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Campaigns/Elections

Election Vulnerability

Plus: measuring decline, tariffing Brazil, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 7.17.2026 9:30 AM

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Trump's stolen-election claims: "Great damage has been done to our country," said President Donald Trump last night in a special address to the country, addressing election vulnerabilities he believes exist. "Our elections were left vulnerable to being rigged and stolen, and the trust of the American people was lost. This cannot be allowed to continue."

China, in his words, carried out "the largest compromise of election data in history" starting with the 2020 election, allegedly gathering 220 million voter files "over a period of years." If true—which is a big if—this is a huge indictment of government data-security practices (not much else).

"U.S. intelligence and congressional officials have long known that China obtained voter data," counters The New York Times, which was "publicly available information often purchased by political campaigns. What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

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Trump also said we must fix issues with electronic voting so that "we can never watch a stolen election again." But it wasn't especially clear what, specifically, he was pointing to that had been proven to show outright manipulation of vote counts.

"If you look at voting today, it's in such bad shape in so many states," he continued. "And we are committing to fix it, and we are also committing to be working with those states and local jurisdictions to help them fix and patch known technical vulnerabilities before the midterm elections."

It looks a little bit like Trump is working to tend to the seeds of distrust in elections that he has long ago sown. But there's not much new evidence he can marshal to substantiate these claims.

Are we living through an era of measurement problems? "Millennials and Zoomers are not doing fine," writes Johann Kurtz on his Substack, Becoming Noble. "In fact, I think there have been structural changes to our economy and society which clearly explain why these cohorts are failing to move through the five pillars of a stable middle-class existence: education, stable employment, marriage, homeownership, children."

"What has happened is that previous generations were able to take advantage of highly valuable and productive social capital as well as their exploding financial capital to move through each of these life stages in a fiscally efficient manner," continues Kurtz. "Our current young, lacking access to this social capital, must engage in enormous outlays of purely financial capital in order to achieve the same levels of stability and accomplishment—capital that they do not have. We see this clearly in the data on schooling, homeownership, and family formation."

"On the surface it does seem as if the young are fine. Real median incomes are higher than they were for their parents at the same age, unemployment has spent most of the past decade at historic lows, and purchasing power has risen roughly 63 percent since 1973. Televisions, clothing, food, and air travel are cheaper than ever," argues Kurtz. "And yet this generation is also not marrying, not buying homes, not having children, and seem pretty miserable. I think we're clearly in the midst of a tremendous measurement failure."


Scenes from New York: The family of a tourist who was killed in a freak carriage accident in Central Park is calling on the city council to ban horse-drawn carriages. "Transport Workers Union Local 100, which represents horse-carriage drivers and owners, has for years fended off efforts to abolish the industry," reports The New York Times. "The horses are well cared for and doing the kind of work they were bred for, the union says, and it argues that ending the carriage rides would be devastating for the roughly 170 licensed drivers and would harm the animals as well."

As a rule of thumb: We don't need laws named after victims or laws passed in the wake of freak-accident deaths to try to prevent extremely rare accidents from happening. Losing your child is awful and tragic—I know a thing or two about that—but trying to squeeze every last bit of risk out of society, in favor of perfect, predictable safetyism is a fool's errand. It also, sadly, won't reanimate the dead. If only we humans had the power to do so.


QUICK HITS

  • "President Donald Trump announced a 25 percent tariff on goods from Brazil on Wednesday, the latest step in rebuilding U.S. trade barriers following the Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that invalidated his first try at erecting a shield around the economy," reports The Washington Post. "The president's trade chief, Jamieson Greer, recommended the move after a year-long investigation concluded Brazil had engaged in several 'unfair' trade practices. Greer said Brazil's digital trade and electronic payment systems, preferential tariffs, ethanol market, intellectual property protection and illegal deforestation all had hurt U.S. companies."
  • "Outside of stripping away the human component of asking another human to spend time together, Partiful also made parties less fun," writes @burntmilk on Substack. "There is no mystery or drama in knowing exactly who is going to be there and who is whose plus-one. The turnout is pretty much what you see when you open the event's page day-of. There is no secret for the host to hold.…A party is good when you're talking to strangers, and the best when strangers are rambling to you, a fleeting entity they can forget about. I want to interact with people without already having mentally processed their presence."
  • True:

Matt Levine: "If people are constantly going around tampering with reality to win bets, they will create glitches in reality, some of which will have bad consequences for ordinary people going about their day out in regular reality." https://t.co/9QRVVZIjo3

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  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    How ledtist activist groups use "charity" pass through to hide political donations.

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/charity-or-conduit-how-one-nonprofit-funds-its-own-advocacy-arm

    Just another way they hide foreign donations just like Act Blue was.

    1. Nelson   2 months ago

      JustTheNews? Yeah, that’s about your level of credibility.

  2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Gallego finally got Swallwelled. We knew it was coming.

    https://nypost.com/2026/07/16/us-news/sen-ruben-gallego-had-sexual-relationships-with-two-house-aides-sources-reveal-to-the-post/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      It won’t matter.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        He does have until 2028, but with the flood of these stories it may last.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          Keep hope alive?

  3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    If you were on the fence about going to watch race switching woke Odyssey, this cast rap video should shove you forcefully off the fence.

    https://x.com/ianmiles/status/2077766329390829659

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Oh, Holy Fuck.

      Race swapping, beauty destroying, trans-character insertion... *and* rich, white retards rapping? It's like they're stuck in 2020.

  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    I still remember the summer jeff tried pushing the term libertarian socialism. Democrats dont change ideas, they simply rebrand after failure. Again and again.

    The latest rebrand, already used by figures such as Newsome, us economic democracy. Which just describes communism.

    https://thefederalist.com/2026/07/15/democrats-turn-to-economic-democracy-and-you-already-know-what-they-mean/

    1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

      How about your most libertarian president saying he should revoke the licenses of ABC and NBC?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Where have I said he was libertarian sarc?

        And what was his exact comments sarc?

        1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

          ok... we have agreement that Trump is not a libertarian. It seems obvious, and it ain't much, but in this crowd any consensus should be celebrated.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            What is celebrated is he has done more things libertarians agree with than obama, biden, Bush dumdum.

            1. Nelson   2 months ago

              He really hasn’t. And he’s done more things, in more ways, more brazenly, that betray libertarian principles than any other President in history.

              Whataboutism can’t cover for his attacks on free speech, Constitutional Amendments, due process, and disdain for search and seizure laws. And that’s without the pointless and useless war that he is currently failing to win with his belief that if we break more things and kill more people we’ll eventually win.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            But Trump is still at least 100 times more libertarian than any Democrat. And 1,000,000 more than any DSA idiot.

            But you knew that.

            1. Zeb   2 months ago

              And 1,000,000 more than any DSA idiot.

              You could put any number you want in there. Multiplication by 0.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                Then does that make the choice obvious, even if unpalatable?

          3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

            Yes Trump is a moderate democrat that went GOP because the democrat went insane and delusionally have moved to the far left.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Also because elitist Democrats told Trump he was too uncouth.

              Trump's response: "Hold my Diet Coke"

    2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Yeah today communists say communism has never existed so they can pretend that communism never killed 100+ million people in the 20th century.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Also so they can do it "right" this time.

  5. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Rubio again reminds the ICC and leftists that the ICC has no power in the US.

    https://pjmedia.com/sarah-anderson/2026/07/13/rubio-to-icc-hands-off-the-united-states-were-shutting-you-down-n4954985

  6. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

    Former intelligence officials have said...

    Some remind me the last time former intelligence officials countered something Trump said. And the NYT pushed their claims.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Nobody needs 51 kinds of former intelligence officals.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Nobody needs the NYT. Except of course dimwitted progressives to provide daily confirmation bias.

    2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

      I would wonder if Trump said this just to provoke the news agencies to see if they would give his words the same focus as they did the Russian Collusion stories. Seems very close in concept, but the reaction of the media is, as predictable, the opposite when Trump says it.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Is their expression of TDS deliberate or reflexive?

  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    It was fun watching 2 corporate media news stations just ignore the speech last night. If they dont show it or look, it never happened.

    But the most mendacious news last night in CNN and MSNOW was them pre banking the newly released documents released last night, before they even saw it. Zero interest in journalism.

    CNN even referred to their prior reporting to debunk it after, despite the documents only being released yesterday, in their appeal to their "experts" who didnt even read the new information.

    The new documents are being read by right media, and already disturbing releases. There are multiple documents of the IC changing the actual conclusions of their analysts to push the cleanest election ever false narrative. Literally evidence of draft memos going from "evidence china did X" and being changed to "no evidence of china doing anything."

    Some of the evidence included china printing fake ballots since they had the voter files. Pretty stunning.

    Time yo end continuous mail in voting. Something even the Carter voting groups called the primary Avenue of vote fraud for decades.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      It's obvious that the DNC wants to suppress any truth about voter fraud or international influence in American elections. No matter what the media says. The entertaining piece is the leftists actual cheer the fraud.

      Voter ID is racist.
      Mail in ballots allows EVEYONE the opportunity to vote.
      Counting ballots for months after the general election tends to favor democrats, but they won't say why.

      This is parroted by all of the leftist media including social media.

      1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

        LOL you guys keep repeating the same dumb tired points shat out by your sore loser in chief. And yet you have no actual proof of fraud, just a bunch of pathetic and debunked garbage. And Americans aren't buying it.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I take no position on how much fraud had actually occurred or what effect it may have had on elections. But the Democrats' opposition to many obvious policies that would make fraud more difficult does seem worth noticing. Particularly when it comes to voter ID and mail-in ballots.

          1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

            yeah. this is me. the voter ID shit just makes me hate everyone.

            Voter ID seems super easy and logical and a super low non-intrusive hurdle to clear. you need an ID for any benefits. it's not like poor people lack them. The Dems are fucking retards for being so militantly opposed to the concept.

            But... there's also no credible evidence that there's enough ineligible voters voting to swing any remotely important election. Voter ID is an admirable fix to a problem that simply doesn't exist. I kind of wish we'd pass it so that MAGA tards would have to shut the fuck up, but i have little confidence that would work. they'd find some other nonsense to bitch about.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              There's no evidence people catwalk going by the evidence you snd democrats seemingly demand.

              2 elections being overturned the last few years isnt enough evidence? Oh. You three in the "important" qualifier. Usual dem dodge.

              Do you agree elections should have known votes cast totals days 1? Because we dont even have that.

              This is my problem with you leftists. You keep making claims of no evidence even while admitting there is no way to get the evidence and support democrats suing to stop any attempts at getting evidence.

              Completely dishonest.

              1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

                can you show me where i support democrats?

                i think i spend half the post calling them retards for opposing voter ID laws.

                that's what makes me a leftist!

              2. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

                to make it even more clear, since you clearly can't read well: I support voter ID laws, and i would vote to require ID to vote if it were up to me.

                But it's about as important and urgent to me as purchasing volcano insurance. that's why i'm not as crazy and mad about it as every under Trump's spell is. it's a nothingburger issue for us to have a big culture war about. and we are doing it just as they planned.

                1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

                  There's voter ID, which is reasonable, and then there's disenfranchising anyone who doesn't have a passport or birth certificate in their current name. Which is tens of millions of Americans, compared to negligible amounts of non-citizens who vote.

                  1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                    That is absolute bullshit and you know it.

                  2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

                    Yeah. If you can't adult to secure an ID maybe, as an adult, you shouldn't be voting either.

                    1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

                      Yeah, problem is, your state ID is not good enough for the SAVE Act. We should make tens of millions of Americans go back and have their birth certificates re-issued. And all before an election, which states can totally keep up with. Funny thing is, it's mostly trumptard tradwives who would be affected.

                  3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    How did we handle name changes for 100 years sarc? Stop watching maddow dumbfuck.

                  4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                    Here's a libertarian question: how stupid can people be and expect everything to be fine?

                2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                  Yes. A common refrain from democrats here, yet when any attempt to implement it they find a way to be against it. Common democrat tactic.

                  Do you support the audits on voter information to look for illegals voting? Yes or no. Because you demand that evidence as proof to claim there is no fraud.

                3. Zeb   2 months ago

                  Even if you don't think it will make a difference in outcomes, when half the country has serious doubts about election integrity, it's fairly important to do what can be done to close the gaps that could be avenues for fraudulent voting.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                    Here's the problem Zeb: At this point, the people who bleat about "serious doubts about election integrity" can't be given the benefit of the doubt anymore, because their claims are based on narratives and lies, not facts and reason. And to take their claims seriously would be to reward the liars. It goes something like this:

                    Trump and his minions create lies about the 2020 election.
                    Half the country believes them and get outraged.
                    They demand a "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist - a "solution" that would just so happen reward the liars.

                    So if the honest people now start negotiating over "solving the problem", they are essentially conceding half the field - that the entire campaign of lies was successful in creating a non-issue based on lies. It only emboldens the next demagogue to do the same thing again.

                    We see the same dynamic when it comes to the hysteria about "Sharia law". There is no impending imposition of Sharia law in this country but it doesn't stop a specific team from demagoguing the issue - in a way that just so happens to reward their brand of Christian nationalism.

                    Either we demand a discussion based on facts and reason and logic, and don't permit liars and demagogues to hijack the field and tilt the playing field in the direction of lies, or we simply give up and admit that the post-modernists were right - that reality really is created by social construction, there is no such thing as "objective reality" and that the way to achieve anything is through deception and fraud.

                    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                      Now do 2016, fucktard.

                    2. Zeb   2 months ago

                      Trump and some of the lawyers who caught his ear in 2020 certainly went overboard (where is that Kracken?), but that doesn't mean there aren't real problems with how we carry out elections. It is ridiculous that we can't get results by the morning after at the latest. And the explosion of voting by mail that started in 2020 is a huge avenue for potential fraud that is very hard to trace.

                    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      Now do 2016, fucktard.

                      No. Why don't you discuss the issue at hand, instead of resorting to some whataboutism? Is it too much for you to criticize Team Red on its own merits?

                      If you want to discuss the 2016 election, go right ahead. Elsewhere.

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      Trump and some of the lawyers who caught his ear in 2020 certainly went overboard (where is that Kracken?)

                      I'm sorry, even that is giving them too much credit. At this point, I believe a lot of them deliberately lied about supposed fraud in order to try to discredit the results and to pave the way for Trump to do some of the illegal and unconstitutional things that they were planning, like telling Pence to ignore the law and the constitution and just hand the presidency to Trump anyway. FFS, Trump was claiming "voter fraud" EVEN BEFORE ELECTION DAY.

                      They are not well-intentioned. They did not merely "go overboard". They were bad people with bad motives.

                    5. Zeb   2 months ago

                      Be that as it may, none of that is a good reason not to address the actual problems that exist.
                      And even if they are wrong or deluded, if half the electorate doesn't trust elections, that's a real problem. Calling them a bunch of stupid idiots isn't going to convince them. You seem to be a fan of democracy. Well, that's democracy: a bunch of poorly informed rubes making decisions on how things are run (or in the case of a republic like this one, who gets to run things).

                    6. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      Zeb, the only "actual problem" here are the liars, grifters and traitors who deliberately construct lies in order to undermine the election and to seize power for themselves. The correct solution to this problem is to tell the "rubes" (your word, not mine) that they are being lied to, used and manipulated for the benefit of someone else's agenda. And not just in some ordinary political way - oh, some politician lied about the tax rate or something! - but in a much more fundamental way, having to do with the integrity of the electoral process itself. Without that integrity, we cannot have a functioning republic, and the people who are trying to deliberately undermine it for the purposes of their own power are nothing short of traitors.

                      When one starts agreeing with the liars that there is some legitimate election problem along the lines of what they are describing, then one gives away the entire game. Of course the elections are not perfect, but there is no problem with our elections that necessitates something like the SAVE act, and the fact that there are traitors running around in positions of power who want to undermine elections themselves is a FAR bigger problem than whether some illegal immigrant may or may not have voted in Philadelphia in 2020.

                    7. Zeb   2 months ago

                      Well, I disagree. I think there are some big gaps that could allow for some hard to detect voter fraud. We shouldn't not address them because we don't like some of the people who support them. Not everyone who thinks there are problems is a Trump devotee who believes every stolen election theory. Your whole argument here seems to be ad hominem: the people who are pushing these policies are bad, so the policies are bad.

                    8. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      No, Zeb, that isn't what I'm saying. By all means let's address whatever REAL problems there are with voting. And by "REAL", I mean problems that are supported by facts, evidence and data. All of the data collected thus far support the conclusion that whatever problems there are with voting processes, they are relatively minor, and they are not systemic on a nationwide level - that is, different localities have different problems that require local solutions.

                      However, that millions of people believe in a false narrative about "stolen election" does not, IMO, itself justify validating the lie by then claiming "let's do something about the fake problems invented by liars". It DOES justify telling those millions of people "you've been lied to". That is not the same as "calling them stupid", in fact, it is the opposite - appealing to reason affirms their intellect and self-worth.

                      What are the specific problems, supported by facts and data (not by conjecture, conspiracy or vague anxiety) that you have with voting processes?

                  2. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

                    yes. that's why i keep restating that i am FOR voter ID laws. this isn't that hard.

                    Agreeing with Jesse on a single point is even more exhausting than arguing with him.

            2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

              It took approximately 45K ballots after midnight to erase Trump's lead and make Biden the winner by sunrise in many districts the day after the election in 2020.

              And of course, they knew how many they needed and then counted enough fake ballots to get Biden across the line.

              This happened in LA with the mayoral race.

            3. See.More   2 months ago

              [...] But... there's also no credible evidence that there's enough ineligible voters voting to swing any remotely important election[...]

              A lack of evidence is not evidence of a lack, especially when people refuse to, or are prevented from, searching for evidence.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                This is the tactic I accuse chicago dem of. Demand specific evidence while being against any means of getting said evidence.

                All leftists use this tactic.

            4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              I am similar to your position. I am fine with mandatory voter ID laws. Provided, that obtaining the ID isn't a stealth poll tax. It should be completely free to obtain the ID. If the proponents of these IDs want super-strict requirements for the IDs, like birth certificates and passports, then fine - obtaining those documents should be free as well. It should also be only a minimal amount of hassle to obtain those documents, such as filing out a simple form and sending it to your local election office, not having to navigate a multitude of bureaucracies across a half-dozen jurisdictions.

              But I seriously doubt that a large chunk of the "voter ID" crowd would be happy with that, because to a lot of them, they fundamentally don't view voting as a civil right, and if a person "can't be bothered to get off the couch" (meaning: has to spend hours and hours, and fill out forms and forms, and spend hundreds of dollars obtaining documents), then they don't deserve to vote. I have a HUGE problem with this crowd.

            5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

              “…,,a problem that simply doesn’t exist.”

              Lol. That explains the fierce resistance. Something, something, where there’s smoke….

              Not curious at all, eh tard? ……. Good boy.

            6. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              I keep hoping someone will define "fair share" so that once that is reached, leftists will shut up about people not paying it.

            7. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

              You live in fucking Cook County, if you can't see credible evidence of voter fraud you need to get a seeing eye dog.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Sarc doesnt even know new documents were declassified and released yesterday. Because he has zero interest in reality.

        3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          Actual DNC talking points -

          Fighting against Voter ID
          Keep mail in ballots
          Counting ballots for months after the general election

          Tell us how these three election tools help prevent fraud.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            You forgot, any audits are illegal.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Well, audits are "racist".

        4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          LOL indeed. We know fraud never happens because partisan cunts like you say so.

        5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          "...LOL..."

          Will you ever get to middle school, asswipe?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Does the short bus go to middle school?

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Some of the evidence included china printing fake ballots since they had the voter files. Pretty stunning.

      Documents posted by the White House Thursday night featured an internal F.B.I. memo made public more than a year ago, written in the run-up to the 2020 election and immediately met with skepticism from senior intelligence agents, suggesting that China planned to use fake IDs to meddle in the election.

      The September 2020 memo from an agent in the F.B.I.’s Albany, N.Y., field office described a claim by a source that China had hatched a plan to send thousands of fraudulent driver’s licenses to the United States, ostensibly for the purpose of casting ballots.

      According to the source, “China planned to use the fraudulent drivers licenses to account for tens of thousands of mail-in votes,” the document said.

      President Trump seemed to refer to the memo in his prime-time speech on Thursday night, though his description of the original allegation was sharply at odds with what the document said.

      “Raw intelligence obtained by the F.B.I. in 2020, yet buried by rogue bureaucrats, stated that Chinese activities even included an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots for Joe Biden,” the president said.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/16/us/politics/assessing-the-documents-fake-ids-from-china.html

      "Planned to" ... "claim by a source"?

      Then the jump to "Chinese activities even included an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots for Joe Biden"

      Summary: An anonymous source said China had a plan to make fake ID's in order to make fake ballots.

      Does this even seem sensible as a pragmatic plan for election fraud?

      ANd yeah, I know it's the NYT, but this stuff has all been publicly available for a year.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Dems who deny any and all election evidence and continue to claim 2020 was the cleanest ever say...

        Did you read the actual documents or just rushed to NYT to find your leftist narrative?

        I see your snippet doesnt actually post the memos. Others are. Did yoi have even a minimal amount of intellectual curiosity to figure out why?

        Continue to be the useful dem idiot cosplaying as an honest soldier qb.

        This is on par with NYT and the Goode video "analysis" or the NYT falling for the children shot by soldier xrays, you know bullets stopping in soft tissue with no bone impact on entry.

        Just dutifully pushing whatever narrative youre told to.

        1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

          You guys keep throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks and it's hilarious and pathetic.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And sarc jumps in as the other good little retard leftist.

            Did you take even a second to go read some of these files? No?

            You've chosen ignorance. Go grab another 40 sarc.

            Also amusing that the two leftist morons are skipping right over the IC changing findings for political purposes clearly in documents with edits shown. Two who pretend to be against government ignoring this fact. Because again, 2 useful leftist idiots.

            Keep sucking off the corrupt IC you two lol.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Sorry. Saying useful was probably hyperbole.

            2. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

              DEEEEP STAAAAAAATE. It's all a conspiracy! Health experts, law firms, economists, intelligence analysts, they're all against me! I'm the worst treated guy!

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Look at sarc go.

                Qb, come get your drunken boy.

              2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                Did RFK Jr give you explosive diarrhea yet??

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Please post the memo(s) that refutes my point.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            What is your point mike? Why didnt you answer my question on if you read the memos? We already know that answer, you rushed to the NYT to be told what narrative to push.

            That they dont have smoking guns? No signed affidavits feom china admitting to it? No video of the printers printing?

            Do you know how evidence works in intelligence? Rarely do they have direct video evidence. They recieve information on what foreign groups are doing from intel circles.

            Are you just doing the Dave Chappelle skit?

            What the fuck is wrong with you. Fo you have zero intellectual honesty?

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Please post the memo(s) that refutes my point.

        3. TZM   2 months ago

          Democrats? Trump’s DHS said that. And his AG said there was no evidence of widespread fraud.

      2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Which is the truth then?

        "According to the source, “China planned to use the fraudulent drivers licenses to account for tens of thousands of mail-in votes,” the document said."

        "U.S. intelligence and congressional officials have long known that China obtained voter data," counters The New York Times, which was "publicly available information often purchased by political campaigns. What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I don't know if either one, both or neither is true.

          The 1st one doesn't make sense to me as a feasible tactic. Enough fake ID's to change an election would set off red flags big time.

          The second one seems obvious, that China would take publicly available information and they would attempt to influence voters. That doesn't rule out that they'd try tampering too, but no evidence has been presented to show that.

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            The 1st one doesn't make sense to me as a feasible tactic. Enough fake ID's to change an election would set off red flags big time.

            This explains why the DNC resists ID's to vote.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        See, it's the response to comments like this one that makes it crystal clear that the people who claim "we just want investigations!" really don't, they just want to be validated.

        Here is what I could find on those memos:

        https://www.theblaze.com/news/vindicated-patels-fbi-uncovers-apparent-chinese-communist-plot-to-rig-2020-mail-in-vote-for-biden

        So apparently, about 20,000 fake driver's licenses, shipped from Chinese sources, were seized at Chicago O'Hare airport in the first half of 2020. That is the only real, tangible evidence that we have. The entire rest of the story is pure speculation based on unnamed "confidential informants". There is ZERO hard evidence that there was any connection whatsoever between the fake driver's licenses and any type of organized plot to create fake mail-in ballots. NONE. But, the "election integrity" crowd will take the claims of an unnamed confidential informant as gospel and claim that it is PROOF that the election was stolen. But, when the 2020 Georgia election is audited at least three times, they still won't believe it and demand even further audits and investigations until "the truth is uncovered".

        They don't want the truth. They don't really want honest investigations. They just want to be told that they are right, and they will grasp onto any straw of "evidence" that validates their feelings.

        It is pointless talking to these people in the realm of facts and reason and logic. They are impervious to it. They just want their feelz validated.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          81M votes for a candidate who didn't campaign. This motherfucker was so popular, the DNC forbade him from running for re-election against the same guy he "beat" four years earlier. And in true (D)emocratic fashion, the DNC put up a candidate who wasn't nominated through the primaries.

          Just think about it - If team blue hadn't cheated in 2020, Trump would be out of politics and the rest of us wouldn't have to hear the leftist whining. You guys could flood us with even more illegals, stop fossil fuel pipelines, seized X, have topless trannies in the Whitehouse, and destroyed Israel.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            Nothing you wrote refutes anything that I wrote above. You fundamentally will never believe Biden legitimately won in 2020, and your belief is based on lies and faith and feelz (including, in your case, hatred of the other team), not fact and reason and logic.

            No amount of facts or reason or logic can dissuade those who have a belief based on faith and emotion. So nothing will ever persuade you. No future investigation, no audits, no manual vote counting, no amount of strict voter ID will ever convince you.

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              The same can be said for you.

              Fact - The FBI found and seized 20,000 fake ID's.
              You are CONVINCED that this was every fake ID ever produced in China, shipped to the US, and the FBI found every last one of them. You don't have solid evidence to support this claim, nor do I have solid evidence to dispute it.
              What I have is reasonable suspicion. When the cops bust some drug smuggling operation that yields a bazillion kilos of meth, we both know it is only a fraction of the meth in America cuz there's tweakers everywhere. One bust doesn't mean jack shit.

              I have reasonable suspicion about the 2020 election and you are CONVINCED it was the cleanest election ever, no matter the circumstantial evidence or all of the strange coincidences. You guys still dismiss the TIME magazine articles showing the plan.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                You are CONVINCED that this was every fake ID ever produced in China

                I said nothing of the sort. For all I know, there might be 20 bazillion fake ID's out there. But I have no EVIDENCE for this claim. Besides, the actual claim being promoted here is that those 20,000 fake ID's (and who knows, maybe 20 bazillion more!) were a part of some organized voter fraud scheme. Where is the evidence for THIS claim, regardless of the number of fake ID's involved? The word of an anonymous "confidential informant". That's it. So the evidence for the claim is not absolutely zero, but it is incredibly weak. But, you will completely accept this very weak evidence for a claim, yet reject much stronger evidence which disproves widespread voter fraud. Why is that? It's not rational. It is because your belief is based on faith and emotion, not fact and reason.

        2. CountmontyC   2 months ago

          Are you okay with a foreign nation attempting to interfere with our elections to the tune of 20,000 votes? And that is assuming that the 20,000 drivers licenses were indeed the only ones that the foreign nation sent. We also know that China was trying to pay journalists to write negative stories about Trump to help Biden. Of course in 2016 it was a scandal that Russia bought a few Facebook ads.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Are you OK with the suspension of common sense it requires to believe this was the plan?

            The same people that say our elections aren't secure because no ID is required to vote think finding fake ID's is evidence of making fake ballots for Biden? How does that make sense? ID's wouldn't even be needed, right? Think about this.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      And nothing happened.....

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        From reports this is sounding like this release and declassification will be used to force states to clean up voter rolls. Despite that already being the law.

    4. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

      Right because all media is OBLIGED to be Trump's propaganda outlet. They should have to cancel their prime time shows to air a rambling rant of lies. Because he's so poor and censored, little guy. It's not as if he has his own platform and 30% of the country in his cult.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Maddow watcher thinks what?

        Trouble reading the criticism dumdum?

    5. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Same happened in Canada, China getting Trudeau and Liberals elected. Liberals hid findings and reported, no interference, it was not to the level that it would make a difference!! if only the media did their jobs instead of taking bribes and pushing lies.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        What? Isn't the very definition of modern "journalism" to pursue partisan activism and push narratives?

      2. Ersatz   2 months ago

        Trump (his big fat mouth and lack of self control over his own sense of amusement) got the liberals elected.. by denigrating them [Canada... mocking them] so that the only sane choice... opposition conservatives that share some of the same concerns with him.. became toxic (by association) to the largest voting blocks... ontarians and quebecers

  8. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    France might be too late with this effort...

    https://eclj.org/geopolitics/french-institutions/entrisme-des-freres-musulmans--a-quand-leur-interdiction-en-france-?lng=en

    AI summary:

    A bill criminalizing "entryism" in France was advanced after a report linked the Muslim Brotherhood to efforts to infiltrate public institutions, prompting new legislation aimed at protecting secular republican values.

    Overview of the Entryism Bill in France
    The French government is advancing legislation to criminalize "entryism," a term used to describe efforts by certain groups, particularly the Muslim Brotherhood, to infiltrate public institutions and influence them from within. This move follows a report that highlighted the Brotherhood's connections to various public bodies in France.

    Context and Implications
    The legislation is a response to concerns about Islamist infiltration in France, particularly linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, which reportedly controls numerous places of worship and community organizations. The bill aims to reinforce the secular nature of the French Republic and prevent any ideological agendas that could threaten national cohesion.

    The bill has sparked debate, with proponents arguing it is necessary for national security, while critics warn it may infringe on civil liberties and stigmatize Muslim communities. The legislation is currently moving through the parliamentary process for further discussion and approval.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      But mail-in voting would fix everything in France.

  9. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Good new everyone! The Palestinian Authority says it has stopped paying martyrs families. I mean, sure, it WAS doing that, but says it has stopped doing that, cross their hearts and hope you did Insha'Allah.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/heeding-us-demand-pa-releases-audit-that-purportedly-found-new-welfare-program-ended-pay-to-slay/ar-AA283DgC

    The Palestinian Authority-linked body that manages Ramallah’s new welfare program has released the summary of an independent audit that determined that the system is not incentivizing recipients involved in attacks against Israel.

    The PA announced last week what it said were the results of the Alvarez & Marsal audit, maintaining that it was further proof that it had properly implemented a reform to end a scheme that critics dubbed “pay-to-slay” because stipends were given to prisoners, including attackers, based on the length of their sentence.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      If tou cant trust PA to audit themselves, who can you trust?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Democrats?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          I already said PA.

    2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      The go fund me - bail funds, are still in play? Crimes occurring during mostly peaceful events deserve to be rewarded according to the delusional backwards ideologues democrats follow today.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

      They either ran out of money or bombs or volunteers.

  10. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Democracy" doesn't give them what they want, so in order to defend democracy, they have to ignore the election results.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/residents-rejected-raising-olympia-s-minimum-wage-now-the-council-has-a-plan/ar-AA283rxY

    That work was then halted when a citizen-led initiative to adopt worker protections and a $20 minimum wage gained enough signatures to be placed on the Nov. 4, 2025 ballot, according to previous reporting from The Olympian. The initiative was presented to the City Council on July 22, 2025, and the council voted down outright adopting worker protections and a $20 minimum wage, 4-3. Instead, it voted unanimously to place the initiative on the ballot and leave it up to voters. The measure failed. Only 44 percent of voters supported it.

    The plan adopted by the council on Tuesday will take place in three phases. Staff would take from July to September to conduct research and data collection, stakeholder sessions and council study sessions. Those findings would be reviewed, and the project scope would be refined this fall.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Is that like election fraud, or post-election fraud?

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        No it is try and try and try again until you achieve your goal despite what others think or silly rules. Doesn't everyone get a second, third and fourth chance? A person can't be judged by their worst day...

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Democracy good and hard?

  11. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Bet no "Don't Say Gay" opponents will make the same passionate arguments for this lady...And if some Muslim teacher says something about their religion, I bet no one in Scotland will be firing them for it...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/a-catholic-grandmother-was-fired-for-telling-the-truth-america-should-pay-attention/ar-AA281Vh9

    Sarah Morse, who is a U.S. citizen, has spent years teaching history at Arbroath High School in Scotland. During a classroom discussion about the rise of Adolf Hitler, students asked what she believed about abortion. She told them that, as a faithful Catholic, she believed abortion was wrong and that they were free to disagree.

    By the end of the school day, she had been called into an office, removed from the building, and ultimately dismissed. Her offense, according to Morse, was speaking about her religious beliefs and abortion after students asked her directly.

    The irony is hard to miss.

    Britain gave the world the Magna Carta, helped develop the common law, and profoundly influenced the tradition of natural rights that inspired America's Founders. Yet today, a Catholic history teacher can lose her livelihood simply for giving an honest answer about her faith when students ask for it.

    If a society can no longer tolerate a grandmother calmly explaining what her church teaches, it isn't protecting pluralism. It's enforcing ideological conformity.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Her offense, according to Morse, was speaking about her religious beliefs and abortion after students asked her directly.

      Very well. I believe intentionally stopping the biological development and/or function of any living organism at any stage of development is killing it. I believe killing humans who aren't actively and intentionally trying to kill you is always murder; at least until adjudicated otherwise. Ergo, the vast majority of abortions are murder. Does that appease your mystical secular edicts?

  12. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    A party is good when you're...playing

    Naked horseshoes without care
    Body surfing on a river of beer

  13. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    "The family of a tourist who was killed in a freak carriage accident in Central Park is calling on the city council to ban horse-drawn carriages."

    This is another example of busybodies exploiting a tragedy as an emotional argument to do something they have been wanting to do for a long time for completely different reasons, that is, animal "rights" extremism.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Just free the horses and let them wander around Manhattan, like the Hindus do with cows.

  14. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    It also, sadly, won't reanimate the dead.

    How did they do it for Joe Biden?

  15. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

    The 2020 election was stolen but the 2016 and 2024 elections were fair. Gee I wonder why liberal miscreants would steal one election but not the others. It's really funny watching these idiots twist their tiny brains into knots to turn Trump's verbal diarrhea into a narrative.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Poor sarc.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Sarc doesn't see the irony of his maddow driven post. Lol.

    3. Syd Henderson   2 months ago

      Also interesting that the only one of Trump's elections alleged to be stolen is the one that took place when he was President.

      1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

        Yes, that is an interesting point. If it was the deep state conspiring against him it was his own deep state.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          So interesting. The Resistance apparently wasn't well celebrated 2017 to 2020.

          You guys really are quite retarded.

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

            They skipped the Time magazine article about the cabal of interested parties.

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              They always do. I bought a paper copy for when the digital copy gets memory holed.

        2. Agammamon   2 months ago

          You clearly do not understand what the term 'deep state' means.

          1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

            "Deep State" pretty much means what ever the user wants it to mean. There is no true reference standard for the term. What we do know for sure is that everything the President complains about happened under his watch.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Lol. Parody.

            2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              You clearly do not understand what the term 'deep state' means.

            3. Zeb   2 months ago

              No, the deep state is pretty well defined. It is the civil service and military and intelligence staff that aren't elected or appointed by the president and who wield a lot of power when it comes to what the government actually does and how it does it. This is not a new idea and wasn't even controversial until people started suggesting that it might be a bad thing. People celebrated it as "the resistance" in Trump's first term. You may think it's a good thing that allows for consistency and stability in government, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                Trust the experts.

              2. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

                Most people have called it bureaucracy through out our history. It really only became deep state when people objected to it stopping unlawful actions. People working in the bureaucracy are not bound by loyalty to a person but rather to the law.

                1. Zeb   2 months ago

                  People working in the bureaucracy are not bound by loyalty to a person but rather to the law.
                  That's cute that you think that. But nice that you now acknowledge that the deep state does mean something specific.

                  1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

                    No I acknowledged you identified bureaucracy. Deep state is a subjective term for when you don't like people enforcing the law. Your DMV driving tester is a bureaucrat until they don't pass you on the driver's test and then they are deep state.

        3. damikesc   2 months ago

          Weird how the Dems were obsessed over a "stolen election" when Obama was in charge, huh?

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Also interesting that the GOP points out fraud in every election but you idiots keep making this false strawman. Why they want to eliminate avenues for fraud in all elections.

        It is amazing watching you morons lie.

      3. Agammamon   2 months ago

        It's also interesting that to the Democrats the stolen elections are the ones they last - Bush and Trump.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          They denied fraud in government programs for decades until it was forcefully revealed. Same shit as voting.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Russia! Russia! Russia! on line two.

  16. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Ro Khanna tweeted this racist piece of crap...

    "Today over 100 Democrats voted for the Massie Amendment to zero aid to Israel. My brother @RepBowman & @CoriBush lost their seats for this stand 2 years ago. As a colleague told me, Black martyrdom is normalized in America. Today I want to recognize their courage."

    Cori Bush lost her seat to Wesley Jonell-Cleavon Bell, a Democrat black man.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Ro isnt known for intelligence or honesty. Too bad massie couldnt see that before jumping into the fire with him.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Massie actually did everyone a favor because now folks can clearly see who are the Anti Semites and who are not.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          Massie is a fucking moron. Khanna is a corrupt fucking moron.

        2. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

          If there was a vote to attack Israel or the jews, then i think it would be a good litmus test for antisemitism.

          Voting to stop sending a foreign government money though? kind of hard to construe that as antisemitism unless you are a dishonest fuckstick.

          I don't want the government funding food. But that does not make me anti-food.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            I don't think they're dishonest fucksticks. I think they are just every bit as woke as BLM. Anything that can remotely be construed, by twisted logic, as not prostrating sufficiently (sometimes literally) for blacks was considered racism or white supremacy by the BLM left. They've adopted the same framework, but substituted Israel for blacks, finding antisemitism under every mattress.

            "What, Massie wants to cut US taxpayer funding to Israel (and also proposed amendments to cut funding for Egypt and Jordan, and has always been against all foreign aid)? He's a raving Jew-hater, I tells ya."
            -paraphrased

            "Massie says that the Israel lobby was instrumental in ousting him? He must hate Jews." -paraphrased.
            Even though AIPAC bragged about effecting his primary loss. It's antisemitism to say what AIPAC says, because when AIPAC says it, they're bragging about it, but when Massie says it, he's lamenting it.

            They've become woke. It's ironic because they exhibit the same tactics and mindset as the woke left that they decried for years. And even more so, since they now call their opponents "woke right" if they aren't sufficiently obsequious to Israel. (There's some Saul Alinsky "Rules for Radicals" for you: accuse your opponent of what you're guilty of) Even more absurd, some like Mark Levin have taken to calling every critic of Israel "woke Reich." Because it really shows how level-headed and non-woke you are to call all of your opponents Nazis. They all agreed it was dishonest and stupid when the left would reflexively call Trump and all of his voters Nazis, but when they do it for anyone not bowing before Israel and wanting to send billions to that foreign country, it's totally not woke behavior, trust them.

            Okay, maybe some of them are woke AND dishonest fucksticks.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      A la a Black Mass, Black Church, or Black Sabbath; if you sacrifice yourself as part of a regular ritual and are forgotten two ritual cycles later (or less), you might not be "a martyr of African descent" and might just be part of a (performative) Satanic cult.

  17. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "It also, sadly, won't reanimate the dead. If only we humans had the power to do so."

    If we did, we'd be overrun with zombie dogs and grandpas.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      In retrospect, I could have bypassed this comment for Liz. I know she'd love to be able to have her child back.

      Sadly, my first thought was not her tragedy, but the country song "I Wish Grandpas Never Died", which the first time I heard in the truck said to Mrs Oblongata basically the comment above...

      "And I wish good dogs never got grey and old...And I wish grandpas never died"

      Along with the wholly impractical "And I wish high school home teams never lost", which would tend to give every team a 4-4 or 5-5 record as HS conferences tend to give all teams an equal number of home/away games or a cyclic imbalance (5 home, 4 away, the 4 home, 5 away the next year).

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "Along with the wholly impractical "And I wish high school home teams never lost", which would tend to give every team a 4-4 or 5-5 record as HS conferences tend to give all teams an equal number of home/away games or a cyclic imbalance (5 home, 4 away, the 4 home, 5 away the next year)."

        But that would be the nanny "fair" method for sports. And life.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        HS conferences tend to give all teams an equal number of home/away games or a cyclic imbalance (5 home, 4 away, the 4 home, 5 away the next year)

        Technically, every game has a home and away team, even if both teams are playing on an 'away' field. Even between conferences, the in-conference team is usually "home".

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Our elections were left vulnerable to being rigged and stolen, and the trust of the American people was lost. This cannot be allowed to continue.

    So where does the pajama class have us landing now? Election interference? Foreign influence? Most up-and-up election in the history of elections? It's almost like the election we don't like turns out to have been suspect but the one we do like turns out to have been perfect.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      That's different. Russia starts with an R and China starts with a C.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        But both have an i...

      2. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

        In Russia it starts with a P.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Actually it starts with Р

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    It looks a little bit like Trump is working to tend to the seeds of distrust in elections that he has long ago sown.

    Is it the sowing that sends us toward third world elections or is it having third world elections doing that. Personally, I don't know, and with everyone having sold their own credibility for, I don't know, social acceptance(?) there's no way for me to know.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Fist, just join one of the teams and after 5 or 6 shots of Koolade it will all make sense.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      For me mistrust in institutions is a starting point.

      The belief that elections are the one industry that people seeking power wont attempt to corrupt is quite dumb. See comments above denying it.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But for Democrats to mistrust institutions, at least the ones they like, they would have to give up their whole nanny-state-collectivist-experts-globalist-elite vision.

  20. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

    I am old enough to remember when certian liberal publications claimed Trump colluded with Russia to tamper with, and steal an election via $100,000 in influnce peddling facebook ads.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      I remember that too.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Hmm, Democrats called Obama's intel groups absolute failures in that. Not intentionally, mind you.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    In fact, I think there have been structural changes to our economy and society which clearly explain why these cohorts are failing to move through the five pillars of a stable middle-class existence: education, stable employment, marriage, homeownership, children.

    Anyone who's hired - or, hell, interacted with - Millennials and Zoomers knows why and it's no one's fault but their own.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Why, because new employers refuse to start them at the VP level?

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The family of a tourist who was killed in a freak carriage accident in Central Park is calling on the city council to ban horse-drawn carriages.

    New York City is known lately to let foreigners dictate its terms for it so why not.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Amish wall street traders hardest hit.

    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

      no big those horses will be necessary food by like October

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        As horse d'oeuvres?

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          yes. the Kommie Kroger will have a horse d'oeuvres section.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Yeah, but they'll put it in the back so you have to walk past the cricket section if you want to dine on equine morsels.

            1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              Shut up and eat your bugs!

  23. Marshal   2 months ago

    What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

    Isn't it odd these "former intelligence officials" frame this as a mitigation, yet it's exactly what Russia was believed to have done which they and the left generally have ranted about for a decade now. Again we see their principles are exactly elastic enough that the same issue can be both the end of Democracy and no big deal depending entirely on whether it is hurting or helping their team.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Ahem, that's (D)ifferent.

    2. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

      LOL, Trump's own document dump says that Russia interfered for Trump.
      https://www.techdirt.com/2026/07/17/the-documents-trump-declassified-to-blame-china-for-the-2020-election-actually-show-russia-was-the-one-meddling-for-him/

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Jesus Christ you are a fucking hack. From the "article" you linked:

        You might have heard that Donald Trump gave a weird, rambling, nonsense speech last night full of misinformation and lies,

        There are no facts in this drivel, just partisan nonsense. Just like you Rachel.

        1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

          Makes sense that someone as dumb as you is illiterate.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        You didnt read the actual documents sarc. God damn fucking retard. They do not say that. They say Russia wanted strike and conflict. They supported both candidates to generate it. The documents say they preferred Hillary because they could work with her.

        Look at the maddow watcher push a known lie instead of reading the actual documents. Good for you.

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        If you were smarter you'd understand that even if your assertion is true it doesn't conflict with mine.

    3. damikesc   2 months ago

      How many of these "former intel officials" referred to Hunter Biden laptop as clear-cut Russian propaganda?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Sarc for sure did. Wait. You said intelligence.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Didn't see the speech, never planned to watch it.

    https://nypost.com/2026/07/16/us-news/dhs-finds-278000-noncitizens-registered-to-vote-trump-expected-to-reveal-in-primetime-speech/

    President Trump is expected to reveal during his primetime speech Thursday on election security that at least 278,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in US federal elections.

    The shocking number is part of a forthcoming report by the Department of Homeland Security, a source familiar told The Post.

    It is the highest ever publicly reported in US history, but the source said it remains unclear how many of those registrants may have voted illegally and what the administration plans to do about it.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      And that was only for half the states if I remember.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "Our elections were left vulnerable to being rigged and stolen, and the trust of the American people was lost. This cannot be allowed to continue."

    But this was serious talk by serious people in 2016, right, Reason?

    1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

      i remember making fun of everyone crying over his election in 2016.

      The Dems spent like 3 years sounding almost as retarded as the republicans have sounded for 6.

      1. Syd Henderson   2 months ago

        I also remember Trump claiming he actually won the popular vote in 2016.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But only the Dems subverted the federal security state and put on Congressional shows in order to "correct" the 2016 fraud.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          They even committed crimes to support this narrative.

      3. Rick James   2 months ago

        The Dems spent like 3 years

        lol

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Hillary was still doing it just last year.

          I also find it funny that Chicago retard thinks cheating forces a change on who the winner is.

          He claims to be for voter integrity above, but doesnt realize fraud in voting has occurred for decades. And he lives in fucking Chicago of all places.

          Just dishonest takes from him. Pretending to support integrity, but also deny it is happening so there is no push for voting reforms.

      4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Trump had been president for almost a year and they were still putting out crap like this...

        https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077

        How Hillary Clinton Still Can, and Should, Become President After the Trump-Russia Investigation

        If number 1: If Trump is definitively found to have colluded directly with Russia, he would be forced to resign or be impeached.

        If number 2: If Trump is removed, Vice President Mike Pence would become president.

        If number 3: If Pence becomes president, he should resign too, given that he benefited from the same help from Mother Russia.

        If number 4: If Pence resigns before appointing a vice president, Ryan would become president.

        If number 5: If Ryan becomes president, he should do the right thing and choose Clinton for vice president. Then he should resign.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          I am surprised he even bothered to put this into words.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Bending over backwards...

      "The PolitiFact writer acknowledged several high-profile Democrats, including Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton, had questioned the legitimacy of President Trump's win. But, he argued, that was different from saying the election was "stolen."

      In 2019, Clinton did say the election had been "stolen from her."

      “Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts,” Speaker Pelosi tweeted.

      "Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election .....welcome to the world of #unpresidented Trump" Karine Jean-Pierre tweeted

  26. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6

    our best and brightest!

  27. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

    China collected US voter rolls? Isn't that information already available to the publics? What facts did Trump tells us yesterday that weren't already known.

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'trying to squeeze every last bit of risk out of society, in favor of perfect, predictable safetyism is a fool's errand'

    Why do you hate Karens? And Democrats?

  29. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "Our elections were left vulnerable to being rigged and stolen"

    Pay no attention to the political parties behind the curtain! The only rigging of elections that is being done is by the Democrats and the Republicans utilizing the two party election system; and "our elections" were stolen a long time ago by them. Our elections continue to be stolen by the Democrats and the Republicans through redistricting and gerrymandering on an ongoing basis, and there is ZERO doubt about this as almost every election in every district is won by either a Democrat or a Republican, and the candidates are hand-picked by the party elite leadership, not the voters. Meanwhile allegations of voter fraud and "stolen" elections remain a sleight of hand legerdemain gambit from the losers to divert us from noticing the elephant in the room.

    1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

      +1

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        I bet youre one of those faux Ls who cheers L candidates siphoning off GOP votes while ignoring dems kicking greens off ballots.

    2. Rick James   2 months ago

      I had a lightning bolt thought yesterday which unfortunately requires an essay-length comment, but I am beginning to disabuse myself of whinging about the "two party duopoly".

      If you look at the modern political landscape, we're electing third party candidates all the time. They just declare themselves to be part of the 'duopoly'.

      Trump is a third party candidate. Mamdani is a third party candidate. AOC is a third party candidate, Karen Bass is a third party candidate. All of these people would have been very much at home in Ross Perot's party, the Tea Party, the Green Party, the Socialist Worker's Party and even the American Communist party in any other context. We're regularly electing candidates who want to 'destroy capitalism', embrace the warmth of collectivism, stop the 'giant sucking sound of jobs being sent south of the border" etc.

      I believe that the going-forward strategy is to do exactly what we're seeing now. Ditch your third party notions, join one of the major two parties and win an election that way. Quit wasting time trying to get elected with a 3rd party label, and just do 3rd party shit while living within the two major parties.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        >>Trump is a third party candidate.

        trying to explain this to people I previously believed rational has been difficult

        1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

          it is a solid point. but i think it's more accurate to say Trump WAS a 3rd party candidate. He pretty much is the Republican party right now. Twas quite the coup.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            ya except the idiot vice president is a Bernie Bro and the senate is gopE to the bone

            1. Zeb   2 months ago

              It's amazing how many people are completely oblivious to the major political realignment that has happened in the last 10 years or so.

          2. Rick James   2 months ago

            Cue another "Trump has rejected traditional Reagan-Republican ideas!" article from Reason.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        Of course, that is the practical way for "outsider" candidates to get elected. I would still like to see some reforms of how entrenched the parties are in elections. Like not having states run party primaries and not having party affiliation on ballots, automatic ballot access for party primary winners or straight ticket voting options.

      3. mad.casual   2 months ago

        I had a lightning bolt thought yesterday which unfortunately requires an essay-length comment, but I am beginning to disabuse myself of whinging about the "two party duopoly".

        No lightning bolts here. For all the "borders are abstract social constructs" the fight against two party systems is pretty uncanny. It's like saying, with the choice of bits being between 0 and 1, the number of things a computer can do is, limited to one of two extremes.

        Once again:
        Maurice Duverger, creator of Duverger's Law and keystone to the "two party duopoly" line of thought believed Stalin was a moderate and his purges kept the party faithful motivated and in check.

        Hitler was 3rd party. Lincoln was 3rd party. Mussolini had one opponent, but it was a 3/multi-party system. Japan and Italy fought on the side of the "Allies" in WWI and against the "Allies" in WWII. The idea that multi-lateral or multicameral governance produces more moderation or stability or less strife is a farce.

        "Two Party Duopoly" is frequently just short for "My guy didn't win." or "My preferred policies aren't being enacted." Oftentimes, with the latter being unstated or explored. Rendering the discussion to be whether an ambidextrous person should write with his left hand and throw with his right or vice versa.

  30. Rick James   2 months ago

    "U.S. intelligence and congressional officials have long known that China obtained voter data," counters The New York Times, which was "publicly available information often purchased by political campaigns.

    So it's true, but it's not as bad as we thought... got it.

    1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

      precisely this. it is true, but also super-duper obvious and not some sort of new intelligence.

      you can buy all that voter data if you want. it's literally public. of course EVERY foreign actor has it including China and Russia.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Did Biden's family business sell it? Along with the Ukraine secrets and other classified info Biden illegally had stored in Hunter's house?

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        And yet, despite being FROM Chicago of all places, you pretend fraud isnt happening and dems are removing as many guard rails as they can.

        Amazing.

  31. Rick James   2 months ago

    What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent.

    Russia interference/not interference oscillation wave is strong with this.

    1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

      yes. claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election were complete and total bullshit. making a sick meme, or even a full on political campaign, is not election interference.

      Let's not all become as retarded as the Dems were please.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        Can anyone rigorously define interference?

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          No, that's why it's the favored term.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Let me ask you a simple question chicago retard...

        Does vote fraud happen. Yes or no?

        If yes, what evidence do you have it isnt a large number? My guess is youll sat it is due to number of convictions.

        2 problems

        Democrats literally arrested people for trying to look at the data, that was the Garland lawfare, Tina Peter's, etc.

        Each conviction can be dozens of votes, see recent convictions.

        So what is your fucking point? You pretend to support election integrity measures while at the same time pretending elections are clean as fuck. This is why nobody believes your first assertion.

        Do you even know that for 3 decades, mail in voting was the highest indication of fraud from the Jimmy Carter Voting Center?

        How can you pretend to br neutral and honest and claim it diesnt exist when the very guard rails you pretend to exist aren't present? Just too dumb to understand that contradiction?

    2. The redneck coward in Spokane’s Marxist Kill Count:0   2 months ago

      Wrong place

  32. Rick James   2 months ago

    Televisions, clothing, food, and air travel are cheaper than ever,

    To be fair to the millennials and zoomers, you can't live in a television, a piece of cloth, a bag of chips or an economy seat to Cleveland.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Those same millenials could move to somewhere BESIDES large cities and have few problems finding housing.

      1. Rick James   2 months ago

        That doesn't get Tik Tok and Insta clout-chasing views.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      I mean air travel isnt cheaper than ever at the moment.

  33. Rick James   2 months ago

    Scenes from New York: The family of a tourist who was killed in a freak carriage accident in Central Park is calling on the city council to ban horse-drawn carriages. "Transport Workers Union Local 100, which represents horse-carriage drivers and owners, has for years fended off efforts to abolish the industry," reports The New York Times.

    Horse-drawn carriages and buggy whips are the soul of New York's economy. You can't eliminate that.

    1. The redneck coward in Spokane’s Marxist Kill Count:0   2 months ago

      Did you really register to vote in California? Because if you did you committed perjury.

      Think about it. Think hard. You were either lying the other day or confessing to a crime.

  34. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Trump's stolen-election claims:

    your list right after the colon contains no stolen-election claims.

  35. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>True:

    not true. he wasn't tampering with reality he knew reality before the market did

    1. The redneck coward in Spokane’s Marxist Kill Count:0   2 months ago

      Far out man!!!! Does your wife have an intellectual disability like you do?

  36. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>but trying to squeeze every last bit of risk out of society, in favor of perfect, predictable safetyism is a fool's errand.

    start with it's just fucking wrong to do to the horse.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Legend has it that Great-(Great-)Grandpa Casual beat a horse to death with his bare hands. Details are muddy, but the horse supposedly offended him in a manner that warranted behavioral modification (broke free of the plow, may or may not have dragged him, and crashed through a fence gate) and he was known to have a temper.

      Personally, seems fit. If the family wants to beat the responsible horse to death in lieu of banning carriage rides for everyone. As long as the horse isn't tied down or whatever, I'm in. Closed-loop/self-regulating system.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        I am all for outlawing in exchange for state-sponsored death sentences

  37. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    "If true—which is a big if—this is a huge indictment of government data-security practices (not much else)."

    WTF, there is no IF. This was proven to happen in Canada and Trudeau along with liberal members of parliament ignored the findings and allowed it to happen again in the next two elections. Why? Because the Chinese were working the game to get Trudeau and Liberals elected. You can bet the democrats who knew this was happening encouraged it to Get Trump.

    I would posit they actually asked for the interference. I would go so far today to assert the democrats paid out and were part of the release of Covid to destroy the US economy with their BS lockdowns and mandates because they knew if the economy remained as strong as it was that Trump would easily be re-elected.

  38. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    FFS of course complicit democrats would say this. Was it Vindman? The 51 signatories saying Hunter's laptop in the hands of the FBI at the time was Russian Disinformation?

    "What's more, former intelligence officials have said, China gathered the data not to manipulate voting results, but instead to better craft influence campaigns to shape voters' perceptions." Influence campaigns are different than straight-up election tampering—and seemingly much harder to prevent."

    This says China interfered to get democrats elected FFS. The dems will do and say anything for power and also to not be caught, then after being caught, to not be held accountable for their Anti Americanism and Trump hate.

  39. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>"And yet this generation is also not marrying, not buying homes, not having children, and seem pretty miserable. I think we're clearly in the midst of a tremendous measurement failure."

    that their fucking problem nobody in genX had anything at 25 either. this is a nation of self-governance. govern thyselves

  40. Zeb   2 months ago

    I want to know more about these "voter files". As far as I was aware, there's a voter list and a record of if people voted or not. Is there more to these files?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Data contained SS numbers and addresses per some od the reporting. Such as with the huge leak of clearance holders. Enough information to a) register to vote or b) send in a mail in voter ballot as someone else.

    2. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

      As you can see below, some voters information is public and some is held as confidential. Confidential information includes birth date, SS number and DL number. The most significant information available is your name and address. I would note that some voters can have their address confidential if that is necessary for their personal security (victim of stalking, or an abused person).

      https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/misc/lc/issue_briefs/2022/elections/voter_information_kbo_2022_04_07

  41. See.More   2 months ago

    "[...]"And yet this generation is also... not having children...[...]

    Convincing them mutilate their genitals and get sterilized kinda removes them, amongst other things, from the breeding stock.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      That's amusing and all. But really doesn't do much to explain it. The vast majority have not transed themselves and are still perfectly capable of reproducing.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But the ones on the left, in other words most of them, are convinced that the world will end (again) in just a few years, so having kids is "irresponsible". And kids just add to the criminal human race.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          That is probably much closer to the mark. The lack of social expectations for people getting married and having kids at a reasonable age is a big part of it too, I think.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        "Perfectly capable" seems like a reach.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Is there some physical impediment preventing them from just fucking?

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