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  • in Bogu Xinhua News Agency/Newscomin Bogu Xinhua News Agency/NewscomPresident Trump lifts his spirits with a visit to baby border wall prototypes in California.
  • Recently fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson snubs Trump in his outgoing address. Current CIA director Mike Pompeo has been tapped to take over the position.
  • Meanwhile, Trump's pick to replace Pompeo, Gina Haspel,played a major role in the agency's torture program.
  • U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.
  • California and the EPA clash over state-level fuel economy standards.
  • New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    President Trump lifts his spirits with a visit to baby border wall prototypes in California.

    We have a baby border now?

  • Rich||

    "Baby on Border"

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Babies can only be anchors if they started out on this side of the wall.

  • Sometimes a Great Notion||

    What is the tensile strength of an anchor baby?

  • Agammamon||

    Unknown - in our testing the anchor babies broke before the weight-test machine's gauge even twitched. In hindsight, a machine designed to test 3,000 lb static loads might have been a poor choice to start with.

  • ||

    Hello.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Recently fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson snubs Trump in his outgoing address.

    That book deal is going to be fantastic!

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Trump snubbed Tillerson throughout his entire tenure as SecState, so it's only fitting.

  • Jerryskids||

    What asshole thought Tillerson was going to be a good match for the Trumpster? The same asshole that thought Bannon and Priebus were just the team to lead Trump's White House? I sure am glad Trump fired those losers - I hope he fired whoever was dumb enough to have picked them in the first place.

  • CE||

    Trump picked him himself.

  • Red Tony||

    that'sthejoke.gif

  • Eidde||

    How Rex Got Hexed

    My Struggle Against Donald Trump

    Progs are Much Nicer to Me Now, Maybe it's my New Aftershave

  • Rich||

    Tease for the Tillerson

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    *golf clap

  • Citizen X - #6||

    +1 Yusuf Islam

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    -1 Yusuf Cat Stevens, as he was advertised on his last tour.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    +1 brand relaunch

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Unfortunate, but true.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    Allah needs cash baby.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.

    Pretty soon they'll be building a wall, too.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I say that I'm open borders, but I must say I understand their decision considering that Australia is their neighbor.

  • colorblindkid||

    Even Trump is less "xenophobic" than the vast majority of the wonderful progressive utopias American lefties seem to cherish so much (that all also happen to be the whitest, least diverse places). International Gallup and Pew polls show American Republicans are more immigrant friendly and less racist than the average citizen of most European countries.

  • Eidde||

    Polls also show that Theodore Bilbo was less racist than the average European soccer fan.

    Source: A warm, moist place.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I want to know more about this source.

  • Eidde||

    Well, tough luck.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    This source is not available 3-7 days each month.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    That sounds like quitter talk.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Yet another BUCS fetish comes to light.

  • Fancylad||

    Is your source open for visits?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""Even Trump is less "xenophobic" than the vast majority of the wonderful progressive utopias American lefties seem to cherish so much (that all also happen to be the whitest, least diverse places). ""

    Maybe,

    But it is true that the US has some of the most liberal immigration laws of any country.

  • Rich||

    Current CIA director Mike Pompeo has been tapped to take over the position.

    And Gina Haspel has been tapped to take over Pompeo's position?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Next link down, homeslice.

  • Rich||

    "Tapped", homeslice.

    /#MeToo

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Your innuendo was too subtle for late afternoon on a long Tuesday.

  • Rich||

    I understand.

    But will *she*?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    She ran a black op torture site in Thailand, so subtlety's probably not her thing.

  • Eidde||

    No safe word?

  • Eidde||

    Wait, the safe word is "I'll sign, I'll sign!"

  • John||

    Once in a while, The Onion still has it.

    http://politics.theonion.com/g.....1823740451

    Gina Haspel Recalls Having To Torture More Prisoners Than Male Colleagues To Prove Herself

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    "We finally got the answers we seek, detainee."
    "I don't understand. I don't remember anything."
    "What's to understand? I came in you, you came onto the floor."

  • CE||

    In a just world, Haspel would be awaiting sentencing in war crimes court.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    According to "the news" she is highly regarded by CIA rank and file. Why? Because she was just doing her job when she was a torturer.

  • Red Tony||

    Off-topic: Worst Reason trolls, round five: annoying-ass know-it-alls:

    Tony vs. Red Tony vs. Reverend Arthur L. Kirkland

  • John||

    Red Tony. Kirkland has been a shooting star but hasn't had time to build up the same body of work. It's like comparing Karl Anthony Townes to Dwayne Wade. Townes may be the better player now but he hasn't been in the league long enough to create the same body of work that Wade has.

  • Jerryskids||

    I believe the Rev. is a well-known name on another site. He's no rookie, he's just been recently traded to this team.

  • John||

    He is more like Ichiro Suzuki coming over from Japan and hitting.340

  • The_Hoser||

    But his secondary average blows.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I almost feel like the Rev shouldn't count since he's so new. But still, the Rev is my vote. That guy is a complete blowhard.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Tony, because the illogic of his arguments is completely unassailable.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Tony's been coming to Hit'n'Run regularly for something like 8-9 years, and in that time has managed to learn nothing about any subject.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I don't think that's the original Tony.

  • John||

    Tony is more of a franchise now.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    He's the Dread Pirate Roberts of the commentariat.

  • Wizard with a Woodchipper||

    *thunderous opera applause.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Tony is a crowd-sourced entity? What is this, a username for ants?

  • Kivlor||

    I'm pretty sure people used to say the same about Bo. That he was actually used by a group of people that changed over time. I think I remember someone claiming that...

  • Red Tony||

    I'm gonna put in a vote here (although I probably shouldn't): give me Reverend A. L. Kirkland. GOD that guy is a smug dipshit.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Did you see my question re the insane trolls last night? Why wasn't Hihn included?

  • DiegoF||

    The Rev used language so close to Hihn's--right down to the use of "goober," which in retrospect might be a generational thing--that I thought it was actually him in some calmer moments. I would vote him, but I'm saving him for the Rookie of the Year award. So, Tony. Red Tony is definitely out because I didn't even know he was a troll, which is never a good sign.

  • Red Tony||

    I didn't know I was a troll either, but I'm definitely a know-it-all. Also I feel some responsibility for Past Me. Thus my inclusion.

  • Red Tony||

    The Hihnfection appears in Round Six.

  • Jerryskids||

    Round Six is Hihniest Hihn? Hihn's sui generis, it would be a grievous insult to include anybody else in that category.

  • Red Tony||

    If anybody deserves grievous insults, it's Stalin.

    But he's not here, so we'll give them to Hihn instead.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    There's only one true Red Tony and it ain't you.

  • Fancylad||

    Tony, because he inhabits the role completely.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Definitely a method troll.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    He has a whole ritual to get into his role. The ritual includes:

  • Kivlor||

    Tony. Definitely.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    Mtrueman.

  • Tony||

    Finally you get to me.

    Again, you people have got to get a fucking life.

  • Red Tony||

    What does it say about your life choices if Future You mocks you on a public forum after having been exiled from his own time after being a dick on the internet?

  • Tony||

    You gonna do "trolls who let a running gag go on for way too long"?

    You really waste my time when I'm searching for my name on these threads, you know.

  • Red Tony||

    See, that egotism is one of the reasons you got exiled to the past. I'm just trying to help you avoid this future.

  • Tony||

    My ego is a rather integral part of who I am.

  • Red Tony||

    I know that. It's a rather integral part of who I am.

    Just maybe work on it is all.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    You guys should both read The Man Who Folded Himself.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    [insert sound of Moe cracking skulls]

  • Tony||

    Why read it when we're living it?

    Well I'm off to have sex with myself.

  • Red Tony||

    Don't eat a Hot Pocket this time. I had to learn that lesson the hard way.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    Says the person posting repetitively in the exact same thread.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    I vote for the (((true))) Red Tony.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.

    Somebody threw a bunch of racist leaflets all over my neighborhood once. Does this mean i can sue Hammermill and Kinko's?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Look, the UN needs this.

  • DiegoF||

    Cut them some slack. They're essentially professional pointers. (Can you think of anything else they do? You want them just to waste the billions of dollars they're paid?) That finger is going to point somewhere; if not there, then to abortion restrictions and lack of trans antidiscrimination laws in first-world countries, or to a shameful lack of vaping bans in the Congolese war zone.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I wouldn't mess with International Paper. They own more land than Ted Turner.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Kill the messenger!!

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    It means you can point the finger at them.

  • Red Tony||

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Sue them and demand that they stop using deadly assault paper.

  • ||

    U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.

    If Facebook is on the hook for allowing hateful rhetoric against Rohingya, what do these people get?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.

    Hitler Youth started out as a Facebook group, you know.

  • DiegoF||

    Bullshit; they did not have Facebook back then. Everyone knows they began life as a Friendster network.

  • Eidde||

    "New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners."

    What about renewable 99-year leases?

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.

    Even Mick Jones?

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    Yes. They're as cold as ice.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.

    I remember when they were going to be the new libertopia.

  • John||

    http://pjmedia.com/trending/lg.....-of-state/

    Gays are pissed Secretary of State doesn't worship at the alter of gay marriage.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    How is allowing the government to tell people who they can marry that consistent with being a libertarian?

  • John||

    You can marry anyone you want. Marriage is a private institution the government recognizes. If the government tomorrow refused to recognize any marriage, would people suddenly consider themselves divorced? No, they would not. So, the issue is not about who can marry. Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry. What they could not do before now was get the government to recognize that marriage. And no, demanding the government recognize your marriage and use the power of the gun to force everyone else to do so, is not very libertarian. This is why libertarians used to object to government recognition of marriage.

  • Tony||

    You're totally on the path to winning this one John! Keep at it!

  • John||

    Yes Tony keep rubbing that boor in people's faces. Keep making gay synonymous with letigious oppressive asshole. Good luck with that. I am sure when the Muslims show up to murder you, you are going to get a lot of sympathy from all of the people you hate so much.

    And Justice Kennedy is going to retire this summer. I am sure Trump will appoint someone gay affirming. He is a really nice guy right?

  • Tony||

    To people who read pajamas media and whatever other rathole media sources you frequent, gays are whatever they tell you we are, and there's no changing that until you start consulting actual news sources.

  • John||

    Kennedy is retiring this summer. That is known all over Washington. Again, tell me how Trump is going to appoint someone gay affirming. He will won't he? You do know who Kennedy is don't you?

  • DiegoF||

    Kennedy is a power-hungry maniac who has been waging a barely disguised decades-long jihad to encode his own political beliefs about capital punishment and gay rights in legal precedent, the actual law be damned. In Obergefell no one even concurred, probably because his opinion was so shitty that no one could have done so without gravely embarrassing him.

    That said, I'm not sure I buy that he's retiring.

  • Tony||

    I don't think he's power hungry so much as eternally fixated on his own navel.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Immediately after the rumor of Kennedy retiring, certain lefties came out immediately that he already has new clerks set up for this summer and into 2019.

    Of course, the truth is not clear yet about what he will do. I do find it interesting that the left probably has press releases all ready to go for Kennedy retiring and RBG dying to stave off Trump nominating better justices than RBG and Kennedy.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    John already made his good point.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    But the reason the recognition matters is that various governments have granted certain rights to spouses (community property, retirement protections, spousal privelage, etc). If the government declines to represent certain types of marriages then people in those marriages would be suffering discrimination at the hands of the government, wouldn't they?

  • John||

    Those "rights" are nothing but mandatory contract terms. You can have those rights too if you want to sign a contract. If your marriage is recognized by the government, you get those "rights' whether you want them or not. Government marriage is a bargain whereby you give up your right to set the terms of your marriage and in return, the government agrees to coerce everyone else into recognizing your marriage. The entire thing is about coercion. But since gays wanted in on it and Libertarians think gays are sacred, libertarians suddenly decided coercion wasn't so bad.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Well, spousal privilege isn't something you can replace with a contract. Neither are any of the tax benefits related to being married. And the ability to receive your spouse's social security can't be done with a contract either. Coercion would work in the opposite direction in those cases.

    You can't just say "yeah, your neighbors have rights that you don't have because, well, because we think you're icky". That's not the way equal protection under the law works.......

  • Tony||

    It's okay because John immediately divorced upon discovering this enlightening libertarian view of marriage coincidentally just as gays were gaining marriage rights, as he didn't want to be a raging hypocrite, right John?

  • DiegoF||

    There are fewer truly intractable spousal privileges than the anti-privatizers would have the public believe. But I do admit there are some, like legal confidentiality. I don't know what to do about that. Do you have any suggestions, John?

  • John||

    Let everyone designate one person as their family privilege. That can be your spouse or your parent. You get one and it can change over time if you want it too

  • Tony||

    Marriage has sufficed for people for a long time. In fact, people like you like to remind us of that a lot. Why pretend that you're against the concept now suddenly once gays get in on it?

  • DiegoF||

    I certainly have always thought this was a fine policy for nearly every other purpose involving the state, but I've been less sure it's appropriate for the specific case of immunity from legal testimony. I guess I'll have to look closer into the history and reasoning behind this provision, and think on it harder.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I don't know how one can rationalize the immunity from testimony at all.

  • DiegoF||

    That's always been my most immediate thought. But I figured being compelled to testify against your spouse would be clearly considered repugnant and monstrous to the average intuition, including libertarians. I wanted to get a feeling for this.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    My feeling is why is that special but having to compelled to testify against my father? My Mother? My best friend who I've known since before I can remember? This is a problem that arises from anyone being compelled to testify, and so I ask why is this one special relationship special?

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    I think the fact that "the state can compel you to testify at all" is the base problem here.

    Any and all exceptions to it should be honed in on and diligently expanded until there is no compulsion to testify left at all. Like a team of sappers under a castle's wall.

  • Agammamon||

    We could always just remove the immunity from legal testimony.

    Priests don't have it. Reporters don't have it.

    Lawyers, sure. Doctors? Maybe. Outside of that . . .

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    We want... more people being compelled to speak?

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    But since gays wanted in on it and Libertarians think gays are humans, libertarians suddenly decided the 14th amendmemt wasn't so bad.

    FTFY

  • John||

    Every human has the right to use the government to stomp on the rights of others I guess. As long as they don't like the sacred gays. The only people Libertarians consider more sacred than gays are Muslims

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    So you admit to not being a libertarian?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Remind me just when positive rights became a libertarian thing. I must have missed the pamphlet.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    What positive right is allegedly being claimed here???

  • Agammamon||

    He's never been a libertarian and has never hid that fact.

  • Agammamon||

    You can have those rights too if you want to sign a contract.

    Actually - you can't. Not only are there states that specifically prohibit contracts that mirror marriage (leftovers from before the USSC said the states can't exclude homosexuals from marriage itself) but pretty much no state will recognize a marriage contract that doesn't come with a state license.

    You certainly aren't free to decide how property is split, how custody will be handled, and who will arbitrate contract disputes.

    You would really be better - in the common law marriage states - to *not* have a contract at all and just 'cohabitat as man and wife' and hope for the best.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    As long as we have a government(fed/state/local) that bases some of a citizen's rights, privileges and immunities on marital status it is obligated to treat all marriages the same. I would argue this is true for polygamists as well, as opposition is purely religious based. This is a libertarian pov, not the strawman you just destroyed.

  • chipper me timbers||

    " Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry."

    Why exactly are these folks excluded?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    There was a concern back when the gene pool was smaller than it is now that incest and polygamy would wreck the gene pool or something like that.

    Libertarians would not support government force on who can or cannot get married. The government should just recognize a marriage contract not be the guardian of who gets to marry.

  • Agammamon||

    Marriage is a private institution the government recognizes.

    Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry.

    So, its not a private institution then, is it? No, its a state institution - the *state* decides who can 'solemnify' a marriage and which forms of partnership it will kill people to prevent them engaging in.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    When the hell did Mike Pompeo become libertarian?

  • Juice||

    What the hell does the CIA have to do with government recognition of marriage?

  • John||

    Good question.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    marriage...waterboarding...

  • Tony||

    It's now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not. All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership.

    (And I don't think they'll settle for people like John dragging them out as props whenever he wants to explain what assholes Muslims are.)

  • John||

    He is going to be secretary of state. So go fuck yourself Tony. How does it feel to be in the minority?

  • Tony||

    The typical mature type of thing of a person might say who's very concerned with American foreign policy.

    I'm not in the minority. Your president sucks and everyone knows it.

  • John||

    I enjoy your misery Tony. You enjoy other peoples misery. Why shouldn't I enjoy yours?

  • Tony||

    I don't enjoy other people's misery. Not even a little. That's what makes you people terrible and what makes me better than you.

    It's fascinating and alarming that you feel this way and don't get that it's called psychopathy.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""It's now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not. All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership."'

    Oh, now you have an issue with this? Hillary taking money from countries that imprisons gays wasn't an issue for you then.

  • Tony||

    She was also in the most gay-friendly administration in history. Granted, that was a matter of timing as much as anything.

    But do keep propping up gays to score partisan points. For Republicans, no less.

  • The Last American Hero||

    You mean the one that called marriage between a man and a woman until 2012? or the one that had to have the Supremes make gay marriage the law of the land?

    I don't recall Obama waving a rainbow flag at a rally either, come to think of it. But his successor did.

  • DiegoF||

    Don't forget he did it only after Biden--who, credit where credit is due, really does earnestly seem to care about this cause--forced his hand. For which Obama went apeshit on him when he saw him next, bromance notwithstanding.

  • Tony||

    Obama was too cautious, but you can't blame him for that.

  • Deplorable||

    "Obama was too cautious, but you can't blame him for that."

    No more than you can stop making excuses for him.

  • In Time Of War||

    Yes, yes we can. There's this thing called "Leadership", Tony, and if he wasn't leading then...what was he doing?

  • Tony||

    Being the first black president.

  • Juice||

    It's now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not.

    Eh, maybe in the right not to be persecuted for being gay, sure, but it's probably not good diplomacy to preach to other countries that they need to recognize gay marriage as soon as possible. They should, but it's counterproductive to tell them they should when they don't want to.

  • Tony||

    Just saying it's not helpful to the cause of either gay rights or the US's reputation as a promoter of liberal moral values to have a fundie asshole as SoS, but whatever, that's what the minority of voters wanted in 2016.

  • DiegoF||

    Yeah, what the fuck are they going to do, preach to Italy for not using the word "marriage" for their gay people's unions while preaching to Saudi Arabia not to behead so many of them? Even the UN is not so hypocritical and stupid.

  • Agammamon||

    All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership.

    Hahahahahahaha! that is hilarious.

    1. That the US has any moral authority in *anything* anymore.

    2. That the only thing holding Iran back from a pogrom is that the US might send them a sternly worded letter.

    3. Maybe instead of depending on our moral leadership they should shoot more motherfuckers in the face?

  • Agammamon||

    What the hell does the CIA have to do with government recognition of marriage?

    That's just what they want you to think.

  • Fancylad||

    It must be fun to become what you used to hate. I've never seen a former victim group become oppressive tyrants quite so quickly.

  • Tony||

    For criticizing a cabinet pick?

  • John||

    For being the narrow-minded oppressive assholes their worst critics claimed they were.

  • Tony||

    They can't oppose Trump's appointment?

  • Agammamon||

    Cathy Newman much?

  • Rich||

    The University of Minnesota has invited a professor dedicated to "dismantling whiteness" to speak next week on how whiteness is an "existential threat" to the United States.

    "The Elephant in the Room: A 'Grown Up' Conversation about Whiteness" will be presented by Lisa Anderson-Levy

    I believe it should read "will be 'presented'".

  • John||

    If White people are an "existential threat", doesn't that mean murdering them is justified? How could it not be?

  • Rich||

    HATE SPEECH!

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Yes, it is justified.

  • John||

    They are openly advocating for mass murder and genocide. But it is everyone else who is racist and fascist.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    You can't build yourself up, by tearing someone else down.

  • Juice||

    Or by misusing commas.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    You, can't, build yourself, up, by tearing, someone, else, down?

    Prefer the Shatner commas?

  • John||

    Shatner Commas. That is awesome.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Those are Walken commas.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Stephen Hawking commas.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ouch.

  • Juice||

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Isn't the concept that "people that aren't like me are assholes, every one of them" sort of, uh, racist?

  • CE||

    About 300 years too late.

  • John||

    http://www.americanthinker.com.....MI.twitter

    Threatening journalists is different when we do it.

  • Eidde||

    "The proposed law, which the government says will bring New Zealand into line with neighboring Australia, will classify residential land as "sensitive," meaning non-residents or non-citizens can't purchase existing dwellings without the consent of the Overseas Investment Office. While it allows non-resident foreigners to invest in new construction, it forces them to sell once the homes are built."

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.

    Too much free spech.

  • John||

    http://deadline.com/2018/03/da.....202336705/

    CBS President "there is still a lot of reporting to do on Stormy Daniels". I bet there is.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I love when the mainstream media covers porn stars. I wish they'd cover that one crazy one who is turning herself black.

  • John||

    They sent reporters to the strip club she where she was performing. They were just doing "research".

  • Tony||

    Did they go to the one in Vegas Trump went to where the strippers pee on each other? No, not Moscow. Your president just really likes pee play.

    Something you'd totally be cool with if he had a (D) after his name.

  • John||

    Tony, that is fake news spread by Russian agents. According to Mueller you are committing a fraud against the United States by repeating such things. You could be indicted for that. Be careful.

  • Tony||

    What an astute grasp of the situation you have.

  • John||

    Meuller indicted 20 Russians for doing exactly what you are doing.

  • Tony||

    I'm not working for Russia. Are you?

  • John||

    I am not spreading Russian Propaganda. You are. So tell us, are you working for the Russians?

  • Tony||

    The Russians were on Trump's side. And you don't kinda believe the pee stuff?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    ""Your president just really likes pee play.""

    Who cares if he does? Don't you support alt lifestyles?

  • Tony||

    To a point. I mean I hung out with goths in my youth. One of them had a boy slave. That seems kinda handy if nothing else.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Boys are over-represented in the goth slave space.

    #ThemToo

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I do. Everyone has a right to their magical realm.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    That's not true. As Libertarians, pee-play is central to our doctrine.

  • John||

    Tony suddenly becomes concerned about sexual morality.

  • Tony||

    I've always been concerned with outrageous hypocrisy.

  • John||

    Yes Tony, you care about other people's morality but not your own. I don't think the word hypocrisy means what you think it does.

  • Tony||

    It means when you call for a coup against Clinton over a BJ and turn around and 100% support a piss play serial porn star cheater who looks at undressing little girls at beauty pageants, you might be a hypocrite.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Tony, the "blow job" stuff is a canard. Clinton committed perjury in a civil deposition while he was President. You can argue whether that reaches the "high crimes and misdemeanors" standard or not, I guess, but to dismiss it out of hand as potentially an impeachable offense is silly and partisan.

  • Tony||

    It was arguably right to impeach for his lying to answer the question, but it was wrong for the question to have been asked in the first place.

    It's total historical revisionism to pretend that this wasn't a politically motivated lurid sex panic tantrum thrown by a bunch of fat Republican hypocrites who were all cheating on their wives or diddling little boys at the time.

    I'm just glad we're obviously going to apply the same standards to Trump.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    "it was wrong for the question to have been asked in the first place."

    No it wasn't. He was being sued by an Arkansas state employee for sexual harassment he had allegedly done when he was governor of Arkansas. The question he committed perjury on related to trying to prove his habit of chasing subordinate skirt.

    Is it your position that an employee of any entity (government or private) should not be allowed to sue for damages when a superior in that organization calls them into a room and whips their dick out? Didn't figure you for a supporter of the Bad Boys Club, but I get surprised every day......

  • Tony||

    I'm pretty liberal on workplace sex actually. Think of all the babies the world would lack if bosses really couldn't ever fuck their secretaries.

    My main issue is hypocrisy.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    "My main issue is hypocrisy."

    I think you're quite good at it.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Hypocrisy is all Tony knows.

    Say Democracy is the important then undermine it to get socialists in power.

    Say freedom is important then undermine it to curtail freedom.

    Say sex is nobody's business then say Trump deserves to be impeached for sexual activity before he was president.

  • Tony||

    No, he deserves to be impeached for the treason.

  • Tony||

    Trump had stormy relationship with Foggy Bottom, foggy relationship with Stormy's bottom.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    That's the kind of joke that gets people throwing stuff at you.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    For what it's worth, Tesla added it does not view its Supercharger stations as a "profit center" and that they will never be operated in that manner.

    FWIW, Tesla Corporation isn't a profit center.

    BOOM! I am here all ze veek.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    How much does it cost? Is it comparable to gasoline?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I will say that up here that owning a Tesla still seems to be more a status symbol than anything. But here's hoping.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    The last person that complained about that woke up in a Tesla Roadster in a space suit.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Whew. I expected Barbarella on the other side of that link. Bullet dodged.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    What's wrong with Barbarella?

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    Commie boners are un-American.

  • CE||

    But if you bought a Tesla, you're already woke.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    Fortunato Hedge Funds Founder Missing!

    Bezos Celebrates Falcon Heavy Success
    With Cask Of Amontillado!

  • Juice||

    No, just really cheap.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    How cheap is it? I'm looking at new (new to me) cars, and I was thinking of a partial electric.

  • Agammamon||

    Doooooooon't.

    Complete waste of money. Unless you want to get one because you have money to burn and just want a 'new tech' toy.

    You're not going to save money over the price premium for them.

    If you keep them for more than 5 years you're going to pay a hefty chunk to have the battery pack replaced.

    Its going to be more sluggish than a comparable class and size car.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric

    "In other news, the Myanmar government has taken legal action against Facebook for fueling hysteria about alleged violence against Rohingya Muslims by allowing for the dissemination of alarmist rhetoric."

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    If the US government doesn't do anything, then someday it might be their atrocities being broadcast.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    It was only a matter of time before governments learned about intersectionality.

  • DiegoF||

    Is there something to suggest that the Rohingya are not, in fact, getting by far the worst of the violence in their region?

    I feel bad for the Rohingya, because the people of Western countries have been exposed to so much "Islamophobia" wolf-crying and shameless Islamism-brownnosing that few seem to be in any mood to stick up for a Muslim population when they really are persecuted. And the government and Buddhist clerics really know how to play to that.

    Between this and the "Russia" wolf-crying, if Karadžić was operating today he'd probably get volunteers flying in to help him run the camps.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    I was just pointing out that Facebook presumably allows speech from both sides of the issue**, thus demonstrating their would-be persecutors' inability to understand the concept of free speech forums.

    **I presume, but make no claim to know

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