Trump Visits Baby Border Walls, Tillerson Snubs Trump in Outgoing Address, and California/EPA Clash Over Fuel Economy Standards: P.M. Links

Christian Britschgi | 3.13.2018 4:30 PM

in Bogu Xinhua News Agency/Newscom

President Trump lifts his spirits with a visit to baby border wall prototypes in California.

Recently fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson snubs Trump in his outgoing address. Current CIA director Mike Pompeo has been tapped to take over the position.

Meanwhile, Trump's pick to replace Pompeo, Gina Haspel,played a major role in the agency's torture program.

U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.

California and the EPA clash over state-level fuel economy standards.

New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.

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Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago

President Trump lifts his spirits with a visit to baby border wall prototypes in California.
We have a baby border now?
1. Rich 6 years ago
  
  “Baby on Border”
  1. Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago
    
    Babies can only be anchors if they started out on this side of the wall.
    1. Sometimes a Great Notion 6 years ago
      
      What is the tensile strength of an anchor baby?
      1. Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        Unknown – in our testing the anchor babies broke before the weight-test machine’s gauge even twitched. In hindsight, a machine designed to test 3,000 lb static loads might have been a poor choice to start with.
2. Rufus The Monocled 6 years ago
  
  Hello.
Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago

Recently fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson snubs Trump in his outgoing address.
That book deal is going to be fantastic!
1. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
  
  Trump snubbed Tillerson throughout his entire tenure as SecState, so it’s only fitting.
  1. Jerryskids 6 years ago
    
    What asshole thought Tillerson was going to be a good match for the Trumpster? The same asshole that thought Bannon and Priebus were just the team to lead Trump’s White House? I sure am glad Trump fired those losers – I hope he fired whoever was dumb enough to have picked them in the first place.
    1. CE 6 years ago
      
      Trump picked him himself.
      1. Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        that’sthejoke.gif
2. Eidde 6 years ago
  
  How Rex Got Hexed
  My Struggle Against Donald Trump
  Progs are Much Nicer to Me Now, Maybe it’s my New Aftershave
  1. Rich 6 years ago
    
    Tease for the Tillerson
    1. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
      
      *golf clap
    2. Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
      
      +1 Yusuf Islam
      1. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
        
        -1 Yusuf Cat Stevens, as he was advertised on his last tour.
        
        Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
        
        +1 brand relaunch
        
        Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
        
        Unfortunate, but true.
        
        This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
        
        Allah needs cash baby.
Citizen X - #6 6 years ago

New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.
Pretty soon they’ll be building a wall, too.
1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
  
  I say that I’m open borders, but I must say I understand their decision considering that Australia is their neighbor.
2. colorblindkid 6 years ago
  
  Even Trump is less “xenophobic” than the vast majority of the wonderful progressive utopias American lefties seem to cherish so much (that all also happen to be the whitest, least diverse places). International Gallup and Pew polls show American Republicans are more immigrant friendly and less racist than the average citizen of most European countries.
  1. Eidde 6 years ago
    
    Polls also show that Theodore Bilbo was less racist than the average European soccer fan.
    Source: A warm, moist place.
    1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
      
      I want to know more about this source.
      1. Eidde 6 years ago
        
        Well, tough luck.
      2. Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        This source is not available 3-7 days each month.
        
        BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
        
        That sounds like quitter talk.
        
        Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        Yet another BUCS fetish comes to light.
    2. Fancylad 6 years ago
      
      Is your source open for visits?
  2. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
    
    “”Even Trump is less “xenophobic” than the vast majority of the wonderful progressive utopias American lefties seem to cherish so much (that all also happen to be the whitest, least diverse places). “”
    Maybe,
    But it is true that the US has some of the most liberal immigration laws of any country.
Rich 6 years ago

Current CIA director Mike Pompeo has been tapped to take over the position.
And Gina Haspel has been tapped to take over Pompeo’s position?
1. Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
  
  Next link down, homeslice.
  1. Rich 6 years ago
    
    “Tapped”, homeslice.
    /#MeToo
    1. Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
      
      Your innuendo was too subtle for late afternoon on a long Tuesday.
      1. Rich 6 years ago
        
        I understand.
        But will *she*?
        
        Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
        
        She ran a black op torture site in Thailand, so subtlety’s probably not her thing.
        
        Eidde 6 years ago
        
        No safe word?
        
        Eidde 6 years ago
        
        Wait, the safe word is “I’ll sign, I’ll sign!”
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Once in a while, The Onion still has it.
        http://politics.theonion.com/g…..1823740451
        Gina Haspel Recalls Having To Torture More Prisoners Than Male Colleagues To Prove Herself
        
        Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        “We finally got the answers we seek, detainee.”
        “I don’t understand. I don’t remember anything.”
        “What’s to understand? I came in you, you came onto the floor.”
        
        CE 6 years ago
        
        In a just world, Haspel would be awaiting sentencing in war crimes court.
        
        This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
        
        According to “the news” she is highly regarded by CIA rank and file. Why? Because she was just doing her job when she was a torturer.
Red Tony 6 years ago

Off-topic: Worst Reason trolls, round five: annoying-ass know-it-alls:
Tony vs. Red Tony vs. Reverend Arthur L. Kirkland
1. John 6 years ago
  
  Red Tony. Kirkland has been a shooting star but hasn’t had time to build up the same body of work. It’s like comparing Karl Anthony Townes to Dwayne Wade. Townes may be the better player now but he hasn’t been in the league long enough to create the same body of work that Wade has.
  1. Jerryskids 6 years ago
    
    I believe the Rev. is a well-known name on another site. He’s no rookie, he’s just been recently traded to this team.
    1. John 6 years ago
      
      He is more like Ichiro Suzuki coming over from Japan and hitting.340
      1. The_Hoser 6 years ago
        
        But his secondary average blows.
2. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
  
  I almost feel like the Rev shouldn’t count since he’s so new. But still, the Rev is my vote. That guy is a complete blowhard.
3. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
  
  Tony, because the illogic of his arguments is completely unassailable.
  1. Citizen X - #6 6 years ago
    
    Tony’s been coming to Hit’n’Run regularly for something like 8-9 years, and in that time has managed to learn nothing about any subject.
    1. Pro Libertate 6 years ago
      
      I don’t think that’s the original Tony.
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Tony is more of a franchise now.
      2. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
        
        He’s the Dread Pirate Roberts of the commentariat.
        
        Wizard with a Woodchipper 6 years ago
        
        *thunderous opera applause.
      3. Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        Tony is a crowd-sourced entity? What is this, a username for ants?
        
        Kivlor 6 years ago
        
        I’m pretty sure people used to say the same about Bo. That he was actually used by a group of people that changed over time. I think I remember someone claiming that…
4. Red Tony 6 years ago
  
  I’m gonna put in a vote here (although I probably shouldn’t): give me Reverend A. L. Kirkland. GOD that guy is a smug dipshit.
  1. Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
    
    Did you see my question re the insane trolls last night? Why wasn’t Hihn included?
    1. DiegoF 6 years ago
      
      The Rev used language so close to Hihn’s–right down to the use of “goober,” which in retrospect might be a generational thing–that I thought it was actually him in some calmer moments. I would vote him, but I’m saving him for the Rookie of the Year award. So, Tony. Red Tony is definitely out because I didn’t even know he was a troll, which is never a good sign.
      1. Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        I didn’t know I was a troll either, but I’m definitely a know-it-all. Also I feel some responsibility for Past Me. Thus my inclusion.
    2. Red Tony 6 years ago
      
      The Hihnfection appears in Round Six.
      1. Jerryskids 6 years ago
        
        Round Six is Hihniest Hihn? Hihn’s sui generis, it would be a grievous insult to include anybody else in that category.
        
        Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        If anybody deserves grievous insults, it’s Stalin.
        But he’s not here, so we’ll give them to Hihn instead.
  2. This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
    
    There’s only one true Red Tony and it ain’t you.
5. Fancylad 6 years ago
  
  Tony, because he inhabits the role completely.
  1. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
    
    Definitely a method troll.
    1. Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
      
      He has a whole ritual to get into his role. The ritual includes:
6. Kivlor 6 years ago
  
  Tony. Definitely.
7. Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
  
  Mtrueman.
8. Tony 6 years ago
  
  Finally you get to me.
  Again, you people have got to get a fucking life.
  1. Red Tony 6 years ago
    
    What does it say about your life choices if Future You mocks you on a public forum after having been exiled from his own time after being a dick on the internet?
    1. Tony 6 years ago
      
      You gonna do “trolls who let a running gag go on for way too long”?
      You really waste my time when I’m searching for my name on these threads, you know.
      1. Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        See, that egotism is one of the reasons you got exiled to the past. I’m just trying to help you avoid this future.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        My ego is a rather integral part of who I am.
        
        Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        I know that. It’s a rather integral part of who I am.
        Just maybe work on it is all.
        
        Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        You guys should both read The Man Who Folded Himself.
        
        This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
        
        [insert sound of Moe cracking skulls]
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        Why read it when we’re living it?
        Well I’m off to have sex with myself.
        
        Red Tony 6 years ago
        
        Don’t eat a Hot Pocket this time. I had to learn that lesson the hard way.
  2. Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
    
    Says the person posting repetitively in the exact same thread.
9. This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
  
  I vote for the (((true))) Red Tony.
Citizen X - #6 6 years ago

U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.
Somebody threw a bunch of racist leaflets all over my neighborhood once. Does this mean i can sue Hammermill and Kinko’s?
1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
  
  Look, the UN needs this.
  1. DiegoF 6 years ago
    
    Cut them some slack. They’re essentially professional pointers. (Can you think of anything else they do? You want them just to waste the billions of dollars they’re paid?) That finger is going to point somewhere; if not there, then to abortion restrictions and lack of trans antidiscrimination laws in first-world countries, or to a shameful lack of vaping bans in the Congolese war zone.
2. Pro Libertate 6 years ago
  
  I wouldn’t mess with International Paper. They own more land than Ted Turner.
3. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
  
  Kill the messenger!!
4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
  
  It means you can point the finger at them.
  1. Red Tony 6 years ago
    
    Well now I’ve got some advice for you little buddy
    Before you point the finger you should know that I’m the man
    And if I’m the man then you’re the man,and he’s the man as well
    So you can point your fucking finger up your ass
5. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
  
  Sue them and demand that they stop using deadly assault paper.
6. Square = Circle 6 years ago
  
  U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.
  If Facebook is on the hook for allowing hateful rhetoric against Rohingya, what do these people get?
Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago

U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.
Hitler Youth started out as a Facebook group, you know.
1. DiegoF 6 years ago
  
  Bullshit; they did not have Facebook back then. Everyone knows they began life as a Friendster network.
Eidde 6 years ago

“New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.”
What about renewable 99-year leases?
Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago

New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.
Even Mick Jones?
1. This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
  
  Yes. They’re as cold as ice.
Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago

New Zealand mulls a ban on home sales to foreigners.
I remember when they were going to be the new libertopia.
John 6 years ago

http://pjmedia.com/trending/lg…..-of-state/
Gays are pissed Secretary of State doesn’t worship at the alter of gay marriage.
1. bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
  
  How is allowing the government to tell people who they can marry that consistent with being a libertarian?
  1. John 6 years ago
    
    You can marry anyone you want. Marriage is a private institution the government recognizes. If the government tomorrow refused to recognize any marriage, would people suddenly consider themselves divorced? No, they would not. So, the issue is not about who can marry. Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry. What they could not do before now was get the government to recognize that marriage. And no, demanding the government recognize your marriage and use the power of the gun to force everyone else to do so, is not very libertarian. This is why libertarians used to object to government recognition of marriage.
    1. Tony 6 years ago
      
      You’re totally on the path to winning this one John! Keep at it!
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Yes Tony keep rubbing that boor in people’s faces. Keep making gay synonymous with letigious oppressive asshole. Good luck with that. I am sure when the Muslims show up to murder you, you are going to get a lot of sympathy from all of the people you hate so much.
        And Justice Kennedy is going to retire this summer. I am sure Trump will appoint someone gay affirming. He is a really nice guy right?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        To people who read pajamas media and whatever other rathole media sources you frequent, gays are whatever they tell you we are, and there’s no changing that until you start consulting actual news sources.
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Kennedy is retiring this summer. That is known all over Washington. Again, tell me how Trump is going to appoint someone gay affirming. He will won’t he? You do know who Kennedy is don’t you?
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        Kennedy is a power-hungry maniac who has been waging a barely disguised decades-long jihad to encode his own political beliefs about capital punishment and gay rights in legal precedent, the actual law be damned. In Obergefell no one even concurred, probably because his opinion was so shitty that no one could have done so without gravely embarrassing him.
        That said, I’m not sure I buy that he’s retiring.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        I don’t think he’s power hungry so much as eternally fixated on his own navel.
        
        loveconstitution1789 6 years ago
        
        Immediately after the rumor of Kennedy retiring, certain lefties came out immediately that he already has new clerks set up for this summer and into 2019.
        Of course, the truth is not clear yet about what he will do. I do find it interesting that the left probably has press releases all ready to go for Kennedy retiring and RBG dying to stave off Trump nominating better justices than RBG and Kennedy.
      2. loveconstitution1789 6 years ago
        
        John already made his good point.
    2. bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
      
      But the reason the recognition matters is that various governments have granted certain rights to spouses (community property, retirement protections, spousal privelage, etc). If the government declines to represent certain types of marriages then people in those marriages would be suffering discrimination at the hands of the government, wouldn’t they?
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Those “rights” are nothing but mandatory contract terms. You can have those rights too if you want to sign a contract. If your marriage is recognized by the government, you get those “rights’ whether you want them or not. Government marriage is a bargain whereby you give up your right to set the terms of your marriage and in return, the government agrees to coerce everyone else into recognizing your marriage. The entire thing is about coercion. But since gays wanted in on it and Libertarians think gays are sacred, libertarians suddenly decided coercion wasn’t so bad.
        
        bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
        
        Well, spousal privilege isn’t something you can replace with a contract. Neither are any of the tax benefits related to being married. And the ability to receive your spouse’s social security can’t be done with a contract either. Coercion would work in the opposite direction in those cases.
        You can’t just say “yeah, your neighbors have rights that you don’t have because, well, because we think you’re icky”. That’s not the way equal protection under the law works…….
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        It’s okay because John immediately divorced upon discovering this enlightening libertarian view of marriage coincidentally just as gays were gaining marriage rights, as he didn’t want to be a raging hypocrite, right John?
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        There are fewer truly intractable spousal privileges than the anti-privatizers would have the public believe. But I do admit there are some, like legal confidentiality. I don’t know what to do about that. Do you have any suggestions, John?
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Let everyone designate one person as their family privilege. That can be your spouse or your parent. You get one and it can change over time if you want it too
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        Marriage has sufficed for people for a long time. In fact, people like you like to remind us of that a lot. Why pretend that you’re against the concept now suddenly once gays get in on it?
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        I certainly have always thought this was a fine policy for nearly every other purpose involving the state, but I’ve been less sure it’s appropriate for the specific case of immunity from legal testimony. I guess I’ll have to look closer into the history and reasoning behind this provision, and think on it harder.
        
        BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
        
        I don’t know how one can rationalize the immunity from testimony at all.
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        That’s always been my most immediate thought. But I figured being compelled to testify against your spouse would be clearly considered repugnant and monstrous to the average intuition, including libertarians. I wanted to get a feeling for this.
        
        BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
        
        My feeling is why is that special but having to compelled to testify against my father? My Mother? My best friend who I’ve known since before I can remember? This is a problem that arises from anyone being compelled to testify, and so I ask why is this one special relationship special?
        
        Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
        
        I think the fact that “the state can compel you to testify at all” is the base problem here.
        Any and all exceptions to it should be honed in on and diligently expanded until there is no compulsion to testify left at all. Like a team of sappers under a castle’s wall.
        
        Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        We could always just remove the immunity from legal testimony.
        Priests don’t have it. Reporters don’t have it.
        Lawyers, sure. Doctors? Maybe. Outside of that . . .
        
        Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
        
        We want… more people being compelled to speak?
        
        Leo Kovalensky II 6 years ago
        
        But since gays wanted in on it and Libertarians think gays are humans, libertarians suddenly decided the 14th amendmemt wasn’t so bad.
        FTFY
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Every human has the right to use the government to stomp on the rights of others I guess. As long as they don’t like the sacred gays. The only people Libertarians consider more sacred than gays are Muslims
        
        Leo Kovalensky II 6 years ago
        
        So you admit to not being a libertarian?
        
        NotAnotherSkippy 6 years ago
        
        Remind me just when positive rights became a libertarian thing. I must have missed the pamphlet.
        
        Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
        
        What positive right is allegedly being claimed here???
        
        Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        He’s never been a libertarian and has never hid that fact.
        
        Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        You can have those rights too if you want to sign a contract.
        Actually – you can’t. Not only are there states that specifically prohibit contracts that mirror marriage (leftovers from before the USSC said the states can’t exclude homosexuals from marriage itself) but pretty much no state will recognize a marriage contract that doesn’t come with a state license.
        You certainly aren’t free to decide how property is split, how custody will be handled, and who will arbitrate contract disputes.
        You would really be better – in the common law marriage states – to *not* have a contract at all and just ‘cohabitat as man and wife’ and hope for the best.
    3. This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
      
      As long as we have a government(fed/state/local) that bases some of a citizen’s rights, privileges and immunities on marital status it is obligated to treat all marriages the same. I would argue this is true for polygamists as well, as opposition is purely religious based. This is a libertarian pov, not the strawman you just destroyed.
    4. chipper me timbers 6 years ago
      
      ” Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry.”
      Why exactly are these folks excluded?
      1. loveconstitution1789 6 years ago
        
        There was a concern back when the gene pool was smaller than it is now that incest and polygamy would wreck the gene pool or something like that.
        Libertarians would not support government force on who can or cannot get married. The government should just recognize a marriage contract not be the guardian of who gets to marry.
    5. Agammamon 6 years ago
      
      Marriage is a private institution the government recognizes.
      Anyone, other than polygamists or people who want to engage in incest can marry.
      So, its not a private institution then, is it? No, its a state institution – the *state* decides who can ‘solemnify’ a marriage and which forms of partnership it will kill people to prevent them engaging in.
  2. Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
    
    When the hell did Mike Pompeo become libertarian?
    1. Juice 6 years ago
      
      What the hell does the CIA have to do with government recognition of marriage?
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Good question.
        
        Unicorn Abattoir 6 years ago
        
        marriage…waterboarding…
      2. Tony 6 years ago
        
        It’s now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not. All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership.
        (And I don’t think they’ll settle for people like John dragging them out as props whenever he wants to explain what assholes Muslims are.)
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        He is going to be secretary of state. So go fuck yourself Tony. How does it feel to be in the minority?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        The typical mature type of thing of a person might say who’s very concerned with American foreign policy.
        I’m not in the minority. Your president sucks and everyone knows it.
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        I enjoy your misery Tony. You enjoy other peoples misery. Why shouldn’t I enjoy yours?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        I don’t enjoy other people’s misery. Not even a little. That’s what makes you people terrible and what makes me better than you.
        It’s fascinating and alarming that you feel this way and don’t get that it’s called psychopathy.
        
        TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
        
        “”It’s now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not. All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership.”‘
        Oh, now you have an issue with this? Hillary taking money from countries that imprisons gays wasn’t an issue for you then.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        She was also in the most gay-friendly administration in history. Granted, that was a matter of timing as much as anything.
        But do keep propping up gays to score partisan points. For Republicans, no less.
        
        The Last American Hero 6 years ago
        
        You mean the one that called marriage between a man and a woman until 2012? or the one that had to have the Supremes make gay marriage the law of the land?
        I don’t recall Obama waving a rainbow flag at a rally either, come to think of it. But his successor did.
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        Don’t forget he did it only after Biden–who, credit where credit is due, really does earnestly seem to care about this cause–forced his hand. For which Obama went apeshit on him when he saw him next, bromance notwithstanding.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        Obama was too cautious, but you can’t blame him for that.
        
        Deplorable 6 years ago
        
        “Obama was too cautious, but you can’t blame him for that.”
        No more than you can stop making excuses for him.
        
        In Time Of War 6 years ago
        
        Yes, yes we can. There’s this thing called “Leadership”, Tony, and if he wasn’t leading then…what was he doing?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        Being the first black president.
        
        Juice 6 years ago
        
        It’s now the State Department, and it matters whether our diplomacy champions gay rights or not.
        Eh, maybe in the right not to be persecuted for being gay, sure, but it’s probably not good diplomacy to preach to other countries that they need to recognize gay marriage as soon as possible. They should, but it’s counterproductive to tell them they should when they don’t want to.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        Just saying it’s not helpful to the cause of either gay rights or the US’s reputation as a promoter of liberal moral values to have a fundie asshole as SoS, but whatever, that’s what the minority of voters wanted in 2016.
        
        DiegoF 6 years ago
        
        Yeah, what the fuck are they going to do, preach to Italy for not using the word “marriage” for their gay people’s unions while preaching to Saudi Arabia not to behead so many of them? Even the UN is not so hypocritical and stupid.
        
        Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        All those gays being persecuted in other countries depend on our moral leadership.
        Hahahahahahaha! that is hilarious.
        1. That the US has any moral authority in *anything* anymore.
        2. That the only thing holding Iran back from a pogrom is that the US might send them a sternly worded letter.
        3. Maybe instead of depending on our moral leadership they should shoot more motherfuckers in the face?
      3. Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        What the hell does the CIA have to do with government recognition of marriage?
        That’s just what they want you to think.
2. Fancylad 6 years ago
  
  It must be fun to become what you used to hate. I’ve never seen a former victim group become oppressive tyrants quite so quickly.
  1. Tony 6 years ago
    
    For criticizing a cabinet pick?
    1. John 6 years ago
      
      For being the narrow-minded oppressive assholes their worst critics claimed they were.
      1. Tony 6 years ago
        
        They can’t oppose Trump’s appointment?
        
        Agammamon 6 years ago
        
        Cathy Newman much?
Rich 6 years ago

The University of Minnesota has invited a professor dedicated to “dismantling whiteness” to speak next week on how whiteness is an “existential threat” to the United States.
“The Elephant in the Room: A ‘Grown Up’ Conversation about Whiteness” will be presented by Lisa Anderson-Levy
I believe it should read “will be ‘presented'”.
1. John 6 years ago
  
  If White people are an “existential threat”, doesn’t that mean murdering them is justified? How could it not be?
  1. Rich 6 years ago
    
    HATE SPEECH!
  2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
    
    Yes, it is justified.
    1. John 6 years ago
      
      They are openly advocating for mass murder and genocide. But it is everyone else who is racist and fascist.
2. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
  
  You can’t build yourself up, by tearing someone else down.
  1. Juice 6 years ago
    
    Or by misusing commas.
    1. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
      
      You, can’t, build yourself, up, by tearing, someone, else, down?
      Prefer the Shatner commas?
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Shatner Commas. That is awesome.
      2. Chipper Morning Baculum 6 years ago
        
        Those are Walken commas.
      3. Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago
        
        Stephen Hawking commas.
        
        Fist of Etiquette 6 years ago
        
        Ouch.
3. Juice 6 years ago
  
  Sickitating
4. bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
  
  Isn’t the concept that “people that aren’t like me are assholes, every one of them” sort of, uh, racist?
5. CE 6 years ago
  
  About 300 years too late.
John 6 years ago

http://www.americanthinker.com…..MI.twitter
Threatening journalists is different when we do it.
Eidde 6 years ago

“The proposed law, which the government says will bring New Zealand into line with neighboring Australia, will classify residential land as “sensitive,” meaning non-residents or non-citizens can’t purchase existing dwellings without the consent of the Overseas Investment Office. While it allows non-resident foreigners to invest in new construction, it forces them to sell once the homes are built.”
Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago

U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric.
Too much free spech.
John 6 years ago

http://deadline.com/2018/03/da…..202336705/
CBS President “there is still a lot of reporting to do on Stormy Daniels”. I bet there is.
1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
  
  I love when the mainstream media covers porn stars. I wish they’d cover that one crazy one who is turning herself black.
  1. John 6 years ago
    
    They sent reporters to the strip club she where she was performing. They were just doing “research”.
    1. Tony 6 years ago
      
      Did they go to the one in Vegas Trump went to where the strippers pee on each other? No, not Moscow. Your president just really likes pee play.
      Something you’d totally be cool with if he had a (D) after his name.
      1. John 6 years ago
        
        Tony, that is fake news spread by Russian agents. According to Mueller you are committing a fraud against the United States by repeating such things. You could be indicted for that. Be careful.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        What an astute grasp of the situation you have.
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Meuller indicted 20 Russians for doing exactly what you are doing.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        I’m not working for Russia. Are you?
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        I am not spreading Russian Propaganda. You are. So tell us, are you working for the Russians?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        The Russians were on Trump’s side. And you don’t kinda believe the pee stuff?
      2. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
        
        “”Your president just really likes pee play.””
        Who cares if he does? Don’t you support alt lifestyles?
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        To a point. I mean I hung out with goths in my youth. One of them had a boy slave. That seems kinda handy if nothing else.
        
        Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
        
        Boys are over-represented in the goth slave space.
        #ThemToo
        
        BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
        
        I do. Everyone has a right to their magical realm.
        
        This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
        
        Yeeaahh
      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
        
        That’s not true. As Libertarians, pee-play is central to our doctrine.
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Tony suddenly becomes concerned about sexual morality.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        I’ve always been concerned with outrageous hypocrisy.
        
        John 6 years ago
        
        Yes Tony, you care about other people’s morality but not your own. I don’t think the word hypocrisy means what you think it does.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        It means when you call for a coup against Clinton over a BJ and turn around and 100% support a piss play serial porn star cheater who looks at undressing little girls at beauty pageants, you might be a hypocrite.
        
        bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
        
        Tony, the “blow job” stuff is a canard. Clinton committed perjury in a civil deposition while he was President. You can argue whether that reaches the “high crimes and misdemeanors” standard or not, I guess, but to dismiss it out of hand as potentially an impeachable offense is silly and partisan.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        It was arguably right to impeach for his lying to answer the question, but it was wrong for the question to have been asked in the first place.
        It’s total historical revisionism to pretend that this wasn’t a politically motivated lurid sex panic tantrum thrown by a bunch of fat Republican hypocrites who were all cheating on their wives or diddling little boys at the time.
        I’m just glad we’re obviously going to apply the same standards to Trump.
        
        bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
        
        “it was wrong for the question to have been asked in the first place.”
        No it wasn’t. He was being sued by an Arkansas state employee for sexual harassment he had allegedly done when he was governor of Arkansas. The question he committed perjury on related to trying to prove his habit of chasing subordinate skirt.
        Is it your position that an employee of any entity (government or private) should not be allowed to sue for damages when a superior in that organization calls them into a room and whips their dick out? Didn’t figure you for a supporter of the Bad Boys Club, but I get surprised every day……
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        I’m pretty liberal on workplace sex actually. Think of all the babies the world would lack if bosses really couldn’t ever fuck their secretaries.
        My main issue is hypocrisy.
        
        NotAnotherSkippy 6 years ago
        
        “My main issue is hypocrisy.”
        I think you’re quite good at it.
        
        loveconstitution1789 6 years ago
        
        Hypocrisy is all Tony knows.
        Say Democracy is the important then undermine it to get socialists in power.
        Say freedom is important then undermine it to curtail freedom.
        Say sex is nobody’s business then say Trump deserves to be impeached for sexual activity before he was president.
        
        Tony 6 years ago
        
        No, he deserves to be impeached for the treason.
Tony 6 years ago

Trump had stormy relationship with Foggy Bottom, foggy relationship with Stormy’s bottom.
1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
  
  That’s the kind of joke that gets people throwing stuff at you.
Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago

Wait, charging my electric vehicle isn’t free?
1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
  
  For what it’s worth, Tesla added it does not view its Supercharger stations as a “profit center” and that they will never be operated in that manner.
  FWIW, Tesla Corporation isn’t a profit center.
  BOOM! I am here all ze veek.
  1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
    
    How much does it cost? Is it comparable to gasoline?
  2. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
    
    I will say that up here that owning a Tesla still seems to be more a status symbol than anything. But here’s hoping.
2. TrickyVic (old school) 6 years ago
  
  The last person that complained about that woke up in a Tesla Roadster in a space suit.
  1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
    
    Mmm, space suit…
    1. bevis the lumberjack 6 years ago
      
      Whew. I expected Barbarella on the other side of that link. Bullet dodged.
      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.) 6 years ago
        
        What’s wrong with Barbarella?
        
        Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
        
        Commie boners are un-American.
  2. CE 6 years ago
    
    But if you bought a Tesla, you’re already woke.
  3. This Machine Chips Fascists 6 years ago
    
    Fortunato Hedge Funds Founder Missing!
    Bezos Celebrates Falcon Heavy Success
    With Cask Of Amontillado!
3. Juice 6 years ago
  
  No, just really cheap.
  1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
    
    How cheap is it? I’m looking at new (new to me) cars, and I was thinking of a partial electric.
    1. Agammamon 6 years ago
      
      Doooooooon’t.
      Complete waste of money. Unless you want to get one because you have money to burn and just want a ‘new tech’ toy.
      You’re not going to save money over the price premium for them.
      If you keep them for more than 5 years you’re going to pay a hefty chunk to have the battery pack replaced.
      Its going to be more sluggish than a comparable class and size car.
Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago

U.N. human rights investigators point the finger at Facebook for fueling violence against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar by allowing for the dissemination of hateful rhetoric
“In other news, the Myanmar government has taken legal action against Facebook for fueling hysteria about alleged violence against Rohingya Muslims by allowing for the dissemination of alarmist rhetoric.”
1. BestUsedCarSales 6 years ago
  
  If the US government doesn’t do anything, then someday it might be their atrocities being broadcast.
  1. Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
    
    It was only a matter of time before governments learned about intersectionality.
2. DiegoF 6 years ago
  
  Is there something to suggest that the Rohingya are not, in fact, getting by far the worst of the violence in their region?
  I feel bad for the Rohingya, because the people of Western countries have been exposed to so much “Islamophobia” wolf-crying and shameless Islamism-brownnosing that few seem to be in any mood to stick up for a Muslim population when they really are persecuted. And the government and Buddhist clerics really know how to play to that.
  Between this and the “Russia” wolf-crying, if Karad?i? was operating today he’d probably get volunteers flying in to help him run the camps.
  1. Telcontar the Wanderer 6 years ago
    
    I was just pointing out that Facebook presumably allows speech from both sides of the issue**, thus demonstrating their would-be persecutors’ inability to understand the concept of free speech forums.
    **I presume, but make no claim to know

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