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New Hate Crime Bill Protecting Cops Passes House Despite Clear 10th Amendment Violation: Reason Roundup

Plus: Why FOSTA is "unambiguously evil" and fighting back against "pasteurization without representation."

Douglas Graham / Loudoun Now/NewscomDouglas Graham / Loudoun Now/Newscom"Protect and Serve Act" passes House. File under bipartisan-is-just-another-word-for-both-sides-licking-the-same-boot: majorities of both Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives have voted in favor of new hate crime legislation that sets up cops as a protected class.

Overall, just 35 House members voted against the bill (H.R. 5698), which isn't far from making it a federal crime to resist arrest. Under the so-called "Protect and Serve Act," anyone who injures or attempts to injure a police officer will be guilty of a federal offense—no matter how small the injury and no matter if it was intentional—if the offense has some connection to or effect on interstate commerce.

The House Liberty Caucus opposed the creation of this new federal hate crime, which it said "violates the Constitution"—the 10th Amendment grants authority to prosecute offenses against state and local cops only to the states—"and furthers the dangerous federalization of criminal law."

An increasing amount of conduct once only punished at the local level is now falling under the purview of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security's HSI unit, and immigration agents. (If the shift from community policing to more metrics-based and militaristic models has had bad effects on civilian-cop relations and incarceration rates, just think how much more damage FBI and ICE agents can rack up!)

Lawmakers are justifying the Protect and Serve Act using (what else?) the Commerce Clause. But this "does not significantly narrow the range of covered offenses or avoid the constitutional violation," said the Liberty Caucus statement.

A tenuous connection to economic activity cannot transform a criminal law that has nothing to do with economic activity—and that is is explicitly for the purpose of public safety—into a regulation of interstate commerce. If it could, the Commerce Clause would destroy the Constitution's design for a very limited federal role in criminal law enforcement, covering only a few crimes that are clearly federal in nature.

That ship has long since sailed, alas. But good on the (lonely!) Liberty Caucus for at least trying to stand up against Congress' use of the Commerce Clause like an incantation that overcomes the Constitution.

A related bill in the Senate is currently with the Judiciary Committee.

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FOSTA "unambiguously evil," says law professor; bad effects continue to accumulate. When a bill banning prostitution ads passed the Senate, "a four-hour procession of lawmakers ascended the rostrum to congratulate each other on a rare act of bipartisanship," writes Susan Du at City Pages. "The bill in question was never really up for debate. It was sold as way to rein back a modern surge in the sexual enslavement of women and girls, making use of the internet to enable prostitution punishable by up to 10 years in prison." But if the bill, known as FOSTA, was "supposed to protect sex workers, no one bothered to consult them," writs Du. "The threat to their well-being was immediate."

Trump signed FOSTA in April, but we started seeing its effects almost as soon as the bill passed. By now, we've seen the demise of a slew of sites where sex workers advertise, exchange safety tips, and otherwise communicate. It's also forcing everything from sex-education sites to popular social media platforms to ban discussions of prostitution and even all talk of sex-worker rights and safety.

Scott Cunningham, a Baylor University law professor who has studied the effect of the digital sphere on prostitution, called FOSTA "unambiguously evil." From City Pages:

His 2017 study on Craigslist's personals section is the only empirical analysis of online sex ads' effect on violence against women. Its conclusion: The internet reduced female homicides by 17.4 percent.

"If you care about violence against women—and you should—you absolutely need to care about how FOSTA is unambiguously harming these women," Cunningham says. "And if you believe that most of this market is just trafficked women, or if you define trafficking through the sleight of hand that basically says, philosophically, all prostitution is sex trafficking, you need to talk to some sex workers and ask them if they're trafficked."

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...majorities of both Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives have voted in favor of new hate crime legislation that sets up cops as a protected class.

    Which makes them even that much more heroic, knowing what they've had to endure up until now.

  • ||

    Hello.

    "no matter how small the injury and no matter if it was intentional..."

    Yeh. That's not good.

    Land of the free my dried out foot.

  • Curt||

    Makes sense to me. It seems perfectly reasonable to use federal law to prosecute those assholes who repeatedly assault officers' fists with their face. Officer Friendly's bruised knuckles will now be evidence that he was victim of a hate crime.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    FOSTA "unambiguously evil," says law professor; bad effects continue to accumulate.

    Why is everyone trying to harsh Congress's feelgood high from its latest assault on women's agency?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Under the so-called "Protect and Serve Act," anyone who injures or attempts to injure a police officer will be guilty of a federal offense—no matter how small the injury and no matter if it was intentional—if the offense has some connection to or effect on interstate commerce.

    Under the current federal definition of "interstate commerce," this encompasses every activity human beings can possibly engage in.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Could you have done the thing whilst straddling a state line? Interstate commerce for you, punk! Do stuff like an interstate thug, die like an interstate thug.

  • Rat on a train||

    ... or not engage in. Inaction also impacts interstate commerce.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Exactly. If you COULD be engaging in interstate commerce but aren't, that affects interstate commerce, and therefore falls under federal jurisdiction. Ain't absolutism grand?

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Is it still legal to masturbate in four states at once? Asking for a friend.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Only as long as you're aiming at Utah. If any state needs a little diversification of the gene pool, it's Utah.

    Added feature, you get to moon New Mexico at the same time.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    So you do the full Donald Duck when you j/o, huh.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Anyone following the MS-13/animals extravaganza? I expect an out of context outraged spewing from the usual suspects any time now.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    So far, the score stands, media standing with MS-13 and Hamas, and calling the NRA terrorists.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    I believe the version of events I read on the New York Times Twitter: Trump lashed out at undocumented immigrants during a White House meeting, calling those trying to breach the country's borders "animals"

    It says nothing about MS-13. "Animals" refers to all people trying to exercise their fundamental human right to immigrate to the United States. And people wonder why I compare Drumpf to Hitler? This is frighteningly similar to the language Hitler used to dehumanize Jews.

    #NoBanNoWall
    #Resist

  • Inigo Montoya||

    An MS-13/animals extravaganza sounds delicious. I bet they grill up those various meats to perfection. I know they are a street gang, but if they want to give some competition to Brazilian BBQ, I'm fine with that. Competition makes everyone raise their game.

    I'm afraid the only spewing you can expect from this commenter will happen if I eat way too much, Mr Creosote style. My eyes have been known to be bigger than my stomach.

  • Jerryskids||

    Oddly enough, I was reading an article on the internet pointing out that Trump's statement about "animals" was clearly in reference to MS13 and not immigrants in general but that the media was dishonestly reporting it as "Trump calls immigrants animals" while at the same time I had CNN going on the TV and right there's Ana Navarro slamming Trump as downright un-American for calling immigrants animals when America and Americans - including Trump himself - are all immigrants.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    These are people who can afford to pretend that MS-13 doesn't exist. The only immigrants they encounter are their nannies and landscapers.

  • Libertymike||

    If one is for liberty, one does not exempt the application of the truthful description of others just because the others happen to be brown or black.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Exactly. One does not exempt brown and black people from the truth that some of them are criminals. Just like some white and Asian people are criminals.

    All illegals are criminals which adds to the exemptions advocated on Reason.

  • Libertymike||

    Or the truth that a much higher percentage of brown and black people are lawless.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    Have you seen/read the full exchange between Trump and the sheriff in context?

  • TW||

    Yes, someone posted the forty-seven second clip that CPAN posted on Twitter where Trump refers to someone as "animals" and I was skeptical of the headline which suggested he was referring to illegal aliens in general. So I found the video of the entire event and watched most of it. If you start at the 24 minute mark, you'll see where one of the sheriffs talks about MS-13 and that's when Trump starts referring to "animals."

  • Citizen X - #6||

    San Diego is cracking down on hardware-store popcorn.

    See, THIS is a city that has its priorities in order.

  • Mike Laursen||

    Grrr. Our local car wash chain and our local Camping store both have good old popcorn machine, where any pestilence-carrying hand can reach in and grab a bag. There have been zero problems, and countless kids made happy instead of whiny.

    Hope this doesn't spread.

  • Jerryskids||

    To comply with the 1984 California Uniform Retail Food Facility Law, Meanley & Son would need to install a three-basin sink to clean and sterilize the popcorn popper. Also required: regular inspections, just like a restaurant.

    Surprisingly (to me at any rate), if you look at the California Retail Food Code it does indeed define a hardware store giving away free popcorn as a food retailing facility. Despite the fact that a hardware store is not a facility for retailing food and giving away free popcorn is not retailing food, as those terms are generally understood in the English language. You aren't going to catch those lawyers in a bind by arguing that you're not a restaurant or a store selling food just because you're not a restaurant or a store selling food.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    10 Key Takeaways From The New York Times' Error-Ridden Defense Of FBI Spying On Trump Campaign
    1. FBI Officials Admit They Spied On Trump Campaign
    The New York Times' story, headlined "Code Name Crossfire Hurricane: The Secret Origins of the Trump Investigation," is a dry and gentle account of the FBI's launch of extensive surveillance of affiliates of the Trump campaign. Whereas FBI officials and media enablers had previously downplayed claims that the Trump campaign had been surveiled, in this story we learn that it was more widespread than previously acknowledged:...

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    I was born in a cross-fire hurricane
    And I howled at the morning driving rain
    But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Their use of the codename "Crossfire Hurricane" was clever. It's hard to imagine anybody remotely associated with the Obama administration listening to The Rolling Stones. They seem more like mushy Kenny G types (the men, I mean; the women are probably more into angry grrl feminist stuff).

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    I'm sure that to them this whole thing is a gas, gas, gas.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    The main talking point I'm hearing so far from most of my Obama lefty co-workers so far is the spying was justified even if it turns up no evidence at all of collusion.

    And this is what the leftists really believe, "you can't do this to us, but it's perfectly OK if we do it to you. Our ends are noble so they justify the means." The gospel of Saul Alinsky in a neat little nutshell.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    They represent the 99%. Literally. If they have power, the 99% are represented. 'How' doesn't matter, and the 99% themselves aren't qualified to make those decisions. Luckily we have the most intelligent people in human history generously putting aside the chance to become billionaires in the private sector to serve and rule us, without any thought of themselves.

    99% of the people approve of what they are doing. The left says so, and they are the only ones smart and moral enough to make that call.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    How corrupt is the FBI and our deep state intel services?

    The rarely follow the Constitution and that is all you need to know.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Darkest fucking timeline pic.twitter.com/VhPv7rl9Wo
    — Gabriella Paiella (@GMPaiella) May 17, 2018

    They better not have heard Yanny.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    THAT IS CLEARLY WHAT IT SAID.

  • Citizen X - #6||


    Gabriella Paiella

    @GMPaiella
    Darkest fucking timeline

    Sorry, Ms. Rice Dish, but nobody cares about foreigners getting blowed up by giant American autocannons. It is known.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    That's not entirely true. There are plenty of Americans who are happy about it.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    True. In related news, i'm kicking myself for neglecting to stock my office with whiskey.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Carry it with you at all times.

    Be prepared Boy Scout.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Awan Lawyer Demanded Witness Reveal What She Told FBI, Probed About 'Radical Islamic Activities'
    A lawyer for Abid Awan — one of the three brothers who the House Inspector General found made "unauthorized access" to congressional servers before the election — used a deposition in an unrelated civil case to ask a witness to reveal what she told FBI agents, to ascertain if they asked about "radical Islamic activities," and inquire about a grand jury.

    Attorney Jim Bacon also asked the witness to try to find out details of the investigation from officials and asked whether they had offered to put her into a witness protection program. The deposition was given as part of a lawsuit regarding the Awans' deceased father's $50,000 life insurance policy.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    San Diego is cracking down on hardware-store popcorn.

    But I can still buy a chainsaw there even if I plan to go on a spree with it, right?

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    I promise to use the chainsaw to cut trans fats out of my life

  • sarcasmic||

    if the offense has some connection to or effect on interstate commerce.

    Since the Supreme Nazgul have declared that literally everything has a connection or effect on interstate commerce, every violation will be a federal offence.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Ending many drug criminalizations has opened up a bunch of beds in federal "pound them in the ass prisons".

    We cannot risk higher unemployment by police and prison guards, so we must enact more laws.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Well, now that the government's house organ, the New York Times, has finally confirmed on the record the Negro Nixon's "Operation Crossfire Hurricane", the manufacturing of a bunch of bogus pretexts to illegally spy on Trump and his associates during the campaign (after having completely lied to the American about this for almost a year and a half), I really look forward to hearing what Reason and the civil libertarians of America have to say about this kind of despicable, banana republic behavior.

    Where is the outrage? Richard Nixon was forced from office for engaging in this exact same behavior, and a few even justifiably went to prison. Is this really what we want in America?

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Yes, it is. Trump doesn't want MS-13 coming here and is therefore so evil that the rules should be thrown out.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    I really look forward to hearing what Reason and the civil libertarians of America have to say about this kind of despicable, banana republic behavior.

    But we know what they'll say. "But...but...Stormy Daniels! Russian dressing on his salad! OHMYGAWD he said the word 'pussy'!"

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    My prediction is Reason completely ignores this story and pretends it doesn't even exist.

    But if they do bother to mention it at all, it will almost certainly be some mealy-mouthed longer version of "yeah, spying on Americans using false pretexts is generally wrong, but Trump is a big fat poopyhead!"

  • loveconstitution1789||

    It will be Souve so he can mention how Democrats and Republicans act the same.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The Senate yesterday engaged in a mostly symbolic move to stop the repeal of "net neutrality" regulations.

    Symbolic is when the Senate is at its best.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling
    Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century....

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    I knew there had to be a reason why Ron Bailey decided to suddenly stop doing his "Monthly Global Temperature Update" pieces recently.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    OMG the earth is cooling now! Quick, everyone start spewing CO2 into the atmosphere. Something must be done!

  • Mickey Rat||

    It is unprecedented climate change! Engage panic mode!

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    Don't worry, beautiful clean coal will warm us in these dark times.

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    In the midst of your government approved and encouraged panic, you've spewed something any right thinking American should be happy about.

    If in fact our behavior in the 70s of releasing sooty crap into the atmosphere created cooling, and our releasing co2 can create heating, we've now got the tools to give us the climate we all want.

    Alternatively, we can wreak climate havoc on any nation less nicely situated than the USA.

    If in fact we can control the weather, is there any reason the Russians shouldn't be releasing lots of co2 into the atmosphere? And then shouldn't the Chinese be releasing all kinds of sooty crap to preserve their climate against the Russian's actions?

  • Juice||

    Isn't it dropping from an El Nino spike though?

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    In other news, weather patterns are cyclical.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Shh, don't ruin the retard party.

  • Mr Smeeth||

    Ha! You're a butthurt believer!

    You gonna cry too?!?!?

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    I remember when I discovered my El Nino spike.

    Good times...

  • Mike Laursen||

    Kinda related, kinda not. It seems the ozone layer is thinning again. It might be that someone is manufacturing ozone-depleting chemicals again but nobody is sure who it is.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    If I've learned anything over the past year, it's either Trump, the Russians, or the Russians colluding with Trump.

  • I am the 0.000000013%||

    And before that it was Bush.

  • Ron||

    at that rate of cooling the whole planet will be frozen over in just decades

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Actress Allison Mack "was the Tom Cruise of Nxivm..."

    She wishes she was ever as arousing playing beach volleyball.

  • Necron 99||

    While on the highway to the danger zone take the exit to Homoerotic Blvd.

  • ||

    The 1990s called. It wants Rudi back.

    Looks like Rudi can fail after all.

  • Inigo Montoya||

    Great reference to an even better song!

  • lap83||

    "New hate crime bill protecting cops"

    Who wins if a black guy and a cop charge each other with hate crimes?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Not America, that's for sure.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    The fact that Giuliani was wrong on TV hardly qualifies as shocking.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Scott Cunningham, a Baylor University law professor who has studied the effect of the digital sphere on prostitution, called FOSTA "unambiguously evil."

    This is literally the dumbest thing anyone has ever said.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Terrible news on the free speech front!

    From Vice: Facebook's new political ad rules require a SS # and a US Passport/drivers license. And so the country's 11 million undocumented immigrants can no longer buy ads on the platform.

    This is completely unacceptable. With Drumpf's white nationalist government declaring war against the undocumented, the last thing we need is Facebook restricting their First Amendment rights. When we left-libertarians said we wanted tech companies to prevent foreign interference in our elections, this is obviously not what we meant!

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Okay, that one is funny.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Oh good, the left can now destroy the credit of anyone who puts out an ad they object to.

  • lap83||

    Relax! they can still vote

  • ||

    Meanwhile, the Russian Hackers will have to rely on the meager pool of 100-or-so million IDs they've lifted from the VA, the IRS, OPM, the National Archives... in order to buy Facebook Ads.

  • ||

    You'd almost think Zuckerberg had a soul and is trolling the fuck out of Congress. Almost.

  • Jerryskids||

    Rudy Giuliani was shockingly wrong on TV again.

    Fuck you very much for making me defend a piece of shit like Rudi "9/11!" Giuliani, but the article itself sneaks in the fact that Giuliani was correct right in the middle of the piece claiming he was wrong. 9/11! didn't claim that the President couldn't be indicted, he claimed that Mueller's team told him the President couldn't be indicted. You know where he would have gotten this crazy idea? The article itself tells you: Earlier this month, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Mueller investigation, was asked about whether a sitting president could be indicted while speaking at an event.

    "I'm not going to answer this in the context of any current matters, so you shouldn't draw any inference about it," Rosenstein previously said. "But the Department of Justice has in the past, when the issue arose, has opined that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

    Gee whiz, why do so many people distrust CNN's reporting?

  • Rhywun||

    At this point I don't bother reading any of the author's links to CNN or WaPo every morning.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Cannot be indicted for official actions, I think.

    He can be indicted for actual crimes.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury under the theory that a sitting president cannot be indicted by a grand jury.

  • DaveSs||

    With the Hate crime crap, I'm reminded of a line in Braveheart

    https://youtu.be/QfeIUCWXhPg1

  • loveconstitution1789||

    New Hate Crime Bill Protecting Cops Passes House Despite Clear 10th Amendment Violation

    Just sent emails to both Senators to vote against this unconstitutional expansion of federal power.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Freaking squirrels.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    New Hate Crime Bill Protecting Cops Passes House Despite Clear 10th Amendment Violation

    Just sent emails to my Senators to vote against this unconstitutional expansion of federal power.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    My hero.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    You're welcome Earthling.

  • Rhywun||

    a four-hour procession of lawmakers ascended the rostrum to congratulate each other on a rare act of bipartisanship

    I challenge anyone to watch that on C-SPAN and make it out alive.

  • Henry||

    The word "bipartisan" usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.

    -- GEORGE CARLIN

  • Griffin3||

    bi-partisan means they work together: applying the lube, and giving you the goods.

  • markm23||

    Bipartisan: When the Evil Party and the Stupid Party agree on something stupid and evil.

    --Kim Dutoit

  • Mickey Rat||

    The procedure for indicting a sitting president is called "impeachment". That does not put the president "above the law", just puts him under a different procedure. At the very least, the idea that a prosecutor could indict a sitting president is at best, controversial and disagreeing with it is hardly a shocking assertion.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    If prosecutors can indict presidents then presidents can pardon themselves and resign to avoid an impeachment which is the only type of pardon that the Constitution prohibits.

  • sarcasmic||

    Presidents don't pardon themselves. They resign and their replacement pardons them. Like Ford did with Nixon.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits a president from pardoning themselves except in case of impeachment.

    So the president pardons themselves and resigns before an impeachment takes place. You can only impeach sitting politicians and judges.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""no matter how small the injury and no matter if it was intentional—""

    If a cop is chasing you, falls and hurts himself, I'm assuming you will be charged. You caused the injury by forcing him to run.

    I totally see that coming.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Of course. Some cops stand in front of vehicles driven by fleeing suspects so they can unload their weapon into the driver. Then they claim that their life was in danger.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    I'm pretty sure that's a thing now. Just like you're at fault if a cop kills someone during a car chase.

  • sarcasmic||

    Or if a cop shoots at someone and misses, killing a bystander, the target is charged with murder.

  • sarcasmic||

    You say that as if it doesn't already happen.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Not in the way this law allows. Else passing it would be moot.

  • Ron||

    So the cops won't enforce federal crimes but they want federal protection if they get a break a knuckle while punching people in the face

  • sarcasmic||

    Cops don't punch people in the face. People assault the poor officers' fists with their faces.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""People assault the poor officers' fists with their faces."'

    What's amazing is that they can do it with their hands cuffed behind their backs. That's talent.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    The politicians are seeing how mad people got when the coward cop in Parkland was fired for not doing his job and then retired getting full pension.

    Americans are becoming uncontrollable and that scares police, bureaucrats, and politicians.

  • sarcasmic||

    Americans are becoming uncontrollable and that scares police, bureaucrats, and politicians.

    What planet are you on? Americans are docile. We're the domesticated descendants of free people. Nobody I know has even heard of that cop. People don't care. Bread and circuses are all most people care about.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Times are a changing as they say.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    You know something though, I do have to hand it to Negro Nixon and his nasty little government cabal: they were far smarter and more clever than the original Tricky Dick and his crew. The original hired a bunch of incompetent bumblers to plant a listening device in a hotel, and got caught red-handed. Never a well thought out plan from the jump.

    The 2.0 version's plan by contrast was so much slicker! Manufacture an official-looking "dossier" full of bogus information sourced to current and former spooks, put a nice little binder on the thing, and shop it to one judge after another after another until you finally find a judge friendly enough to your cause, so you can get the (unjustified) warrants you need in order to cover the whole sordid operation with the thin veneer of legality that Watergate never came even close to having. Look long enough and hard enough, and you can pretty much always eventually find a friendly judge out there somewhere.

    Well, Chocolate Messiah and crew are indeed smart, but not quite smart enough. Because once again the whole thing is about to completely unravel. The truth almost always eventually comes out in the end!

  • ||

    Members of the @libertycaucus joined me to oppose this bill in accordance with the Constitution.

    Whatever Amash! Reason repeatedly assures me that these are empty gestures and that your opposition to such legislation, though procedurally in line with your espoused support of liberty, is feigned and that both parties are equally guilty of all things and at all times.

  • BYODB||

    Wow, so 'hate crimes' can now be based on mutable characteristics? So when are we getting hate crime legislation for 'Republican' and 'Democrat' both? I really look forward to all the double-jeopardy prosecutions!


    Ugh...

  • Jumbie||

    I'll be coming to DC area for a visit May 21st to 31st.

    Anyone want to hang out or do a meetup? I've been sitting here in a place with no libertarians most of my adult life while semi-lurking Reason to get sips of liberty, so it'd be great to meet some of you in person. I think. We tried to do a meetup when I made my San Fran trip, but unfortunately, I got sick that day and missed it.

    Anyone have advice on places to visit? I did the tourist thing last time I was in DC like the museums and the Mall etc and I'm mostly just looking to experience everyday life for a novel I'm working on, particularly any enclaves of West Indian immigrants. I'm also interested in lesser known monuments, particularly the boundary stones (boundarystones.org)

  • Henry||

    Some of us who don't know where you're from are intrigued by your description of a place with no libertarians. Enlighten us?

  • Jumbie||

    Guyana.

    We have three main political parties who only really differ on what level of corruption they tolerate in their government handouts, which demographic they hand out to and what project they think makes them look more impressive when they spend government money on it.

    And the problem is the people expect the government to be the ones who do the investing in the country and control the economy etc.

    We are a in practice a regulated free-market in most things, but the onerousness of the regulations is offset by the easy ways to circumvent them via lack of enforcement and corruption.

  • Nardz||

    Umm....

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    This concept of hate crimes legislative writ isn't working out like I thought it would.

  • Sigivald||

    If it's legal to sell raw milk in two different states, why would the federal government put you in prison for taking milk between those two states

    1) It's dumb that it does so, and I suppose having it stop.
    2) At least the commerce clause actually grants the Feds that power, so there's that; they're not just making something up, for once.
    3) In principle - apart from this particular case - there's no reason the Federal government can't potentially be in the right to ban interstate of a thing that is not banned in two states.

    Obviously I think the bar's a lot higher that Congress does, but as a matter of pure reasoning from first principles of Constitutional government in America, "two states allow this, thus the Feds have no place banning it interstate" doesn't strictly follow.

  • WillPaine||

    One could easily put shoplifting onto "interfering with commerce". Dangerous noise, and the Tenth Amendment is solid in its intent to control such edicts as might be made by the Federal government. Keep fighting the good fight, Mr. Amash; thank you

    (just like shouting gun gun gun (before an execution of fear or hate, or bad training/culture), into the recorder, or stop resisting, an officer could hit me with a billy club for anything, and if I tried to block it, I might hurt his wrist, and face Federal prosecution for such. I love the police we have in Boulder County (and sheriffs); we are fortunate. I know the police of elsewhere, not so much
    peace

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