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California Considers $1,000 Fine for Waiters Offering Unsolicited Plastic Straws

This sucks.

Darth Straw CupIlkin Guliyev/Dreamstime.comIan Calderon wants restaurateurs to think long and hard before giving you a straw.

Calderon, the Democratic majority leader in California's lower house, has introduced a bill to stop sit-down restaurants from offering customers straws with their beverages unless they specifically request one. Under Calderon's law, a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.

"We need to create awareness around the issue of one-time use plastic straws and its detrimental effects on our landfills, waterways, and oceans," Calderon explained in a press release.

This isn't just Calderon's crusade. The California cities of San Luis Obispo and Davis both passed straws-on-request laws last year, and Manhattan Beach maintains a prohibition on all disposable plastics. And up in Seattle, food service businesses won't be allowed to offer plastic straws or utensils as of July.

The Los Angeles Times has gotten behind the movement, endorsing straws-on-request policies in an editorial that also warned that "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth." Celebrity astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson (always up for a little chiding) and Entourage star Adrian Grenier have appeared in videos where an octopus slaps them in the face for using a plastic straw.

The actual number of straws being used is unclear. Calderon, along with news outlets writing about this issue—from CNN to the San Francisco Chronicle—unfailingly state that Americans use 500 million plastic straws a day, many of them ending up in waterways and oceans. The 500 million figure is often attributed to the National Park Service; it in turn got it from the recycling company Eco-Cycle.

Eco-Cycle is unable to provide any data to back up this number, telling Reason that it was relying on the research of one Milo Cress. Cress—whose Be Straw Free Campaign is hosted on Eco-Cycle's website—tells Reason that he arrived at the 500 million straws a day figure from phone surveys he conducted of straw manufacturers in 2011, when he was just 9 years old.

Cress, who is now 16, says that the National Restaurant Association has endorsed his estimates in private correspondence. This may well be true, but the only references to the 500 million figure on the association's website again points back to the work done by Cress.

More important than how many straws Americans use each day is how many wind up in waterways. We don't know that figure either. The closest we have is the number of straws collected by the California Costal Commission during its annual Coastal Cleanup Day: a total of 835,425 straws and stirrers since 1988, or about 4.1 percent of debris collected.

Squishy moderates on the straw issue have pushed paper straws, which come compostable at only eight times the price. Eco-Cycle skews a bit more radical, with their "Be Straw Free" campaign—sponsored in part by reusable straw makers—that urges the adoption of glass or steel straws. Because we all know how good steel smelting is for the environment.

In any case, criminalizing unsolicited straws seems like a rather heavy-handed approach to the problem, especially since we don't actually know how big a problem it is. But don't take my word for that. Ask Milo Cress.

"If people are forced not to use straws, then they won't necessarily see that it's for the environment," he tells Reason. "They'll just think it's just another inconvenience imposed on them by government."

Update: Reason spoke with Voleck Taing, a senior assistant to Assemblyman Calderon, who said they intend to amend the bill to remove the fines.

Photo Credit: Ilkin Guliyev/Dreamstime.com

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  • Jordan||

    It's about time somebody started soaking all those fatcat waiters. You know what we really need? Waiter licensing. 1,000 hours minimum training required.

  • My Dog Bites Better Than Yours||

    Were you wating tables?

  • R. K. Phillips||

    Kneeling under the table would be my guess.

  • Codswallop||

    Find another scam hillary; this one is rotten, just like you and your pay to play charity.

  • MJBinAL||

    Glad to see those Democrats looking out for the "littlt guy" as usual.

  • Leader Desslok||

    Of coarse Democrats look out of the little guy, they look out for them so they can crush them every chance they get.

  • Ranger Rick||

    Jordan, you know it and thise waiters nerd to be fingerprinted and background checks because it's for the children.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Actually, my response to this is to propose a law where anyone who votes for a progressive idiot like Calderon is summarily executed. You know, to promote responsible voting.

  • Lucusloc||

    Yeah, sounds good. You should also stipulate what the hours be spent on. Something like "499 hours on food waste avoidance, 499 hours on environmental impacts of clean dishes, 2 hours (homework) on sanitation and safe food practices".

  • BambiB||

    At first I thought this was a joke. Six months in jail for offering someone a straw?
    Then I noticed it was Kalifornia and I recalled that the penalty for intentionally infecting someone with AIDS is a misdemeanor in Kalifornia with a maximum six month penalty.

    Hmm.

    Offer someone a straw? Infect them with a deadly disease? That's pretty much the same thing, isn't it? /sarcasm

  • Don't look at me.||

    I had to look at the top of the page to make sure I wasn't redirected to the Onion.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    So you're suddenly claiming that banning something based on the research of a 9-year-old is ridiculous? Armed agents of the government have been dispatched for less.

  • ||

    So you're suddenly claiming that banning something based on the research of a 9-year-old is ridiculous?

    Not even a very bright 9-yr.-old if you banned straws in my house, within 24 hrs. everyone under the age of 15 would be drinking beverages through rope licorice and pixie sticks.

  • VinniUSMC||

    I like this idea. Please stop providing straws, and instead start providing licorice or pixie sticks.

    Thanks,

    Signed 80s/90s kids.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Especially since the straws will make Iron Eyes Cody cry.

  • Finrod||

    A fake Indian promoting fake environmentalism.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    The best kind!

  • Dooley Stetson||

    Leave Elizabeth Warren out of this!

  • DarrenM||

    From reading the article, they are not banning straws (yet); just requiring the customer to request a straw before they are given one. Kind of like the affirmative consent law. And it's only plastic straws. You are free to give paper (or any other material) straws to customers.

  • darkwingdave||

    Seattle is banning plastic straws this summer. Between mandatory $15 minimum wage, sick leave, soda tax - Seattle is a great place to run a business!

  • JFred||

    The politicians and eco-terrorists in and around Seattle need to be skewered on their space needle.

  • Paper Wasp||

    ...run it right out of town!

  • John B. Egan||

    Typical RW kneejerk replies here.. You are correct. Just as we have to ask for a glass of water at restaurants during droughts, our State (and others) are trying to restrict plastic waste by making it a request item. This is just a continuation of our plastic bag bans and plastic microbead bans, which end up in our oceans. In fact, 80% off cheap plastic items end up in our oceans and are a major problem to fish life.

    And, if you are a restaurant that wishes to supply a straw for your customers, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from providing paper straws like we used when i was kid. Or if you're upscale, then supply the reed straws like we used as a kid in Spain.. People sweat the small stuff on this site, and ignore the purpose for the regulation.. In fact, the author really neglected to explain why plastic is a problem.

  • Stiles Bitchly||

    "In fact, 80% off cheap plastic items end up in our oceans and are a major problem to fish life."

    Making absolutely ridiculous claims like this is the chief reason most THINKING people reject your doomsday-the sky-is-falling-the-ice-caps-are-melting-we are ruining the planet hand wringing. Use your head. Use common sense. Don't just parrot everything you hear.

    Get some perspective. Understand that we are doing a much better job of cleaning up after ourselves than we did 10, 20, 30, 40, 100 years ago. We need to keep improving. But ridiculous laws such as this and most laws proposed by so-called Progressives are like pissing in the ocean: It might make you feel better, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

  • Longtobefree||

    According to left wing Darwinists, the damn fish will evolve to thrive on the plastic.

  • Voice_of_Reason||

    And John B. Egan is a typical kneejerk communard who wants to regulate every aspect of life so he can boast about how virtuous he is.

    The sooner california falls into the ocean the better life will be for everyone else in America.

  • Voice_of_Reason||

    And John B. Egan is a typical kneejerk communard who wants to regulate every aspect of life so he can boast about how virtuous he is.

    The sooner california falls into the ocean the better life will be for everyone else in America.

  • Voice_of_Reason||

    And John B. Egan is a typical kneejerk communard who wants to regulate every aspect of life so he can boast about how virtuous he is.

    The sooner california falls into the ocean the better life will be for everyone else in America.

  • Ed Merc||

    Back to snorting your Meth with dolla bills, huh Johnny Boy? You're such a good little LW fascist.

  • Agammamon||

    Typical LW kneejerk reply - ignore the disproportionate punishment and the fact that all the things you've mentioned are banned under threat of death.

    'Its for the children!'

  • Agammamon||

    If you guys can't put your shit in the trash can while us podunk rednecks and wetbacks can . . . that's not painting a good picture of our 'coastal elite'.

  • Fuck you, Shikha (Nunya)||

    It's such a knee jerk reaction that the person that submitted the bill has recanted on their entirely reasonable fine. Oh, wait. It was a massive fine that would be levied against those that couldn't possibly afford it. Tell us more about your virtues based on fake statistics.

  • Fuck you, Shikha (Nunya)||

    Oh, and please ignore the benefits of drinking from straws that are also sanitary. But if the benefit is helping to save teeth from sugary drinks I'm sure you have some more divestment regulation you would like to enforce for the better of us all.

    Fuck off, asshole.

  • Will246||

    Notice the article said he backed off on the fines but it didn't say anything about the jail time. Can a prison guard be sent to jail for offering the prisoner a plastic straw? Oh, the irony. . . .

  • JFred||

    The perspective of your claim: "In fact, 80% off cheap plastic items end up in our oceans and are a major problem to fish life." invalidates your whole post.

    I do not know what kind of reeds you used for straws in Spain. Were they closely relate to Cannabis?

  • PECETE||

    All good points. However, waiters don't buy the supplies but are the ones being threatened with fines and jail. Calderon is either brain dead or a grandstander looking for free press. I'm of the opinion he is both. We are paying his salary and he is just wasting our time and upsetting and scaring people.

  • Loss of Reason||

    Hey twit or do you prefer dingus?

    So do waiters get fined during a drought glass of water? Wait, your CA HOA makes you still water your lawn or fines you?

    The way to stop straw use is to give those richie rich waiters a 1000 dollar fine and 6 months in jail. You don't see anything wrong with that moonbeam? I'm glad you speak for all restaurants saying they can provide paper straws. I mean they are only what 8 times more expensive so I'm sure you are paying for the difference.

    Geez, maybe straws should be banned in CA. They can't be using them right if their brains are so O2 starved.

  • Will246||

    Does anyone think anything thru anymore? This dimwit politician wants to replace plastic straws, which are made from oil, with paper straws, which are made from trees. So apparently this left wing turd wants to further decimate the Amazon rain forest and increase our carbon footprint since trees reduce carbon dioxide and hedge against "global warming." These turds can't even stay in alignment with their own values.

  • ||

    "Just as we have to ask for a glass of water at restaurants during droughts, our State (and others) are trying to restrict plastic waste by making it a request item."

    This is a fantastic example of this sort of rulemaking happening without regard to the actual importance or consequences of the thing being regulated. Average per capita water use in the US is between 80 and 100 gallons a day, mostly from showers and toilet flushes. And urban water use (meaning household water use, commercial water use, etc) is only 20% of the non-environmental water use in California--agriculture is the other 80%. So an undrunk 8 oz glass of water at a restaurant represents 1/1600 of a typical person's daily water use, with people's daily use representing less than 20% of the state's water use.

    In other words, not giving everyone a glass of water at a restaurant makes everyone feel like they're solving the problem but has an immeasurably tiny effect on that actual problem (and might make it worse if it gives people the sensation of helping and thus leads them to spend an extra couple of seconds in the shower).

  • cheeflo||

    Prosecution, jail time, and a $1000 fine for giving a straw to a customer?

    Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

    Meanwhile, actual lawbreaking continues apace and is rewarded in some places.

    Incidentally, most of the plastic debris in the oceans -- more than 90% -- comes from a handful of rivers in Asia and Africa. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci.....ivers.html

  • Tionico||

    such is the mental acuity of at least half of California's elected "representatives".

  • Leader Desslok||

    These days its getting harder and harder to tell when you are reading the Onion or not.

  • p3orion||

    It's a variation on Poe's law, which refers to "an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views."

    To wit: there is no idea so anti-business, counter-productive, and generally asinine that a Democrat somewhere will not eventually propose it. A corollary to that is that SJW millennials will pick up on the idea, and insist that any opposition to it is racist.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It's okay, guys, because California Democrats are for a minimum wage.

  • CE||

    Except for waiters. I'm seeing a pattern here....

  • Johnniebgoode||

    Please safe me miceself, Mr. Gubmint.

  • Libertymike||

    Why would any sane person want to live in California? What a cesspool.

  • Zeb||

    It's great in the parts where there aren't any people.

  • thetmaxx||

    Born here. They pay too much. It's hard to take a 50% pay cut to leave.

  • blondrealist||

    I am reminded of a vacation trip to the Santa Barbara area years ago. We went over to Ojai for a day, had brunch at a casual spot, and chatted it up with the friendly waitress - whoops - "server". She asked where we were from (Missouri originally, but living and working in Florida at the time), and she gushed about living in Ojai her whole life and not being able to imagine living any place else.

    That's when I realized that the only likely reason she could afford to live in that town is because she was born there - certainly not from waiting tables at a casual dining restaurant. I know there are good paying jobs in many parts of California, but not all of them pay enough for newcomers, that is if the newcomers have any ideas about buying a house. I looked at real estate listings in Ojai and crappy looking little houses cost several hundred thousand dollars.

    As I'm sure you know, Santa Barbara real estate prices are even more insane.

  • Libertymike||

    Notwithstanding my post above, my wife and I were married in Santa Barbara on July 4, 2000. It was just the missus and me and the lady minister.

  • John B. Egan||

    My first wife was a waitress, as were both of my daughters... Tips aren't great at smaller diners, but I watched a girl count out her tips at out local diner 'Humpty's Cafe' (ignore the name, the food and staff are great.) .. She had to have picked up $200 on her 6 hour shift... Do that 5 days a week and couple it with your regular salary, and life isn't too bad.. My daughters and ex can attest to that.

  • blondrealist||

    My wife was a waitress when we started dating and continued to be one for the first few years of our marriage. You're right, the money can be okay. My point is that a husband and wife grossing a combined $100,000 - $125,000 will find it difficult to buy a $750,000 starter home in Santa Barbara (or Ojai, or other similar places in California).

  • Tionico||

    Yeah.. six years ago I was visiting froends/former residents, we saw a house almost exactly like the two bit dingbat balloon constuction slab on grade stucco outside aluminium single pane windows tract house I lived in when I was a kid in Orange County..... and for which we paid about $12,000 brand new. I asked if Friend knew the asking of the one for sale. He said he did not, but he DID know the one over the back fence, a "flipped" floorplan identical to the one in question, actually SOLD for $650,000 two months ago. I about fell over.....

  • Agammamon||

    In 2006ish, a friend of mine had a 1300 square foot house on a .15 acre lot in El Cajon - and it cost something like 350 grand.

    Out where I live, 250 grand gets you 2600 sqft and 5 acres.

  • ||

    I grew up in Goleta (right next to Santa Barbara), which saw a huge explosion in property values starting I think in the late 80's early 90's (around when my family moved there). I saw an estimate at one point that 75% of Goleta's residents wouldn't be able to afford to buy their homes on the basis of their salaries. Some of it is the obvious desirability of the area, some of it is the very restrictive rules on development in the area (which protects undeveloped areas but also restricts high-density housing) and some of it is prop 13 making it very expensive from a property tax perspective to move, which limits the size of the market.

    The last I heard, the typical cheap rent was about $900/room (not for a 1-bedroom apartment, for a room in a 3 or 4 bedroom apartment) which is about 50% higher than I was paying in New York City for a pretty nice place.

  • WMurphy||

    Compare the cost of living. My brother-in-law still lives in Commiefornia and makes nearly what I do. I've got a 1400 sq ft. house on 1/3 acre (small for here), cars, and money left over. He shares a tiny apartment has an old pos car that's falling apart and is constantly broke.
    That 50% pay cut goes 3 times as far in other states where sanity exists.

  • Voice_of_Reason||

    Thetmaxx, the high cost of living in Commiefornia is why your state has the highest rate of poverty in America according to the Supplemental Measure of Poverty.

    And that's why lots and lots of businesses are leaving for lower cost states. A science and engineering company I worked for essentially closed down a lot of their CA operations and fired a good chunk of their CA engineers, and hired in other states.

  • Loss of Reason||

    I have a friend who was offer around $150K to work at the alphabet in CA. In chose the offer in Texas for $110K instead.

    His reasons - he could spend 4k for a tiny house/shack for his wife and 2 kids or move to Texas (Houston area) and get a 3000 sq ft home for half that. Plus, no state tax and reasonable property taxes.

  • cheeflo||

    But the cost of living is so high, as well. A 50% pay cut may not reduce your standard of living if you move to a state where people are not taxed for breathing and the cost of living is reasonable.

    Given time, your 50% pay cut will be from state and local taxes, as well as penalties for ordinary human acttivity.

  • Rebel Scum||

    California Considers $1,000 Fine for Waiters Offering Unsolicited Plastic Straws,

    Christ, what a shithole.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Man, that's a disgusting use for straws! There'd have to be diarrhea.

  • Merv||

    That both doesn't make sense as a response and also isn't funny. Stop trying so hard.

  • Get To Da Chippah||

    All these anti-straw laws and ordinances really suck.

  • Ron||

    Nothing better than looking at a glass smeared all over with lipstick

  • ||

    I'm thinking they need to start their anti-straw campaign at one of the most ubiquitous straw dispensaries around; hospitals.

    We can't have cancer patients, poisoning mother gaia with straws and their chemo drugs, terminal war widows mucking up the environment with straws and then checking out, or post-op cesarean women using a new straw for every drink they may imbibe during their stay. Get the straws away from those motherfuckers and make them sit up for that shit or GTFO.

  • SuperShann||

    YES!!!! It's time those lazy bastards stop sucking up unnecessary help.

  • Paper Wasp||

    That's what I was thinking as I read this: "Oh, so are you also going to fine them for serving you a glass that's got lip prints around the rim?"

  • Longtobefree||

    This whole thing sucks.
    We can no longer wait for California to secede.
    What is the process for ejecting a state from the union?

  • BYODB||


    What is the process for ejecting a state from the union?

    Civil War.

  • Longtobefree||

    Then "to the barricades!"

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Not CA, just it's residents. Eject them, into the ocean. Keep the real estate.

  • Longtobefree||

    No.
    Whatever has rotted their brains might be environmental and reinfect those who moved in to snap up the cheap real estate.
    Better to fence it all off as a "museum of what happens when - - "

  • p3orion||

    That's why the price for the border wall keeps going up: it's going to have to make a sharp right after Arizona and continue north along the Nevada state line.

  • jelabarre||

    Do you necessarily have to eliminate the entire state? You may only need to carve off the stupid bits, and it's easier to shove smaller pieces into the Pacific. Just like NY State would be so much better off without NYC.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Cress—whose Be Straw Free Campaign is hosted on Eco-Cycle's website—tells Reason that he arrived at the 500 million straws a day figure from phone surveys he conducted of straw manufacturers in 2011, when he was just 9 years old.

    A strawman argument!

  • Gretz||

    So, when's a responsible journalist (I know, an oxymoron) going to find out how many straws are actually used in a country with 340 million people in it?

    Someone can surely make a better SWAG at this than an 9 year old, even without a paper from Oberlin.

  • RoyMo||

    6 months in jail for offering a straw. Now that is ripping the mask off.

  • Ron||

    meanwhile thieves can steal up to $800.00 worth of merchandise and all they get is a ticket, no jail time anymore. not very balanced or even logical in their punishments.

  • Kenrm||

    And CA has a overcrowded prison system now? Guess they'll have to release the rapists and murders to make room for the waiters.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000

    If you're going to pass a stupid law then you need a ridiculous punishment for breaking it. Do you even politics, bro?

  • CE||

    So if it's a party of four you get 2 years?

  • Don't look at me.||

    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

  • Ron||

    three strikes and your out for life

  • Ron||

    lets try again

    Three strikes and jail for life

  • Curt||

    "Update: Reason spoke with Voleck Taing, a senior assistant to Assemblyman Calderon, who said they intend to amend the bill to remove the fines."

    Well that's certainly good news. I'll sleep a lot better knowing that they aren't going to fine those waiters... they're just going to throw them in jail for six months.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Can a single one of these idiots explain in small words why this is any of the government's goddamned business?

  • Rhywun||

    Government is the straw offerings we make to Gaia together.

  • Longtobefree||

    Because otherwise they would have to figure out how to deal with a small but potentially worrisome budget shortfall.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    The Los Angeles Times has gotten behind the movement, endorsing straws-on-request policies in an editorial that also warned that "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth."

    Maybe they should speak with a dentist. Mine always tells me to use a straw if I'm going to be so hell-bent on drinking fruit juice.

  • Rhywun||

    "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth."

    I'm honestly not sure if that quote is an earnest concern or satire.

  • lap83||

    I've heard that LA is a very superficial city. Maybe they're just catering to their readers' most pressing concerns

  • Rhywun||

    That was my thought too. Anywhere else it would probably be obvious satire.

  • BYODB||

    Poe's Law strikes again.

  • Ziggy9||

    San Fran will go bananas to hear this

  • Longtobefree||

    So you are anti-LBGTQRSTUV?

  • silver.||

    We decided 12 minutes ago that we're going all the way to Z, you [ad hominem]. I can't believe what a homophonehomophobe you are.

  • Dilbert Rothstein||

    If repetitive sucking causes wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth how long til California outlaws oral?

  • Finrod||

    Well, they already tried to force the porn industry to use condoms, which just caused it to mostly move to Las Vegas.

  • p3orion||

    "The Los Angeles Times has gotten behind the movement, endorsing straws-on-request policies in an editorial that also warned that "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth."

    Well, they'll sure as hell never editorialize that way in San Francisco.

  • Alcibiades||

    I blame the parents, I really do, none of this sinister shit tolerated here.

  • buddhastalin||

    This bill could be heard in committee on February 17. Somebody show up and pelt him with straws.

  • ||

    Hell, at $1000 and 6 mos. the relative risk of keeping naked people around for patrons to drink their drinks off of seems relatively minor.

    I'm not taking shots from a hooker's cleavage, I'm just having a couple of $75 cocktails and she's just a drink accessory like a little umbrella or an olive on a toothpick.

  • ||

    urges the adoption of glass or steel straws

    Also, somebody should propose and ordinance enshrining the rights of Californians to carry glass or steel straws as they see fit. With specific protection for 26.5" steel straws with an 5-7mm bore diameter opening and a 1:12 right hand twist if possible.

  • Longtobefree||

    Good idea. Perhaps a bit of wood to protect the finish, improve carrying ease, and kind of dress it up a bit?

  • MJBinAL||

    This is great stuff! Along with the antics of the Democrats in Washington, Democrats from coast to coast can be tarred with this! "A vote for Democrat XXVVYY, is a vote to eliminate straws". Should play well in the mid-west.

  • lap83||

    Sounds like Californians have this whole life thing pretty much all figured out and they're now just fine-tuning. I think the rest of us could learn a lot from them (preferably from a safe distance away)

  • CE||

    Time to bring back tar and feathers? Or maybe split California into six pieces?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Split Californians into six pieces each? Yes please!

  • kevrob||

    You realize 5 additional mini-golden states would mean 10 more US Senators.

    Are you willing to risk that?

  • esteve7||

    Leftists are petty Tyrants. You have no right to tell me I can't give out a fucking straw to my customers. We need to stop arguing efficiency and argue morally --- their entire belief system is evil. Do what I say or I will send men with guns to force you to.

    I laugh my ass of whenever anyone on the left says 'pro choice'. No, it's pro-abortion, because pretty much everything else they've made the choice for you and will use guns to do it.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Petty tyrants that always end up with a very large body count if they achieve unchecked power.

  • Rhywun||

    Celebrity astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson (always up for a little chiding) and Entourage star Adrian Grenier have appeared in videos where an octopus slaps them in the face for using a plastic straw.

    I knew the former was an empty suit and I suspected the same of the latter. It's always rewarding to have one's suspicions confirmed.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Waiters should sue Commifornia for a 1st Amendment violation if this law passes.

    I have the constitutionally protected right to offer a straw and ask for a straw from someone else.

    Just sue Taxifornia until they have no more money left.

  • ||

    Just sue Taxifornia until they have no more money left.

    Maybe you haven't spoken with anyone sympathetic to Taxifornia. If you bring up the debt, they're usually the first to tell you that it's nothing like personal debt because the US can just print more money. Like, after hearing that, you'd just accept a $100 bill from them at face value.

  • Fuck You - Cut Spending||

    What a stupid idea for a law.

    Any sane Californian would just propose a 10-cent tax on plastic straws.

  • Captain Brenner||

    Your idea of sanity . . . is still absurd, nonsensical, completely idiotic.

  • Red Tony||

    He said "sane Californian". That's pretty much a contradiction in terms, but he's pointing out that the more sane members of that group would propose something stupid but not as stupid.

  • SukieTawdry||

    Every day, it seems, the state of California reaches a new level of absurdity.

  • EdnKaiser||

    ... Insane...Your state is a JOKE......
    You freely allow foreigners to invade....threaten and kill your taxpaying citizens..

    Yet !!!!
    You want to "Under Calderon's law, a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000."

  • BYODB||

    It would be a lot simpler to just make straws illegal. I mean, it's stupid in either scenario but no restaurant is going to carry straws, period, if the punishment was this harsh for a simple accident.

  • Caine||

    We're obviously not going to break Cali from its nanny state culture. But wouldn't it make more sense to simply require the businesses to switch to paper straws? As one of the "little people" I would assume Mr. Calderon is aware that they exist and are 100% biodegradable. If his big political ambitions are to rid us of the scourge of plastic straws, paper straws would seem to be an obvious solution. As opposed to going after the people making $2.50 an hour, plus tips?

  • Merv||

    Try reading the article.

  • Guy Gadbois||

    Too difficult.

  • Caine||

    Read the article. Maybe you should read my comment. I was specifically making reference to Mr. Calderon with the paper straw comment. Unless you have inside knowledge that the "Squishy moderates on the straw issue have pushed paper straws" have specifically discussed it with Calderon. There was no indication that the two groups have discussed anything. Perhaps you and Merv are part of the Squishy moderates. Have you spoken to Calderon? If so, I stand corrected.

  • pcbakeraz||

    Well soon there will be the "straw cartels". Perhaps a ballot initiative for "medical straw use".

  • Herman48||

    When I was a kid, straws were made of... straw and were biodegradable. We grow and harvest more cereals today than we did 70 years ago. Why not use the stems (straw) instead of plastic?

  • gormadoc||

    It's more expensive. Plastic straws also don't change the taste of the drink.

  • Moses Malone||

    Needs a more draconian sentence if you want to get the message across. Lets say there's 4 people at a table: For the first offense, first straw, there would be a 25 year prison sentence, and a $50,000 fine. It goes up exponentially from there. If all 4 people get straws, you get 4 consecutive life sentences with a chance at parole only after 325 years, plus you have to pay a $500,000 fine in addition to the restaurant paying a $1 million fine.

  • VinniUSMC||

    If SLO and Davis did it, it's only a matter of time before it's California state law.

  • Herman48||

    Maricornia is a cesspool, part of the Turd World.

  • MobettaJenkum||

    This makes perfect sense. How many of the major straw-manufacturers are owned by (((Jews)))???... NONE???.. Correct!...
    ...Still, it must be a hard pill to swallow for a 1950's style burger-joint with live DJ and cars inside, where people go BECAUSE the waitresses are dressed like 1950's servers and allowed to act rude (often throwing straws at you while chewing bubble-gum and asking what you want to order)....

  • VeeKay||

    Three questions.
    First. Who is going to pay for all the eye injuries from the umbrellas in their drinks?
    Second. Who is going to pay for the mixed up drinks regular and diet without the straws to "mark" them?
    Three. Where in the world do politicians get the idea they can actually do another job? Apparently they do not have enough intelligence to be a waiter.

  • MobettaJenkum||

    "Freeze!!!!... I'm undercover STRAW police!!! You are arrested for a FELONY"...
    -Governor Jerry Brown fantasy when he was a young Marxist

  • MobettaJenkum||

    These same politicians also have no problem dissolving the sovereign boundaries of their State and National Constitutions, and redistributing your tax-money to central-American citizens who do not exist on paper anywhere yet vote in TWO different nations' elections. It is time for pitchforks and rope.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Calderon, the Democratic majority leader in California's lower house, has introduced a bill to stop sit-down restaurants from offering customers straws with their beverages unless they specifically request one. Under Calderon's law, a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.

    So Calderon, not super-concerned about "cruel and unusual punishment".

  • Swampfox||

    Looks like we have found a new motto for California: "Repetitive Sucking".

  • Captain Brenner||

    California resolution for the new year should be to "suck less"

  • lfb001||

    Would this include hospital aids, I have never been ask if I want a straw when the meal is deliveryed. But there always one on the tray.

  • Moses Malone||

    What if the person is deaf and blind in a hospital, does that mean the family has to sign a consent form to approve the use of a straw so the patient isn't fined and jailed? What if he has no family? It would be in the hospitals best interest to kick that patient out so they don't get sued.

  • JB Say||

    The Los Angeles Times knows all about "repetitive sucking". And I'm not talking about blowjobs here.

  • Dilbert Rothstein||

    This is why I am going to start asking for 3 or 4 straws when I am in California and use them all at the same time in the same drink. And if the restaurant has a snobbish atmosphere I'll use 5 or 6 straws all at once.

  • Sevo||

    "California Considers $1,000 Fine for Waiters Offering Unsolicited Plastic Straws"

    in related news, Onion closes its doors; cannot compete with the CA government.

  • JungleCogs||

    News Flash: California to Shift Funds for Opioid Prevention to Plastic Straw Use Prosecution.

  • Ruckweiler||

    Welcome to the People's Republic of California. This sort of silliness is beyond parody.

  • LibwithIQ||

    All IHops should declare themselves sanctuary restaurants where straw use can't be regulated by the state.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    My house is a 'sanctuary house' where no laws apply. My car is a 'sanctuary car', and no traffic laws, or anything to do with road rage, vehicular homocide, DUI, etc. apply. I am also a 'sanctuary person' and no laws apply to me individually. Any dissent from the above is racism and literally Hitler.

  • Chief03275||

    Racist? "Fast-food restaurants are more commonly located in black and low-income neighborhoods. This link may suggest environmental exposure to fast food as a contributor to the high prevalence of obesity in black and low-income populations." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15450633) Seems reasonable to assume minority owned restaurants. Therefore, unfairly impacting minority owned businesses.

  • Chief03275||

    Racist? "Fast-food restaurants are more commonly located in black and low-income neighborhoods. This link may suggest environmental exposure to fast food as a contributor to the high prevalence of obesity in black and low-income populations." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15450633) Seems reasonable to assume minority owned restaurants. Therefore, unfairly impacting minority owned businesses.

  • zombietimeshare||

    "a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000."

    That's nothing. If you request a straw that could get you 2 years in jail and a 100,000 fine. Requesting real meat instead of tofu gets you life at hard labor.

  • LibwithIQ||

    So California is going to fine and jail waiters for a straw but let an illegal alien gun down an innocent woman and get off scot free? There's some intelligent government in action.

  • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)||

    What will Calderon do about the increased spread of disease from servers touching the edges of glasses with their pitchers, which straws guard against?

  • PECETE||

    Calderon is unhinged.

    Do you know how many serious crimes are at the same level of what he proposes, such as: petty theft, simple assault, battery, sale of drug paraphernalia to a minor, intent to distribute marijuana, indecent exposure, hit and run, prostitution, DUI 1st offense, driving with open container, computer hacking and many, many other misdemeanors.

    I used to be a traffic engineer for a major CA city. Every year I had to review fine amounts for various driving offenses, along with our City Attorney and make recommendations to the State. I can't tell you how many Calderon-type politicians with whom I fought who wanted to push their social agendas by invoking absurd fine amounts for non-hazardous behaviors.

  • THE PARACLETE OF CABORCA||

    Lets review:

    Cal Governor Brown signs "Sanctuary State" legislation
    Cal AG Becerra threatening prosecute companies that follow US Immigration laws
    Cal Assemblyman Caldero introduces criminal prosecution for offering plastic straws
    Cal judge orders DMV to register illegal aliens to vote

    California has descended into a new dimension...a dimension not only of illogic and lawlessness but of
    corruption and treason...This will not end well.

  • SantaFeSteve||

    It is nothing new that they are wacko in California. Fortunately nature will soon rid us of that monstrosity.

    Until then, they may find that they kill some people with swallow issues by withholding straws and hopefully they will be sued out of existence. It is hard to find a more disgusting blot on humanity than California.

  • thetmaxx||

    North korea?

  • Hugh Janus||

    California, where you can be an illegal alien, murder,rape,and defile all you want with no worries but don't even think about denying their climate change & God help you if you drink from a straw.. Wow! $1k and prison..Laughing and shaking my head..You people are scary stupid to everyone else and should be ashamed of yourselves...Seek help for Leftist ideology.

  • tj1000||

    Another reason people are leaving the state. If you are illegal you are a hero. If you are just a citizen you are a moron.

  • Scott999||

    Why do people even wonder why California is the laughing stock of the world. This is totally insane and a prime example of how liberal government wants to intrude on every little thing in everyone's life.

  • thetmaxx||

    The evening news California is what most americans think of when they think california.... As for the laughing stock of the world, Florida Man clearly has that title...

  • Elliot_Foley||

    This is blatant discrimination against white servers. This law will have a disparate impact upon whites because the law will affect them as a racial group the worst. It won't be black servers who are getting arrested, it will be mostly white servers.

  • Guy Gadbois||

    You cannot know how little I care.....

  • Guy Gadbois||

    I believe Maduro did this in Venezuela, look how that has turned out.

  • tj1000||

    Isn't liberalism and progressiveness great. This would be the first guy to call Trump a fascist. California is the dark side of the moon. Moonbeam Governor.

  • thetmaxx||

    As California goes, so goes the nation... This will be a trend across the land of the (cough) free. (cough, cough)

  • tj1000||

    Goes along with having to bring your own bags to the grocery store or buy theirs.

  • unga bungabunga||

    So, this Calderon clown seriously thinks this is what the voters have sent him to Sacramento do to with his time? Maybe so. There are no other pressing matters in California at the moment? Maybe not.

    To paraphrase Obi Wan Kenobi: Who is more foolish: the fool or, those who vote him into office?

  • John in GA||

    "Under Calderon's law, a waiter who serves a drink with an unrequested straw in it would face up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000."

    In leftist regimes like California, penalties like this are not proportionate to the crime committed; what you're being punished for is defying the State, and that is a serious offense indeed.

  • Azathoth!!||

    The 'research' of a nine-year-old.

    A nine year old.

  • Longtobefree||

    But he went to a public school, so - - - -

  • Paulpemb||

    Okay, there are around 300 million people in the United States. So everyone in the whole country is using 1.6 straws every day?

  • gormadoc||

    We also make sure to throw each one in some body of water, too.

  • I'mamo||

    "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth." That is the funniest DUMB/FALSE thing I've ever heard and I know from experience!

  • TC1||

    In other news, Oregon makes it $2,000.00

  • HarryContrary||

    "$1000? Bah....that's just crumbs." -- Nancy Pelosi

  • DoctorJ||

    And all registered California voters should be fined $10,000 for electing such morons to public office...

  • cc2||

    6 months in jail for giving out a straw? How about a $50 fine? Even that would be wildly excessive. These people have lost their minds. And straws hurt what exactly in the environment? I guess we are sinners against Gaia for even existing.

  • Spunkstein||

    Aren't the mini-tyrants in California adorable? Just can't wait to control your lives. Don't worry, they know what is best for everyone.

  • OmarMung||

    thinking like a progressive warrior, you would sue CA under ADA as there are people with disabilities that require (the reasonable accommodation of) a straw to drink from a glass

  • Longtobefree||

    There can be a new state department to receive, review, and deny applications from the disabled to be exempt from the 'straw law', based on physician certified disability. It can be funded by a reasonable $10.00 tax per straw manufactured.

  • kevrob||

    Will cocaine addicts be exempted?

  • jennageorges||

    This is perfect! Become a sanctuary state, invite every illegal alien to come and live illegally. Let Mexican criminals go before they are deported, but by God arrest that waiter for offering a plastic straw! I do believe California is at war with it's own citizens. Have fun in that cesspool.

  • p3orion||

    What if the waiter who offers a plastic straw is an illegal alien? They let one off after shooting a woman, but I wonder if "I'm Manuel and I'll be your server today" would be so lucky?

  • Kenrm||

    So every man, woman, it, confused thing, and child uses 1.5 straws each day? Yes, there are 327 million people in the USA. I use a straw out 2-3 times month as do many others. 99% of all infants nurse or use a sippy cup. So somebody has to be using 5-10 straws a day. Wow!!!!

  • p3orion||

    No, SURELY a nine-year-old will have done his research correctly!

  • Mike Britt||

    Only in a corrupt, ultra liberal, progressive out house of a state can you fine someone for a legal item and at the same time allow millions of ILLEGAL immigrants to suck the budgets of the state to near bankruptcy. Keep raising property taxes and over valuing property, raising state income taxes and continuing with your sanctuary state BS and all that will be left of CA will be the Hollywood crazies, state workers, ILLEGALS and crazed loons. How far the state has fallen. What a pity. It will take an awful lot of $1000 fines to pay for the mess yhe CA government has gotten itslf in to

  • Big Ed's Landing||

    This is typical of the nonsense that the California legislature busies itself with. There are many thousands of school children getting an inadequate education, we have an opioid crisis underway, crime is rampant, there are tens of thousands of homeless people wandering around the state, and the infrastructure is a mess. In the face of all this, they take time to threaten waiters with fines for offering straws. They don't have the guts or common sense to face up to the many real issues facing California, so they make themselves look busy with stuff like this. What a bunch of nincompoops!

  • Cloudbuster||

    They'll just think it's just another inconvenience imposed on them by government

    Imagine people coming to that conclusion!

  • JeoTen||

    Face palm ... yet another breathtakingly poor attempt at regulation from the nanny state and Democrats believing they can somehow fix a problem. CA is billions in debt and they are focused on straws. If people feel guilty about straws, they won't ask for them or will demand businesses stop providing them. #stopthedrama #stopidioticregulation

  • Big Ed's Landing||

    "And up in Seattle, food service businesses won't be allowed to offer plastic straws or utensils as of July." It's a good thing that Seattle's airport, SEATAC, isn't in the city limits, or people would be reduced to eating with their fingers once they get past the security checkpoints. The TSA won't allow metal utensils, and if the city won't allow plastic utensils, then it's fingers, folks!

  • Longtobefree||

    Given the obesity epidemic, it will be a simple ban on food and water. No food, no utensils needed. No water, no plastic bottles or cups. Simple, see?

  • jerbigge||

    Another proof of "too much government".

  • Mkasnick||

    If anyone in living in California still has a brain and a smidgeon of common sense, you may want to move.

  • Ziggy9||

    Rather than worrying about excess straw in the world look at disposable diapers, the landfills are full of them. Put a deposit on them to return them to the manufacture for recycling.

  • John B. Egan||

    Different nations have different 'odd laws'... Such as Singapore's absolute ban on chewing gum, accompanied by large fines... Singapore felt the cost of cleaning gum off the streets was a waste of resources.. Thankfully, so far, there have been no deaths attributable to chewing gum withdrawal!

    The British and many Euro Countries are on the forefront of waste plastic in our oceans... Naturally! They abut oceans. There are many videos explaining the masses of plastic in our oceans and littering pristine beaches, and deaths of sea life, such as the recent case of the whale that ingested so many plastic bags that it died... In fact, even when plastic degrades to the point of no longer being visible, it is still in microscopic suspension, and lodges in the gills and flesh of sealife.. Which we consume.

    Although we live in a generation that seems to not care about our environment.. thanks to Trump and the new GOP, many states are still doing the best they can to make our nation's lives better. In fact, this 'Straw Law', though laghable on its face, is really just a continuation of the West Coast plastic bag and plastic micro-bead bans. Can anyone really be against making their lives better, when in actuality, there are very simple replacements for plastic straws...like the old paper straws we used as a kid? Really?

  • nomoliberals||

    Enough of your nanny state nonsense.

  • Sevo||

    "Although we live in a generation that seems to not care about our environment.. thanks to Trump and the new GOP, many states are still doing the best they can to make our nation's lives better."

    Better sarc than commie-kid's efforts.

  • p3orion||

    Yeah, let me see you make a "crazy straw" out of paper, smart guy!

  • cherylAnne||

    They make paper straws if people must suckle on them. Perhaps our global corporate leader could simply stop manufacturing plastic straws altogether. That would solve that problem.

  • nomoliberals||

    Kalifornia, Kalifornia!!!!! Time to eradicate liberalism or we'll all be putting up with this kind of nonsense before you know it.

  • Marcus Antonius||

    If Californication wanted to do some true social benefit, they would make it illegal to smoke anywhere outside of smokers place of residence! Not on the porch or back yard or car. Only inside where you live.
    Another improvement would be to place a $.10 per filter refundable deposit on every filter cig. So $2.00 per pack. As filter cigs are a very high %tile of what is smoked, it would cut down on the litter, and that which was tossed at the curb, would be picked up by kids to put in their college fund! A national law of either of these would also be very beneficial!

  • hackajar||

    But wait! What about all those ADA laws? Which will the waiter be fined for? Offering a straw: fine for giving something without asking. Not offering straw: Fine for not being considerate of man in neck brace who clearly will need a straw.

  • Makarov||

    Libs wonder why they're called fascists? And, working people wonder why they're considered stupid for supporting such an insane ideology?

  • Longtobefree||

    Actually, no to both.

  • Uncle Jay||

    RE: California Considers $1,000 Fine for Waiters Offering Unsolicited Plastic Straws

    Would there be a fine if the straw was solicited?

  • Rockabilly||

    Comrade Moonbeam has such wonderful ideas. Peoples should give them a chance.

    He took college courses from the Kennedy School of Government and even the Woodrow Wilson School of Government and Bureaucracy.

    His graduate thesis was on the Bureaucratic Mind.

    The Bureaucratic Mind (BM), as it is labeled by scholars, was modernized by the German Max Weber. The pointy head BM, was brought to the USA by the egg head Woodrow Wilson. Writing as an academic while a professor at Bryn Mawr College, Woodrow Wilson's essay "The Study of Administration"[54] argued for bureaucracy as a professional cadre. When he was elected the 1st democrat progressive president - he rubbed his hands and said - "now we can really control people in the USA!" Wilson, got the USA involved in WWI, a war that had nothing to do with America. No American man wanted to fight in Wilson's war of choice, so he started a military draft to force men to fight. What really go him going was how to fund it. So he started a federal income tax. Yes it was Wilson who designed all those IRS forms with the instructions that make no sense. Of course FDR had has hand in it later but it was Wilson, the democrat, who really go the ball rolling to make America the land of the BM.

  • Voice_of_Reason||

    "The urge to save humanity is but a false face for the urge to rule it" - some smart guy said that.

    California has gone nuts. They don't enforce immigration laws, the hotels have high incidence of bedbugs, they have the highest rate of poverty in America according to the supplemental measure of poverty, lots of places are covered in nasty graffiti. But hey, let's financially ruin waiters who bring straws!

  • Hank Phillips||

    See? Cheaper to roll up a C-note!

  • dolo||

    Punishing the waiter or waitress is wrong. As far as straws go it is another throw away item and there are many and it all goes in the trash somewhere. I know things can't go back to when I was a kid or even more so before that but I really think we need to do something . We don't have to have everything disposable. Many things we could change but we need reasonable and real thinking people to work on this problem.

  • Mr Happy Man||

    Wow. Jail time for offering straws. Zero perspective. This really demonstrates that Sacramento is super screwed up.

  • Thedumbingdownoftheusa||

    WOW!! How stupid. Just take the straws out of the restaurants. Done. No more straws. It's ridiculous to use them anyway.

  • Praveen R.||

    If activist groups want to fund a campaign to discourage the use, that is fine by me. But to make it a law????? Geez man. Way to give those of us who consider ourselves environmentalists a bad name. What an awful proposal. I really hope not enough votes are in the bag for that stupiid ass law.

  • Rockabilly||

    Comrade Moonbeam will be missed and there's a tear in my beer after watching.

    Raw Video: California Gov. Jerry Brown final State of the State address

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZVtoAZ0sFs

    A man of vision and foresight, he will be sorely missed.

  • m.EK||

    1) Does the California Constitution grant the State the ability to tell a private company how to run its business if it harms NO ONE?
    2) The waiter or waitress is supplying a SERVICE, swapping time, skill, and effort for money (BARTER), how can the State or city fine them for doing their job?
    3) Plastic can be made out of hemp oil (biodegradable)(probably several plant fibers that would also work). Why are the plastic companies not held accountable for using a medium that has now been made "illegal"?
    4) Before we go any further on the legislation, why not check on the living and business practices of the legislator and any/all that vote for something so absurd!
    5) Another product from hemp is rope. I suggest several and a large gallows for the State Legislators.

  • ||

    I'm curious as to how this would be enforced. Hidden cameras maybe in restaurants?

    Update: Reason spoke with Voleck Taing, a senior assistant to Assemblyman Calderon, who said they intend to amend the bill to remove the fines.

    Does this mean that the six moth jail sentence is still in effect? It would be interesting if you could somehow compute the environmental cost of a six month jail sentence. It might be more than a straw. I think a better way to go would be to impose a surcharge on a straw. Then it would be like grocery bags, you bring your own straw, and keep reusing them, and save money.

  • drisco304||

    Because if the government of California can't terrorize waiters, who CAN they terrorize?

  • Agammamon||

    The Los Angeles Times has gotten behind the movement, endorsing straws-on-request policies in an editorial that also warned that "repetitive sucking may cause or exacerbate wrinkles on the lips or around the mouth." Celebrity astronomer Neil DeGrasse Tyson (always up for a little chiding) and Entourage star Adrian Grenier have appeared in videos where an octopus slaps them in the face for using a plastic straw.

    I do not use straws in 'sit down' restaurants and consider them arriving with the drink to be annoying, however I will now make sure to request a straw every time I'm in CA now. Still won't use it and will ensure that I take it with me and throw it in the ocean.

    If I'm in Manhattan Beach I will bring a supply of straws with me to toss.

  • Agammamon||

    Update: Reason spoke with Voleck Taing, a senior assistant to Assemblyman Calderon, who said they intend to amend the bill to remove the fines.

    Just the fines? That's sooooo much better. Now when a waiter gets 6 months in prison for offering a straw the prosecutor can just shrug his shoulders and say 'nothing to do with me - I couldn't ask for the court to just fine the guy. But HE BROKE THE LAW and I'm tough on law so vote for me.'

  • MfK||

    Sounds like a campaign Reason should support. After all, the science is settled, right?

    Let's see, straws are made of plastic, which is made from petroleum, which was in the ground for 500 million years. And the opponents of straws are upset because they are going into landfills, i.e. into the ground. I'm not sure I see the problem, here. Unless it is that something was taken out of the ground, used for human enjoyment, and then returned to the ground. That would be unutterably obscene.

  • CrabtownUSA||

    Ahhh..this explains the sucking sound coming from California so succinctly.

  • CWK||

    Amazing that a person who's committed no violence, no theft, no derogatory word, but is just offering a straw would get 6 months in jail while Kate Steinle's killer goes free. But I guess that's California.

  • Walter Radley||

    Would the fine and jail time apply to undocumented workers who offered a straw to customers, or only to citizens.

  • TexasFlyer||

    These motherfuckers in California are officially crazy. Get out of this authoritarian, marxist state while you can. The more laws a particular government has, the more corrupt that government is.

  • tommhan||

    GEEZE, it must be stressful living in California.

  • Telcontar the Wanderer||

    Who the hell are all these people?

  • CrashDaily||

    I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's California. If they want to fine their servers in an over the top, totalitarian manner, let them. They are complete waisteoid tools in Cali anyway (No offense to the brave Conservatives who survive in that nut haven) The only stupid laws the rest of us should worry about are the ones that bleed over into our states, thru culture, illegal alien invasion or corruption. There's plenty enough to keep us busy right there.

  • Captain Brenner||

    We should all care . . . because the mental illness infection shows a pattern of spreading throughout the host.

  • That Fellow||

    California appears to be operating on the premise that having employed people in California is a bad idea.

  • Captain Brenner||

    Yes Yes . . . people working . . . NOT ALLOWED in Commie-fornia.

  • Peryno||

    Additionally, to enforce this the taxpayers will have to employ countless officials with expense accounts who go restaurant-to-restaurant to order drinks (often in plastic cups) in hopes that a waiter provides a straw without being asked. Hopefully there's an 8-year old out there somewhere who will grow up to overturn this law next year.

  • AskBrad||

    I live in CA and have q's:

    1. Does the 76 straws per day (~380k/30yrs/365) that fo into the ocean compare to the cigarette butts that are found everywhere? (I love the previous comment about a $0.10 CRV on each cigarette filter. Homeless people would be rich by turning in tens of thousands of them per day.)

    2. Does the disposable plastic ban affect medical devices? Oxygen masks and tubing, IV equipment, syringes, etc? Do do Paramedics have to utilize reusable IV equipment?

    3. Should they just license waiters like EMTs? Maybe $500 a year for a license and 48 hours of CE on being environmentally conscious) I don't think this will go over well with the acting community as they are all working as waiters. Does a SAG card count as a license?

    4. What if the waiter is an illegal alien? Can they still be arrested for straw solicitation? What if the initial charge is ID theft? Does the fact that they are here illegally shield them from arrest and prosecution?

    5. I remember the phrase, "If guns kill people, then matches cause arson, and spoons make people fat." Maybe this is trying to get people to not drink soda by making it more inconvenient to drink.

    I should probably be careful. CA lawmakers are certifiably crazy. By definition, they are a danger to themselves or others. (5150) They may get ahold of this and actually do some of these things.

  • Captain Brenner||

    This legislation will NOT pass . . . this time. But it does condition the public . . . that government's role is to create laws that rule over us.... THE OPPOSITE of that our founding forefathers created.

  • Captain Brenner||

    Libtards version of Wonderful Life . . . California waiters serving the prison population . . . . getting a variety of tips.

  • Captain Brenner||

    "We need to create awareness around the issue of one-time use plastic straws" . . . FAIL.... awareness is created about California's mentally ill authoritarian leadership.

  • Captain Brenner||

    This is THE LAST STRAW ! ! !

  • tombstone||

    Kalifornia is in a state of environmental paranoia. I was looking at some hunting knives at a sporting goods store the other day, and I noticed a warning on a package that stated "The State of California has determined that this product may cause cancer and birth defects". Seriously??

  • AndyWingall||

    California is also the only state that has warning signs on jetways that warn passengers they may be inhaling dangerous jet fumes. What's the point of freaking people out about something they already know? The Left is in a dark dark place.

  • Devastator||

    Kaliforna... ooooo K is edgy. Edgelord stuff right there.

  • madam margaret||

    democrats do anything to saboutage true environmentalism… which is way too hard and dangerous for them… as their endless queue of crony government projects dissassemble the planet…field by field, life by life

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  • tlspam2014||

    While the proposed bill is a bit silly, the issue is real. I personally don't want my grand kids swimming in a world of discarded plastic.

  • joebanana||

    Calderon, and Brown need 6 years in jail for being an idiot's. Why does California elect such f*cking brain damaged individuals? No wonder people are bailing out in record numbers.

  • AndyWingall||

    I love it! This and Lester Holt's fiasco in North Korea are precisely the kinds of things that will guarantee the outsider Trump''s victory in 2020. I only hope the Left keeps it up.

  • robertsgt40||

    If I were California I'd be more concerned about Fukushima washing ashore.

  • Richard Rider||

    The update at the end of the article shows that politicians can indeed be reasonable. The bill's author has graciously decided to drop the $1,000 fines. So -- assuming the update is accurate -- all a waiter has to worry about is spending up to six months in jail for handing out straws.

    And you crazy Libertarians think government can't be wise and sensible. Shame on you!

  • shawn11||

    Rather,fine the restaurant owners for having third grade plastic utensils in the kitchen https://www.thetechtoys.com

  • fajran||

    And nothing says happiness like a steel straw on a sub-freezing day.
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    jasa seo murah
    jasa seo jakarta
    jasa seo terbaik

  • caseym54||

    And nothing says happiness like a steel straw on a sub-freezing day.

  • Devastator||

    6 months in jail? Sounds like the punk who suggested this needs 6 months in the hoosegow to think about what a stupid fuck he is.

  • Queen Screwup||

    WTF? LMAO

  • Ndogg||

    Awesome idea. So, here's how it's going to play out:

    1. In order to avoid the potential fine, restaurants will charge extra for a straw. A charge that they will happily remind each customer as they ask for one. Amazing results will follow.
    2. OR the restaurants will skirt around the law by offering one-use only wax paper cups like their fast-food brothers do. This will fill landfills faster than any amount of straws would and cost the customer even more money. Wonderful!

  • منتديات الصقع||

  • John Kirno||

    Eco-Cycle is unable to provide any data to back up this number, telling Reason that it was relying on the research of one Milo Cress. Cress—whose Be Straw Free Campaign is hosted on Eco-Cycle's website—tells Reason that he arrived at the 500 million http://knowlesti.sg/ straws a day figure from phone surveys he conducted of straw manufacturers in 2011, when he was just 9 years old.

  • اخبار مصر||

    The major purpose of a web directory is to provide directory users with a categorized list of high quality websites from a chosen field or industry.

    http://forums.banatmasr.net

    http://forums.banatmasr.net/f29/

  • اخبار مصر||

    These look like paid protestors probably organized by some moneyed interest to cause chaos. All their completely asinine slogans were canned and designed to be revolting to the greatest commend denominator.

    Fake protestors. They were mostly white kids from what it looked like. Were they even students? Doesn't sound like anyone even has information about who they are.

    It's performance art.

    http://forums.banatmasr.net

    http://forums.banatmasr.net/f96/

  • John Kirno||

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