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Student Accused of Rape By 'Mattress Girl' Sues Columbia U., Publishes Dozens of Damning Texts

Sulkowicz made life a living hell for Nungesser

Ema SulkowiczColumbia Spectator / YoutubePaul Nungesser, the Columbia University student accused of raping fellow student Emma Sulkowicz, is now suing the university for doing nothing to stop Sulkowicz's harassment campaign against him, which he claims "effectively destroyed" his college experience, reputation, and future career prospects.

His lawsuit contains a wealth of new information about the contested sexual assault, including dozens of messages establishing Sulkowicz's sexual "yearning" for Nungesser, which she sent to him both before and after the alleged incident. (Full text of the lawsuit here, courtesy of KC Johnson.)

Sulkowicz and Nungesser initially became friends at Columbia, developing an intimate relationship that involved several sexual encounters and frequent discussions of sex and relationships. Eventually, she accused him of choking, attacking, and anally raping her. Nungesser was cleared by Columbia's sexual assault adjudication process (the police later declined to pursue charges, citing a lack of reasonable suspicion), which prompted Sulkowicz to go public with her claims and start carrying her mattress everywhere she went as a form of protest against what she viewed as a miscarriage of justice. She became something of a spokesperson for rape victims, and was even invited to attend the State of the Union address with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-New York).

There were reasons to doubt Sulkowicz's claims. Reason contributor Cathy Young outlined some of them in a detailed piece for The Daily Beast. Perhaps most damning for Sulkowicz's credibility are friendly messages she sent him, and continued to send, even after he allegedly raped her.

Now there are more reasons. Many more. The lawsuit contains additional correspondence unreported thus far—much of it crude, although relevant to the incident. Sulkowicz broached several sexual topics with Nungesser: she talked to him about whether her boyfriend was using protection (with her, and with the other women he was sleeping with at the time), she asked Nungesser whether he was dating or sleeping with anyone, and she implied an interest in anal sex (she texted him “fuck me in the butt”). After Nungesser and Sulkowicz began sleeping together, the lawsuit asserts that Sulkowicz “asked Paul to engage in anal sex with her.”

None of that proves one way or another whether Sulkowicz consented to sex on the evening that he allegedly raped her, of course. It’s possible that Sulkowicz withdrew her consent and Nungesser continued—in brutal, violent fashion. But taken together, the messages she continued to send him even after he allegedly attacked her—as well as some of her demonstrably false assertions, including that she never brought up anal sex with him—certainly look bad for her.

But Nungesser’s lawsuit isn’t against Sulkowicz—it’s against the university, for first failing to protect him from her smear campaign, and then turning “into an active supporter” of it. (The Washington Examiner’s Ashe Schow explains why Nungesser isn’t suing Sulkowicz here.) Of particular importance is the fact that Sulkowicz transformed her rape allegation and subsequent activist efforts into an art project for Columbia course credit. Jon Kessler, the university professor who signed off on the “Mattress Project,” is one of the defendants, along with Columbia President Lee Bollinger, the trustees, and the university itself.

According to the lawsuit:

As a result of Defendants’ actions, Paul’s entire social and academic experience at Columbia has suffered tremendously. In adherence to Columbia’s Confidentiality Policy, he did not discuss any of the investigations with any of his classmates. Yet Emma did the exact opposite, gaining support from classmates, professors, the administration, and President Bollinger. Emma has not faced any consequences for breaching the confidentiality policy.

Silenced, and also enduring suspensions and increasing ostracism from his two main social activities (ADP and the Columbia Outdoor Orientation Program ("COOP")), Paul’s social life crumbled to the point of isolation. Even after being cleared of the outrageous allegation, no serious attempt was ever made by the university to rehabilitate him within those groups. Day-to-day life is unbearably stressful, as Emma and her mattress parade around campus each and every day.

Due to this ostracism, and threats to Paul’s physical safety, University resources such as dorms, libraries, dining halls, and the gym are not reasonably available for Paul’s access. Even attending classes has become problematic, as he has endured harassment and has had his photo taken against his will while in class.

The ordeal has certainly made life a living hell for Nungesser; whether that entitles him to any relief from Columbia, I can’t say.

I can say that those in the media who uncritically re-reported Sulkowicz’s claims and gave credence to her antics should be feeling rather ashamed of themselves. With each new development, this story begins to look more and more like a Rolling Stone job.

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  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    "she implied an interest in anal sex (she texted him “fuck me in the butt”)."

    Are you sure you know what the term "implied" means?

  • robc||

    I dont think there will be a better comment in this thread.

  • Xeones||

    Are you implying that you don't think there will be a better comment in this thread?

  • Almanian!||

    I don't want nothin' implied in my butt. No sir....

  • robc||

    You already won one thread today. Stop trying so hard.

  • Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns||

    Because of the implication.

  • 68Whiskey||

    Pff, don't you look at me that way, you certainly wouldn't be in any danger.

  • kinnath||

    implied == demonstrated, right?

  • Nick W B||

    im·plied
    imˈplīd
    adjective
    suggested but not directly expressed; implicit.
    "she was aware of his implied criticism"

  • Zeb||

    Stating it explicitly is one way to imply something.

  • ||

    Yeah, your mom is quite explicit with me about it.

  • KDOG||

    No, it's different Zeb. That's why there are two words, explicit and implicit.

  • Illocust||

    Eh, I've heard that phrase as an expression of exasperation before. Means the same thing as 'slap me in a dress and call me shirly' just more vulgar. I'd need context to figure out if she was being literal or not.

  • MJGreen||

    Right, it can just as easily be some crude expression, and not a literal demand. I feel like I've heard "Fuck me in the ass with a rusty chainsaw" before. I don't think it was literal.

  • Dr. Reason||

    Absolutely! And if you read the lawsuit, you will see that the context of that statement is missing. The context is deliberately omitted so that the statement is taken out of context to try to make it make it mean something that it didn't mean at all.

  • Nick W B||

    Actually the lawsuit included the full exchange:

    "Emma: fuck me in the butt
    Paul: eehm
    maybe not?
    jk
    I miss your face tho
    Emma: hahahah
    you don’t miss my lopsided ass?
    Paul: ido.
    just not that much
    good I am actually too tired to choose a movie
    "god
    also to tired to spell apparently"

  • KDOG||

    Well lick my balls, no I meant figuratively.

  • Cardiologist||

    but did she say 'pretty please'. According to my read of the affirmative consent rules nothing counts unless you say "pretty please with sprinkles on top!"

  • Harold Falcon||

    The Wolf: "Pretty please, with sugar on top, fuck me in the butt."

  • Malvolio||

    "You keep using that word..."

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    had his photo taken against his will while in class

    No doubt posted on tumblr or reddit along with "SEE HOW CLOSE I CAME TO BEING RAPED?"

  • wolf2600||

    TRIGGERED!!!!

  • robc||

    I have decided Universities are weird. I am so glad I went to a school that was nearly entirely STEM. Even if that meant a 3:1 male:female ratio.

  • Almanian!||

    Yeah. School was a drunken sex party in the 80's. Pre-AIDS, my colleague at work called it "sport fucking". Just Bacchanal.

    This? This shit is just nuts. Course, we had a pretty good Psycho Bitch ID Network™ so e'er'body knew whom to avoid. Cause you never wanna stick in the cray, yo.

    Fuck this bitch and the colleges the promote this kind of shit - i.e. most*.

    *God Bless Hillsdale!

  • Florida Man||

    Eh. I graduated UF in aught 3 and UNF in aught 8 and can only remember 1 SJW lecture.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    "remember"

  • Loki||

    I am so glad I went to a school that was nearly entirely STEM. Even if that meant a 3:1 male:female ratio

    Same here, only my school was more like a 12:1 male to female ratio. While not getting laid the entire time sucked, I think I dodged a bullet.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    A-men. Don't think it's the m:f ratio so much as the number of humanities idiots that you have to stay clear of.

  • Adans smith||

    Nothing worse then a women scorned,or 'bitches be crazy'.

  • Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns||

    My favorite is when she declares she can't understand why he's suing the professor and the university based on an 'art project.'

    That's right - falsely accusing someone of rape is just an art project if you do so in a quirky manner.

  • PapayaSF||

    I think we need to come up with an art project to counter hers. You may have missed my late post the other day with my movie scenario, which I think would make a fine art project for some enterprising college students. (Though I've got dream casting instead of student-film casting.) I invite you all to suggest casting and characters and plot points, etc. It's a contemporary version of the old Reefer Madness-style "educational" films.

    Misogyny Madness: Young, innocent college student Haven Monahan (Justin Beiber) joins a fraternity at Faber State University. Soon he falls under the sway of shady upperclassmen who are secret figures in the Ivory Patriarchy, a group of men's rights activists. He takes the "red pill" and begins a plot to trick Jackie (Taylor Swift), an innocent student with a crush on him, into becoming the unwitting star of their next ritual of oppression....

  • Libertarian Joe||

    Wait, so its a documentary?

  • KDOG||

    Women and men are equal. Women are more equal.

  • MJGreen||

    Look, when I go to the Columbia campus and hold up a sign that says, "EMMA SULKOWICZ WANTS YOU TO FUCK HER IN THE ASS. RIGHT NOW." I'm just engaged in an art project. Why is everyone making such a big stink about it?

  • Don'tTreadOnMe||

    He said, "stink", huhuhu....

  • pronomian||

    Yea, liberal arts

  • Rational Exuberance||

    There is a difference between "libertine" and "liberal".

  • ||

    She's a psycho stalker, and was totally empowered and encouraged by the usual suspects to continue being even more of a psycho stalker. Oh, isn't modern identity politics bullshit wonderful? Utterly casually destroying people's lives over ideology, it's all so...progressive, don't you think?

    And the dude was a fool (this does not imply in any way that he deserved this, but we all have to take some responsibility for who we're fucking). Crazy stalkers--male or female--have tons of warning signs. If you don't see them, you don't want to.

  • robc||

    Crazy stalker/Chick who will let me stick it in her butt.

    He clearly made the wrong choice, but the reasoning is obvious.

  • ||

    Plenty of chicks like it in the ass, you don't need a crazy one for that. The only valid excuse for dealing with crazy is youth and inexperience, but if that's his excuse, he picked a doozy of a learning experience. One would hope that even without experience your instincts would warn you away. I know mine did, thank Jeebus.

  • robc||

    I dont know whether is was my instincts or the 3:1 ratio I mentioned above.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    You went to Hopkins too?

  • robc||

    Georgia Tech.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Well at least you had the surrounding area to draw from

  • ||

    Hey, what was Loyola, chopped liver?

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Well there was CONDOM (College of Notre Dame of Maryland)

  • mauricegirodias||

    Ahem, those Mass Communications Majors are at Towson for a reason.

  • robc||

    Exactly.

    Any Techie who cant get laid, with the huge college aged female population in ATL, has only themselves to blame. Too geeky by half.

    Which I guess was my problem.

  • robc||

    Agnes Scott College -- providing sexual outlets for GT since 1889.

    That may not be their official motto.

  • MiloMinderbinder||

    +1 Agnes Scott

  • Illocust||

    He was raised to be a feminist. A.K.A. he was raised to see the warning signs of crazy to mean 'strong, independent, woman'. Poor bastard, though his refusal to learn means I won't sympathize if it gets him screwed over again.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I thought that just meant "she don't need no man"?

  • paranoid android||

    Isn't the guy German? I think he might have a somewhat skewed baseline for such things.

  • ||

    Yeah, that's my thought as well.

  • Loki||

    +1 German scheisse video

  • Vulgar Madman||

    German chicks are super-crazy.

  • bob sacomano||

    Swedes are also cray. I was on a train in Denmark once and three separate single Swedish ladies were having teary meltdowns independent of each other in my car. I asked my Dutch travel companion what the deal was and he literally just laughed, rolled his eyes and said "Swedes."

  • Number.6||

    He shoulda listened to more Jimi Hendrix

  • Paul.||

    The only valid excuse for dealing with crazy is youth and inexperience, but if that's his excuse, he picked a doozy of a learning experience.

    the only thing i argue here (as I posted a few weeks ago) is there was a time when crazy bitches would just be something smart boys would leave alone. Now the crazy gets invited by senators to State of the Union addresses, and you become a paid victims' advocate.

    Even if they don't get invited to the SOTU, this new university policy of lower due-process standards is seriously hurting people.

  • Suicidy||

    Should just kill the progressives where we find them.

  • John||

    There is sexy like crazy sexy

  • ||

    Yeah, maybe to you, John, but I don't suffer from that...fetish. I like my chicks sane. Crazy is like kryptonite for me.

  • John||

    Only when I was young. Now I would not risk crazy

  • Invisible Finger||

    You did my mom and she's certifiable.

  • freedomlover||

    Rabbit stew anyone?

  • SimonD||

    The problem is that crazy always eventually becomes CRAZY, which is less sexy and more frightening.

  • Akira||

    As a man who has had a CRAZY ex-girlfriend pound on the door at 2 AM then swing a boxcutter when I answered it, I can vouch for that statement.

  • KDOG||

    Oh the trap that is crazy pussy. The problem is the 95 pct of the time when you aren't fucking.

  • Number 2||

    BLAMING THE VICTIM!!! FALSE ACCUSATION DENIER!!!!

  • Number 2||

    I am sick and tired of being forced to change how I live my life and "take responsibility" for whom I am fucking! The solution is to teach woman that they cannot make false accusations!

  • Loki||

    Nice one.

  • kinnath||

    Of particular importance is the fact that Sulkowicz transformed her rape allegation and subsequent activist efforts into an art project for Columbia course credit.

    Wrong on so many levels the mind boggles.

  • Invisible Finger||

    I think we can all agree with the Cook County judge: rape isn't the proper charge.

  • ||

    Oh, it gets better. He's suing them in federal court (because the receive federal funds?) and is suing the university, the trustees of the university, the university president and a professor.

  • NoVAHockey||

    Everybody got it right in the ass, from the chief on down

  • Chumby||

    Not everyone got fucked in the ass.

  • John||

    He is suing them in federal court because he is from a different state.

  • ||

    He's from Germany.

  • KDN||

    The 53rd state!

  • John||

    No. Diversity jurisdiction. Different U.S. state

  • ||

    What? He's not from a different state. He's from Germany.

  • Almanian!||

    Germany. Truly - a State of Mind.

  • Chumby||

    Wirst du meine Affe anfassen?

  • Suicidy||

    I hope he destroys as many of their lives as possible.

  • ZR||

    What the hell is wrong with you. Stop trying to seed comments well after the article has been posted to make it look like people here agree or don't call you out. No one deserves to die or be harmed physically over this incidence. I hope the man gets some money from the entities that harmed his money earning potential and his social reputation. If there is solid proof she lied then filling a false police report is available as well but that is it. Either sober up or stop trolling.

  • Private FUQ||

    You must be new here. Lurk for about 6 months and then try again.

  • Chumby||

    PF

    Don't think ZR has interacted with Mike Hihn yet...

  • Lesdouche||

    Nnnnnnnnoo, I'm with Suicidy on this one. Plaintiff's life was effectively destroyed, I'd sign off on some good, brutal revenge through the courts. Objection over-ruled.

  • wolf2600||

    The girl needs some jail time over the false accusations.

  • Rational Exuberance||

    Ancient laws suggest that if you accuse someone of a serious crime and the accusation is proven to be false, you should be subjected to the same punishment as the crime would have carried.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Freshman orientation should probably include information on detecting crazy.

  • ||

    "Ok, yesterday we covered gaydar and how to hone yours. Today we're going to get into 'craydar', which is the science of weeding out crazy people from your prospective banging pool."

  • Enough About Palin||

    "craydar"

    Love it!

  • ||

    'craydar'

    It's like passive sonar. You just sit on the headphones and listen for active attacks being launched, stuff exploding, and other cacophony in what should otherwise be fairly calm waters.

  • Don'tTreadOnMe||

    Beeeep.......beeeep......beeep..... beeeep...beeeep...beeep... beeep...beeep..beep...beeep. beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! Dang, fucked, again!

  • Walter Peck||

    It would scare them all off of the campus.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Also, how to set up a checking account, how to withdraw money that your parents wired you, how not to forget your ATM code, how not to lock your keys in the car, how to drive at night, how to make a sandwich, how to say "yes, please" and "no, thank you", how to fold clean laundry, how to wash dishes, how to unclog toilets....

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    For a view of the flip side

    “Students understand how rare it is for someone in this situation to lie,” Ouimette says. “More than anything else, recent coverage is helping people realize that everyone reacts to trauma differently, and there’s no correct way to do so.”

    Freshman Sarah Chiang shared a similar view — noting that although the nature of the events mean there is no way to be absolutely sure what happened, she supports Sulkowicz.

    Chiang pointed out that Nungesser, as the accused rapist, has more reason to twist his version of events than Sulkowicz, who Chiang noted has been subject to accusations that affect her reputation.

    “Overall, though, I think that most Columbia students find what she is doing extremely inspiring, and I’m glad that it’s sparking so much change in the university,” Chiang says.
  • robc||

    Calling back to the WEIRD thread from earlier today.

    How is this analytical?

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    No matter what the truth is, the frightening part is that so many of these young people believe that the end result is what really matters, that the sociological impact of the incident is the most important thing. The individuals are of no real concern.

  • Invisible Finger||

    You'd think the real takeaway is that all the stupid shit you text and put on facebook is saved and used against you.

    Then again, Tulpa never learns.

  • gaoxiaen||

    I'll have to remember to not accept ISIS' Facebook friend request.

  • bodenlosen Schweinerei||

    Chiang completely summed up the wrongness and absurdity of the "art" project, but of course, didn't even understand her own position:

    Sulkowicz, who Chiang noted has been subject to accusations that affect her reputation.

  • Suicidy||

    These kinds of feminizing itches need to be marginalized and kept down. When we don't, this kind of stupid bullshit happens. These people are absurd at best. Like that Sandra Fluke cunt.

  • Zeb||

    "Extremely inspiring"? Even if her whole story were true, that's a fucking crazy, deranged way to react to being raped. People can and do get past traumas like that. And the way to do that is not to make it the focus of your whole existence for several years.

  • ||

    I think that most Columbia students find what she is doing extremely inspiring

    Lying and fucking up someone's life because you're obsessed with them and then use them to further your own academic career is extremely inspiring. Got it. Hey, maybe someone can do it to you and you can find that inspiring too, Sarah!

  • Invisible Finger||

    I assume there are several Columbia students who want to become civil servants. Lying and fucking up people's lives are either their goal or their desired skill set.

  • MJGreen||

    I love the circular logic. If she lied, it's because she responds to trauma in that way, and so you can be sure that the trauma was real because she lied.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Note to Columbia boys: DO NOT fuck Sarah Chiang. In fact, don't even have any contact with her unless you have half a dozen sober witnesses.

    -jcr

  • ||

    unless you have half a dozen sober witnesses

    You can't bring witnesses to university proceedings. They might (!) save your ass from criminal prosecution, but they're witnesses only if the univ. 'investigator' wants to treat them as such. And if they're your witnesses, then chances are that they will not be called on, or their testimony will be discounted ... possibly to the point of being fully ignored.

  • Chumby||

    Bring two GoPros. One they can see and will require you to hand over and a hidden one that captures their objection to the proceedings being recorded as well as the actual proceedings.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Sounds like a concept for a new reality tv show.

  • Cloudbuster||

    "half a dozen sober witnesses" == "co-conspirators"

  • Dr. Reason||

    This is a very good explanation of what women experience after being raped and why they initially react out of shock and disbelief over what has happened to them:
    http://m.mic.com/articles/1094.....about-rape

  • Nick W B||

    "Students understand how rare it is for someone in this situation to lie"
    Ah, another believer in the "only 2% of rape claims are false" statistic.
    Anytime you hear a statistic that, upon reflection, describes something that really can't be knowable, its important to not take it at face value.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/.....appen.html

  • Ralph Gizzip||

    I think Ms Chiang has just labeled herself as "Crazy Bitch to be Avoided At All Costs."

  • Rational Exuberance||

    "Students understand how rare it is for someone in this situation to lie," Ouimette says. "More than anything else, recent coverage is helping people realize that everyone reacts to trauma differently, and there's no correct way to do so."

    Well, yes, there is a correct way to respond to rape: you go to the nearest police station or rape center immediately to gather physical evidence. If you fail to do that, you have not acted "correctly", in the sense that your legal case later will likely, and ought to, fall apart.

  • Illocust||

    It's amazing how freaking blind these women are. They throw hissy fits and set up safe spaces because Christine Sommers gives a speech that makes them feel 'unsafe', but they stand back and applaud while this chick leads a nation wide harassment campaign against this guy.

    I'm not like some here. I don't think the majority of these feminists are evil (some of them are raging sexists but not all), so I don't get how the parallels never occur to them. Is it literally just group think? Parrot what all your friends are saying without trying to apply the logic to the wider world? Of course, if it was that we wouldn't have it getting worse every year. They very clearly do apply the logic in more and more screwball ways, but they never seem to get to the point of applying it to non-in group members. Maybe the people coming up with the ideas are the sexists and the ones that parrot just want to belong (great, now I sound like a liberal talking about a non-liberal).

    What do ya'll think?

  • NoVAHockey||

    the logical end of identity politics

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    They throw hissy fits and set up safe spaces because Christine Sommers gives a speech that makes them feel 'unsafe', but they stand back and applaud while this chick leads a nation wide harassment campaign against this guy. ... What do ya'll think?

    I think that cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

  • tarran||

    It's an easy way of getting approval form other monkeys in the band.

    This is purely primate behavior. Instead of pooping in their hands and throwing it, they use those hands to type instead, which makes it hard for people to recognize what's happening.

  • Jon B||

    Well fuck me in the ass, this is an actual genius observation!

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Monkeys do a whole lot of things in public, including the stuff alluded to in the article.

  • PapayaSF||

    Politics is the mind-killer: ideology can blind people to reason and evidence.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Fear is the mind killer. It is the little death which brings total obliteration! The spice must flow! Long live the fighters! Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work! Sock it to me, kwisatz haderach!

    Actually such artless jealousy is politics, it fears itself in fearing to be spilt.

  • ManocentricMaleocracy||

    You gotta let that shit pass through you, leaving an empty space. Right in the ass.

  • ||

    I think that if people promulgate horrible ideas that fuck people's lives, they are pretty fucking scummy. They may not be "evil" per se, but they are fucking narcissitic scum at best and sociopaths at worst. If they can't draw these parallels, then they do not care. At all.

    I look at people's actions, I don't give a fuck what they say their intentions are. And if your actions cause horrible results, you're a fucking piece of shit.

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Bingo! If your careless driving kills or injures people, or causes damage, it doesn't matter whether you were choking on french fries, reprimanding the kids in the back seat, staring at the nude hitchhiker, drunk, stoned, or just lost in the ozone.

    If you shoot over a backstop, it doesn't matter whether you were aiming at a drone, stung by a bee, had a hangfire, your scope was misadjusted, or someone distracted you.

    I am really annoyed by all the different kinds of laws on drunk / stoned / distracted driving, all the different kinds of weapons called out in murder, all the different kinds of theft. Whether you picked my pocket or swiped my PIN from a card skimmer, I am out that much and want it back.

  • jay_dubya||

    so causing an unintentional auto accident that results in someones death, driving while drunk and causing an unintentional auto accident that results in someones death, and intentionally running somone over in order to murder them are all basically the same thing?

  • Mock-star||

    To the dead guy, yes.

  • Eggs Benedict Cumberbund||

    Yes negligence does not depend on your definition of sin.

  • Suicidy||

    I hope someone drives this bitch to a successful suicide attempt.

    Sorry that my comments are extra violent and aggressive today, but I've been drinking. And my patience for feminizing cuntitude is at a minimum.

    Seriously, I hope this bitch dies horribly.

  • MC Guru||

    Why the bile? Why WISH for a bad outcome for anybody? Why not instead wish that she came to her senses, honestly recanted everything, and accepted judgment for her tramsgressions?

    Yeah it is not realistic or likely, but this a better outcome than her (or anybody) being driven to suicide. So why wish not wish for it instead?

  • Don'tTreadOnMe||

    While it would be great if she got a fucking clue, it's not likely given an infinity of time. While I would not wish an untimely death upon her, I would wish great pain and suffering for the misery she has caused.

  • Lesdouche||

    She's essentially murdered a life, in a figurative sense. For the rest of his life, he will always be Google-able; when he has kids, other parents can find this out; co-workers; future partners in love and business, and the friends and families of them. The whispering he hears when walking into a room will never end. God forbid he chooses a life in education. This, and child molestation, basically end you just with an accusation.

    So... I don't think it's shocking to hope that she takes herself out before she "kills" again.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

  • John C. Randolph||

    I don't think the majority of these feminists are evil

    Oh, I'm sure that some of the boys in the Sturmabteilung actually believed the Jews were being shipped off to Madagascar.

    -jcr

  • MC Guru||

    You're thinking of the SS, not the SA. The SA no longer existed at that point

  • Chumby||

    And I'm not sure there was a single ignorant member of the Einsatzgruppen.

  • ||

    I read this really interesting blog post the other day.
    http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/06/.....-life.html

    The tangential relationship to this issue is that some people are completely driven by the need to be socially approved of and accepted, and that leads them to be very judgy and conformist. IMO, this is an apt description of most progressives I have met. Extremely judgy conformist people who let their need for social approval completely determine how they behave.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Yeah, so conformist, they'll have to dye their hair purple, cover their face with jewelry, and get 99 tattoos everywhere just to "fit in".

  • Raston Bot||

    Initial reports claimed there was another girl with a similar claim against him so I made the mistake of believing mattress girl. Turns out the "similar" experience involved him trying to drunk kiss someone during a party.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Turns out the "similar" experience involved him trying to drunk kiss someone during a party.

    Where did he try to drunkenly kiss her? If "on the ass," then I sense a trend!

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    The only ass you should kiss is your professors. Whether you're drunk or not depends on the professor.

  • SFC B||

    I think it was in the Cathy Young piece where it was discussed that the two other claims against this guy were both made after the women making the complaints had spoke with Mattress Girl, and the complaints boiled down to "he put a move on them at a party". Both of the complaints were dismissed by the university, and one of them was basically impossible (Nungasser was not at the party in question or something).

  • Marshal||

    One of the other events was a drunken kiss at a party. The other girl decided she was raped because Paul told her she couldn't be his girlfriend unless the relationship included sex. A year or two after the relationship ended she decided this constituted being pressured into sex and was therefore rape.

  • Paul.||

    She became something of a spokesperson for rape victims, and was even invited to attend the State of the Union address with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-New York).

    There are great rewards for the crazy that didn't previously exist.

  • Warrren||

    Yeah, his future may be ruined but she can leverage this into a lifetime of being a professional victim.

  • Warrren||

    On the other hand his future might not be ruined. There likely are employers out there who would hire him just to spite the SJW platoons. If he had the skills they needed of course.

  • Paul.||

    Well, there's always law enforcement.

    *ducks*

  • ||

    Incentives matter, Paul. And the incentives created by pure identity politics are horrible.

  • Zeb||

    So, we should expect a statement from Gillibrand repudiating her earlier association with her?

    Yeah, I know.

  • Paul.||

    I was actually wondering by Nungesser didn't name Gillibrand in the suit.

  • Zeb||

    Something about congressional immunity or something?

  • Paul.||

    Oh god yeah, I forgot about that.

  • Jumbie||

    Gillibrand never mentioned his name.

  • Paul.||

    Sulkowitcz mentioned the shit out of his name and she's not mentioned either.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    those in the media who uncritically re-reported Sulkowicz’s claims and gave credence to her antics should be feeling rather ashamed of themselves.

    Yeah. I'll be right here, holding my breath, waiting.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "Ashamed"? The word they were looking for was "proud".

    I'm sure all the tentacles of the Progressive Theocracy were proud for the part they played in lynching a young man. They're *all the more proud*, and *all the more satisfied* because the story was a lie.

    When your goal is power, screwing your enemies with lies is so much more satisfying than screwing them with the truth. Screwing people with lies shows much more power and dominance than screwing them with any *actual* crimes they might have committed. The more absurd and obvious the lie, the better.

    Ideally, they'd prefer to destroy lives randomly, without any warning or pretense of rationalization.

    Next year.

  • Chumby||

    Exactly. Even if the SJWs capitulate on this particular sitiation they will in the same breath spout the one out of five fake statistic.

  • Paul.||

    But Nungesser’s lawsuit isn’t against Sulkowicz

    Let's be real here. Sulkowicz doesn't have any money.

  • John||

    And she never said it was him by name. It was the university that did that

  • Paul.||

    I'm not saying he doesn't have a case. Especially when considering the faculty's support of her project.

  • John||

    I don't think he has one against her.

  • Paul.||

    I'm no lawyer (or Doctor), but I don't really see how he wouldn't have a case against the very person who fabricated the facts and created the false report.

    Had there been no Sulkowicz, this situation didn't exist.

  • gaoxiaen||

    Afraid to type IANAL?

  • LarryA||

    Insanity defense? ;-)

  • ||

    A lawyer will not take a contingency case against someone with no assets.

  • Eggs Benedict Cumberbund||

    Well he did fuck her in the ass, probably multiple times. Maybe that was payment enough.

  • R C Dean||

    And she never said it was him by name.

    She damn sure told somebody, and probably a lot of somebodies, his name. Columbia got his name from her, after all, didn't they? And no telling who else she told.

    And that's all it takes, for libel/slander purposes. That you libel/slander someone to one other person.

    So, there are probably strategic reasons why she's not named, but its not because she never said it was him by name.

  • Paul.||

    So, there are probably strategic reasons why she's not named

    This is what I suspect. His name was definitely uttered by her probably very far and wide.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    So, there are probably strategic reasons why she's not named, but its not because she never said it was him by name

    I suspect it's to prevent her from martyring herself anymore than she already is/will. By leaving her out of the lawsuit, she's smeared by implication rather than by the letter of the law, and any remarks she makes to the press from here on out are going to be used in court against the university.

    Also, as pointed out above, he has to go through federal court because he's not a US citizen. Bringing a defamation suit against her doesn't accomplish anything, but hitting the university for it could produce some tangible results.

  • Marshal||

    If by "she" you mean Sulkowicz she gave his name to the Columbia student newspaper, Columbia activist groups, and other media outlets.

  • Suicidy||

    I would love to see each and every one of these 'colleges' , tha are now nothing more than factories turning out an assembly line of neo communists, completely broken and put out of business. In fact, I would love to see the rise of a new era of McCarthyism far. Ore aggressive than the progressive scum ever imagined.

  • John||

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/201.....r-journey/

    So does the fact that I find this story disturbing to the point of disgust mean I am not sufficiently gay affirming?

  • Zeb||

    No. Just that you are too easily disgusted. I'm pretty skeptical about transgendering your young child. But I know nothing about these people and it's none of my business. For all I know it is the best thing for that particular kid.

  • Sudden||

    But one child psychiatrist told WBZ-TV that making a transgender diagnosis this early might actually put the youngster on an irreversible course — and at the same time, could mask other emotional issues hiding in the mix.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, it doesn't seem like a good move at that age. The mind has a lot of developing to do. Until people figure out more about how transgender actually works anyway.

    I'm convinced that trangenderism or gender dysphoria is a legitimate thing and I'm all for making reasonable accommodations for such people. But I would think it would be wise to avoid anything too drastic before some level of sexual maturity is reached. Sometimes kids just have weird phases. And some parent project too much onto their kids.

  • paranoid android||

    I'm inclined to agree, although my understanding is that if the kid really is trans, any treatment (ranging from hormones to just socializing them differently) is going to be much more effective if started early. I'm no expert on children by any means, but I agree that 5 strikes me as too young--11 or 12, right on the cusp of puberty, is probably a safer starting point.

  • ||

    Who knows, maybe the kid will decide he's a girl after all later on. Why not let the kid be themselves and make up their own mind. It's not like they are giving him a sex change. They're just letting him dress like a boy and play with "boy" toys.

  • ||

    Trans != gay, so no?

  • John||

    Good point. You are the best

  • Sudden||

    No. It means you're sane.

    This world is unfuckingbelievable.

    Stop this planet and let me off.

  • Suicidy||

    The parents, and everyone else involved, needs to be executed. Goddamn that is some sick fucking shit.

    Urge to kill........rising!

  • Nick W B||

    Not the first time this has happened.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....-1.1380731

    I'm somewhat skeptical that prepubescent kids can accurately be labeled as transgender. But maybe thats just me being some weird sort of bigot for which I'm sure someone has come up with a term for.

  • Enough About Palin||

    (she texted him “fuck me in the butt”).

    I propose that her name be changed from Mattress Girl to Butt Girl.

    Can I get a second?

  • Warrren||

    #2!

  • NoVAHockey||

    we know what you think --- i'm away for awhile and it's EAP and an anal thread.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    No. Heather Hart still lives!

    I think.

  • John||

    No she is "Fuck me in the butt girl "

  • Sudden||

    Sodomy Soiled Mattress Girl

    Also a band good name

  • Loki||

    How about "the Pele of anal"?

  • Suicidy||

    Reminds me of the classic film 'King Tongue Versus Anal Woman'. A story for the ages.

  • Paul.||

    I also propose getting falsely accused of rape via escalation of major, shoddy news stories now be called 'getting Stoned'.

  • Warrren||

    Everybody must get Stoned?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Warrren||

    Jesus.

  • Illocust||

    I prefer getting Jackied. It ties it more closely to the instigator of the event, and is less confusing.

  • Paul.||

    Doesn't have the punch. But you're on to something...

    Getting Jackied Off could work.

  • Suicidy||

    You 'beat' me to it.

  • ||

    Getting Sulkowiczed is what, too hard to pronounce? Come on, it just rolls off the tongue!

  • MarkLastname||

    I'd suggest 'getting Duked,' but that could be too easilyconfused with getting shat upon.

  • bacon-magic||

    Raping Stone?

  • GR8IPAZ||

    His dad apparently never had the talk with him.

    "Never fuck crazy."

    Paul was a neglected son.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Paul.||

    Gladden, 63, makes about $11 an hour, and takes home about $360 a week. But he said he gives a lot of it to his children and grandchildren, who have their own financial troubles.

    Ah, the money shot.

  • Invisible Finger||

    How can he take home $360 a week if he's homeless?

  • Suicidy||

    That's why he gives it away. The money can t make it home.

  • MarkLastname||

    I could live on $19,000 per year, so I don't feel sorry for the guy.

  • LarryA||

    In D.C?

  • Private FUQ||

    He's not chained to D.C.

  • blcartwright||

    None of his kids have a spare bedroom, or even a couch in the living room?

  • Loki||

    With each new development, this story begins to look more and more like a Rolling Stone job.

    It's worse actually. In the Rolling Stone/ UVa bullshit story they never identified the actual identity of "Jackie's" alleged rapists. It seems mattress girl here deliberately and knowingly ruined this guy's life, and the university fully supported her in her smear campaign. Personally I hope he takes them to the cleaners. I hope Columbia University ends up having to close its doors and their entire endowment gets transferred to him (won't happen, but a guy can dream).

  • Sudden||

    Columbia also did produce the "journalist" that wrote the Rolling Stone story. That place needs to shut down yesterday.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "but a guy can dream"

    No dreams for penises.

    Penises are EVIL! Penises are EVIL! Penises are EVIL!

  • Free Society||

    A "rolling stone job" should be the name of a sex act where the man thinks he's going to get a blowjob, but in reality he just gets his dick chewed off.

  • Suicidy||

    $ 20 million can soothe a LOT of pain. And get you plenty of chicks who do want you want and don't start a bunch of shit later.

  • ||

    bottom line: this lying whore wasn't raped.

  • Suicidy||

    I hope she runs afoul of a real rapist. An specially violent one that carves her up like the little piggy she truly is.

  • buybuydandavis||

    " In adherence to Columbia’s Confidentiality Policy, he did not discuss any of the investigations with any of his classmates. Yet Emma did the exact opposite, gaining support from classmates, professors, the administration, and President Bollinger. Emma has not faced any consequences for breaching the confidentiality policy."

    Rules apply to penises, not vaginas.

  • Free Society||

    Of particular importance is the fact that Sulkowicz transformed her rape allegation and subsequent activist efforts into an art project for Columbia course credit.

    Life Evil cuntbaggery imitating art?

  • rudehost||

    Am I the only one who thinks the subsequent exchanges between the two completely destroys her story? I don't buy this "everyone reacts differently" nonsense. Are we really going down the path that what people put in writing is not "real" evidence? By that standard there is no evidence Robert Durst killed anybody. Everyone reacts differently to reality TV after all.

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    There is plenty of evidence of their friendship, but even wives have the right to say "No".

    But she lied about so much else. She has zero credibility on that one particular incident.

  • rudehost||

    Of course and I am not saying their previous relationship means she wasn't raped but I do think her subsequent behavior is a rather strong indication that her story is false. It is terribly convenient to excuse any exculpatory evidence by claiming anything she might do after the alleged incident is irrelevant to the truth of her accusation.

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    You're right; I am guilty of thinko miscomprehension there, only thinking of the pre-rape communications. Her post-rape behavior is entirely inconsistent with having been raped.

  • rudehost||

    Rape apologist!

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Apology-apologist!

  • rudehost||

    rape apology apologist times infinity squared.

  • Lesdouche||

    Rapology accepted.

  • Dr. Reason||

    Being raped by a close friend is shocking and devastating. Many women go into shock and denial immediately afterwards, not wanting to believe what just happened to them by someone they trusted. To initially carry on acting like it didn't happen is not at all a surprising reaction to rape and betrayal by someone you considered a trusted friend. That is totally understandable and not at all an unusual initial reaction to being raped by someone you trusted. It can take time for the shock and denial to wear off enough to begin to accept the assault for what it is and to be ready to confront the situation.

  • Dr. Reason||

    This article explains her reaction very well: http://m.mic.com/articles/1094.....about-rape

  • Nick W B||

    That's a feel good article with claims of likely bogus statistics that are backed by links to more feel good articles. I tried going down the link train to see the origin of the 95% of rapes are not reported (which clearly should be an unknowable statistic; we can't know how many rapes are unreported because, well, they go unreported), and that link went to an ACLU story talking about a blog entry about the "new statistic". The link to that blog entry was a 404. Excellent journalism mic.com.

    Does the fact that that she continued being friends with him after this "attack" prove she wasn't raped? No. But its sure more evidence than she has presented that she was raped. All she has is her statements made months after the event. I'm sorry, I put more weight in what she said right after the event. Could trauma have affected her ability to act normally? Sure, I guess its possible. But would months of time between the event and her first claim that she was raped cloud her memory? Absolutely. The human brain actually kinda sucks at remembering things. Without physical evidence supporting her memories, they can't be taken at face value.

  • Matt J||

    So ... accusation is truth, and any and all words and actions appearing to show otherwise are proof of trauma, which in turn is proof the accusation is true. That's as efficient an understanding of justice as anything Stalin could have devised.

    Why then even bother investigating anything that occurs between men and women? If the only proof that could ever trump a woman's word would be a video camera containing clear, unambiguous, complete footage, just lock the guy away for 20 years every time, problem solved.

  • Fabi||

    I'm an outlier when it comes to defending the cray-cray. And while I adhere to the crazy/hot scale, I want them right on the line: 9/9, 10/10.

    There's nothing like it, and I'm neither young nor inexperienced. And it's not just the crazy sex, anal, gagging, threesomes, coke-fueled orgies, et cetera. It's the day-to-day living on the edge - ya never know what the dawn brings.

  • Chumby||

    You must think of burning man the way others think of visiting an old folks home.

  • Cloudbuster||

    Til one day dawn never comes. The cops find your charred corpse in your burned bed.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Ya never no when two consenting adults will play chess with actual chess pieces. Without protection. Eew, mate in three moves, baby. Oh yeah.

  • jdgalt||

    I hope he collects more money than the university is getting bribed for complying with DOE's letter demanding these outrageous policies. Because that's probably the only thing that will stop them.

  • kayp||

    Gods I hate this kind of story. At the risk of giving support to the “she was asking for it” crowd, I can agree that there are a FEW young females who are capable of this kind of behavior. When I was in high school in the 60s, my best friend phoned me three weekends running saying that her boyfriend had raped her. When I urged her to go to the police, she said, “but I love him” - and kept dating him. I later came to the conclusion that she might have been defending her self image against the fact that she did not just say No, get up and leave but continued to let things go further bit by bit.

    We need to tell young women IF YOU ARE RAPED you need to get an examination and photographs immediately. If this does not happen it makes prosecution more difficult -- and leaves the guy free to continue aggressing against other women. Some people view this as a shaming stance, I just think of it as truth. (And don’t keep sending him friendly notes! Gods I hate this kind of story).

  • PapayaSF||

    +1

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    There you go, blaming the victim again. If your crazy scheme were to be applied to other crime, it's almost as if you expect burglary victims to allow cops to dust for fingerprints, or embezzlement victims to report the name of the accountant.

  • ||

    This sounds like the beginnings of an abusive relationship to me. There are lots of girls with low self esteem who will stay with an abusive man because they convince themselves they love him or need him.

  • Suicidy||

    And they actually like the fucking.

  • Chumby||

    +1 Better Man

    Talking to herself there's no one else that needs to know...

  • Dr. Reason||

    You are right on! We live in a culture where men feel justified to rape, and know they can get away with it. Women are powerless against it because they have no recourse. Any attempt to report it or get justice just backfires, like it has for Emma. I read the lawsuit and it clearly takes FB messages out of context. "Fuck me in the butt" is slang for expressing surprise or dismay. Notice they didn't include the messages prior to that statement -- totally and inexcusably taken out of context!

  • R C Dean||

    Man, this is one of the most pitch-perfect proggy SJW parodies ever posted here. Very well played, Doc.

  • Nick W B||

    "We live in a culture where men feel justified to rape"
    No we don't. As a man, I can assure you, I absolutely don't feel justified to rape.

  • Matt J||

    "Women are powerless against it because they have no recourse. Any attempt to report it or get justice just backfires..."

    Times have changed, big time. Here's a good primer: http://www.slate.com/articles/.....forts.html

  • ManocentricMaleocracy||

    Kudos on perfecting your impersonation of a mongoloid progressive!

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Can't shake off the feeling that choosing not to live as a hermit will lead to an abusive relationship.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Can't shake off the feeling that choosing not to live as a hermit will lead to an abusive relationship.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Of course, hermits could drive themselves mad as well.

  • R C Dean||

    she might have been defending her self image against the fact that she did not just say No,

    So, not raped.

  • jdgalt||

    More like, "If you still want to send him friendly notes, then it wasn't really rape, was it?"

  • Free Society||

    Reply from Matress Girl, published on this Jezebel article.

    I think it’s ridiculous that Paul would sue not only the school but one of my past professors for allowing me to make an art piece. It’s ridiculous that he would read it as a ‘bullying strategy,’ especially given his continued public attempts to smear my reputation, when really it’s just an artistic expression of the personal trauma I’ve experienced at Columbia. If artists are not allowed to make art that reflect on our experiences, then how are we to heal?
  • ||

    Wonder if she'll be called as a witness. Would be nice to see Nungesser's attorney tear her apart during examination but the jury might not like that. Wonder if Columbia will try to blame her for all this?

  • Free Society||

    Wonder if Columbia will try to blame her for all this?

    I'll just assume you're joking.

  • Res ipsa loquitur||

    Columbia will never let it get that far.

  • Slocum||

    It will disappear down a black hole. Columbia will write him a check for a large, undisclosed amount with the condition that the terms of the settlement remain secret and he agrees never to discuss the case again in public.

  • Res ipsa loquitur||

    Columbia will never let it get that far.

  • jdgalt||

    He can and should. This is no longer a rape case, where the shield law applies, but a defamation case.

  • ||

    Oh my God.

    She's fucking insane AND a cunt.

  • ||

    And...

    How DARE HE defend himself?

    THE NERVE! IT WAS ART!

    Cunt.

  • Suicidy||

    Heal? Better she should die.

  • Pete H.||

    (y) 101% agreed

  • PapayaSF||

    "Libel and slander are OK if you call them 'art'!"

  • OldMexican||

    But taken together, the messages she continued to send him even after he allegedly attacked her [...] certainly look bad for her.


    Well, I guess that some rape allegations are demonstrably false after all. Isn't that right, American Socialist?

  • paranoid android||

    It's just adorable watching him pretend he's witty and clever, like a dog waiting for a pat on the head and a treat for taking a dump on the carpet.

  • OldMexican||

    If anybody is interested, this is my answer to American Stolid's non sequitur:


    Re: American Stolid,


    So if an asshole like ann coulter comes to campus and gets treated rudely by people who know an asshole when they see one that's a violation of the 1st amendment?


    I am still surprised by how many little red Marxians are also the direct result of the Amerikan Pulbic Skool Seistem Dat Teeches Kudz To Red and Writ. There was clearly a comma missing in your weird, unhinged question.


    Treating someone rudely is something people who are rude, unpolished or boorish do. I do not know for a fact that Ann Coulter is an asshole. That is not what I'm talking about nor am I talking about people being rude, unkind and boorish. I am talking about a group of little red Marxians pressuring the school to stop a person from speaking to a different group of people. Little red Marxians can always refrain themselves from listening to someone they find objectionable but they have no right to make decisions for others.

  • Agent Cupcake||

    I just read the lawsuit. He has Columbia et al dead to rights. I hope the payout is in the scores of millions.

  • XM||

    "Nazi international student from Germany trolls his helpless rape victim by suing powerless university that receives no funding from the government, like none at all. Also, American beer scientifically proven to be better than German beer."

    Now that's better.

  • John C. Randolph||

    after the alleged incident

    That's probably why the cops and the DA didn't pursue it, and it's also why I'm convinced that Sulkowicz is your basic bunny-boiler.

    -jcr

  • R C Dean||

    bunny-boiler

    Consider that stolen.

  • John C. Randolph||

    It's a pretty common term for batshit insane ex-girlfriend, ever since Fatal Attraction.

    -jcr

  • The Bad Captain Madly||

    The longer I live, the more convinced I become that our Ignorant, Benighted ancestors had a much more accurate understanding of reality than our Enlightened and Tolerant moderns could ever hope to achieve.

  • Sudden||

    Indeed.

    WRT the 5 year old tranny kid story John linked to above:

    I can link you to five stories a day about parents arrrested or having their kids taken from them by CPS for allowing 8 year old johnny to walk a half mile down the street to a park unaccompanied by a parent. but you can acquiesce to your five year old's make believe world and be a news story of hope and love.

    Thousands of generations of humanity that came before us would stop breeding if they knew what utter nonsense this species would turn out to be.

  • Puddin' Stick||

    Slavery apologist!

    /prog

  • Sudden||

    Alt-text suggestion:

    SLUT

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    When she's inevitably institutionalized, she can still blame her victim. So she's got that going for her.

  • bassjoe||

    I don't understand why she's not being sued personally. This is defamation per se (which she has parlayed into minor celebrity status and possibly earned her some money he can garnish). Do New York's laws make this difficult?

  • ||

    No lawyer will take that on contingency when the defendant has no assets.

  • bassjoe||

    In addition to the deep pockets being sued.

  • R C Dean||

    Strategic.

    They may be thinking she can still be turned into a non-hostile witness against the school. Seems unlikely, but if she has to choose between getting hung with a garnishment order that will follow her the rest of her life, and considering how she might testify, well . . . .

  • Nick W B||

    IANAL, but my guess is that in suing her he would have to prove the rape did not exist. Her claims that it occurred may be suspect, but that is a long way from proving it didn't happen. On the other hand, he can easily prove the gender based harassment he received deprived him of access to an education.
    Ironically, he would then be suing them under Title IX.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    URANAL? OR RU FULLFRONTAL?

  • jdgalt||

    Depends on the state. In California, if someone accuses you of a felony but no court has convicted you of it, you automatically win your defamation case -- the accuser can't even rebut.

  • Alan@.4||

    Strikes me that ANYONE who takes media's output, on virtually anything, without a healthy helping of salt, the dangers of high blood pressure attributable to consumption of salt notwithstanding, is of questionable mental competence.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    I have two hopes out of this trial:

    1. Kirsten Gillibrand gets called as a witness
    2. Mr. Nungesser walks away owning a large portion of Colombia's Upper Manhattan real estate portfolio.

  • DoomsterDiver||

    Writer for Washington Examiner is Ashe Schow. Is this somehow linked to the art project, or just another random act of cruelty?

  • edcoast||

    I know this thread has aged, but I'm now referring to it as "Suicidy's Greatest Hits"

  • JohnGalt1976||

    It's official our country is screwed. Did anyone else see the text messages back and forth from these COLUMBIA students? Good luck Paul, I'd sue Emma and her family as well!

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    There'll be the breaking of the ancient
    western code
    Your private life will suddenly explode
    There'll be phantoms
    There'll be fires on the road
    and the white man dancing
    You'll see a woman
    hanging upside down
    her features covered by her fallen gown
    and all the lousy little poets
    coming round
    tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
    and the white man dancin'

  • Jayburd||

    "Student Accused of Rape By 'Mattress Girl' Sues Columbia U., Publishes Dozens of Damning Texts"
    Look on the bright side Columbia. He could'a opened up with an a-k from the clock tower. That mattress would come in handy in that scenario.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Doubt a mattress could stop a bullet.

  • ||

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  • Dr. Reason||

    "Fuck me in the butt" is a very common slang expression of surprise, meaning the same as "No way!" Only an idiot or socially impaired person would not know that.

    Nungessor is just a manipulative rapist who first got away with rape and is now trying to screw the University too!

  • Pi Guy||

    ^ That's some weapons-grade deep there

  • R C Dean||

    I'm convinced Doc is a high-grade parodist, myself.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Give me back my broken night
    my mirrored room, my secret life
    it's lonely here,
    there's no one left to torture
    Give me absolute control
    over every living soul
    And lie beside me, baby,
    that's an order!
    Give me crack and anal sex
    Take the only tree that's left
    and stuff it up the hole
    in your culture
    Give me back the Berlin wall
    give me Stalin and St Paul
    I've seen the future, brother:
    it is murder.

  • Pete H.||

    Women like her need to be sent to prison for minimum the time her victim, nungesser would have spent into prison !

    but since that will never ever happen, since women are fascists, men have to unite, find her, catch her and then punish her to EVER get any justice for men, boys and children.

    MEN UNITE AND FIGHT BACK THE FASCIST PARASITE INHUMANE GENDER !

  • MarkLastname||

    Haha, ok, you go do that Pete.

  • sgreffenius||

    Organizers of the campaign to draw attention to campus rape are certainly picking the wrong people to speak for them. Jackie and Emma don't look like good poster people.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Nonsense, they look like the future political majority. Not a "silent majority" to be sure. A closed mouth gathers no feet. Besides, toe sucking just results in "athlete's mouth".

  • Edwin||

    //None of that proves one way or another whether Sulkowicz consented to sex on the evening that he allegedly raped her

    Yes, it does. That's exactly what it does. It proves he did not rape her

    //It’s possible that Sulkowicz withdrew her consent and Nungesser continued—in brutal, violent fashion.

    Which wouldn't exactly be rape. It isn't reasonable to expect a guy (or a girl) to stop in the middle of thrusting/grinding. You better believe if I wanted to try gay sex (yeah yeah yeah, commence with the jokes) I wouldn't get all shocked if a dude just kept going even if it hurt me. Comes with the territory.

    Not to mention the huge doubt aspect. If the existence of something is extremely specious, the only reasonable way to treat it is as though it doesn't exist. Aren't these SJW's the same people that are all hardcore about the scientific method, and lambast theists as being idiots?

  • Edwin||

    OT, but FWIW,

    I have been planning for a long time on getting a camera to put in my apartment

    I'll call it my "Kobe Bryant camera"

    of course it would be somewhat hidden from my female guests and if seen explained as that I used to have roommates who have stolen from me.

    every man should plan on doing this in this day and age and this culture

    My only question is how do I get one that's portable for when I go to HER place?

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Hey, you must be the William Baldwin character in Flatliners. All your "conquests" are going to haunt you when you die, you kinky swine.

  • REMant||

    The more the merrier. John Quincy Adams remarked: "There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Universities are not democracies. They're welfare queens.

  • Hugo S. Cunningham||

    It has been suggested that Nungesser has himself to blame somewhat, for choosing a mentally unstable person for a romantic relationship. Perhaps he was disadvantaged by being a foreigner, not having years of exposure to the differences between normal
    American behaviors and alarmingly odd American behaviors.

    As the truth about this episode gradually sinks in over the next few years, perhaps Sulkowicz will have cause to sue the Columbia professor who signed off on her mattress/stalking project, failing to warn her of permanently sullying her reputation in a very public way. Mentally ill students at Columbia deserve better protection than that.

  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Ah yes, "social justice" demands that people who are mentally ill (usually leftwingers, go figure) are to be treated like children by quasi-government institutions (University bureaucrats) or government. Meanwhile, dickheads who were all too eager to stick their dicks in crazy can seek financial windfalls whenever their indiscretions start to take a toll on their air of respectability. And there's a crazy Columbia professor involved in this? A pox on all these idiots.

  • Papplebeast||

    Did he choose four different mentally unstable sexual partners? That is the number of people who have accused him of rape.

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  • Sanjuro Tsubaki||

    Universities in this country are becoming a joke.

  • ManuelSDT||

    Do any real rapes even happen anymore? It seems like everything reported in the media is fake 100% of the time.

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  • Papplebeast||

    Nungesser has been accused of rape by four different people. Sulkowicz may or may not be telling the truth, but the probability that four different people made up rape accusations about him is incredibly small. The guy is probably a sexual predator, regardless of whether or not he is actually guilty in this particular case.

  • bassasaurusrex||

    "Why isn't he suing her?" Easy Answer: She is judgment proof (read: she is broke/you will get no money)

    Complicated Answer: at this point a defamation suit would be pretty difficult. Given the lack of eye witnesses and that she never got an 'official' rape kit done it would be hard to prove to a 'good enough' level of proof that she is defaming him. Which coincides with the 'Easy Answer'

    Conspiracy Theorist Answer: he is afraid that she is holding onto evidence and it will come out in a suit against her. Though, again, it is far more likely that they know there is nothing to gain from suing her other than some level of 'vindication' (which will cost several thousand dollars)

  • MSimon||

    Art Project:

    Take the picture of the girl walking with the mattress. And add the caption.

    This Is Not A Whore

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