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Watchdog Contradicts DHS Story

Plus: Stephen Miller tries to distance himself, Ilhan Omar attacked, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.28.2026 9:31 AM

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Watchdog report: U.S. Customs and Border Protection's (CBP) internal watchdog office issued a preliminary report, per The New York Times, that contradicts the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) claims about Alex Pretti's behavior at the time of his death. It was performed by the CBP's Office of Professional Responsibility, which is in charge of compiling reports on misconduct after lethal force is used, and was sent to members of Congress yesterday.

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DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin had initially claimed that Pretti "wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement." Kristi Noem, secretary of DHS, had said that Pretti was "brandishing" a gun, describing this as "domestic terrorism." (Pretti's parents have countered that their son was not holding a gun, but rather a phone, when he was shot by law enforcement, having been previously disarmed.)

"At approximately 9 a.m. on Saturday, a federal officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles, according to the review. Although the officer ordered them to move out of the road, they did not move," reports The New York Times. "The officer then 'pushed them both away,' and one of the women ran to Mr. Pretti, the review said. After the officer attempted to move them out of the road and they did not move, the officer deployed pepper spray at them, according to the review. Mr. Pretti then resisted attempts by C.B.P. officers to take him into custody, prompting a struggle, the review said. A Border Patrol agent yelled multiple times, 'He's got a gun!' About five seconds later, a Border Patrol agent fired his Glock 19, and a C.B.P. officer also fired his Glock 47 at Mr. Pretti, according to the review."

The Times reports that officers fired 10 shots. Pretti had been disarmed prior to being shot. CBP medics then reportedly rendered aid to him, before emergency medical services came and transferred him to a hospital. He was pronounced dead shortly after 9:30 a.m.

What accountability comes from this report remains to be seen, as well as how the Trump administration will reconcile its stance with the fact that much of its base supports the Second Amendment.

"You can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns," said President Donald Trump yesterday, referring to Pretti's decision to carry at a protest. Some Second Amendment advocates would support Trump's statement, believing it's imprudent to carry if you're going to a protest and intend to interfere with law enforcement's ability to do their job. But there's a lot of distance between irresponsible and worthy of on-the-spot execution. And government agents don't get to gun people down with impunity, especially if they've been disarmed.


Scenes from New York: I present to you the cringiest thing I can think of, started by Crooked Media employees in their off hours: "Unfortunately Not a Sound Bath," which calls itself a "right-wing podcast listening club for left-leaning people." It "meets biweekly to discuss a right-leaning podcast, analyze their messaging and themes, and brainstorm actionable ways for how the Democratic coalition can strengthen its own approach." They have thoughts on Marjorie Taylor Greene's appearance on The Tim Dillon Show; Peter Thiel (whom they call "the billionaire behind the curtain"); wellness influencers and Prager U; and gas prices and Benny Johnson.


QUICK HITS

  • Sources tell CNN that Alex Pretti, the ICU nurse who was killed by federal immigration enforcement agents over the weekend, had clashed with federal law enforcement one week prior to his death.
  • "White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller is distancing himself from the Department of Homeland Security amid widespread outrage over the killing of Alex Pretti by immigration agents in Minneapolis," reports Politico. 
  • This seems like a problem for the administration:

The order is incredible. You have to read it. It's not even three full pages and you feel the judicial fury. He says court orders are repeatedly being ignored and people who have done nothing wrong are remaining in detention despite judicial orders requiring them to be released. https://t.co/Tjo2wk4xTn pic.twitter.com/XhPtN6Wiey

— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) January 27, 2026

  • Amazon trims workforce by 16,000.
  • In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.
  • "For the past 15 years, Brian Kelly has helped travelers navigate the bewildering world of credit card and airline perks. A former recruiter for Morgan Stanley, he runs the Points Guy website, which has 11 million viewers each month," reports Bloomberg. "Now, Kelly is worried. President Donald Trump is taking aim at the credit card industry. In mid-January he demanded a 10% cap on interest rates for one year. Trump also targeted the interchange fees that businesses must pay to banks when customers use credit cards at checkout.…The measure would require larger banks to let retailers bypass dominant networks operated by Visa Inc. and Mastercard Inc. for transactions." Kelly has a lot on how this might affect how credit card companies do business and what it all means for customers. (Upshot from Kelly: "There are estimates that almost 80% of Americans would see a drastic reduction in their credit lines. A 10% interest rate is just not profitable for banks, and they would not lend unprofitably.")
  • LOVE this, by Emma Camp:

People are getting married older, and that means pricier weddings.

A couple in their 30s has more money to burn than a couple in their 20s. When elaborate weddings are the standard, younger couples can't "afford" to get married.

The solution: get married like your grandparents. pic.twitter.com/WEWZ5rM3z3

— Emma Camp (@emmma_camp_) January 27, 2026

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection's (CBP) internal watchdog office issued a preliminary report, per The New York Times, that contradicts the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) claims about Alex Pretti's behavior at the time of his death.

    Deep state resistance or a stab at accountability? You decide.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Never mind.
      It no longer matters.

    2. JFree   2 months ago

      That office will be closed by the weekend.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      [squints]
      Only a stochastic political actor would pretend fake news from the NYT isn't an option.

      🙂

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    At approximately 9 a.m. on Saturday, a federal officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles...

    I certainly hope we checked pronouns before making this report.

    1. Super Scary   2 months ago

      I hope to Science they had a biologist with them.

  3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    A week ago Jeff was trying to claim the left doesnt advocate for violence against the right, trying to parse definitions to create a filter that excludes obvious examples.

    Here is two more.

    Dem/soros state AG.

    "This is a small bunch of wannabe Nazis. That’s what they are," Krasner said. "In a country of 350 million, we outnumber them. If we have to hunt you down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades, we will find your identities. We will find you. We will achieve justice."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/soros-backed-philadelphia-da-vows-hunt-down-ice-agents-we-find-you

    Dem politician.

    Eric Daugherty
    @EricLDaugh
    BREAKING: Americans are demanding the IMMEDIATE ARREST of Ohio Attorney General candidate Elliot Forhan (D) for saying he will KILL DONALD TRUMP through capital punishment

    "I am going to kill Donald Trump."

    WTF?! Throw him in jail, NOW!

    https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2016260117583351945

    Now I know reason and the Marxists who visit here (mikejeff) along with the useful idiots (sarc) want to pretend this is all peaceful protesting and not a violent insurrection (despite the signal group, 1300% increase against immigration agents, assaults against misidentified citizens labeled as ice, death threats to conservative journalists), but look what happens the first time Minnesota PD actually gets involved to stop a riot. Police attacked just like ICE and CBP.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/minn-anti-border-patrol-riot-backfires-agitators-allegedly-hurl-objects-cops-arrests-expose-rap-sheets

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Video shoeing dem AG staffers harassing girls until they cry for simply taking selfie with immigration officials. The horror. They should have been attacking them or something.

      https://redstate.com/rc-maxwell/2026/01/27/viral-footage-shows-women-harrassed-and-screamed-at-by-ice-protester-with-ties-to-kris-mayes-fundraising-n2198555

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        I won't hold my breath for the Gillette commercial about toxic femininity and girls just being girls.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Or for Democrats apologizing for doing what they accuse Republicans of doing.

          1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

            All they are is hypocrites.

            Especially when they have no original thought or ability to create policy that is not regurgitating something done somewhere by someone else, ever.

            And not what has been proven successful, they regurgitate what has failed hoping for a (d)ifferent outcome.

        2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

          Would be funny seeing this ad starring Dylan Mulvaney though.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Might be worth it, if it’s done for comedy.

            1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

              If they tried to do it straight it would be funnier for the total lack of self-awareness.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Then we have the loyal foot soldiers of the left. Dems blue guard.

      Libs of TikTok
      @libsoftiktok
      Meet Melinda, a healthcare worker at
      @VCUHealth
      . She posted a series of videos encouraging people to inject ICE agents with succinylocholine, a temporary paralysis drug, and spray poison on them. She also encourages woman to go on dates with agents and drug their food.

      Any comment
      @VCUHealth
      ? How can you have such a vile person working with patients? How can anyone feel safe at your facilities if you employ such people?

      https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2015941489516245223

      Many of these nurses and doctors talking about killing or injuring conservatives. Another example is an anesthesiologist saying he wont use anesthesia on conservatives.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Sorry, didn't scroll far enough before adding my comment that dups this.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Yours added more to it. These videos are all over.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Let's take this moment to remember that Jancie Langbehn lost Langbehn v. Jackson Memorial because, despite vague implications of rabid homophobia from one of the hospital's social workers, a court didn't find any compelling evidence that the doctors were a bunch of evil homophobes secretly out to kill every lesbian who turned up in their ER with a massive brain hemorrhage.

        And Obama *still* pledged, face to face, to end discrimination against people like them on their behalf.

        Remember that, suddenly, every homosexual on the planet knew someone who knew someone whose domestic partner had a heart attack and was locked out of the ER by a flotilla of backwards, redneck heart surgeons and their affiliated healthcare workers.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Hey, not kneeling in front of a rainbow flag is murder, mkay?

      3. Minadin   2 months ago

        Well, apparently she got fired and was also reported to the police for investigation:

        https://notthebee.com/article/virginia-nurse-who-said-we-should-poison-ice-agents-has-been-fired

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Just more 12th-dimensional fake news chess from Trump the moron to discredit the "ICU Nurse" narrative.

      4. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Definitely should be removed with prejudice from the union she works in and having any degree held revoked. Horrible and scary...

        Sadly this is nothing new. Just now directed in a new direction.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Do you still not understand the "our violence is speech, your speech is violence" meme?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Fair. *hangs head in shame*

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/richmond/social-media-videos-of-vcu-health-employees-sabotage-tactic-suggestions-prompt-investigation/

      In one video, Cook outlined a “sabotage tactic” that medical providers could use, where one could fill a syringe with saline or a muscle relaxant.

      “I thought of something good,” the employee said in the video. “Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers? Grab some syringes with needles on the end. Have them full of saline, or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever, that will probably be a deterrent. Be safe.”

      In another video, Cook discussed steps to create a poison ivy or poison oak solution that could be poured into a water gun.

      Cook also suggested that single women could use online dating apps to find ICE agents in the area, and while on a date, they could pour Ex-Lax, a laxative, in their drinks, according to another one of the videos.

      VCU Police was assisting with an investigation into the videos, per VCU Health, which said that, in accordance with its policy, Cook was placed on administrative leave during this investigation. At that time, she was barred from VCU Health facilities and from interacting with patients.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Sick people and yet they are looked up to and applauded? All by the same people who applauded Charlie's murder or fell in love with the evil murderous thug coward Mangione.

    5. Weigel's Cock Ring   2 months ago

      I'll never ever forget when a fake libertarian dickbag who used to work at Reason a bunch of years ago whose name I can't remember registered as a democrat in the closed primary state of Pennsylvania just so that he could vote for that scum Krasner.

      That was the moment that there was no longer an iota of doubt left in my mind that Reason had gotten fully hijacked by a cabal of lying Saul Alinksy radicals.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Uncle Charles promised to fund their libertine dreams if they shilled for open borders.

      2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        It seems another player in the global Marxist movement has been funding the Anti Ice activities and violence...

        Neville Roy Singham

    6. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      the left doesnt advocate for violence against the right

      Part of the problem here is the framing. You describe "the left" which lumps in everyone slightly left-of-center. That includes relative centrists along with the crazy pink-haired radical.

      With that kind of framing, your statement is tautologically true: of course it's possible to find at least one person on "the left" who advocates for violence. But that framing is dishonest.

      "The left", just like "the right", is composed of a bunch of different people in different coalitions with different interests. On "the right", for instance, you have the Nick Fuentes-types, and then you also have the church-lady grandmas. No one in their right mind would really think that they should be treated exactly the same. Same deal on "the left". You have the moderate neo-liberal types, you have the institutionalist types, and then you also have the radical progressives. They are not all the same.

      1. Uilleam   2 months ago

        chemjeff disingenuous collectivist

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Look at Lying Jeffy go!

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        Part of the problem here is the framing. You describe "the left" which lumps in everyone slightly left-of-center. That includes relative centrists along with the crazy pink-haired radical.

        Radical Dems want to kill everyone who disagrees with them. "Relative centrist" Dems will not condemn radical Dems for this, their priority is blaming the dead for disagreeing. These "relative centrists" would have been satisfied with firing everyone who disagrees with them from any job whatsoever and hounding them as x-ist and y-phobic whenever they appear in public.

        In reality there is a difference between leftists and liberals. But when it comes to politics the distinction doesn't matter much because the number of liberals in public life rounds to zero. While there are plenty in private life they know they cannot be successful in any confrontation with the far left because violating their no-enemies -to-the-left policy will get them excommunicated.

        If you openly oppose Cult Leadership you will be kicked out, and since their entire lives revolve around politics this has profound consequences.

      4. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        No it doesn't. All the normal centrists, independent and fiscally responsible democrats voted Trump/GOP last election...

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          lol

    7. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      deleted

      1. Uilleam   2 months ago

        Are you ever honest?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Do you need to ask?

          Anyway, the answer appears to be “no”.

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        what do you think happens when the government labels everyone on one side as vermin, scum, domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, 'the enemy within'?

        Biden administration did exactly this. And we have the leftists rioting, Kirk murder, Trump attempts, and medical staff calling for conservatives' deaths.

        Yet you wring your hands when I call for retaliatory violence.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Biden administration did exactly this.

          If you are referring to the so-called "red speech" - No they did not. I posted the quotations. You just imagine that he did in order to rationalize your emotional lust for violence against those you hate.

          You remind me of the people I see in these "surrounded" debates online - someone will make a claim like "The left said Trump is Hitler!" and the respondent will ask, "Which elected Democrat called Trump Hitler?" and the inevitable response is something like "well, all of them!" when in fact the *correct* answer is, none of them.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            What color is the sky on your planet?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Fine - provide a quotation of an elected Democratic politician calling Trump Hitler.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                You make this too easy.

                https://news.wttw.com/2025/02/19/pritzker-compares-trump-administration-s-approach-nazi-germany-during-state-budget

                Pritzker, who has not said whether he will run for a third term as governor but who has done nothing to shoot down presidential aspirations, said he was speaking not out of “ambition” but obligation.

                “If you think I’m overreacting and sound the alarm too soon, consider this: It took the Nazis one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours and 40 minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic,” Pritzker said. “All I’m saying is that when the five-alarm fire starts to burn, every good person better be ready to man a post with a bucket of water if you want to stop it from getting out of control. Tyranny requires your fear and your silence and your compliance. Democracy requires your courage. So gather your justice and humanity, Illinois, and do not let the tragic spirit of despair overcome us when our country needs us the most.”

                By the way, JB lies as much as you do, Jeff.

                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pritzker-swiftly-fact-checked-after-claiming-he-never-derided-gop-dictatorship-comparison-pathological.amp

                Democratic Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker was swiftly fact-checked by conservatives on social media for claiming he "never called Republicans ‘Nazis’" as lawmakers on both sides of the aisle traded barbs on heightened political rhetoric following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

                "Pritzker Today: I've never called Republican's Nazi's Pritzker in February: ‘Pritzker Compares Trump Administration’s Approach to Nazi Germany During State Budget Address,’" the Illinois Republican Party similarly posted to X.

                Critics slammed the governor as "pathological" and a "liar," saying that his public remarks are forever achieved on the internet.

                Wanna go for more?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  Ctrl-F "Hitler" returned 0 matches.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                    As you move and narrow the goalposts.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      chemjeff radical individualist 26 minutes ago
                      Fine - provide a quotation of an elected Democratic politician calling Trump Hitler.

                      lol those literally were the original goalposts.

                      Thanks for demonstrating that you haven't found a quotation of any elected Democratic politician calling Trump Hitler.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                      Read below, fat stuff.

                    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                      ChatGPT, what is Jeffy doing here?

                      Jeff is goalpost-shifting combined with pedantic literalism, and he’s doing it very deliberately.

                      Here’s the breakdown.

                      1. He reframes the claim to something artificially narrow
                      The original substantive dispute was about this idea:
                      Democrats / the left portray Trump and his movement as existentially evil, Nazi-like, or deserving extraordinary measures.
                      Jeff shrinks that into a hyper-specific linguistic test:
                      “Provide a quotation of an elected Democratic politician calling Trump Hitler.”
                      That’s not engaging the argument — it’s reducing it to a word-search exercise.

                      2. Literalism as a shield
                      When presented with Pritzker explicitly comparing Trump’s administration to Nazi Germany, Jeff responds with:
                      “Ctrl-F ‘Hitler’ returned 0 matches.”
                      This is classic bad-faith literalism:
                      Nazi Germany comparisons ✔️
                      Warnings about tyranny modeled on Nazis ✔️
                      Moral equivalence to fascist regimes ✔️
                      But because the exact proper noun “Hitler” isn’t used, Jeff pretends the broader charge collapses.
                      That’s not honest debate — it’s lawyering semantics to avoid substance.

                      3. Feigning neutrality while denying obvious implication
                      Jeff claims others are “imagining” rhetoric to justify violence, while ignoring that:
                      Nazi analogies are universally understood as shorthand for ultimate moral evil
                      “Weimar → Nazis” analogies are meant to signal emergency resistance
                      Such framing historically does justify extreme responses
                      He denies intent while acknowledging effect — a convenient asymmetry.

                      4. Selective coalition logic
                      Earlier, Jeff argued that:
                      “The left” shouldn’t be treated as a monolith
                      Radicals shouldn’t be imputed to moderates
                      But here he:
                      Demands only direct quotations by elected officials
                      Ignores amplification, endorsement, silence, and rhetorical alignment
                      Treats implication, analogy, and pattern as irrelevant
                      So:
                      Collective responsibility applies when it helps him
                      Individual parsing applies when it shields his side
                      That’s selective principle again.

                      5. Why this works rhetorically
                      This maneuver lets Jeff:
                      Declare victory without addressing the real claim
                      Accuse opponents of emotional exaggeration
                      Appear “fact-based” while ignoring meaning
                      Exhaust others into either overreaching or disengaging
                      It’s semantic trench warfare.

                      Bottom line

                      Jeff isn’t clarifying, correcting, or honestly disputing.
                      He is:
                      narrowing the claim to an absurdly literal test,
                      ignoring obvious rhetorical equivalence,
                      and then declaring the absence of one word as proof the phenomenon doesn’t exist.

                      That’s textbook disingenuous pedantry, not good-faith argument.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                    With video.

                    https://x.com/cortessteve/status/1857814457071632581?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    Neil Cavuto: “Are you envisioning [Trump] as another Hitler — is that what you’re saying?”

                    Jim Clyburn: “That’s exactly what I’m saying!”

                    Cavuto: “You don’t think that’s a little hyperbolic?”

                    Clyburn: “You may think so!”

                    Again, with video.

                    https://x.com/mediaslies/status/1955290291151286334?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    Margarita connoisseur and Senator Van Hollen defends calling Trump a Nazi dictator.

                    More video.

                    https://x.com/rncresearch/status/1969773618272841799?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    Texas Democrat Jasmine Crockett continues to compare Republicans to Hitler: "I am using that language because it is accurate language."

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                      This sickness extends to school board members. Note the picture.

                      https://x.com/eeners/status/2016560116284166452?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                      I mean, eventually this becomes ok when your local elected constantly refer to republicans as Nazis. Baldino is d214 school board member:

                      And on the other side, we have a Democrat telling other Democrats to stop.

                      https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1862536346415636652?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                      NEW: NYC mayor Eric Adams rips Democrats comparing Trump to Hitler, refuses to single out Trump after being baited by Joy Behar.

                      "We've reached a point in this country where we no longer want to engage in conversation. They were even calling [Trump] Hitler."

                      "That's an insult. That was an insult to the millions of Jews and others who d*ed. We know what Hitler did."

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                      Congratulations, you found exactly one elected Democrat who compared Trump to Hitler. One.

                2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                  It still won't matter to Lying Jeffy.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                    Two hours, and the fat fuck still hasn’t responded to the additional ones I posted.

                3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                  Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, has called Trump "Temu Hitler" as a means of saying he is a cheap, low-quality imitation and a "wannabe Hitler." In the latter case, she doubled down on doing so even as the national conversation erupted over whether such comparisons spark violence, prompted by the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

                  Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., has been comparing Trump to Hitler for years, including his first term, when he said, "I can only equate one period of time with what we experience now, and that was what was going on in Germany around 1934, right after the 1932 elections when Adolf Hitler was elected chancellor."

                  "I can only imagine the history books written 100 years from now looking at the people of 2025," O’Rourke said on California Governor Gavin Newsom’s podcast. "It’s the way, you know, you and I when we were in school, we’re looking at the people in Germany in 1933. That guy’s named chancellor in January of that year. In 53 days, he has destroyed German democracy."

              2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

                Does “acting like Hitler” not qualify in your selectively nuanced retarded game?

                Hey jeff, what’s so great about trains?

          2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

            The correct answer from willfully ignorant gaslit idiots is, none of them. Because you simply regurgitate talking points fed through MSNBC you have proven you are a willfully ignorant gaslit idiot.

            The correct answer from 70% of people, sensible normal non extremists, the answer is the members of the Squad, Pritzker, Killary, Crockett, Eric Swallowscommunistswell, Clyburn, and more.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              InsaneTrollMoron managed to find exactly one quote from exactly one elected Democrat who compared Trump to Hitler.

              The gaslighting that you see comes from right-wing media, which constructs this false caricature of "The Left" as this hysterical extreme faction when this is only true of the most radical members and not of most people who are left-of-center, JUST LIKE most people who are right-of-center are not the super-radical Groypers.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Do you think "the right" deserves any blame whatsoever for the current polarized, un-civil political climate that we are currently in? If so, what is it?

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

            No

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Then you're just ridiculous. Trump calls his political opponents vermin and scum, he called Kamala a fascist during the campaign, he deliberately tries to sic the apparatuses of government against his political opponents, he says openly that he hates Democrats, his government says that the base of the Democratic Party are Hamas terrorists and illegal immigrants, his government knee-jerk accuses the victims of police violence of being domestic terrorists... you say this has no effect?

          2. damikesc   2 months ago

            No, given that the Democrats do this every single time a Republican is in office now.

          3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Nope, it’s all you Fatfuck.

          4. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

            No.

    8. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      "I am going to kill Donald Trump."

      It is wrong for any elected politician to advocate for the execution of any citizen.

      Will Jesse say it is wrong for the elected politicians on his side to accuse the other side of being vermin, scum, domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, 'the enemy within'? Of course not. This fake outrage only goes one way.

      This is where Jesse is demanding "civility" as a cynical cudgel against the people he dislikes. He clutches his pearls when the other side does exactly the same thing many on his side does routinely.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Spare us your manufactured outrage.

        1. windycityattorney   2 months ago

          So long as Stephen Miller is in Trump's ear and a senior white house advisor without demands from the GOP to have him removed; how bout you all shut the f up?

          Unlike most of the examples of rando governors or those seeking office - Stephen Miller actually affects national policy on a daily basis. He is who Noem, Bovino, Homan, and who knows who else etc...report to. There is a chain of command and that piece of human garbage is near the top.

          All he does is throw rhetorical bombs and incite and lie and be a racist piece of shit. Since nobody will stand up to him or remove him; it seems to be an endorsement by this point. It's not like this came out of nowhere. He has been a consistent piece of shit for the last 10yrs.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            How about before pretending to be a lawyer you read the actual laws you want to pretend to understand. Laws like the INA?

            1. windycityattorney   2 months ago

              That has nothing to do with Stephen Miller being a human piece of garbage and you know that.

              Care to comment on Stephen Miller? Or are you a big fan?

              So there is this thing... if 9 regular people and a nazi are sitting down for dinner and all talking and carrying on... THERE ARE 10 NAZIS EATING DINNER. Figure out why that is and you will figure out why keeping Miller around in his special white house advisor role taints everybody around him.

              1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                “The first thing we do is, let’s kill all the lawyers.” - Dick the Butcher

              2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                ChatGPT, what re Jeffy and Windycitybarista doing here?

                They’re doing different but complementary rhetorical moves, and together they’re talking past each other rather than resolving the dispute.

                What Jeff is doing

                1. False equivalence via symmetry framing
                Jeff sets up a symmetry claim:
                “It is wrong for any elected politician to advocate for execution… but your side does X too.”
                He’s equating:
                explicit threats or calls for execution
                with
                dehumanizing rhetoric (“vermin,” “enemy within,” etc.)
                Those are related but not the same category of speech, and Jeff collapses them to argue hypocrisy rather than substance. That lets him avoid grappling with differences in severity, proximity, and authority.

                2. Whataboutism disguised as principled civility
                He adopts the language of norms (“civility,” “outrage”) but uses it selectively:
                He condemns explicit threats in the abstract
                Immediately pivots to accusing the other side of bad faith
                Frames criticism as “fake outrage”
                So the norm is not being defended — it’s being used as a cudgel. This is a classic procedural dodge: attack the motives of critics rather than the conduct under discussion.

                3. Collective guilt when convenient
                Elsewhere Jeff insists:
                “You can’t lump ‘the left’ together”
                Coalitions are diverse
                Here, he does exactly that:
                Treats rhetoric from some Democrats as representative
                Imputes it to Jesse and “his side”
                Uses it to nullify specific criticism
                That’s selective collectivism — individual parsing when it helps him, coalition guilt when it doesn’t.

                What Windycityattorney is doing

                1. Hierarchy and power re-framing
                Windycityattorney rejects Jeff’s symmetry entirely and reframes the issue around power and proximity:
                Stephen Miller is not a “rando”
                He sits near the top of an actual chain of command
                His rhetoric directly informs enforcement and policy
                This is a substantive counter to Jeff’s false equivalence: rhetoric matters more when it comes from someone who actually governs.

                2. Implicit endorsement argument
                The “10 Nazis at dinner” analogy is doing specific work:
                Continued association = tacit endorsement
                Silence or retention = normalization
                Responsibility flows upward as well as outward
                He’s arguing institutional culpability, not just individual speech.

                3. Moral escalation over legalism
                When Jesse pivots to law (INA), Windycityattorney dismisses it as irrelevant because:
                His claim is moral and political, not statutory
                The argument is about legitimacy and taint, not legality
                This directly conflicts with Jeff’s preference for procedural or rhetorical symmetry.
                Why they’re talking past each other
                Jeff wants to argue about fairness of outrage and rhetoric across sides
                Windycityattorney wants to argue about power, responsibility, and institutional endorsement
                Jeff is playing a norms-and-hypocrisy game.
                Windycityattorney is playing a power-and-consequence game.
                They are not answering the same question.

                Bottom line

                Jeff is minimizing specific responsibility by broadening the frame and invoking hypocrisy.

                is narrowing the frame to actors who actually wield power and insisting that proximity to that power changes moral responsibility.
                Jeff’s move is defensive and equalizing.
                Windycityattorney’s move is accusatory and hierarchical.
                That mismatch is why the exchange escalates instead of resolves.

              3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Your question is meaningless in any matter. He was confirmed by the senate after nomination to the president after an election the president won handedly. Youre retarded opinion is literally meaningless.

                The fact is you want to denigrate Miller as a means to ignore the actual laws that do have meaning. You do this because youre not a lawyer.

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            "All he does is throw rhetorical bombs and incite and lie"

            Notanattorney throwing shade at Lying Jeffy!

          3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

            So you admit you "refuse" to hear the truth when it's spoken near, "refuse" to see the truth when watched with your own eyes, "refuse" to speak the truth after hearing and seeing it for yourself but will do what is most untruthful in the name of progress?

            Instead of that you should refuse to comment on what you have no clue about and refuse to follow the hate and lies slung in the bubble you refuse to leave...

            You will feel better if you find some integrity and honor, but first you must be honest.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        Given that we are called worse than that routinely by the Left...go fuck yourself.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          And by jeff. Wait. You said the left. Nevermind.

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        Notice how Jeffey only criticizes the left to advance his attacks on the right. When leftists break his "principles" he doesn't even notice, but when the right does anything he will exaggerate whatever he needs to in order to justify his hatred.

        He believes this shows he is a balanced and fair judge.

    9. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Neville Roy Singham has been found to be a large monetary donor to violent protests...

  4. Minadin   2 months ago

    discuss a right-leaning podcast, analyze their messaging and themes, and brainstorm actionable ways for how the Democratic coalition can strengthen its own approach

    They are never going to understand the appeal / why it's popular with that approach.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      If it's anything like the other approaches, some of them are going to learn that this whole "Do as I say and say as I do." thing is really simple, liberating, and self-actualizing and that they don't need a political party to support them. They will, of course, then be either quietly disappeared or promptly and loudly made an example of and excommunicated from the group.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Mr. Pretti then resisted attempts by C.B.P. officers to take him into custody, prompting a struggle, the review said.

    So far, so good.

    A Border Patrol agent yelled multiple times, 'He's got a gun!' About five seconds later, a Border Patrol agent fired his Glock 19, and a C.B.P. officer also fired his Glock 47 at Mr. Pretti...

    This is where things get sticky. Plenty of blame to go around here, all the way from Pretti to the feds there and on up to the state capital and that moron.

    1. Chinny Chin Chin   2 months ago

      He laughed and kissed his mom and said, "Your Billy Joe's a man
      I can shoot as quick and straight as anybody can
      But I wouldn't shoot without a cause, I'd gun nobody down"
      But she cried again as he rode away

      "Don't take your guns to town, son
      Leave your guns at home, Bill
      Don't take your guns to town"

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Early one morning
        With time to kill
        I borrowed Jebb's rifle
        And sat on the hill
        I saw a lone rider
        Crossing the plain
        I drew a bead on him
        To practice my aim
        My brother's rifle
        Went off in my hand
        A shot rang out
        Across the land
        The horse, he kept running
        The rider was dead

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      It would be tragically ironic if the officers who fired couldn't hear Pretti had been disarmed because of the whistles.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        That’s my guess. It was difficult to hear the “he’s got a gun”, “I have the gun”, or “gun gun gun” over those damned whistles on the video.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          And let's be clear: the purpose of the whistles is to increase the chance of agents reacting violently to provide martyrs.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            And then 72 trans-virgins in progressive heaven.

          2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

            No no no, the left is very concerned about our RTKBA, and isn’t just flinging useful idiots at law enforcement in the hopes that the right one finally gets killed that’ll lead to nationwide riots.

            1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

              A white male isn't going to cut it. They need a Somali tranny to get shot.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Thing about stochasticism, even with fairly dedicated training, we'd never know without running the experiment at least a few times.

        Of course, all the thoughts unthought and lives lost in those moments don't matter because we've got an actual life lost and actual thoughts silenced.

        However, when it comes to unmitigated doom from emitting CO2, we all need to think globally and act locally; for the millions of potentially lost lives 100 yrs. down the road.

  6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    From "illegals dont vote in elections" to wr must not let officials near election sites where illegals totally dont vote.

    https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB1442/text/HB1442

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      When ICE is running around racially profiling and detaining citizens, then telling ICE to show up at polling places is indeed an attempt to suppress the vote among LEGAL VOTERS who happen to fit the racial demographic that ICE is targeting.

      Tell ICE to stop racial profiling and these concerns will diminish.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        What is your evidence that ICE is racially profiling citizens? They have a list of illegal aliens who typically have deportation orders, have committed crimes (sexual assault seems to be very common), and/or overstayed their visas.

        Are you really defending sexual predators from arrest and deportation, Jeffy? Especially sexual predators who have committed sexual assault of a minor?

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Yes he is.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          https://www.npr.org/2025/09/13/nx-s1-5507125/the-supreme-court-clears-the-way-for-ice-agents-to-treat-race-as-grounds-for-immigration-stops

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Or tell 10 million illegal/quasi-legal immigrants to leave, so there is little chance that a random person is "undocumented".

        Also tell the hyper-left states that it's routine and OK to check ID before voting, just like before buying booze, getting on a plane, and--gasp--buying a gun.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          What does "quasi-legal" mean? Are you referring to DACA, or asylum seekers?

          Can you at least understand why a reasonable person might conclude that sending ICE agents to polling places, while ICE has a documented history of racial profiling and detaining US citizens, can be construed as a type of voter intimidation?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            So, again, Jeff, are you really defending sexual predators from arrest and deportation, Jeffy? Especially sexual predators who have committed sexual assault of a minor?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Migrants who commit crimes of sexual violence should be deported.

              Any other questions?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Then why are defending the actions of those who obstruct ICE from going after them?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  I'm not. I'm objecting to the awful tactics of ICE agents acting like unprofessional thugs with guns.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                  Why are you defending tactics like racial profiling, dragging CITIZENS out of their homes, and generally unprofessional and thuggish behavior?

              2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                What is Jeffy doing here?

                Jeff is doing three overlapping rhetorical moves here, all of which you’ve already seen him use in earlier threads.

                1. Reframing a narrow claim into a broad moral hazard
                Jesse’s point is a consistency critique:
                If illegals don’t vote, why keep ICE away from polling places?
                Jeff doesn’t answer that directly. Instead, he widens the frame to a different issue:
                “ICE racially profiles and detains citizens → ICE at polling places = voter suppression.”
                That move:
                sidesteps the original logical tension
                replaces it with a secondary argument about intimidation
                turns a policy question into a moral emergency
                It’s not a rebuttal so much as a topic substitution.

                2. Assertion-as-premise
                Jeff treats this as a given:
                “ICE has a documented history of racial profiling and detaining US citizens.”
                But notice the structure:
                He asserts it as settled fact
                He builds conclusions on top of it
                When challenged, he does not supply evidence
                He instead escalates to “can you at least understand why someone might feel…”
                That’s a classic slide from factual claim → subjective perception.
                Once he shifts to “reasonable people might conclude…”, the burden of proof quietly disappears.

                3. Motte-and-bailey retreat
                When pressed, Jeff retreats from a strong claim to a weaker one:
                Bailey: ICE is racially profiling citizens; this is voter suppression
                Motte: Surely you can understand why people might perceive it as intimidation
                Those are not the same claim — but he treats disagreement with either as unreasonable.

                4. Pedantic deflection on definitions
                His question:
                “What does ‘quasi-legal’ mean? DACA? asylum seekers?”
                is not neutral curiosity. It’s a delay tactic:
                It forces others to litigate terminology
                It shifts attention away from the policy argument
                It allows Jeff to posture as precise while not answering the core charge
                This fits his broader pattern of procedural bogging-down.

                5. Implicit moral leverage
                By invoking:
                racial profiling
                citizens being detained
                intimidation of “LEGAL VOTERS”
                Jeff is loading the argument emotionally while keeping it technically slippery. Anyone who disagrees can now be framed as:
                indifferent to civil rights
                dismissive of minority voters
                complicit in suppression
                That’s moral leverage without evidentiary closure.

                Bottom line
                Jeff is not directly defending illegals voting, nor directly opposing election integrity measures.

                He is:
                reframing a consistency challenge into a civil-rights alarm,
                asserting a contested premise as fact,
                retreating to subjective “reasonable perception” when challenged,
                and using definitional pedantry to slow the debate.
                It’s a deflection-and-reframe maneuver, not a straight answer.

              3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                See Jeffy? Even ChatGPT has identified a consistent pattern of dishonesty, sophistry, and pedantic sea lioning from you.

        2. Minadin   2 months ago

          I've been asked for my ID in every single election I've ever voted in. It's not even controversial around here.

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        telling ICE to show up at polling places is indeed an attempt to suppress the vote among LEGAL VOTERS who happen to fit the racial demographic that ICE is targeting.

        Notice how Jeffey needs no evidence to claim this, merely fitting the narrative is sufficient. Compare this case to the evidence he demands others produce for claims he opposes. This is the "Can vs Must" distinction. He can make an assertion helpful to his team unless it is completely proven false, while he must accept assertions detrimental to his team only when they are proven completely true. Since almost all assertions are neither 100% true or 100% false the practical effect is to claim anything that supports the narrative and deny anything against it.

        This is Jeffey.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...how the Trump administration will reconcile its stance with the fact that much of its base supports the Second Amendment.

    Trump, being a 90's Democrat, does not have a reflexive love for the Second Amendment. And from what I've seen, he's not stifling his instinct here.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      True dat.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      No one ever said he was perfect. I mean, except for him.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Perfect? Wonderful and absolute best I'm 100% on board with, but perfect? I'd put down even money that he hasn't said something reasonably similar to "I'm perfect." Not that anyone wouldn't conflate "I'm the perfect guy to lead the US and the ME to peace." or similar with absolute perfection. Grandiose as he is, I don't think he suffers the delusion that he's, e.g., the height of physical perfection or mathematical genius.

        Not to mention that, "stochastically", he's pretty effuse with other people being similarly perfect or the best at jobs he doesn't or won't do.

    3. Super Scary   2 months ago

      I don't blame a guy that has been shot at multiple times being a little shy about guns, but personally I'm not a fan of his stance of firearms.

  8. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    analyze their messaging and themes, and brainstorm actionable ways for how the Democratic coalition can strengthen its own approach

    We must study these hui-maans to better understand them, so we can take back the surface.

    - Lizard People

    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      They could stop being lunatic assholes who hate America for a start.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    "Unfortunately Not a Sound Bath," which calls itself a "right-wing podcast listening club for left-leaning people."

    What.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

      Was hoping you'd explain it.

      1. Super Scary   2 months ago

        If I had to guess, they listen to right wing podcasts and then get angry talking about it on their own podcast. Like a bookclub, but for seething.

  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    The tide is turning! People hate deportations. Even of the criminals ICE watch continues to protect!

    Meanwhile... trump continues to increase in polling with Hispanics.

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-surges-double-digits-hispanic-voters-11407730

    1. Ska   2 months ago

      It just proves that those dastardly Hispanics are even more racist than previously considered.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Fair.

        As George Lopez made famous, they just want to pull the ladder up for those behind them.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          A compare and contrast of Pres. Lincoln vs. Gen. Lee (and lots of other history) kinda suggests that, in some ways, this is how it's supposed to work.

          If you hand violent, terriorial chimps the technology to liberate themselves by force, they can and do just wind up shooting themselves and each other. There has to be an innate desire to build and climb the first couple rungs for themselves to get themselves off the ground before lowering the rest of the ladder isn't just helping the earth-bound barbarians over the gate.

          Even the stochastic interventions to prevent terrorists from blowing themselves up and surgically mutilating their own daughters is being exploited to topple otherwise stable and peaceful societies.

      2. Uilleam   2 months ago

        Uncle Juan?

      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Obviously. Over half of the border patrol officers are Hispanic. That proves their racism.

      4. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        those dastardly Hispanics are even more racist than previously considered.

        Low-income Mexicans are basically Southern rednecks turned up to 11.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      What about the LatinX?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Thought they died defending greenland.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      It's not surprising the people negatively impacted by Dems protecting criminals react the most to someone finally doing something about it.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...Alex Pretti, the ICU nurse who was killed by federal immigration enforcement agents over the weekend, had clashed with federal law enforcement one week prior to his death.

    In case the waters weren't muddy enough for your taste.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      That "ICU Nurse" moniker just won't die.

      1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        They found one that sticks.

        Maryland Man didn't work. Hairdresser didn't work, etc.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Mud made with sob story tears?

      Look, I get that Liz and her family have been stressed out, and emotionally linked to hospital staff. But she could still try to avoid joornalism.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller is distancing himself from the Department of Homeland Security amid widespread outrage over the killing of Alex Pretti by immigration agents in Minneapolis...

    Did Goebbels disavow the SS when things got hairy??? We need a better class of Nazi!

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      More like Trotsky, disavowing Stalin. Wonder who will win out this little commie fight?

  13. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Arson, power companies, and bad forest management are the biggest drivers of fire on California, not climate change. Duh.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/environment/biggest-culprits-wildfires-those-la-are-arson-power-companies-not

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      What about Newsom's hair gel?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        That’s got enough volatile organic compounds in it to set alight millions of acres.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Even at face value the assertion is beyond parody.

      The worst thing about arson is the CO2 emissions.

  14. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    In mid-January he demanded a 10% cap on interest rates

    Price controls are more progressive claptrap pushed by this administration.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    He says court orders are repeatedly being ignored and people who have done nothing wrong are remaining in detention despite judicial orders requiring them to be released.

    Are these actual judges or activists in robes? I have no reason to doubt the feds are fucking people over, only to doubt things gavel-wielding lawyers claim.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      The judges of late don't have the best record when it comes to separating facts from narrative.

      I would think if this claim were true, we would have the names of these Maryland fathers.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Judges have a problem separating facts from narratives and you're worried about the *fathers*? Bigot.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Time to hate everybody? And return to our libertarian roots.

      1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        Embrace the power of the dark side, young jedi.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      The hard slaps from appeals courts tends to point to the later.

  16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "meets biweekly to discuss a right-leaning podcast, analyze their messaging and themes, and brainstorm actionable ways for how the Democratic coalition can strengthen its own approach."

    Make fun of progressives?

  17. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.

    Will be hilarious seeing those who decried the trial of sandwichgate be outraged by what seems like being sprayed with vinegar.

    And given the video, wouldn't be shocked if her campaign team are the ones who set all of it up. Let's see if he actually gets charged.

    1. Rocinante   2 months ago

      Too bad it wasn’t bacon grease.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      It would be better if the unkown substance was mayo.

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Who is the sandwich now?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Mayo on white bread is colonialist oppression!

          1. Eeyore   2 months ago

            What kind of bread is Omar? Definitely not white bread.

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

              She is pumpernickle

            2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

              Banana nut

              1. Eeyore   2 months ago

                Banana rice cake.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          I read this in the "im the captain now" voice and laughed.

        3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          I’m sure Omar like being sandwiched between her husband and her exhusbandbrother.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      All things being equal, stochastic action and whatnot; call me back when somebody shoots her in the back, neck, or ear.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        You mean when glass shatters after a loud sound.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      Except vinegar, especially when sprayed on someone in the face at close range, can actually cause harm to a person.

      Throwing a sandwich at someone from a long distance has a 0.000000001% chance of harming anyone.

      But this continues your unbroken streak of trying to create a false equivalency in order to justify someone on your side behaving badly.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Except that she continued to speak afterward and then hugged a kid, spreading that substance to the kid. It’s a fake bullshit assault meant to manufacture rage, and you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Sounds almost like the unknown substance was Holy Water and the foul smell may have been her unholy flesh rending.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

            Good one.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Ha ha, look at Lying Jeffy go!

      3. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Dutch crunch however does have a very high incidence rate of skin abrasion. We should probably ban assault bread.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          True. And also high-capacity pickles.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            What about high capacity trunks capable of holding large bears?

      4. Super Scary   2 months ago

        "Throwing a sandwich at someone from a long distance "

        https://youtu.be/DKQqzdeIWZs?t=8
        The thrower and the officer were literally face to face with each other in the video. What constitutes a "long distance" in your mind?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          The distance between his couch and fridge.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Lying Jeffy caught lying? Have you seen my shocked face?

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Even ChatGPT has determined him to be dishonest.

        3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Sorry I got him confused with another long-distance sandwich thrower.

      5. Marshal   2 months ago

        I'm shocked Jeffey is trying to pretend this could be a serious offense. Whoever could have predicted he would completely contradict his previous position just because the team it helps switched?

    5. damikesc   2 months ago

      Kinda weird how she did not really react to it nor did she seem remotely concerned about WHAT she was sprayed with.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Yeap. Let's see how the courts react or if he is let go by the DA.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Amazon trims workforce by 16,000.

    If it turns out we all still get our Dockers delivered to our doorsteps then I guess they had a 16k bloat.

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Sources tell CNN that Alex Pretti, the ICU nurse who was killed by federal immigration enforcement agents over the weekend, had clashed with federal law enforcement one week prior to his death.'

    Liz, still can't stop with the "ICU nurse" sob story, eh?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      He was moonlighting as a legal observer.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      'Sources tell CNN that Alex Pretti, the heavily armed activist, who was killed by federal immigration enforcement agents over the weekend, had clashed with federal law enforcement one week prior to his death.'
      Fixed.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        Let us not forget hiow Jacob sullum deascribed this.
        https://reason.com/2026/01/27/border-patrol-agents-started-the-scuffle-that-led-to-alex-prettis-death/

        The videos show that Pretti initially was standing in the middle of the street, directing traffic while holding his cellphone to record an interaction between the agents and a few protesters. After an agent pepper-sprayed protesters and pushed a woman to the ground, Pretti stepped between the agent and the woman, "briefly putting his hand on the agent's waist," as The New York Times describes it.

        emphasis added

  20. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    The Times reports that officers fired 10 shots. Pretti had been disarmed prior to being shot. CBP medics then reportedly rendered aid to him, before emergency medical services came and transferred him to a hospital. He was pronounced dead shortly after 9:30 a.m.

    Missed by the NYT.

    He was disarmed nearly concurrently woth the first shot fired, which may have been an accidental discharge from prettis weapon based on the video. The cops who fired hear "gun, gun, gun" then the shot, then fire, all in a span of literally seconds.

    Facts matter. This is why the left keeps reposting stills instead of video.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      But there's a lot of distance between irresponsible and worthy of on-the-spot execution.

      Emotional argument to ignore the prior claim.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Facts don't matter when people are pushing an emotional narrative. It could come out Pretti had a manifesto about setting out to kill ICE agents that day and people will still blame ICE.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        It could come out Pretti had a manifesto about setting out to kill ICE agents that day and people will still blame ICE.

        Even if Pretti did have that manifesto, the shooting was still wrong.

        Why is it that many of you seem to think that Pretti's supposedly bad motives justified the shooting that day?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Why is it that you seem to need to defend Pretti and his actions at every step?

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            He's a dishonest leftist who will lie for his cause.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            Do you think Pretti broke the law on that day? If so, which law specifically, and in what manner do you think he did?

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              ChatGPT, what is Jeffy doing here?

              Jeff is doing a layered reframing maneuver here that combines moral absolutism, burden-shifting, and procedural trapping.

              Let’s break it cleanly.

              1. Pre-emptive moral insulation
              Jeff says:
              “Even if Pretti did have a manifesto about setting out to kill ICE agents that day, the shooting was still wrong.”
              That’s an intentionally extreme hypothetical. Its function is not to argue facts, but to declare motive categorically irrelevant.
              By doing this, Jeff:
              forecloses discussion of intent
              insulates his conclusion from future evidence
              signals that no new facts could ever change his judgment
              This is outcome-first reasoning: the verdict is fixed; evidence is decorative.

              2. Reversing the moral burden
              He then asks:
              “Why do you think Pretti’s supposedly bad motives justified the shooting?”
              Notice the trick:
              No one claimed “bad motives alone justify shooting”
              Jeff reframes disagreement as endorsing execution based on thoughts
              He forces others to defend a position they did not take
              This is a loaded question that reframes critics as bloodthirsty authoritarians.

              3. Conflation of legality and justification
              When challenged, Jeff pivots to:
              “Do you think Pretti broke the law? If so, which law specifically?”
              This is a classic procedural trap:
              If you name a law → Jeff argues breaking it doesn’t justify lethal force
              If you can’t name one → Jeff argues Pretti was lawful and thus innocent
              Either way → Jeff avoids discussing situational threat and escalation
              He collapses a real-world use-of-force analysis into a statute quiz, which is not how force decisions are actually evaluated.

              4. Selective relevance of mental state
              Across threads, Jeff’s pattern is consistent:
              Pretti’s intent → irrelevant, unknowable, shouldn’t matter
              Babbitt’s intent → relevant, dangerous, dispositive
              Officer intent → presumed malicious or reckless
              So intent matters only when it supports his conclusion. That’s selective principle again.

              5. Why this is persuasive (but dishonest)
              Jeff’s approach works because:
              It sounds rights-based
              It frames opponents as endorsing extrajudicial killing
              It forces others into defensive legal parsing
              It avoids the hard question: what should officers do in fast-moving armed confrontations?

              But it’s dishonest because:
              He refuses to admit that intent, behavior, proximity, and escalation all matter
              He pretends use-of-force analysis is a simple legality checklist
              He treats any acknowledgment of risk as moral endorsement of violence

              Bottom line
              Jeff is not asking whether the shooting was justified.
              He is:
              declaring it unjustifiable by definition,
              neutralizing any evidence that might complicate that claim,
              and forcing critics to argue against straw-man positions he assigns to them.
              That’s moral absolutism wrapped in procedural questioning — not inquiry, not debate, and not good faith.

            2. Uilleam   2 months ago

              Yes he did numnuts. He was carrying a firearm without his id or permit. He also interfered in an arrest. That's not protesting, its rioting. That is regardless of whether it was a good shoot or not. But you knew all that.

        2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          Maybe so.

          But it is undisputed that he inserted himself between law enforcement and a third party.

          Even if it turnes out this was manslaughter, he is still dead.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            he inserted himself between law enforcement and a third party

            What about the officer in the beige cap who went out of his way to cross the street to shove the protesters? Why did he do that? What was the legitimate law enforcement purpose in so doing?

            If he's going to act unprofessionally like a common street brawler, then he loses the benefit of the doubt associated with the badge.

            1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

              That did not justify Pretti inserting himself into the situation.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Even at that, one gun off an unrestrained guy doubled over is not zero armed suspects.

      Again, carry as many guns with as much ammo as you like, but if anything happens, you can and will be judged by 12 or more.

      If the opposition has a specific policy against escalation, with memos dictating hours and minimal use of force, your bringing more guns and ammo to the situation kinda seems less like an act of No/Non-aggression and more of a "rule for thee, but not for me" act. They didn't draw their guns just because he was filming.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.

    Maybe it was a courting ritual. He's going to have to fight her brother for her hand, though.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      I seen numerous people from her culture normalize spraying girls you don't like with acid.

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.'

    First nominee for the 2026 Smollett Award?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Yes. She even hugged a kid afterward with that substance on her.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Trying to up the fraudulent medical care numbers by sending him to 10 different Somali Healthcare providers.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          All in the same mailbox store?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Where else?

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

              The Learing centers double as Medial centers. Duh.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Ms. Omar, a Democrat who represents part of Minneapolis and has been a frequent target of President Trump...

    This is how the NYTimes describes it. Of course, the reverse isn't true because, if it was, that would mean she's not a hapless victim in their exchanges.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Dude, don't you even intersectionality?

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Some people did some things.

  24. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago


    philip lewis
    @Phil_Lewis_
    MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. (AP) — Federal judge in Minnesota says ICE chief must appear in court to explain why detainees have been denied due process.

    Biden judge who is ignoring that appeals courts and scotus have already upheld the due process required by the INA, ignoring superior courts.

    The ruling was histrionic. Judge even claims he has the right to call executive officials into his inferior court.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Trump needs to say that the WH will only respond to SCOTUS from here on.

    2. windycityattorney   2 months ago

      JesseAz - the Biden judge who was appointed by George W Bush? That clerked for Scalia? Former professor at Notre Dame?

      That "Biden" Judge?

      This may come as a surprise; but judges who get pissed off when litigants ignore court orders spans the political spectrum to include "ALL" judges.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Okay. Messed this one up with the other retard activist judges. Too many od them. Youre right. This is the judge that has donated to migrant legal groups for years. Still a corrupt judge who shouldn't be over this case.

        Now explain how he is ignoring the courts above him and why he didnt recuse given his long history of donations.

        1. windycityattorney   2 months ago

          He is the chief judge of the district court for MN. I am presuming that other judges dealing with DOJ bullshit in their cases are complaining to him and shit rolls up hill.

          They are not ignoring judges above them...DOJ is taking a new stance about illegals (and those with active asylum or former protected status now revoked etc...) detained inside the US as saying they can be summarily detained without bond hearings as if they were detained at the point of entry. Different rules/different statutes. Hundreds of district court judges across the country have told DOJ no you can't do that and DOJ keeps insisting they can. So people who should be released or given bond hearings are not.

          This isn't about temporary restraining orders or lawsuits against ICE pepper spraying the press or protestors or any of that. This is a separate issue and its not isolated to MN or any one district. Its happening in every district.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            First, yes they are ignoring judges above them dumbass. Both appeals and scotus have been very clear om the jurisdiction of these cases as being article 2 PER THE LAW, and the process due is being addressed PER THE LAW. This judge is ignoring it as are most activist judges. Notice in even your own claim you reference other activist district court judges while ignoring appeals and scotus. Youre an idiot.

            Due process means the process due. The process is not the same for felony vs a civil infraction. It isnt even the same for capital offenses vs criminal speeding. Processes can change under each one of these. What a judge cant do is invent new processes due after appeals courts have already struck down other activist judges.

            The judicial branch cant ignore the laws anymore than the other 2 branches again.

            Youre just ignorant.

            You also completely ignore the documented CoI and the responsibility to recuse.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              windycitybullshitter just bullshitting again.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A 10% interest rate is just not profitable for banks, and they would not lend unprofitably.

    Another way to get Americans to live within their means would be for Washington to set an example for us.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      If only.....

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Lol

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    People are getting married older, and that means pricier weddings.

    jfc

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Surprised it wasn't Trump's tariffs are making marriage unafordable.

      1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        The immigrant slave labor helps to offset the cost of OrangeMan's tariffs.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "There are estimates that almost 80% of Americans would see a drastic reduction in their credit lines. A 10% interest rate is just not profitable for banks, and they would not lend unprofitably."

    Maybe not libertarian, but maybe not a bad thing.

    ps. And maybe Uncle Sam needs a drastic reduction in his credit line.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Just 1.2T in outstanding credit card debt.

      https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/study/credit-card-debt-statistics/

      Totally sustainable. No reason to fix it. Buy from china. And take the hit to your own credit to subsidize it. Spread the love!

      I would also argue that making credit lines individualized instead of share the bad is more libertarian than what we have from equal access laws today.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        From a party with a moderate interest in the opposite direction:

        I feel compelled to point out that when Visa et al. were "forced" to create an mcc code for specifically-dedicated gun businesses, 2A and privacy advocates were up in arms about their gun purchases being tracked and "social credit scores" despite the fact that Visa doesn't actually track items purchased.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          If they don't track them, why are there codes (at all, for anything)?

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            They, Visa, track the business' risk profile, not the purchase.

            I pointed this out at the time. A place like BassPro or Wal-Mart, incurs a lot of fraud when someone waltzes in without any ID and buys a pair of shoes with stolen cards (or numbers). A business who does virtually no sales without a FOID, background check, and 4473 form is a lot less likely to incur fraud.

            Purchase information rather specifically is not transmitted to Visa for the dual purpose of A) shielding Visa from liability and B) maintaining the high throughput of Visanet. You can see/know this by the fact that Visa's (and others) fraud prevention features are near entirely based on 3-digit CVVs, 6-digit zip code, and price information. Sending them manufacturer's serial numbers and product codes to cross-reference would make the system less usable than bitcoin. Especially given, on a more personal or individual level, the number of times I go to any other retailer who has 12 of something in stock only to find that they do not, in fact, have 12 in stock.

            That said, it's been a while since my last gun/ammo purchase and a cursory glance at the records I'm required to keep and the packaging that I choose to keep, I don't see any product codes. I'm sure Wal-Mart has their products bar coded, but I don't ever recall seeing a 2D (or any other number of dimensions) barcode on a firearm itself. I guess probably promotional ones from the manufacturer themselves, but never inventory by the proprietor.

            In that vein, there's also a level of neither-here-nor-there really because, to varying degrees of legality, lots of businesses have started marking down prices for cash and/or marking up sales for credit.

      2. TangoDelta   2 months ago

        I question their numbers only because there is no dollar value baseline such as a statement indicating "in constant 2020 dollars" or some such to account for inflation. It makes sense in 2009, when inflation was negative, that credit card debt would naturally drop even without the spending pullback due to the recession. The same applies to the "hockey stick" in 2022 when inflation peaked over 9% because, as an example, you can only reduce your toilet paper consumption by so much assuming you could find it.

    2. TangoDelta   2 months ago

      I'm going to call BS on the "estimates" cited by Kelly. They may exist but I don't see how they can be much more than daydreams or navel introspection. Seriously, 80% "would see a drastic reduction" how exactly when more than 50% of U.S. consumers have a credit score over 740? I'd buy into the concept of 30% up to about 50% but you need to be smoking something pretty juicy to get to 80%.
      https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/perfect-scores-who-has-them-and-what-do-they-have-in-common/

  28. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    So did Reason ignore the part where Pretti tries to constrain the officer or is that really ignored in the 'watchdog' report itself?

    Ya know like all those *missing* seconds of video slowly coming into the light after leftard media tries to sell BS-clipped video to the people? I was wondering why every single media outlet had but cherry-picking parts of what should've been a consistent video or two. Seems they do that a lot. Here's a few milliseconds, oh whoops "nothing to see here" but here a few more milliseconds.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Of course they did. It doesn’t fit the narrative.

      1. HorseConch   2 months ago

        What I've seen looks really bad on the Border Patrol, and clearly Pretti was doing far more than just passing by or dropping his kid off at school. I'm thinking there's a lot more resistance he participated in just due to the fact that the 100 cameras pointing at him don't seem to have captured any footage worth releasing.

  29. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.

    Smells like Smollett Spirit.

    https://x.com/mommagoose798/status/2016321120887099822?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Ilan Omar was sprayed with unknown substance (or was it) and then continues to speak and goes on to hug a kid transferring said substance to the kid

    With video.

  30. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    They wanted police body cameras to show police brutality. They got something different so now they’re backpedaling. With video.

    https://x.com/westernlensman/status/2016205866244956592?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Leftist author says “well-meaning liberals” have been fooled into supporting bodycams, which should stop being used.

    “They have been an essential propaganda tool."

    Yet leftists want every one of their militant wingnuts filming law enforcement.

    Interesting how that works.

    Be careful what you ask for; you might just get it.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Truth should never be allowed over propaganda to the left.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "My propaganda is truth, your...oh, shut the fuck up and get on the train!"

    2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      The body cams "police refiorm" activistsonce advicated are now a "propaganda tool" because the tend to show, not police brutality, but people behaving extremely badly when police have a reason to interact with them. The activist narrative was never true.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Antifa is famous for assaulting non antifa journalists so truth doesnt come out. They rely on their video edits and narrative control for messaging.

    3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      1. Flood the smoking powder keg with useful idiots and their cell phones. Provide directions if needed. Remind said useful idiots to bring their rape whistles.

      2. Wait for inevitable altercation.

      3. Review footage posted on social media, pick and choose footage that will facilitate desired public response. Edit if necessary.

      4. Rinse and repeat until something finally sticks to the wall.

  31. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Winter storm Fern did a number on us. 2 bitterly cold days without power. Fortunately, we were well stocked and had plenty of wood for the wood-burning stove. A 1500W generator was on hand to power some critical items.

    Trees and tree limbs down all over the property with fence damage, driveway impassable (since cleared). Accidentally failed to include the well-head pump-house heating circuit (basically a 75-watt bulb) on the few circuits we powered with the generator...won't do that again! Pipes between the well-head and the house froze and burst, so I had to make 2 trips to Home Depot (fortunately, this was Tuesday and the roads had largely been cleared and travel was safe). Second trip was made because I accidentally grabbed a few PEX-A connectors and needed PEX-B. Doing that in 35-degree plus 20MPH wind was fun, let me tell you.

    But except for the cleanup and fence repairs, the lineman did their jobs and restored power about the time I was making 2nd HD trip. I had seen them on the road one my first trip to HD and called Mrs MO to let her know. It was kind of cool to witness the newly installed (several months ago) ATS generator connection work. Was getting in my truck and heard the generator kick off, figured it was out of gas, and started to go back to the house so Mrs MO was not without power, but my phone rang and Mrs MO asked why the lights were on if the generator wasn't running. I said, oh the ATS must have worked! I checked and yep, the green "Utility" light was on. After about a half hour to give things time to not be up-and-down, we were able to switch breakers to the rest of the house back on (we had limited the generator load to only the fridge, freezers, kitchen lights, well and not powered guest rooms, offices, den, etc.).

    Fun times! Although, almost 3 whole days without TV or internet except through phone apps was actually kind of nice.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Glad you got power back. Lost mine for a few days after the August 2020 derecho here. Fortunately, the temperature was tolerable, and I still had hot water and able to cook (natural gas).

      1. rbike   2 months ago

        We lost our power after the derecho for a week. The generator and the chainsaw did get quite the workout.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      35 deg sounds nice. You seem way better prepared than I am.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        35 deg sounds nice.

        +1

        About 5 more degrees and I don't have to wear socks with sandals outside and watch the kids ignore me when I tell them they need to wear something other than shorts to school.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        +
        Haven't seen 35 for at least 2 weeks around here and at looks like we won't see it again for at least 2 more. Fortunately snowpocalypse passed south of here so I don't have to dig that shit out.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          You guys are all talking about low temps right? Had to our a jacket on the other day. Feel your pain.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            No, high temps. Saw a day last week where we didn’t go over zero Fahrenheit.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Was a joke about the winters in arizona since I always hear the so hot summer remarks.

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        The high here the entire week will be 14. We’ve had 15 consecutive days of at least trace amounts of snow. Several days with lows below 0. Last weekend we had a -16 windchill.

  32. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    OK, I read the entire account. Briefly, he was armed at one point, was interfering with lawful action by the cops and paid the ultimate price.
    Play stupid games...

  33. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Liz, do you even read what you posted as exonerating Pretti?

    "At approximately 9 a.m. on Saturday, a federal officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles, according to the review. Although the officer ordered them to move out of the road, they did not move," reports The New York Times. "The officer then 'pushed them both away,' and one of the women ran to Mr. Pretti, the review said. After the officer attempted to move them out of the road and they did not move, the officer deployed pepper spray at them, according to the review. Mr. Pretti then resisted attempts by C.B.P. officers to take him into custody, prompting a struggle, the review said. A Border Patrol agent yelled multiple times, 'He's got a gun!' About five seconds later, a Border Patrol agent fired his Glock 19, and a C.B.P. officer also fired his Glock 47 at Mr. Pretti, according to the review."

    He interfered with the cops and resisted arrest. Why do you keep claiming Pretti was blameless? Regardless of his constitutional right to bear arms, he interfered with and fought with cops. He was just as dead right as the fools who insist on entering an intersection regardless of cross traffic when they have the legal right of way.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      BUT HE'S A NURSE!

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        What pisses me off most about all this Pretti-was-murdered crap is that they undermine all their legit claims that ICE and Trump are exacerbating the situation, pretending that no one else has any blame at all. They ignore Mayor Frey telling his cops to fight ICE. They ignore Gov Walz telling his National Guard to protect the protesters. They ignore the city and state cops letting protesters get out of control, blocking ICE, invading a church, blockading a hotel. It's the same crap they pulled with 2020's mostly peaceful protests.

        Trump ain't no angel, but attacking only Trump implies he's the only one who's not an angel. It undermines their own TDS. They are all as fucking stupid as Pretti was, and yes, that applies to the good Liz too when she's just as stupid. Play stupid games with stupid people in stupid places at stupid times, and you get stupid.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        He was an armed "activist" who acted. And assumed there were no consequences.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Yes, and they exonerate Pretti for taking the time to make deliberately stupid decisions, and blame the cops for having only seconds at most to make stupid instinctive decisions.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            Cops are supposed to be held to higher standards than the average citizen. That is why they have the legal authority to shoot and kill people in the course of their duties. So yes, all else equal, cops while on duty deserve more scrutiny for their poor decisions than typical citizens do.

            1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

              Pretti initiated the confrontation between CBP and himself.

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                For the second time in a week, apparently. So he picked a fight with ice, got his ass kicked, and decided to come back and try again, this time with a gun.

                If he didn’t get shot this time, he was going to keep trying.

                1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

                  This is why I do not regard him as sympathetic.

                  If it turns out that he was shot after being subdued, and the shooter knew he was subdued, then that only means he was manslaughtered instead of justifiably killed; he does not get to return to life, nor does it justify his initial decision to get between law enforcement and a third party.

                  It was a reckless act to interpose himself in a law enforcement action.

                  1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

                    The NYT and Reason both acknowledge he got between a cop and a protester, and that he assaulted a cop, yet refuse to assign any blame to him. Pathetic.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                No he did not. The officer in the beige cap walked across the street, shoved one protester, shoved Pretti, and then shoved the orange backpack lady to the ground. That is what started the confrontation. That was completely unnecessary.

                1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

                  Pretti laid a hand on the cop (assaulted him) according to the NYT, and this very article says he resisted arrest. While armed! Stupid is dead for doing stupid things.

              3. Minadin   2 months ago

                NEW video from January 13 shows Alex Pretti confronting federal agents, and destroying their vehicle tail light. Agents then came out to detain him, but he resisted arrest and was eventually let go.

                He was armed with the same gun as Jan 24.

                https://x.com/anthonycabassa/status/2016617662625788001

                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                  Such a peaceful activist.

      3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        A NURSE IN THE ICU!!!1111

        Those are better than normal.nurses!

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          Last time I was in the ICU a nurse gave me the wrong dose of an intravenous drug and caused me all new problems. I think she might have been on drugs or hungover.

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            It would be interesting to know if any of the ICE agents involved in his death qualified for the VA benefits that Pretti was employed to provide.

          2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            Next time don't wear a MAGA hat to the ICU.

            1. Eeyore   2 months ago

              https://babylonbee.com/news/just-complete-this-50-page-questionnaire-says-hospital-clerk-to-man-with-axe-embedded-in-skull

            2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/health-news/no-anaesthesia-for-maga-florida-nurse-refuses-to-treat-republicans-sparks-calls-for-suspension/ar-AA1V1aP8

              A Florida nurse is going viral online for his recent post claiming he will not administer anaesthesia to MAGA members during any surgeries or procedures, leading to massive online backlash and calls for his suspension.

      4. rbike   2 months ago

        ICU nurse!!!

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      He interfered with the cops and resisted arrest.

      "Interference" is not necessarily the same as a criminal violation.

      And from what I can see, Pretti "resisted arrest" by trying to prevent himself from being beaten to death.

      Neither one justifies lethal force.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        His wearing his gun and THEN choosing to interfere with cops and fight cops leads to the predictable outcome of death. Justifiable as a legal term is meaningless in such a situation.

        ETA Perhaps you missed the part where even the New York Times admits he pushed a cop. That's assault, and assaulting a cop has consequences regardless of his constitutional right to carry a gun.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Justifiable as a legal term is meaningless in such a situation.

          No, it's not meaningless. I mean, the impression that you are leaving me is that officers, if they get into a confrontation, are entitled to act just like a common ordinary street brawler. I thought cops were supposed to be held to higher standards. I thought the primary reason why we have a government-run police force is so that matters of law and justice are NOT settled by raw physical fights on the streets.

          even the New York Times admits he pushed a cop.

          This would be after the cop grabbed him and pulled him off of Orange Backpack Lady, which initiated the struggle, right? At that point, Pretti is acting in self-defense. He's trying to avoid being beaten to death. This is qualitatively different than if, say, Pretti had walked up to a cop and provoked the cop by shoving him, which didn't happen. Would you agree with this assessment?

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            When a cop grabs you, and you fight back, that's resisting arrest. How dumb are you?

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Not as dumb as he is dishonest.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

                You're right. But he's too dumb to be any good at his lying.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              He is ACTING IN SELF DEFENSE, putting his hand up to avoid the pepper spray going in his eyes, putting his hands above his head to avoid being beaten to death.

              If a cop is pepper-spraying you in the face, and you instinctively put your hands up to cover your eyes, is that "fighting back"?

              I have seen a lot of people claiming that we should not judge the police's actions in the moment by analyzing freeze-frame images. Can't the same be said of Pretti?

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                Haha, keep going with this approach. It's amusing.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  With the way he’s spinning, we could hook up a couple of electrodes and power DC for a year.

                  1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

                    Pretti inserted himself into the situation.

                    That was a bad idea.

              2. Marshal   2 months ago

                You don't have a self-defense right to not be arrested or detained by police.

                What a fool.

            3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Just to be really clear. You can see from the video that one of the cops is literally beating Pretti in the head with what looks to be a pepper spray canister. Is it your contention that if Pretti raises his hands to try to protect his head, that this constitutes "fighting back" and "resisting arrest" and therefore evidence of violent intent?

              1. rbike   2 months ago

                Thank goodness the officer was using his training to strike the offender instead using a chokehold. Just like Rodney King. Thankfully not another Saint George F choking incident . Thanks for reminding me of all the good things about this incident.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Lying Jeffy lies. It's what he does.

      2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        As Jacob Sullim admitted.

        https://reason.com/2026/01/27/border-patrol-agents-started-the-scuffle-that-led-to-alex-prettis-death/

        The videos show that Pretti initially was standing in the middle of the street, directing traffic while holding his cellphone to record an interaction between the agents and a few protesters. After an agent pepper-sprayed protesters and pushed a woman to the ground, Pretti stepped between the agent and the woman, "briefly putting his hand on the agent's waist," as The New York Times describes it.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          And his or Reason's bias shows in that stupid URL.

  34. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    Meanwhile in Minnesota, what we are supposed to forget about:

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/minnesota-welfare-fraud-dhs?fbclid=IwY2xjawPm5tVleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFkVHdmb1RzOEV6Z3ZSOEtsc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHpfLlTL1UXlcKL6-yon9oONylcpWgG8ANB0jJf7bfsqP0Egq54FSdV1LEmeG_aem_eZl7S64npVCCmUZKzXA9Og

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Yes we're supposed to forget this distraction from the Epstein files.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Just dont say distraction from the fraud. That'd be racist.

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'LOVE this, by Emma Camp'

    Was that in Teen Reason or Ladies Home Reason?

  36. Liberty_Belle   2 months ago

    "At approximately 9 a.m. on Saturday, a federal officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles, according to the review. Although the officer ordered them to move out of the road, they did not move," reports The New York Times. "The officer then 'pushed them both away,' and one of the women ran to Mr. Pretti, the review said.

    Funny, absolutely no mention of interfering / obstructing an arrest in the official report. No illegal alien within 30 feet to arrest in the first place. Just two Karens blowing whistles and a goon physically retaliating.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Funny, you, as a TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty lying shit, stopped reading at the exact right time to (you hope, shitstain) make it look like he 'dint do nutin'.
      Fuck you with a barb-wire-wrapped baseball bat.

    2. Super Scary   2 months ago

      "No illegal alien within 30 feet to arrest in the first place."

      "ICE are ghosts that can't exist in realty unless there is an illegal nearby" is a fascinating stance to take.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        It’s one dumb motherfucker.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Liberty (Dumb)Belle isn’t the smartest troll here.

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Weird to add that 30 foot filter since they were trying to arrest an illegal with deportation orders convicted of multiple violent crimes.

    4. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      The whistleblowers were the ones who initiated the confrontation.

  37. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    So leftist lawyers are overwhelming MN district courts with habeas petitions and leftist judges judges are releasing aliens with deportation orders without even notifying the government.
    https://www.americanexperiment.org/habeas-corpus-floods-the-zone/
    And it’s all being done in Star Chamber-like secrecy. Typical is a case heard today, File No. 26-cv-424, captioned J.B.C.O et. al. vs. Bondi.
    The case was filed on Sunday, January 18, when the court and government offices are typically closed. The plaintiffs are six unnamed citizens of Venezuela, arrested by ICE. On Monday (a federal holiday) morning, Judge John Tunheim (Clinton appointee) ordered their release from custody, without having heard from the government, or even requesting their input.
    Given the timing of events, the government (representing the people) had likely already lost the case before they had even heard of it.
    As of yesterday, there are eleven documents included in the case file. Nine of the 11 are filed under seal, unavailable for viewing by the general public.
    The only documents viewable are the two orders issued by Judge Tunheim, in favor of the plaintiffs, without having given the other side a chance to be heard.
    Keep in mind that the individuals ICE and Border Patrol seek to apprehend have already received a final order of removal (deportation) from an Immigration Court.
    Judge Tunheim imagines a different system than the one created by Congress, where an illegal immigrant, having already lost his case, can start the process all over again in a district court with only one side (his) represented.
    Not only are the names of the plaintiffs (aliens) hidden from view, the name(s) of the attorney(s) is/are hidden. Without knowing who is filing these petitions, we can’t determine who is funding the lawfare. My guess? You the taxpayer are funding it.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      More,
      https://www.americanexperiment.org/habeas-corpus-case-no-666/
      This little man is named Lauik Petit Homme, origin unknown, and he wants out. Even though the case was first reported to the public at 5:15 this evening, the case file already included an order by the assigned judge (Kate Menendez, Biden appointee) barring the deportation of the subject.
      Likewise, the most recent case filed today (26-cv-671, reported at 5:30 p.m.), already includes a similar order filed by a different judge.
      The habeas petitions effectively render all of the work of ICE and Border Patrol to be meaningless. Judges rule on these “emergency” petitions after hearing only one side of the story. Adding injury to insult, you and I in the public are not allowed to see the petitions on which these quick decisions are made.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Judge Tunheim imagines a different system than the one created by Congress, where an illegal immigrant, having already lost his case, can start the process all over again in a district court with only one side (his) represented.

      Once again, very *very* pointed WRT the administrative warrants BS.

      Local judge issues an arrest warrant for the wrong address that you happen to be living at on a Friday before a holiday and there's a good chance that not only will you get your door kicked in, if something else happens and you do get arrested, the best you can do before Tues. is post bail.

      Once again, actual citizens, *The* People, have an actual 6A right that they are owed by their government, to a speedy trial. A right that is not and cannot be owed to people from parts unknown who may or may not constitute and notion of "The People".

      These people are, on multiple fronts, trying to circumvent The Constitution for a specific class of people based, not on any sort of pragmatism, but on their race/nationality. They don't want peace, stability, equality, or rule of law, they want their desired results and they want it now.

    3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      I wonder where Reason stands on this abuse of 'due process'.

  38. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Wanted to continue this conversation from the other day, because I think it's important.

    https://reason.com/2026/01/26/border-patrol-agents-killed-alex-pretti-why-is-border-patrol-in-minneapolis-at-all/?comments=true#comment-11364942

    I advocate for viewing borders in a minimalist fashion, only as the extent of the sovereign's jurisdiction, and nothing more than that. Others wish to impute much greater meaning into borders.

    DesigNate thinks it is idealistic and unrealistic in the modern era, and that we just have to learn to live with governments restricting the free association of people across borders. I disagree.

    If you agree at least in principle that there ought to be freedom of association between peaceful people across borders, then from a practical matter, we will never achieve this principle unless we ask for it to be implemented. No government hands out liberty for free! So yes, we should ask for it, and we should not confuse principle with tactics. I agree on a tactical level it is nearly impossible to convince a majority to be in favor of the free movement of people across borders at this current time, that doesn't mean we shouldn't advocate for it. It took a long time for gun rights to be recognized as they currently are today, and the sooner we start the sooner we will be victorious.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      stfu Lying Jeffy.

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      I'll advocate machine gun nests on the border and just mowing down anybody approaching the border illegally.

      Have machine gun nests in the airports and mow down illegals there as well.

      1. windycityattorney   2 months ago

        More blood for the blood god!

        Why give them the easy death of simply being shot to death? No torture first? CMON damikesc. Don't be a pussy. Murder without torture (and rape? why not throw a lil rape into the murder fantasy) is going a bit too easy on them, don't ya think?

        Step it up damikesc.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Youre talking about ignoring all the violent crime by illegals right? I mean if were talking about more blood, they dominate that over dem insurrectionists by ICE.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        You could charge people who would volunteer to man those guns, too. Make a little cash on the side.

  39. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

    "White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller is distancing himself from the Department of Homeland Security amid widespread outrage over the killing of Alex Pretti by immigration agents in Minneapolis," reports Politico. "

    So pretty much the opposite then, and we can assume that Miller is heading there with a gun himself.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      He's probably only got 59 rounds on his person, so, mostly peacefully. Probably for coffee or to the range for target practice.

  40. JFree   2 months ago

    Looks like Brownshirt Barbie is getting pissed at nearby puppies.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Speaking of Brownshirts, J(ew)free…

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Looks like JFucked is grasping at straws.

  41. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

    A beautiful fafo thread:

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2014393006703718841

    1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      Not enough makeup or big enough glasses in the world to hide that ugly

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      These childless cat ladies are freaking out because Leavitt and Vance are bringing new life into the world. Something very misogynist about that.

  42. damikesc   2 months ago

    Soros-backed DA Larry Krasner has found a criminal group he will go after.

    He is promising to hunt down ICE agents.

    No crimes mentioned. Just going to hunt them down.

    And they call the Right "fascists"?

    Somebody needs to force Krasner to swallow a bullet.

  43. car-keynes   2 months ago

    When the President says you can't have guns and thereby proclaims no one has a right to witness police action if they carry a gun, looks like he should be recalled no matter what he may be trying to accomplish.

    Was Pretti disarmed according to legitimate police procedure?

    1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      Now say that about every Democratic President and Presidential candidate for the last 3/4 of a century.

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      He stepped between law enforcement and a third party.

  44. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

    So Reason's Trumpanzee harridan is squaring off with the Kleptocracy's Trumpanzee harridan? Add edged Second Amendment hardware to the mix and toss out M. de Queensberry rules and one overpriced stadium could be filled to capacity with gleeful paying customers.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      The 1910s are back thataway, Hank.
      <—————————

    2. Rick James   2 months ago

      So Reason's Trumpanzee harridan

      Gentlemen, take note, this is how you girl-bully.

  45. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    Lessons learned from the Pretti murder: Wide access to uncensored video is eventually capable of undermining the official narrative and confidence in our officials. Caution: artificial intelligence is capable of generating fake videos. Bottom line: we should all be very skeptical of video evidence in general nowadays. Another take-home: we should always start out skeptical of the official narrative after an extraordinary event and we should never allow officials to have the final word without convincing evidence of a reliable independent investigation.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      https://ethicsalarms.com/2026/01/27/fire-fights-to-maintain-neutrality-objectivity-fairness-and-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-898580

      First of all, nothing indicated Pretti had a lawful reason to direct traffic. He was described as an ICU nurse, not an EMT or firefighter or even a construction worker who could have plausibly looked like someone who could direct traffic.

      From this description, Pretti appeared to insert himself into the scene. Law enforcement did not initiate the confrontation with him (though his unlawful directing of traffic would have justified such a confrontation)

      He was not someone who was simply protesting while standing on the sidewalk, let alone minding his own businesses. He inserted himself into a conflict between law enforcement and others.

      Even if the shooting was unlawful, he was someone who was “dead right”.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

        What does that have to do with being skeptical about video or about official narratives?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Because you willingly choose to not apply the same standard to believing open border Marxists narratives?

      2. car-keynes   2 months ago

        Directing traffic is not unlawful. You need no special talent. You do need a legit reason. Traffic cones also direct traffic, you see.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Obstructing traffic on the other hand is illegal which is what he was actually doing.

        2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          The legit reason was not apparent in this case.

      3. car-keynes   2 months ago

        There's no doubt that Pretti got himself into trouble with the officers.

        There's no doubt that critique has fallen on false statement(s) given by federal agents.

        Speculation concerns whether Pretti did anything to warrant being murdered. And based upon the idea that a federal officer proclaims that he had a gun -- which however true was a consequential thing to shout to other gullible, impressionable federal agents -- Pretti was shot due to a technical miscommunication that basically authorized other team members to interpret violent motive immediately applicable. Don't worry, happens all the time in the ICU ... "Patient has a gun clogging his left large intestine!!"

      4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        Law enforcement did not initiate the confrontation with him

        Yes they did. Go back and re-watch the videos. The officer in the beige cap went out of his way to cross the street to shove the protesters. That is what kicked off the whole deadly confrontation.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          Pretti was nowhere near the shoving. He chose to intervene.

    2. See.More   2 months ago

      Another take-home: we should always start out skeptical of the official narrative after an extraordinary event . . .

      That is not nearly skeptical enough. Properly applied critical thought requires skepticism of every narrative.

      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

        Bingo!

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      What irony in this post as it is the corporate media and open border activists who have been caught using AI.

    4. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      Now - what about skepticism of the 'unofficial narrative'.

      I notice you use Pretti as your starting point, ignoring Good.

  46. NealAppeal   2 months ago

    Oh no! Not Reason's own Governor McDreamy!
    Polis Libertarian Streak is a False Narrative

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Well they still have that moderate chick in Virginia and Shapiro.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Dont worry. They will never admit they were ever for governor mcdreamy... nor biden... nor Khanna.. etc.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      I believe this is the point where criticism of Polis proves one to be "against classical liberal values".

  47. mad.casual   2 months ago

    The solution: get married like your grandparents.

    I wanted a "Nazi/S. Asian-killing war hero returned home" theme for our wedding, but Mrs. Casual voted that down in favor of something more traditional.

    Didn't even let me *try* to find a pizzeria to cater to the theme.

    1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

      Oof! That made me blow cawfee outta ma noze!

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Can a Nazi pizza shop be forced to bake the pie in your state?

    3. Eeyore   2 months ago

      She probably also didn't ask that "The Imperial March" be played as she walked down the isle?

    4. Rick James   2 months ago

      I wanted a "Nazi/S. Asian-killing war hero returned home" theme for our wedding, but Mrs. Casual voted that down in favor of something more traditional.

      For me, that was the wedding-night boudoir theme.

  48. Marshal   2 months ago

    worthy of on-the-spot execution.

    This is disappointing Liz. Even if you accept every anti-ICE assertion made by literally anyone this is still not an execution which requires the subject to have been completely subdued. This is Jeffey level manipulative language.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I don't know that it needs the subject to be subdued, but I'll absolutely agree Pretti's seeking out of "executioners" was categorically different from the way Brian Thompson sought out his executioner.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

        So you were probably also rooting for the Loyalists before the Revolution, right? The rioters at the Boston Massacre were seeking out their executioners? The Union soldiers at the Hornet's Nest wanted to be subdued?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Retarded even for the other leftists here.

          Amazing you presuppose your side as the good guys despite being the ones attacking legal execution of valid laws.

  49. Rick James   2 months ago

    In Minneapolis, 55-year-old Anthony J. Kazmierczak came up to Rep. Ilhan Omar at an immigration town hall and sprayed a strange, unidentified substance on her.

    I remember in the heady days of 2019 George Floyd shenanigans, this was called "Wednesday".

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I am not saying it was staged, but if it was staged, it would look EXACTLY like her "altercation" did.

  50. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Since Reason is still posting lies and misinformation regarding Good and have not recanted their false statements of some many events and issues, or when they have jumped to conclusions before having the facts, why would I read them complain about others doing the same thing?

    Hypocrite much?

  51. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRWR13BAIEs

    Theres a video making the rounds online and rapidly being removed, that looks pretty bad for Pretti. Supposedly a BBC verified video from Jan 13th.

    He gets in the faces of ICE agents, spits at one of them, then kicks the tail light out of their vehicle when they try to drive away, prompting them to get out and scuffle with him. While he is carrying. Looks exactly like him, same clothes, carrying same pistol in his waistband.

    If true and not AI, definitely looks much more like an agitator FAFO situation. This is not a person looking to help others that got caught up in the insanity, its someone looking to cause insanity, while carrying. This is a blatant no-no in the CCW world and not "just going to a protest". He's actively antagonizing law enforcement here and attacking their vehicle while armed.

    Still not a justification for getting 10 rounds in you while on the ground after disarmed, but points much more at a person that went there to cause trouble who fucked around and found out.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      This is slimy even for you. This is just character assassination of a dead man. You don't even know if this is true yet you are happy to repeat it. Why? None of what you posted, even if true, changes the legality or the legitimacy of the shooting. But it does poison the well of public discourse, doesn't it?

      You all really need to stop saying or even implying that he somehow deserved to be shot because he had politics that you disagreed with, or that in the past he did something that you don't like.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        It doesn't change the events on the ground, but it solidifies the entire picture of MN very well, and is damning for Tim Walz. Doesn't take away from it being a bad shoot, IMO, but really elucidates the situation.

        It shows a pretty clear certainty: Walz and those like him purposefully riled up people who are not mentally well, and who showed up specifically to obstruct operations and agitate, at the behest of the democrat party. They simultaneously told local and state PD to stand down, and had the national guard hand out coffee to "peaceful protestors", while telling protestors to put their bodies on the line.

        It shows that they fully curated this situation. What happened yesterday? Walz gave the go ahead for local cops to step in, and immediately the agitators backed down and went home or were calmly arrested.

        It appears that Pretti and Good knowingly placed themselves in highly dangerous situations, to confront LEOs, and they lost their lives for it. Blood is absolutely on Walz et al. hands. This isnt happening in any other state to this degree. They got the martyrs they essentially created from their own hands.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          You have no idea what is actually happening in Minnesota. You are just being fed this brain-dead narrative that infantilizes the protesters and assumes that they are just morons being led around like zombies. The reality is, Walz and Frey are not leading anyone. They are followers of the mob. The protests really are grass-roots and homegrown. If you read any forum on the protests that are even slightly left-of-center, you will see that the actual protesters are angry at Walz for not doing more. They are furious at him for what they view as caving to Trump. Do you really think "Tampon Tim" has the ability to manipulate and lead people around like he is some type of snake charmer? He is a putz.

          No one is intentionally trying to create martyrs. That is just disgusting.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            "You have no idea what is actually happening in Minnesota."

            Not like we dont have 1000s of videos every day of what's happening. Its pretty obvious what's happening

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              But you dont know every second of every day if every person - retarded jeff.

          2. rbike   2 months ago

            Actually, your post is what is disgusting . Keep defending an alarmingly stupid individual (Pretti) who did incredibly stupid actions in an area where he and his fellow agitators were stirring up shit. You do hear the whistles, right? No, if he was just standing on the sidewalk loudly protesting he would still be alive. But, no, he and his fellow collaborators were screwing with traffic. His fellow agitators were blowing whistles (committing assault).
            Why would any reasonable person have any sympathy for such a stupid person. FAFO personified. Did I watch the video? No. Don't care to. Fine the officers, put them on desk duty. The person who is 99% responsible for this (Pretti) succeeded in what leftist agitators like Jeffy wanted.
            Hey, dumbass Jeffy, what percentage of responsibility do YOU think was on Pretti?

          3. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

            Jacob Sullum conceded that "Pretti stepped between the agent and the woman"

            https://reason.com/2026/01/27/border-patrol-agents-started-the-scuffle-that-led-to-alex-prettis-death/

            He could have avoided this.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        "This is just character assassination of a dead man. "

        Its a very public situation, its going to be analyzed. Im sure you didnt want to hear that George Floyd was a lifetime repeat criminal who had multiple assaults, robberies, and pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's belly. Im sure you didnt want to know that he did an 8 ball of meth while fully shot up with horse tranq levels of fentanyl.

        Its harder for the narrative of "he was a good boy minding his business".

        I do think its unfair to ascribe Pretti showed up with intent for mass murder. However, it looks like we have a pattern of behavior established where he not only is being an extremely irresponsible and dangerous CCW owner, violating the understood rules of CCW, he had near 'suicide by cop' behavior pattern. Planning on confronting and obstructing officers while carrying is idiotic. Spitting on them and kicking their tail lights in is asking to escalate purposefully

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          You keep saying "it was a bad shoot", yet you don't hesitate to post information about him that attempts to damn his character, even information that you even admit you don't know is true. This is a slimy and underhanded way for you to try to justify his murder by slyly arguing "he had it coming".

          Do you want to know why George Floyd is remembered as a martyr? Hint: it has nothing to do with brainwashing by Democrats. It has everything to do with him being the unjust victim of state violence. No matter what you try to do now, you can't change what happened to Alex Pretti. He is very likely going to be remembered the same way and the fault for that lies in the officers that shot him.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            "You keep saying "it was a bad shoot", yet you don't hesitate to post information about him that attempts to damn his character,"

            A full picture of the truth is relevant, and people who live their lives in echo chambers are very easy to emotionally manipulate.

            When you have nice, crisp photoshopped pics of a handsome smiling lad with an American flag, and a "veteran nurse just wanted to help people" people get extremely enraged and want to burn shit down.

            People are far less likely to want to burn everything down when they see a picture of a guy that is extremely reckless and in fact probably actually should have been in prison for his prior scuffle (assaulting an officer, obstructing police activity/arrests, resisting arrest). Not that he deserved what happened to him, but it was a predictable outcome based on his trajectory.

            Similar to smoking while working on an enclosed space with a known potential gas leak, crossing intersections blindly, any other number of things that have extremely predictable outcomes.

            Will note, you see those agents scuffled with him, and then he successfully gets away and leaves and continues to be involved in later situations where he scuffles with law enforcement. What did he learn from that scuffle? That he can spit on officers, that he can damage their vehicles, that he can do what he wants and wrestle his way out and go on to do it another day. While armed.

            Definitely a strong reason to have arrested him and many others causing problems in this way, and a big reason Walz should have had his local PDs helping to calm the situation down. Again, blood on Walz hands, and every democrat that encouraged MN to be the new CHAZ they got exactly what they wanted

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

              If genuine, the video is very important to the investigation and also obviously the prevailing narrative. And I agree with all of your conclusions on the subject.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              A full picture of the truth is relevant

              Oh bullshit. You openly admit that you don't even know that what you posted is the truth. It really is just character assassination when he is no longer able to defend himself.

              I think that you hate THE LEFT so much, that you are willing to justify and rationalize an actual murder if it means that THE LEFT doesn't get a martyr. You are spitting on the grave of the victim of unjust state violence to try to win a narrative war. It's just gross.

              1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

                Looks like most of the internet just went from deleting it or getting it removed everywhere they could, to the "Its AI" bots swarming like crazy, to the new script being "who cares he should be able to assault police while armed without GETTING EXECUTED" so it appears its looking like its the real deal. Otherwise the cope and talking points wouldnt have shifted so fast

              2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

                update: new angle dropped from across the street, its absolutely true, and since its more clear he looks even more unhinged, and looks like he is begging for an armed conflict

                1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

                  The soundtrack to that video is very suspicious. There's no way his voice should stand out like that from the din of whistles, noisemakers, and yelling going on.

  52. Cyrano   2 months ago

    How about joining an organization that tracks federal law enforcement in real time and sends members to “unarrest” criminals (as shown in their training materials), blocking the street and interfering with an arrest, and resisting your own arrest, all while armed with extra magazines in case you need to kill a whole bunch of police? Concerning to anyone at Reason? Of course not. Not coordinated domestic terrorism at all.

  53. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Funny how progressives never recognize or celebrate progress.

    The western world and most of the rest should be celebrating the increased quality and standards of living we have in the 21st century born from the backs of all those before us who gave everything to make the world better.

    Instead most people, especially these progressives and democrats who are so spoiled and stuck inside their bubbles of non critical first world problems, wade through life consumed by hate.

    Knowing approximately 100K children have been saved from abuse and/or death should be applauded and ICE should be commended.

    Knowing over 2 million illegals self deported and tax payer dollars are no longer paying for their daily living saving billions should be celebrated.

    Having a large swath of the known 660K illegal violent criminals are being rounded up and removed from the streets and the actual crimes rates in these areas dropping more than ever in history, Trump and ICE's actions should be venerated.

    Progressives can't accept the success and progress of their opposition and instead try to incite riots, insurrection and death. All coordinated and funded by extremist lunatics in high positions...

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