via socialism and communism and mismanagement of taxpayer monies are now scrambling to grab as much power/control as they can before they go under.

  • Steve Tanton||

    "Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet: Reason Roundup"

    Really? Could have surprised me. Just what is it that they don't want to take over or regulate?

    Democrat = Madura

  • nomoliberals||

    I remember waking up every day under Pres. Zero's term wondering which of our freedoms he was going to try and take away. I haven't had that feeling once since Trump's been in office. Liberalism is a disease that must be eradicated.

  • gphx||

    Time to go blockchain based, decentralized everything. The status quo understands it's losing and is trying to fight back.

  • Denan7||

    Their "net neutrality" Trojan Horse failed so they turn to another 'necessary means' of speech oppression. They'll get to net neutrality's oppression of innovation and increased rates, fees, taxes and levys on the Internet infrastructure later once they've grabbed power and fundamentally transformed America into an elected tyranny by the process of immigration-amnesty.

    Welcome to the United Shithole of America.

  • Johnny Galt||

    We must suspend free speech to insure only the correct thoughts are presented on the internet, thus assuring free speech in our Demokratic Republic where everyone is free to vote for the Demokrat of their choice.

  • htsimpson||

    Is there anyone left in America after reading this and the other headlines of the day, who the REAL Communist/Fascists in America are?!?!?! You HONESTLY think I will give my name and address to the "democratic party" so I can get a late night visit from your brown shirts if I disagree with global warming or otherwise think or believe other than your party line?!?!?! WHAT HAS THIS NATION BECOME?!?!?!

  • Bubba-J||

    Sounds as if the state is trying to bring back the "STAMP ACT" If it doesn't have the "states seal" on it it is FORBIDDEN!

  • TxJack 112||

    Yea, this is a great idea. Let the government control the content on the internet under the guise of protecting democracy. The first thing you have to accept is people are so stupid they can be influenced by Russian disinformation. If this is true, maybe the actual fix is the media returning to being objective reporters of the news rather than propaganda shills for Democrats. Second, who decides what is and what is not acceptable speech? As already has been shown, when bureaucrats are the ones making the decisions, anything conservative is labeled as hate speech and banned. This is perhaps the most stupid and dangerous idea ever pushed by Democrats because it is precisely what the 1st amendment is suppose to prohibit... government control of speech.

  • JeffreyL||

    "All your base are belong to us"

    As an old school gamer who is quickly approaching 50, i salute you for this reference. Good one.

  • texexpatriate||

    I wonder whether the dimwits who always vote for Democrats without even knowing what Democrats mean to do to them will take this, an even more specific expression of the Party's Marxism and Fascism. Among Trump's major accomplishments has been to so energize the hatred of Democrats that their hatred of democratic and republican principles are being expressed for all to see.

  • nomoliberals||

    This statism, this nanny state is why the left is so terrifying. I haven't woken up once since Trump was elected wondering which of my freedoms are going to be taken away. Liberalism is a disease that must be eradicated.

  • StoneWallz||

    War is coming.
    The (d)onkeys are the enemy.
    Their ideology must be eliminated wherever it is found.

  • ||

    The internet has always been controlled by the government, nothing new.

  • Tracie||

    Let's calm down. We don't know that this isn't just another stunt by Jones. He has done so many of them. However, if this is real than we need to scream loud as hell.

  • Rockabilly||

    I wish the democrats would admit that they're communists.

  • Henry||

    "Warner's paper suggests forcing companies to somehow label bots or be penalized (no word from Warner on how this is remotely feasible)"

    California's law says in order for a gun to be sold, it has to microstamp its identity in two places on the cartridge. The court has ruled (http://tinyurl.com/y9ecxchj) that the fact that this is technically impossible doesn't invalidate the law.

    So who cares if Warner's requirement is remotely feasible? That's apparently no longer a stumbling block. If a law tells you to flap your arms and fly, you better just ask "how high?"

  • Tshaw||

    We, the People of the Internet, hereby ban any and all government agencies from use of said Internet or interference therein, heretofore and forthwith, without delay and without recourse, subject to an official review at a time and date which We, the People of the Internet, shall so choose.

  • LeRoyBlutarsky||

    maybe you should show your voter registration card to post on social media...oh wait...

  • ThomasD||

    You racist.

  • luxomni||

    You really can become an unperson. I think it is time to go rewatch Sandra Bullock in The Net and Harrison Ford in Erased. It is becoming an increasing possibility, even probability.

  • daninbluemd||

    Is there ANY Amendment in the Bill of Rights that the Left doesn't detest? Yet they'll tell you that they love this Country and our Constitution.

    Remember, it was Obama that actually SPIED on the Media (reporters from AP, CBS, and FOX that we know of) and was, by their own admission, very closed off to them. But like a battered spouse, the Media LOVED him, so they overlooked his abuse.

  • Devastator||

    Democrats are becoming nazis and trying to set up democrat only communication paths, also a way for them to track any #resistance. Great going senators and congress critters. Goebels would be proud of you

  • RickCaird||

    This is such a great idea the Democrats need to allow Trump to administer the program. Better yet, he could also add to the requirements. What could go wrong?

  • jerryg1018||

    Congress tried several schemes back in the 1990's to take government control of the Internet. The Supreme Court didn't agree with them then and it won't agree now. The courts will recognize it for what it is, a power grab over free speech. Politicians, unelected bureaucrats will decide what we can or can't say.

  • InalienableWrights||

    This is for real and the moronic public had better wake up. Their slumber has gotten us the crappy criminal county that we now live in.....looks like their apathy is going to get us all 10 planks of the Communist manifesto.
    ~MFP..

    CROSS POSTED AT:

    http://missourifreepress.com/2.....-internet/

  • texexpatriate||

    Would anyone expect less from a coalition of Communists and Nazis? No. Nothing surprises me that so-called Democrats do.

  • Home Care Agency||

    Once people hear that their promised SS won't be paid because we need the money for government employee pensions, that's the end of the current political class.

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