Video Shows Feds Shooting ICE Protester With Nonlethal Round at Point-Blank Range, Blinding Him in One Eye
The incident raises more questions about federal agents' use-of-force policies and training.
A 21-year-old has been left permanently blind in one eye after a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officer shot a nonlethal round into the protester's face during a January 9 protest in Santa Ana, California, following the shooting and killing of Renee Good. This and other instances of federal agents using excessive force with crowd-control munitions raise alarming questions over the DHS officers' training on use-of-force policies.
A video published on X by Abigail Velez, a journalist for local affiliate ABC7, shows the moment when a federal officer struck Kaden Rummler, who was protesting outside of a federal building in a demonstration organized by Dare to Struggle, reports the Los Angeles Times. The video begins as an officer grabs a protester, identified by friends to the Times as Skye Jones, the leader of Dare to Struggle. As Jones resists officers, three other protesters, including Rummler, run up the steps and attempt to intervene. One woman is pushed back by an officer as a second officer fires a nonlethal shot into her leg. That same officer then fires at Rummler's face as he advances, carrying a megaphone.
The shot causes him to collapse to the ground until an agent grabs him by the collar and drags the bloodied Rummler toward the federal building.
Rummler lost vision in his left eye and suffered a fractured skull around his eye and nose, Jeri Rees, his aunt, told the Times. After six hours of surgery, where "doctors found shards of plastic, glass and metal embedded in his eyes and around his face," a 7 millimeter piece of shrapnel was left near Rummel's carotid artery for fear that removal could kill him, reports the Times.
Rees told the paper that Rummler said agents did not immediately call paramedics, and that "other officers were mocking him, saying 'You're going to lose your eye.'"
In a statement to the Times, Tricia McLaughlin, DHS assistant secretary of public affairs, said that two officers were injured after a "mob of 60 rioters threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at law enforcement officers outside of the federal building." She also claimed DHS officers took the "rioter to the hospital for a cut." A Santa Ana Police Department spokesperson told the paper that, in the Times' phrasing, "The only violence…that night were demonstrators tossing orange cones at the federal agents."
In an after-publication response to Reason's query about an incident in which immigration agents seemingly used unauthorized force to enter an individual's home in Minnesota, a DHS spokesperson shed light on the agency's training standards. The spokesperson said that officers are "subject to months of rigorous training" encompassing "deescalation tactics to firearms," including "multiple classes dedicated to the proper use of force."
But this is not the first time immigration agents' use of force has been questioned. In the past two weeks, investigations have opened into the fatal shooting of Renee Good and the January 14 shooting of a Venezuelan national in the leg during an attempted arrest in Minnesota. Last September, federal agents flooded the streets of Chicago, leading to a federal lawsuit against the Trump administration and federal agents for using "extreme brutality" against protesters and bystanders. In this case, one federal judge said the evidence of officers using excessive force "shocks the conscience." One such incident described in the lawsuit involved an agent, caught on video, shooting a pastor in the head with pepper balls during a protest.
Under DHS use-of-force guidelines, updated in February 2023, agents may be authorized to use and carry less-lethal devices, such as pepper balls and rubber bullets, and must complete training at least every two years. However, using a less-lethal device is considered deadly force when it "carries a substantial risk of causing death or serious bodily injury," such as "uses of impact weapons to strike the neck or head." The guidelines stipulate that DHS officers "may use deadly force only when…the [officer] has a reasonable belief that the subject of force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the [officer] or to another person."
Ed Obayashi, a sheriff's deputy and legal adviser of Modoc County in northern California, told the Times that officers are trained to avoid aiming at the face because less-lethal "projectiles can still cause serious injury [or] death." Obayashi also told the Times that he didn't see an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officers in the video of Rummler.
This is yet another example of federal agents using excessive force against protesters and bystanders with both nonlethal and lethal weapons. Perhaps the confusion over use-of-force standards is unsurprising given the Trump administration's rush to hire 10,000 new immigration enforcement officers last year, but the consequence is an unacceptable threat to Americans' rights and safety.
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Autumn, do you think it is OK for people to "intervene" in an arrest?
Are you fucking retarded?
Dude tried to interfere and got blasted in the face for it. Good. Shame the munition was non-lethal.
Video shows the officer standing at a line, begin to retreat as protestors moved forward, then fire only as protestors approached their line.
This is another example of reason defending violence from the left. You do not run at officers holding a line.
Hey they can do whatever they want, no consequences apply.
It's how they were raised.
Mini Darwin Award.
FAFO maggot
Seriously, Reason, I did not believe you could find a worse writer than Dalmia. But you did it. Autumn is the absolute shit worst.
Sullum is printed here daily. Fiona is dumber, but I don't think she's worse.
This is Autumn "nitrogen asphyxiation has never been tested" Billings.
Even if the guy dismembered 20 people, she'd complain that the band-aid the hospital put on his hangnail wasn't soft enough.
Again, "stochastic martyrdom complex" my ass, this is malicious stupidity.
in a demonstration organized by Dare to Struggle, reports the Los Angeles Times
I’d be interested in who the fuck “Dare to Struggle” actually is and where they get their funding from.
Not sure this publication does that kind of journalism. Their wheelhouse seems to be parroting narratives about edited videos.
Queue the bootlicking MAGA fascists saying how this is totally ok.
As Jones resists officers, three other protesters, including Rummler, run up the steps and attempt to intervene.
Intervening with an arrest. Lucky he only lost an eye.
They ran up on an officer. You said babbit was allowed to be shot without even doing that.
MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet. The comment section here proves a hundred times a day.
""MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet. ""
But they are smart enough not to poke the bear and think nothing would happen. Still smarter than most liberals
the consequence is an unacceptable threat to Americans' rights and safety.
Or, you could, ya know, not treat ICE like the gestapo.
For that to happen ICE would have to stop acting like the gestapo (or SA).
I think you'll be disappointed when the rest of us get involved. You think the feds are scary?
I am looking forward to it. We defeated fascists once, we will do it again.
Do not desecrate the memories of our fathers and grandfathers who defeated fascism by suggesting they have any resemblance to the likes of you.
Your fathers and grandfathers would roll in their graves if they knew their offspring brought fascism to America.
My WWII veteran father would have put you in the hospital for suggesting that he and you were on the same side.
Exactly.
Molly is showing ignorance about what that generation believes.
She and her ilk would call your father (and my grandfather, also a WWII veteran) fascists since they were patriotic Americans who loved their country while recognizing its many flaws.
Who's the we?
That generation would not have good things to say about these protestors interfering with a legitimate government agency.
ICE is not a legitimate government agency. They are violent lawless racist thugs.
They aren't authorized by law? You get more retarded by the post.
ICE is acting outside of their legal authorization. Being created by a law does not give an agency the freedom to commit any crime they want.
Your lack of understanding is not a badge of honor.
Where are they acting outside of their legal authorization? What crimes have been committed?
You are looking forward to a safe space. You are a keyboard warrior.
At least the clowns getting killed and maimed have the courage of their convictions. You've got nothing.
You are probably not as good as Cuba's best. We moved through them like they were butter.
China Tony, you celebrate and emulate Mao and his red guard. You are the baddie.
If ICE doesn't want to be treated like the Gestapo, maybe they should stop acting like the Gestapo.
If stupid liberals don't want to be treated like common criminals, maybe they should stop acting like common criminals.
Not common criminals. Most of them know to go along with the arrest.
The radical criminals that think they can do what they want and veto the arrest is more like it.
True. They think it's the summer of love and can get away with anything.
Nice to see that you support Gestapo-like tactics against the people whom the state (and you) label as "criminals".
Who gets to decide who is a criminal other than the state?
From a *libertarian* perspective, a criminal is a person who violates the NAP.
From a MAGA perspective, a criminal is someone who contaminates the precious bodily fluids of America by having the wrong identity.
A criminal is someone who violates a criminal law. Criminal laws are established by the state.
Reminder. Jeff thinks trespassing is a capital offense for conservatives.
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What is there to talk about?
From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser. That would not have been wise or prudent, of course.
They were all trespassers trying to be where they weren't supposed to be.
Jeff: "That's different because Babbett engaged in an insurrection, thereby forfeiting her life."
Trump: "I'm going to invoke the Insurrection Act since local government not only tolerates but encourages their constituents to attack federal law enforcement and damage/steal federal property."
Jeff: OMG WHAT A FASCIST!
>Video Shows Feds Shooting ICE Protester With Nonlethal Round at Point-Blank Range, Blinding Him in One Eye
But I bet it doesn't show the couple minutes *before* he was shot in the eye.
Because that would expose that he was interfering with law enforcement, endangering them, and escalating the situation.
None of that is relevant. ICE thugs are not allowed to maim you for that.
They're allowed to defend themselves. If an aggressor is maimed as a result of that, that is the fault of the aggressor. FAFO.
If it was a DHS agent driving the car and a protestor was in front, they would be calling it attempted murder.
Who they? You can't make up a scenario and then blame people for their imaginary actions. That being said, I am guessing MAGAs would be totally cool with people shooting ICE thugs using a car as a weapon.
It's called putting the shoe on the other foot.
> shows the moment
Show the rest of it or we just assume you're hiding something.
The video doesnt help her at all. So she wont show it.
From the linked video I saw a guy rush and physically attack a cop. I don't care who you are or where you are you will be arrested for laying hands on a cop. The rest of the rioters were clearly trying to interfere in a lawful arrest. Not happy this dumbass got injured but this is really remarkably stupid. We can argue about whether or not in the midst of the chaos created by the rioters the cop have aimed 6 inches lower but a better strategy is for these idiots to fucking get out of the way. The problem is that these idiots have been convinced by idiots like Autumn that immigration enforcement is some kind of extra legal brown shirt Nazi para military and they are free to obstruct and attack ICE with impunity. I could make the case that Autumn is responsible for this guy's injuries because she encouraged his lawless behavior.
""convinced by idiots like Autumn that immigration enforcement is some kind of extra legal brown shirt Nazi para military""
It shows how little they know. If some Nazi paramilitary shit was around, they would be running for their life and not getting in their faces. They would do everything in the power to avoid them.
Right. Once again, Iran is putting lead in protesters like it's a pencil factory and we're getting deluged with stories about not showing up to an ICE operation and putting your eye in front of a non-lethal weapon.
Years ago in a Concealed Carry course we were advised to “avoid stupid people, avoid stupid places”. At the top of list of stupid places were political demonstrations.
It’s no surprise who they attract.
>As Jones resists officers, three other protesters, including Rummler, run up the steps and attempt to intervene. One woman is pushed back by an officer as a second officer fires a nonlethal shot into her leg. That same officer then fires at Rummler's face as he advances, carrying a megaphone.
Actually that sounds . . . completely justified. Good shoot.
The video shows it is justified as well. In spite of all the attempts to clip their propaganda to irrelevance any sentient person can see he earned it. The officer's tool belt choice is the only reason he didn't get a Darwin award.
>But this is not the first time immigration agents' use of force has been questioned
Its not working Autumn. This is like copying three Twitter posts and saying they're 'what everyone is saying' about something.
Who questioned the UOF? The ACAB people. That's like you calling me a Nazi - I don't think you're qualified to judge who is and is not a Nazi and no one thinks they're qualified to judge excessive force.
The pipeline from "Don't Tread On Me" to "Comply or Die" is unusually short.
Apples to fucking ballpeen hammers.
The Democrats violates rights (covid, vax, gun control, open borders), while the right enforces laws to rid the country of criminals.
lol you can drop the pretense now, your guy won. Your team's focus on immigration was never about legalities, it was always about culture and race. The whole point of the stormtrooper tactics is to make everyone else afraid to come here, and to inflict maximum terror on those who dared to come here in search of a better life for themselves. Pour encourageur les autres, right?
The penniless Guatemalan who comes here to scrub toilets for a living is not a violent gangbanger criminal but it doesn't matter, they are all undesirables who deserve to go.
"'The penniless Guatemalan who comes here...."
Must do it legally.
This presumes the law itself is just. Immigration law is mostly unjust and awful.
Besides, a very easy way to solve the problem is mass amnesty. Then they are legal! What do you think?
""This presumes the law itself is just.""
No it does not.
They have to use those tactics because the blue states don't cooperate and let ICE take custody at the jails. They do here and we have no problems.
"""Comply or Die"""
It's not always death. But you are short in the mind if you think it's a good idea to roll the dice.
Retaliating with force is not the same as initiating force.
Let's go with they are thugs with guns for a moment.
That would make it 100 times more stupid to fuck with them.
Smart people know that will not end well.
Be smart, be alive.
And your preferred method to oppose 'thugs with guns' is...? Isn't this why the Second Amendment exists?
To avoid them.
Any gun owner knows if you plan to go up against the government you must win or you will pay the price.
It is wise to understand the situation and what is the best course of action for your survival. Some people are not that wise.
Looks like someone is fortunate that agents are using non-lethal rounds.
Not something that should be assumed.
The time for that kind of restraint is running out.
Do we purposefully seek out the worst possible examples to try to make our case, or are there just no good examples to choose from?
The retarded driver wasn't a bad case at first. Adrenaline and panic on either side could go either way, then the videos came out...much less ambiguity now.
I still have two eyes because I'm smarter than that guy.
If I had a kid that came home missing an eye because he attacked a cop my reaction would be "what the fuck were you thinking dumbass?"
Video Shows Feds Shooting ICE Protester With Nonlethal Round at Point-Blank Range, Blinding Him in One Eye
So, uh, depending on the weapon and the round, the difference between point blank and effective range is on the order of a few feet, which is kinda inherent to what makes them "nonlethal".
If you don't want your vision adjusted by a nonlethal round, don't be within the effective range or point-blank range. Or, maybe, wear eye protection.
a 7 millimeter piece of shrapnel was left near Rummel's carotid artery for fear that removal could kill him
Wait, what? So a hospital capable of performing surgery with sub-micrometer precision just decided to leave a piece of shrapnel up against his carotid so that the next time his head slips off his hand while he's dozing the shrapnel goes into his carotid artery and kills him?
, reports the Times.
OIC, nevermind.
After six hours of surgery, where "doctors found shards of plastic, glass and metal embedded in his eyes and around his face," a 7 millimeter piece of shrapnel was left near Rummel's carotid artery for fear that removal could kill him, reports the Times.
This narrative even makes the hospital look bad. You spend six hours cleaning up shards and debris in his face that couldn't kill him and leave the one piece of shrapnel that could?
I totally understand if they immobilized him, cleaned up what they could, and deferred the carotid surgery until later or referred him to a more specialized facility, but this makes is sound like they discovered a ticking time bomb in his chest, changed the stitches and dressed the wound, and released him.
Always good to see the Libertarians for a Police State spew their vomit
Libertarians are pro deterrence or the retaliatory use of force.
Actually I see a bright future for this guy. All he needs is an eye patch, a pointy hat and a parrot. He could monitize that shit on YouTube and pay the California billionaire tax and solve the homelessness crisis.
Eye in the Skye Jones and his parrot Call The PollICE.
No, real libertarians love anarcho-tyranny, especially from the left.
The problem with ICE is that they don't shoot enough people. I hate cops as much as the next guy but I hate these damn commies more.
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