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Even Salon Thinks Trigger Warnings Have Ruined College

A 'sex in film' professor fails to make her classroom a safe space.

South ParkSouth ParkYou won’t believe it. I only believe it because the evidence is right in front of my face. Here, now it’s in front of yours, too: Salon published the terrific first-person account of a college professor who gradually came to realize that trigger warnings had ruined her class and made teaching impossible.

The trouble began for instructor Rani Neutill when she set out to teach a course on sex in American cinema:

I assigned a reading by Linda Williams, a chapter from her book, Screening Sex.It looked in intimate detail at the first blaxploitation film ever made– Melvin Van Peebles’, Sweet Sweetback’s Badasssss Song (SSBAS). The chapter outlined (with pictures), the plot of the movie and all the sexual acts that were in the film. Williams’ argument is that Blaxploitation and SSBAS arose from a reclamation of masculinity by black men who were historically emasculated and castrated (think of the killing of Emmett Till).

Neutill showed a scene from the film in class—she even warned students about it beforehand. The scene drove two students to flee the room in tears. Later, one of the outraged (white) students met with Neutill to scold her for showing a scene that portrayed a black man negatively. “I’m doing a minor in African American Studies,” said the student, who apparently thought this made her more informed on the subject of black culture than her professor. “How could your first images of black people be that horrible?”

To compensate, Neutill promised to show a scene with a more uplifting message about black sexuality at the next class. She selected something from The Wire. But before she could screen it:

I began class by talking briefly about learning through discomfort. The students were silent. I turned to them for questions about moments of feeling uncomfortable and how we could read these as productive. The student who came to my office raised her hand and asked, “Are we gonna talk about SSBAS.”

“Yes,” I said, “but I want us to talk about any of the films that made people uncomfortable. Let’s discuss the discomfort.” Her face fell. She started crying and ran out of the room. Her friend followed her. Right after she left I showed the scene with Omar. Later that day, she came to my office again, sobbing.

Neutill then implemented a policy of maximum trigger warnings, trying harder and harder to comply with her students’ impossible requests for coddling:

For the rest of the semester, I gave trigger warnings before every scene I screened. Every. Single. One. This wasn’t enough. A student came to me and asked that I start sending emails before class outlining exactly which disturbing scenes I would be showing so that I wouldn’t “out” survivors if they had to walk out of class when hearing what I was about to show. This took all the free form and off the cuff ability to teach. It stifled the teaching process. There would never be a moment for me to educate them by confronting them with the unknown, by helping them become aware of their own biases by making them feel uncomfortable.

Do yourself a favor and read the whole thing here.

Neutill, a friend and advocate of survivors of sexual assault, notes that the course title and description should have served as warning enough for students who truly can’t sit through a lecture about sex in film—or watch a few scenes—without breaking down. And there’s nothing unreasonable about expecting professors to supply students with enough information to make smart choices about which classes they should sign up for. Nor is it crazy to make infrequent accommodations for students who, for whatever reason, have to sit out from time to time.

But if Neutill’s experience is any indication, reasonable accommodations are not what students want. Instead, they require complete emotional shielding from any word, image, expression, idea, or name that bothers them at all. They expect others to proactively screen their lives for harmful material, as Butters was forced to do for Cartman in South Park’s recent, expert exploration of the subject for the episode, “Safe Space.”

Neutill, of course, is not remotely alone—she stands alongside Laura Kipnis, Vox’s terrified liberal professor, Teresa Buchanan, and all the other faculty members who were bullied by administrators or heckled by students for failing to make their classrooms or public writings trigger-free zones—for failing, in other words, to do the impossible.

Now even Salon­—a news outlet not exactly known for treating people like adults—is acknowledging the obvious: infantilizing students is a poor use of university resources. Perhaps we’ve turned some kind of corner?

Photo Credit: South Park

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  • R C Dean||

    Perhaps we’ve turned some kind of corner?

    Until the whinging nancies crying about trigger warnings and safe space feel some real pain, no, we haven't.

    Start by naming the students who complain.

    Drop anyone who complains from the class.

    You know, that kind of thing. As long as this is cost-free to the whinging nancies, they will keep it up.

    You get more of what you reward, and less of what you punish.

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    Some of the commenters are getting this exact message:

    wbaca
    5 hours ago

    @XaurreauX Anyone who's raised kids knows they have a thing they do: When they fall down and bump their knee, if it's not too bad, they'll look around for a sympathetic adult. If they find one, they''ll start crying and acting out. If they don't, they'll brush themselves off and get back to play.

  • Leigh||

    When my young ones fell down, I've always made a point to laugh at/with them, and most of the time, they'd just laugh with me, unless they really were injured - but I never given them that oh my god look that I see the new moms do when their little snowflake tripped and fell.

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    No kids yet, but when my nephew falls down, I usually just yell "Walk it off" to him, and he does fine.

  • tarran||

    Last Thanksgiving, my daughter broke her toe jumping down a flight of stairs racing after her cousins when desert was called.

    An hour or so later, I noticed her limping, and she told me not to worry about. "I'm walking it off, dad." she told me. An hour after that, when she was still limping, over her strenuous protests, I inspected her foot, and seeing the swelling & her inability to wiggle her toe, told her we were going to the ER.

    The way she acted, I was the biggest wuss on Earth. Until the x-ray came back. Then suddenly the trip was cool, because now she could tell everyone that she was having so much fun that she actually broke a bone.

  • perlchpr||

    OK, that's pretty bad-ass.

    My little nephew L. had his first facial scar before he was 1. He looks a lot like his dad and uncle. Poor kid. ;)

  • Notorious UGCC||

    What's a baby doing with a dueling scar?

  • R C Dean||

    What's a baby doing with a dueling scar?

    Working on his parries and ripostes, I hope.

  • Jack Strawb||

    There really needs to be an upvoting option here.

  • Kyfho Myoba||

    Didn't you get one at that age?

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    That's pretty hardcore. I applaud your parenting skills.

  • ||

    Props, tarran.

    I had a cousin(-in-law) who's daughter fell and skinned her knee. She came over to him and said it hurt. He said he'd have to take a look at it and asked if that was okay. Before he even got an answer he had licked his thumb and begun rubbing the dirt out of the abrasion. When she squealed and wrenched her knee away, he asked, "How does it feel now?"

    The criteria around our household is "Are you bleeding?" the only two answers that yield any response are 'Yes!' and *crickets*. When our 8-yr.-old split his eyebrow open (7 stitches), he didn't cry, he just yelled out "I'm bleeding!" While I mopped up the blood and got him putting pressure on the wound I was asking him cognitive questions. He interrupted me and asked, "Are we gonna have to go to the hospital?" I said, "Yeah, you'll probably 6 or so stitches." He replied, "Am I going to be able to watch the end of the Blackhawks game?"

    IMO, nothing gives you that "Mission Accomplished!" feeling as a parent like being there when your kid suffers an injury and they take it flawlessly in stride.

  • Overt||

    We always cheered when our daughter fell. "Wow that was awesome!"

    She would turn around and see us cheering, then raise her hands like she'd just won a race. That worked right up until pre-school when she learned that she could burst into tears any time she wanted a nanny teacher to dote over her for a few minutes. Now she can turn on the water works at the drop of a hat.

    I actually read a study that said kids who get laughter/cheering when they hurt themselves physically feel the pain for less time. So they aren't just learning how to respond, their body is learning what types of pain matter in life.

    That is why these "Trigger warning" brats don't surprise me. In a sane environment that only finds genuine anguish to be useful, they would have thicker skin. But by the time they are getting to college, they have physically adapted (down to the synapse) themselves to search for any sign of victimization and to amplify it into genuine feelings of pain.

  • Rod Flash||

    I was helping my darling (31 year old) daughter move some stuff around in her garage a few weeks ago. I banged my knee pretty hard and was sitting down trying not to cuss. She looked at me and said "Walk it off Dad". Then she laughed and said "Paybacks are hell".

  • commodious spittoon||

    You get more of what you reward, and less of what you punish.

    There ought to be a law!

  • Swiss Servator||

    An Iron Law?

  • commodious spittoon||

    Yes. But only if you've paid the iron price.

  • LarryA||

    No! Please!

    If you call it a "law" as in "law of economics" or "law of physics" politicians will think they can amend or rescind it, just like the laws they impose on us.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Hence calling them iron. Although maybe they're due for an upgrade, since even formerly sacrosanct constitutional bulwarks like the first and second amendment are looking pretty rickety.

  • R C Dean||

    Although maybe they're due for an upgrade,

    Heresy!

  • Agammamon||

    Look, too much of our manufacturing sector has fled overseas. We need sensible iron law protections to ensure that we're not flooded with cheap iron laws from China, further destroying the lives of hard-working Americans.

  • DenverJ||

    Further, we all know that key fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt iron.

  • DenverJ||

    * jet fuel

  • Just say Nikki||

    Drop anyone who complains from the class.

    Hello, professor, and welcome to the Title IX Star Chamber.

  • R C Dean||

    No sex discrimination, as far as I can tell, in dropping people from class based entirely on their disruption of the teaching environment.

    I know, I know. Title IX is now a vehicle for exterminating ungoodful thought, and the unmutual people who have such thoughts, from our colleges and universities, so that these former institutions of learning can devote themselves to engineering the New Socialist Person.

  • Just say Nikki||

    Um, it's obviously a hostile teaching environment.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, but it's hostile to everyone in the same way.

    If professors don't stick their necks out a bit to push back on this stuff, they are worthless as this will make actual teaching and rigorous study impossible. I thought it was a bit shameful how little you could get away with doing when I was in college. I can't imagine what it's like now.

  • SimonD||

    I'd never be able to make it in a modern college environment. My first thought would be along the lines of 'I don't have time to deal with children in my class. Get the f**k out.'. Of course, my second thought would be to vocalize my first.

    Of course we could be like Progs and make an argument like 'Humanities classes cause injury, so we need common-sense humanities class regulation.'

  • Jerryskids||

    You don't "drop" them from the class, you "protect" them from the class. For their own good.

    But that's the astounding part about this: A class on sex in film sold to a pre-schooler as a class on counting wooden blocks might excuse some whining about the subject matter but a college student who signs up for a class on sex in film and then wants to whine that the class includes sex in film as a subject matter is obviously too goddamn retarded to be trusted to feed himself with a spork. So have college standards fallen that low that they'll accept any moron that can fog a mirror or any random psycho basket case as a student? These kiddies need to be sent back to elementary school and taught to grow the hell up.

    Of course, I think this faux-emotional cripple shit is just a fad the kids these days are playing at. In my day, you just wore platform shoes and bell-bottom pants and paisley shirts with puffed sleeves so everybody knew how cool you were. I guess nowadays your performance art has to take it up to eleven because it's so much harder to get any attention.

  • Loki||

    So have college standards fallen that low that they'll accept any moron that can fog a mirror or any random psycho basket case as a student?

    I think the main requirement is that their tuition checks clear. And thanks to the gobs of cash from subsidized student loans courtesy of Uncle Sugar, they always clear.

  • Bubba Jones||

    I thought was going to watch porn for credit.

  • Zeb||

    I don't know about the naming names part.

    How about starting the class with a statement that the the class is going to involve some depictions and discussions of sex, rape, race, etc. and if you can't handle that, drop the fucking class? If you cant bear to be exposed to the materials being studied in the class, you have no business taking the class.

  • SimonD||

    If you can't bear to be exposed to this material, you have no business in college (or any adult environment); but yeah, you're right. Either make these kids grow up, or flunk them. In the real world, there's no time to deal with idiots.

  • perlchpr||

    Perhaps we’ve turned some kind of corner?

    I wouldn't fucking count on it.

  • Suicidy||

    Might as well just dig a big pit and start discarding these fleshy sacks of shit in them. If some 70's film makes you flee the room, you shouldn't bother to live.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Fail that little bitch.
    (It's unclear from the story that I didn't read if it's a man or a woman we're talking about)

    But fail that little bitch.

  • ||

    It is clear from the story that the offended party is a little bitch, so allowed.

  • juris imprudent||

    $100 says that 'bitch' ends up a middle-aged lady with lots of cats.

  • Suicidy||

    If it's a chick, then what she needs is a real man to straighten her shit out. A good long hard deep dicking, and then smack her ass, and send her off to the kitchen to bake her man a pie!

  • SugarFree||

    Nobody talk about the article! Only criticize Robby for not having written it the way you would have! This is very important!!!

  • commodious spittoon||

    Nitpick something that might be construed as validating or at the very least least conceding a point made by the social justice crowd!

  • paranoid android||

    And there’s nothing unreasonable about expecting professors to supply students with enough information to make smart choices about which classes they should sign up for. Nor is it crazy to make infrequent accommodations for students who, for whatever reason, have to sit out from time to time.

    why's he always gotta be social signaling that he likes to be reasonably courteous to other people!? I'M OUTRAGED.

  • SugarFree||

    OUTRAGED!

  • commodious spittoon||

    This is a safe space for anti-safe space ideas.

  • Suicidy||

    If I were a professor, I would apply the classic 'don't like it? Then fuck you. Go ahead and drop the class' policy.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You're just trying to get invited to cocktail parties!

  • Swiss Servator||

    Are these cocktails....free? Are they any good?

  • commodious spittoon||

    If there's free shrimp, count me in.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Yes, free. I got wrecked at the last official Reason function. I had no idea that the Rusty Woodchipper was straight bourbon, so I had 5 large servings. I held it together just fine, until I got home.

  • Christophe||

    "Rusty Woodchipper"

    No fucking way. That's awesome.

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    Of course Rico could not have written it the right way. He didn't graduate from Columbia

  • __Warren__||

    "Rico, I can see them. There's a blue jay. A red warbler over there. (looks down) Lee! Rico! Youngblood!"

  • __Warren__||

    If you need trigger warnings you are by definition worse than useless, you are actual cost to the rest of us.

    No one who gets "triggered" will ever do anything of consequence because that requires facing various types of risk and it requires a strong mental state to face those risks.

    Instead the idea is the rest of us have to coddle this person even though doing so does not benefit us at all. And if we don't we are at risk of being sanctioned in some way.

    Therefore I propose that if a person needs trigger warnings we allow it but they get institutionalized away from the rest of us.

  • Just say Nikki||

    No one who gets "triggered" will ever do anything of consequence because that requires facing various types of risk and it requires a strong mental state to face those risks.

    Actual people with PTSD say "go fuck yourself."

  • __Warren__||

    What the fuck are you talking about? How do these whiny little muppets have PTSD?

  • Microaggressor||

    They pretend they do.
    They don't.
    They conflate their uncomfortable feelings with actual flashbacks in order to score victim cred and justify their whining.

  • Zeb||

    Some of them might. But if they have it that bad, they should probably learn some coping skills rather than fucking up classes for everyone else.

  • Just say Nikki||

    Did I say I was talking about "these whiny little muppets"? I said "actual people with PTSD."

  • grrizzly||

    And we here are talking about worthless college students not about Iraq war veterans. Familiarize yourself with the discussion before posting.

  • Just say Nikki||

    Did Warren specify college students? He's bitching about anyone who gets triggered.

  • __Warren__||

    I meant weak-minded shitbirds like these students. I'd never heard of trigger warnings before this shit started to gain traction a few few years ago and while I don't know a lot of veterans I've never met one that was an insufferable crybaby like these kids are.

    Anyway I'm talking about people who have a reliance on trigger warnings not those who do get triggered by things but are able to not whine about it.

  • GILMORE™||

    There is some dissonance in the idea that "Trigger Warnings"... promoted mostly by radical feminists... is supposed to be justified by the theoretical post-war problems of Iraq War veterans.

    There was an article not long ago by an Iraq Vet @ college who had a TBI who thought people justifying their inane trigger-warning B.S. with claims about PTSD were absurd. Something like that; I can't remember where i came across it.

  • Zeb||

    Veterans are just the most visible group with high rates of PTSD at the moment. I may be wrong, but I don't think that they are the main justification for the proliferation of trigger warnings at colleges and on feminist websites. That seems to be more tied to the "everyone is getting raped" thing.

  • GILMORE™||

    "t I don't think that they are the main justification for the proliferation of trigger warnings at colleges and on feminist websites."

    No. The proponents of Trigger Warnings claim that they're doing it to protect "People With PTSD"

    Yet the actual people with PTSD - the minority of Iraq vets - think they are useless and crazy.

    Basically, the radfems propose the existence of a silent, invisible population of people who suffer from PTSD from some theoretical 'sexual trauma'.... who as far as anyone can tell *hardly exists*

    PTSD isn't some guaranteed outcome of any bad-shit that ever happens to people. its a highly specific and severe condition that affects a tiny minority. The people who claim that 'everyone raped has PTSD'... and additionally, "everyone who once fucked while drunk" was Raped... Ergo = Everyone has PTSD

    Its moronic.

  • ebohlman||

    And in any case, competent psychiatrists who actually treat PTSD specifically advise their patients not to try and avoid triggering stimuli, because doing so actually makes the condition worse (it results in previously non-triggering stimuli becoming triggering).

  • ||

    PTSD isn't some guaranteed outcome of any bad-shit that ever happens to people. its a highly specific and severe condition that affects a tiny minority. The people who claim that 'everyone raped has PTSD'... and additionally, "everyone who once fucked while drunk" was Raped... Ergo = Everyone has PTSD

    This. It all adds up to a bizarre belief that anyone who got groped at a frat party is going to have vivid uncontrollable flashbacks afterwards.

  • GILMORE™||

    "It all adds up to a bizarre belief that anyone who got groped at a frat party is going to have vivid uncontrollable flashbacks afterwards.'

    Its as though these people get their ideas about human psychology from bad Thriller movies.

  • Suicidy||

    Or made for TV Lifetime movies.

  • SimonD||

    ...and if you were actually a real victim of some sort of sex crime, of COURSE you would go to college and spend a huge amount of money to take a class on sex in movies.

    Some people are so stupid they must have 'breathe' tattooed on their eyelids in case they forget.

  • Microaggressor||

    Real PTSD is treated by confronting your fears, not avoiding it and whining every time someone reminds you of it.

  • GILMORE™||

    "Real PTSD is treated by confronting your fears"

    Just more evidence supporting the point that the people claiming that their "trigger warnings" are in the service of the theoretical PTSD-sufferers is complete bullshit

  • ||

    Right. They aren't the trigger warnings are merely a stepping stone to banning the content entirely. And really it's all about power and control. They are bullies who just want to prove they can push people around. They get their jollies by making people kowtow to their absurd demands.

  • Suicidy||

    War vets with PTSD laugh at the idea of 'trigger warnings'.

  • MSimon||

    How do these whiny little muppets have PTSD?

    Child abuse. Quite common.

  • grrizzly||

    No, that wasn't you being the worst, it was just dumb.

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    People with actual PTSD should seek therapy because that's a terrible condition to live with. Whiny college children, however, just need grown-ups to stop catering to their every complaint.

  • R C Dean||

    You know what the primary treatment for PTSD is?

    Exposure to your "triggers" in controlled settings.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Assuming you want your PTSD treated and not just affirmed.

  • R C Dean||

    Assuming, of course, that you have PTSD.

    There is probably no population in the world less traumatized than American college students.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Honestly? I would not be surprised if a great number of students do in fact manifest symptoms of PTSD as a result of sensitizing themselves to certain thoughts to such an extreme degree, and having a large community of like-minded people validating and reinforcing their hypersensitivity. This has hallmarks of mass hysteria writ huge over the internet.

    Some among them are no doubt mendacious manipulators who adopted the ideas for self-aggrandizement, but it only works because the movement has generated so much support. It's made a cult.

  • R C Dean||

    Manifesting symptoms of something, psychosomatically, is not the same as actually suffering from that something.

    You can pretend that you were traumatized all you want. That doesn't mean you have ever been traumatized.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Well, in either case they're happy taking the self-diagnosis, whether or not they're honest about the symptoms, but not the treatment, which puts the lie to any claims of personal suffering.

  • Zeb||

    Isn't that called "mass hysteria" or something? Or is "hysteria" too sexist?

    And I'm sure there are some students who have been raped or otherwise abused or been subjected to violence and do suffer from PTSD. But maybe those people should be self aware enough to avoid a class about sex in film. What the fuck did they think was going to happen in that class?

  • R C Dean||

    What the fuck did they think was going to happen in that class?

    That they were going to have their warped world-view validated, and their asinine demands for special accommodation met?

  • Loki||

    What the fuck did they think was going to happen in that class?

    That they would get the opportunity to make a big show by running out of class sobbing and everyone would feel sorry for them, thus increasing their victim-cred?

  • ||

    I would not be surprised if a great number of students do in fact manifest symptoms of PTSD as a result of sensitizing themselves to certain thoughts to such an extreme degree, and having a large community of like-minded people validating and reinforcing their hypersensitivity. This has hallmarks of mass hysteria writ huge over the internet.

    There is something to this. Today's college kids are the first generation to be admitted to college campuses who have grown up entirely in the internet age, who likely don't even remember a time before social media. I suspect that their hypersensitive behavior has *something* to do with that, whether it's a result of hyperactive content-filtering or altered social norms arising from socializing via facebook and twitter.

  • MSimon||

    Cannabis.

  • Zeb||

    Seems to help a lot of people.

    I've heard some interesting things about MDMA therapy too.

  • __Warren__||

    I don't want to be exposed to Warty in any sort of circumstances.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, this. It's a real thing and some people do have triggers that set them off like that. The perverse part is when people decide that the rest of the world has to adapt to accommodate their mental condition.

  • DenverJ||

    I can't handle crowds. When I get off the light rail it's the last stop, and everybody gets of the train. The elevators are packed, the stairs are packed. So, I wait until everybody else had gone, then I calmly run down the stairs. I also avoid night clubs and other crowded venues.
    See how easy that was?

  • cgr2727||

    I agree. I "triggered" a possum I found curled up under my porch one time, and it never did anything of consequence, unless you count getting its corpse stuffed in a hefty bag.

  • R C Dean||

    if a person needs trigger warnings we allow it but they get institutionalized away from the rest of us.

    As long as they are college students, I think we're good, then.

  • Loki||

    The problem is they eventually graduate from college and then expect the real world to be just like their college "safe space" and then the rest have to put up their whiny hyper neurotic asses.

  • ||

    This is the problem. The campus advocates claim that trigger warnings are only meant to be a heads up for victims of trauma to avoid triggering content, but in practice what they are really used for is as an official invitation to complain about any objectionable content being presented at all. And since they are required, it basically serves as a mechanism for campus activists to be told what to object to. If something has a trigger warning, it's like saying "please bitch about the fact that this content is being taught".

  • Jordan||

    The campus advocates claim that trigger warnings are only meant to be a heads up for victims of trauma to avoid triggering content, but in practice what they are really used for is as an official invitation to complain about any objectionable content being presented at all.

    This is known as the motte-and-bailey-defense, and it's constantly employed by feminists.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Appeasement seldom works.

  • Jordan||

    A nice relatively succinct example here:

    The feminists who constantly argue about whether you can be a real feminist or not without believing in X, Y and Z and wanting to empower women in some very specific way, and who demand everybody support controversial policies like affirmative action or affirmative consent laws (bailey). Then when someone says they don’t really like feminism very much, they object “But feminism is just the belief that women are people!” (motte) Then once the person hastily retreats and promises he definitely didn’t mean women aren’t people, the feminists get back to demanding everyone support affirmative action because feminism, or arguing about whether you can be a feminist and wear lipstick.
  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    Thanks for that excellent link.

    The social justice movement is the mad scientist sitting at the control panel ready to direct them at whomever she chooses. Get hit, and you are marked as a terrible person who has no right to have an opinion and who deserves the same utter ruin and universal scorn as Donald Sterling. Appease the mad scientist by doing everything she wants, and you will be passed over in favor of the poor shmuck to your right and live to see another day. Because the power of the social justice movement derives from their control over these weapons, their highest priority should be to protect them, refine them, and most of all prevent them from falling into enemy hands.

  • ||

    A great article that can't be reposted too many times.

  • See Double You||

    There's a lot of mental masturbation in the comments section.

  • Atma||

    This was an interesting piece. Thanks for the link.

  • Mr. Flanders||

    I suspect a certain percentage of these kids use it as a way to get out of doing work, too.

  • Loki||

    ^THIS^

    For every person who's actually "triggered" there's at least 10 who are just whiny cry-babies looking for attention and victim-cred, and another 10 who just want an excuse to get out of doing work.

  • Just say Nikki||

    I assumed everyone had done the reading. I showed one of the scenes that Williams’ writes about in detail. Before I screened it, I gave a warning, indicating that it was one of the disturbing scenes to which Williams refers. The scene shows a young Sweetback (played by the director’s son Melvin Van Peebles) having sex with a 30-year old woman. She finds him irresistible and thus starts the hyper-sexual evolution of Sweetback–every woman on earth wants to fuck him, including a whole bunch of white women. This, of course, is statutory rape. When the lights went on and the scene was over, two students left the room in tears. I was perplexed. I started to ask questions about Williams’ reading, how it felt to read about and then watch the scene, what questions of race and masculinity it provoked. Crickets man, crickets. Clearly no one had done the reading.

    And...they were rewarded for this.

  • ||

    That's the thing that struck me. The older white professor said that nobody complained to him. I imagine that's because, rightly or wrongly, they wouldn't get much sympathy there, whereas they knew the author-professor would bend over backwards to accomodate them. Seriously, if somebody complained to me about being "victimized" by having to watch a film clip in class, it would be very hard for me not to stare at him and tell him, "No, people who are actually assaulted are victimized. Watching a film clip doesn't victimize anybody, stupid."

  • ||

    That's the thing that struck me. The older white professor said that nobody complained to him. I imagine that's because, rightly or wrongly, they wouldn't get much sympathy there, whereas they knew the author-professor would bend over backwards to accomodate them. Seriously, if somebody complained to me about being "victimized" by having to watch a film clip in class, it would be very hard for me not to stare at him and tell him, "No, people who are actually assaulted are victimized. Watching a film clip doesn't victimize anybody, stupid."

  • Rich||

    “I’m doing a minor in African American Studies. How could your first images of black people be that horrible?”

    "I'm sorry. You're absolutely correct. I should have eased into it by showing this first."

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    Mistuh Bluebird's on mah shoulduh!

  • ||

    +1 tar baby

  • Tundra, well-chilled.||

    The Safe Space song is brilliant. That was one of the best South Park episodes in years.

    Last night's episode sucked, however.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    "Our town has only had a Whole Foods for 3 weeks and we already have our first gay kids."

  • ||

    I liked it.

  • Tundra, well-chilled.||

    After the Yelp and Safe Space episodes, I think my expectations were too high.

    Plus, I was sober.

  • Loki||

    Plus, I was sober.

    "Well there's yer problem!"

  • ||

    Well, Yaoi is an inherently hilarious subject, IMO. Maybe I'm wierd, or it's just because
    I've had some exposure to slash fanfic.

  • Kyfho Myoba||

    After reading about the "herbivore" subculture, I didn't think that Japan could get more fucked up. But then in the late '90s I didn't think that we could have a worse president than Bill Clinton

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    Later, one of the outraged (white) students met with Neutill to scold her for showing a scene that portrayed a black man negatively. “I’m doing a minor in African American Studies,” said the student,

    So,Neutill got Dozeal'd?

  • Microaggressor||

    It's always the white kid who feels the need to virtue-signal to assuage their guilt for being born the wrong color.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Which is funny, for although it is not called that in the article, the professor seems to want to confront the students over their "privilage" and it is being turned back on her.

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    “I’m doing a minor in African American Studies,” said the student,

    Just a minor? What, you don't think African American studies is worth a full major?

    Fucking racist

  • commodious spittoon||

    But don't ask about mastering in it.

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    Heh. I see what you did there.

  • bacon-magic||

    Shut up you hard worker. /Melissa Harris Perry(or Mizz Tampon if you're nasty)

  • ||

    Maybe they only let people like her minor in that, reserving the majors for genetically-approved students.

  • geo1113||

    Maybe she wasn't able to double major in Women's Studies and African American Studies at the same time. She would never be able to get in her second minor of LBGT Studies.

  • cgr2727||

    Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes (funny how my favorite jokes are the same ones my wife hates):

    "Hey, did you hear about the guy who took a women's studies class? Yeah, he studied abroad!"

  • esteve7||

    I think conservative students need to start abusing the trigger warnings. Sorta like how Cartman is abusing all the PC Tropes this season. Maybe then they will learn, or at least pause for a second to wonder...

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    "Mr. Teacher, positive portrayals of Communism give me vivid mental images of rapidly declining standards of living for the populace!"

  • Microaggressor||

    "It makes me feel unsafe. Like I'm LITERALLY about to be shipped off to a gulag and/or starve to death."

  • ||

    #feelthebern2016

  • R C Dean||

    "Mr. Teacher, positive portrayals of Communism give me vivid mental images of millions of people lying butchered in mass graves, starving to death, or being worked to death in Siberian camps!"

  • lafe.long||

    I think conservative students...

    C'mon... are there any such things?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Blanket trigger warning. You will be triggered in every possible way. Wear your big boy pants to class or drop the class altogether.

  • R C Dean||

    As a prof, that would be my go-to.

    "If you feel like you need a trigger warning to protect you from ideas or images, do not take this class. No warnings will be given, and no content will be censored. You have been warned."

  • Overt||

    Wear your big boy pants to class

    SEXIST!

  • R C Dean||

    And sizeist.

  • brady949||

    I took a class on the Holocaust in college. How the hell would you even teach that today?

    Warning: Literally everything about this may be disturbing, which is sort of the point

  • MSimon||

    And now I get triggered by freight cars. Waiting for a train to pass at a railroad crossing is torture. Well extra torture.

  • GILMORE™||

    I've noted that more and more frequently that when Salon crosses the line into full-retard... their commenters - about 90% screaming-Left - will actually bust their balls about it.

    And when there are these "confessionals" about how just *maybe* this SJW-promoted hair-trigger-offendedness isn't the best stuff in the world? They seem univocal in their agreement.

    Shorter = many of the readers of Salon seem to think that the magazine itself has gone too far afield into Deep-Lefty-Derp. And this has been the case for the last few years.

    if anything's "turning a corner" its the Left itself, realizing that they're not going to win new converts with this insane progressive radicalism that has been so in-vogue. the wider-media that had made hay pandering to those type seem to be slowly catching up to that idea.

  • lafe.long||

    I commend your cockeyed optimism.

  • GILMORE™||

    in fairness to myself = i'm basing the observation on actual things i see in their Idea Sewer (comment section)

    "gruff mcgruff
    6 hours ago

    We liberals have created and enabled this environment.

    susan sunflower
    6 hours ago
    @gruff mcgruff Actually I see it as fairly classical operant conditioning -- we rewarded the "wounded" or "very sensitive" with a great deal of attention and sympathy and everyone around them "caught on" that being very sensitive was rewarded .... it has a very classic "sibling rivalry" quality ... see also people who talk endlessly about their gluten sensitivity and/or other food "requirements" ...

    Snitches and tattle-tales operate under the same illusion that they are gaining some sort of advantage ... it takes on a life of its own.

    What I find rather alarming is imagining the world of safety they desire ... and will desire in a decade or so, for THEIR children as what they perceive as being "good parents" ... not to mention what appears to be serious problems wrt normal interpersonal sex - not as intimacy or pleasurable, but as a quazi-legally mediated power struggle -- there's a bloodless even toxic level of self-consciousness in this supremacy of how one "feels" about things -- R.D. Laing talked about this sort of reification

    gruff mcgruff
    @susan sunflower
    Yup. Feelings become their own entities, to be protected and guarded."

  • Bern-o-Matic 5000||

    Hmm...if only someone had pointed out these obvious consequences ahead of time....

  • Zeb||

    not to mention what appears to be serious problems wrt normal interpersonal sex - not as intimacy or pleasurable, but as a quazi-legally mediated power struggle -- there's a bloodless even toxic level of self-consciousness in this supremacy of how one "feels" about things

    This was particularly good.

  • ||

    “Yes,” I said, “but I want us to talk about any of the films that made people uncomfortable. Let’s discuss the discomfort.” Her face fell. She started crying and ran out of the room. Her friend followed her. Right after she left I showed the scene with Omar. Later that day, she came to my office again, sobbing."

    This didn't happen.

    I refuse it did.

  • ||

    Yeah, no shit. Why on earth did the professor not say to this student, "You know, if you're too emotionally fragile to have a discussion about a movie that you have no personal connection to, then maybe college is not for you"? That wouldn't be sensitive enough to students' needs, I guess.

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    I can't even.

    *sobs and runs away*

  • Loki||

    Pussy!

  • MSimon||

    I'm triggered by specially shaped explosives set off by submicrosecond timed blasting caps and krytons.

    It is a blast.

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    Eh, pass on both the author and the special snowflakes. Neither of them sound like people to be around.

  • kinnath||

    I haven't started screaming it yet, but at some point I am going to break down an yell at someone to just grow the fuck up.

  • commodious spittoon||

    After which you'll be invited with shrill invectives to check your privilege.

  • kinnath||

    I have not heard that I real life yet. But I have been practicing what I am I going to say when it does.

  • R C Dean||

    "If I'm so fucking privileged and empowered and shit, maybe you should think twice about pissing me off, hmm?"

  • kinnath||

    not what I had in mind, but I like it

  • commodious spittoon||

    If they're going to claim to feel unsafe, maybe they should have a reason.

  • LarryA||

    [Glance inside shirt at chest] "Yep. Still hairy. Now for the next point..."

  • MSimon||

    Methyl mercaptin triggers me. I have to leave the vicinity.

  • Free Society||

    And there’s nothing unreasonable about expecting professors to supply students with enough information to make smart choices about which classes they should sign up for. Nor is it crazy to make infrequent accommodations for students who, for whatever reason, have to sit out from time to time.

    But[...]

    OBLIGATORY. For a minute there I thought Robby was completely against making room for accommodations.

  • geo1113||

    I thought that was pretty fucked up to say make accommodations for whatever reason whatsoever. If the accommodation is for course content, then the student shouldn't be taking the fucking class.

  • paranoid android||

    I thought that was pretty fucked up to say make accommodations for whatever reason whatsoever.

    So saying it's "not crazy" to make "infrequent accommodations" from "time to time" is equivalent to saying " make accommodations for whatever reason whatsoever"?

  • geo1113||

    " Nor is it crazy to make infrequent accommodations for students who, for whatever reason, have to sit out from time to time."

    Ok...so I added whatsoever which was redundant. But a student should not be accommodated for whatever reason when it refers to course content.

  • paranoid android||

    But a student should not be accommodated for whatever reason when it refers to course content.

    That's seems like an unnecessarily absolutist take. So if there's a science lab which may involve exposure to bright flashing lights and there's a student with epilepsy in the class, he shouldn't ask for any accommodation or an alternate assignment? He should take his seizure or take an F, is that right?

  • geo1113||

    I was commenting based on the context of this article.

  • Jerryskids||

    Back when I was in school whiny crybabies like this would get accommodated just about every day. Keep that nonsense up and you'd get threatened with a lemonade accommodation or even the dreaded chocolate accommodation.

  • R C Dean||

    I would have gone more with:

    Nor is it crazy to allow students who, for good reason, have to sit out from time to time, to do so, provided that they do not exceed the number of excused absences allowed by the professor for all students.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    gradually came to realize that trigger warnings had ruined her class and made teaching impossible.

    *whispers in low voice... leans over to Rico*

    I think that's by design.

  • Alice Bowie||

    You see, none of you can fuck with me in my Save Space.

  • LarryA||

    I blame the internet. Obviously these precious flowers never had to risk social outlawry going to the wrong side of the tracks and sneaking into a seedy theater to watch a movie with a married couple actually sharing a bed.

    Back in my day a "Sex in Cinema" class would have had parents out with pitchforks, and every student in the school lined up to "study" The Blue Lagoon and The Graduate.

  • Mr Whipple||

    Obama likes this


    http://bit.ly/1inhkfj

  • commodious spittoon||

    Maybe he can work to reform Title IX, then. Contrary to the president's opinion the DOE is running roughshod over universities that resist the social justice movement.

  • R C Dean||

    Obama doesn't have to "work" to "reform" Title IX. The regs and the enforcement policy are under his complete control.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Okay, that's very triggering to me and I think you need to be careful about how you use language, because "under his control" pretty much means rape. You even said "force" right before you said rape!

  • R C Dean||

    Sorry.

    Would it be better if I said "Obama can jam any reform he wants right down the throats of any bureaucrats who try to resist."

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Neutill showed a scene from the film in class—she even warned students about it beforehand. The scene drove two students to flee the room in tears. Later, one of the outraged (white) students met with Neutill to scold her for showing a scene that portrayed a black man negatively.

    Just FYI, I grew up on Blaxploitation films. For those of you that loved (and love) the form, I strongly recommend Black Dynamite, one of the best Blaxploitation spoof films ever made.

  • Neon Bible||

    You can say that again!


    But seriously, Black Dynamite is brilliant. The brainstorming scene in the diner cracks me up every time.

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    Absolutely. I find it to be one of the best comedy movies, period, regardless of what it's parodying.

    And yes, the Roscoe's joke in the diner is the cherry on top of that scene.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Neutill showed a scene from the film in class—she even warned students about it beforehand. The scene drove two students to flee the room in tears. Later, one of the outraged (white) students met with Neutill to scold her for showing a scene that portrayed a black man negatively.

    Just FYI, I grew up on Blaxploitation films. For those of you that loved (and love) the form, I strongly recommend Black Dynamite, one of the best Blaxploitation spoof films ever made.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I for one would support a police officer forcibly turning some desks over and dragging these students from the class.

    *ducks*

  • geo1113||

    A little macroaggression from time to time.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    And there’s nothing unreasonable about expecting professors to supply students with enough information to make smart choices about which classes they should sign up for.

    Defined by what? This is EXACTLY what the Triggerati are demanding, it's just their definition of 'enough information' is radically different than yours or mine.

    Hey, my class is called "social studies", if what you find inside bothers you*, drop the fucking class.

    *social studies can and should cover all manner of "uncomfortable topics". This "informed choices" bullshit is what gets us into this mess in the first place. Don't placate the whinging.

  • R C Dean||

    Its like retroactive revocation of consent for sex, in a way.

    They can't ever give informed consent for a class in advance, because they don't know what will trigger them until they see it.

  • Christophe||

    In this day and age, almost all course content is available online (and so are reviews of previous iterations of the course). Anyone who wants to know can, without burdening the faculty.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Now even Salon­—a news outlet not exactly known for treating people like adults—is acknowledging the obvious: infantilizing students is a poor use of university resources. Perhaps we’ve turned some kind of corner?

    No, not even close. We're not a thousand miles from the corner. This shit? It's just the warm up.

  • GILMORE™||

    "here’s the irony, all of the students who were upset were the feminists, the activists, and there they were, treating a woman of color professor like she wasn’t an authority while treating old white dudes like they are."

    Its no different than how the hardest-core proggy SJW types moan the loudest to their own peers = because this is whom they know they can manipulate.

    Or how BLM has so far mostly targeted other left-of-center groups for "disruption". Or my favorites.... The Brunch Protesters

    They moo their moos of justice-seeking at the people who nominally are supposed to be the most prone to 'supporting' them.

    But in the end it doesn't seem like this particular prof 'gets it' either. She ultimately rejects Greg Lukainoff and Jonathan Haidt's criticism of "safe spaces" as well...

    "Here lies the problem. Taking a tone like that just pisses students off even more. I’m not saying that if we said these things nicely, students would suddenly get it; they won’t. I am living proof of that."

    She has no answers or criticisms other than to say, "You should know something is wrong when Radicals sound like Social Conservatives", but rejects any self-examination of the 'Victim Culture' she participates in

  • R C Dean||

    Taking a tone like that just pisses students off even more.

    Well, the whinging nancies. But you can never placate them, never, as she admits.

    So where does that leave her? Apparently, she is still perfectly willing to gut her course content to facilitate the whinging nancies. What other options are there, in her world? They have to be placated, and they can't be placated until you knuckle under to their every demand.

  • PBR Streetgang||

    "The Whinging Nancies" sounds like a cross dressing burlesque group

  • juris imprudent||

    It would also make a good name for a band that only does Sex Pistol covers/tributes.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    She has no answers or criticisms other than to say, "You should know something is wrong when Radicals sound like Social Conservatives", but rejects any self-examination of the 'Victim Culture' she participates in

    When I read this: Neutill, a friend and advocate of survivors of sexual assault I immediately wondered if steeping yourself in the Victim Culture was coming back to bite her, albeit in an unexpected way.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    So, I suppose it's not the right time to be showing *Titus Andronicus?*

  • Loki||

    South Park has been killing it this season. I wonder if maybe Trey and Matt were getting a bunch of shit from SJWs and decided to spend an entire season mocking the living shit out of them?

  • Juice||

    Yes, but last night's episode wasn't all that funny. It was just...weird.

  • ||

    Are you kidding? Yaoi is a great target for mockery....

  • Jane Tow||

    Reads to me like they were not mature enough to be taking the class.

  • Deckard||

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
    LOL

  • Krabappel||

    A course on sex in American Cinema? I'm sympathetic to the bullshit trigger warning nonsense, but your class is a bullshit filler class that will in no way benefit anyone or help them get a job.

    Maybe the real fucking problem is that we are allowing these precious snowflakes to take federal student loan dollars and waste it on worthless garbage like this.

  • Loki||

    That's definitely part of the problem. That and all the bullshit Office of Diversity and OMGZ TOO MANY WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS CAMPUS! bureaucrats that drive up the cost of tuition. College is pretty much bullshit anymore.

  • Marshal||

    Perhaps we’ve turned some kind of corner?

    Zero chance. Salon, Vox and Slate are pointing out that allies shouldn't be targeting each other.

  • juris imprudent||

    It is the friendly suggestion that is [unsuccessfully] attempting to forestall the inevitable intranecine fragging.

  • SQRLSY One||

    The laws of gravity, metal fatigue, corrosion, and so forth, are very stressing to bridge-building engineers in training, they should be given trigger warnings and allowed to skip classes about any such stuff that stresses them out. Then they should be allowed to build bridges that fail, and kill the rest of us, in this scenario.

    That stresses the hell outta me; WHERE is MY trigger warning that we are giving a "pass" to all of the whining snowflakes?!??!!? And that roads and bridges (and all of the rest of society and its infrastructure) are going to go to Hell in a hand-basket, under the tyranny of the whiners and cry-babies?

    (Reality stresses me out, where is my "freebie" bypass?)

  • Juice||

    the trans women who are being murdered weekly

    Weekly? This is news to me.

    the black men who are victims of police brutality daily

    But fuck every other victim of police brutality.

  • GILMORE™||

    "trans women who are being murdered weekly"

    What started as a statistical exaggeration has now become a rhetorical staple of the gender-justice set

    Hyperbole is the new normal

  • ||

    Weekly means , like, 52 of them a year.

  • GILMORE™||

    Yes, but the numbers don't even support that many

    its based on this stuff, which naturally claims the issue is, "Under-reported" (every *special person's* problem is under-reported, obviously... while things like "regular old black people shooting each other" is probably 'overblown')

    However even their own stats seem to show that the average is about a dozen-per-year

    and that the vast majority are poor blacks/hispanics - which should be a flag that the issue has a lot more to do with violence in 'certain communities', but nay = that's the wrong kind of intersectionality

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    The whole thing also implies that 100% of whatever number of 'trans women' are murdered are murdered for their trans-ness.

  • GILMORE™||

    Right.

  • Christophe||

    Silly you. A minority is purely defined by their label.

    If you kill them it's because of their label.
    If you don't hire them it's because of their label.
    If you greet them it's because of their label.

  • GILMORE™||

    An interesting note, re: Statistics

    While the trans-justice-advocates may routinely make claims about the rate of violence that transfolk endure (and i have no doubt it is high relative to the average)...

    ...i doubt that they ever, if at all, mention the most glaring stat which stands out regarding their population = that *30-40%* of post-op trans-sexuals attempt suicide.... about 19X that of the regular population

    When this screamingly-high number does pop up, advocates tend to assert that it proves their point re: "injustice" - that if only the world were more proactively *accepting*, these people wouldn't suffer quite so much.

    I don't doubt the veracity of that either. Nevertheless = even if the suicide rate were "only" 10X that of the general pop... it sure as hell isn't a sign that all is hunky dory in trannyville.

  • ||

    What about pre-op suicide rates?

  • GILMORE™||

    Given that self-identification as "trans" prior to actual gender-reassignment is all so much "he/she says he/she *feels* like a he/she"... there's no way to really collect that data other than via anecdote;

  • JeremyR||

    Yeah, it's pretty obvious that most trans people are mentally ill, basically the same with the people who are convinced they should be blind or amputees.

    Lopping off body parts doesn't really help the core of the problem - that they are mentally ill, it just helps the symptoms.

    Yet apparently doctors are becoming more and more accommodating. I read a thing about how one of those people who wanted to be blind, was actually blinded by a doctor

  • GILMORE™||

    "basically the same with the people who are convinced they should be blind or amputees."

    Not really. Body integrity disorder exists completely separate from any person's particular view of their "identity" or gender. I agree they're both weird, but there are plenty of hi-functioning and normal people with BID that don't off themselves with any particular frequency, while trans-sexuals have, as noted, an incredibly high suicide rate.

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    ...the Office of Sexual Assault Prevention Services at the university

    That this exists should be the biggest damned red flag to anyone thinking of attending that university. When you have to have an "office" for handling the rapes that occur there....holy shit, run for the hills.

    /I'm sure this is the new normal for universities today, but...damn.

  • ||

    At least the men aren't running out of rooms crying yet. Once we're there we've really hit a turning point.

  • ||

    Split the funding. I'd like to see how free unversities do compared to completely feminist universities (maximum of trigger warnings, affirmative consent, assumption of guilt etc.). It'd be interesting to see whether those asking for extreme protection can function as a group. I suspect they're dependent on others. Call it parasitic.

    P.S.:

    Hell, if (politically) necessary, even only fund a few such extreme feminist universities, and disregard pluralism/equality. The information would be worth it. Communist countries have been tested. Test this.

  • esteve7||

    lol. Communism killed 100 million people in the last decade, and you still have people thinking it will work 'if we just got the right people in power'

  • MikeyKomb||

    Real communists expect to be worker bees after the new revolution. Faux communists assume they will be in the office worker class. I am still trying to find a real communist.

  • SimonD||

    Well, it works great for you if you're the one in charge. Maybe their thinking is 'it will work if we just get ME in power.'

  • mockmock||

    There are three instructors listed. I wonder how many of them were part of the problem before it turned around and bit them in the ass. And all the others hiding behind their desks right now afraid that "it'll happen to me" instead of standing up... well, wouldn't that be a shame.

  • Mickey Rat||

    " It stifled the teaching process. There would never be a moment for me to educate them by confronting them with the unknown, by helping them become aware of their own biases by making them feel uncomfortable."

    In the end, SJW teaching techniques are no match for SJW students.

  • Rockabilly||

    What a bunch of fucking pussies

  • Silverleaf||

    I'm sorry, a "sex in film professor"?!? Wow.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Aren't movies supposed to make you cry? Why are students afraid to share their feelings in a frwsking art class?

    Isn't that the real problem here?

  • antodav||

    Bottom line is, liberals are pussies. And that applies to most of the Millennial generation. They won't be getting "trigger warnings" when they are out applying for jobs. I suppose the Supreme Court will declare that businesses can be sued for not providing their employees safe spaces.

    Seriously. Political correctness needs to die in a hole.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Government money for higher education is a thoroughly rancid idea. Student loans ought to be based on the student's chosen course of study. We need legions of nurses and no more communications majors and artists.

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