Trump Should Have Tried To Get Congressional Authorization If He Wanted To Strike Venezuela and Capture Maduro
The strikes against Venezuela and the capture of Nicolás Maduro might be popular or defensible. They were not legal.
The U.S. military strikes that targeted Venezuela on Saturday morning and the subsequent capture of Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro and his wife may turn out to be popular or defensible, given Maduro's history of despotism and the legal indictments awaiting him in federal court.
What they were not, however, is legal.
The U.S. Constitution gives Congress the sole authority to approve military strikes against foreign countries. Federal laws, like the War Powers Resolution, allow for unilateral executive action only in response to an imminent threat against Americans or U.S. troops. That separation of powers is fundamental to American democracy—not an optional arrangement for presidents to discard when it is politically or logistically inconvenient.
At a press conference on Saturday morning, President Donald Trump termed the attack an "extraordinary military operation," which he claimed was unlike anything seen since World War II. Therefore, there should be no debate about what this was: a military strike, one that utterly lacked congressional authorization.
Trump also clarified that the U.S. would "run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition" to a new leader. "We are going to stay until such time as a proper transition can take place," he added.
Again, that leaves little room for debate. This was a regime change operation, and one that creates an ongoing responsibility for the American military.
Vice President J.D. Vance tried a different line of argument earlier on Saturday, when he claimed on X that Trump did not need congressional authorization for the attack on Venezuela because "Maduro has multiple indictments in the United States for narcoterrorism. You don't get to avoid justice for drug trafficking in the United States because you live in a palace in Caracas."
That argument, however, shreds the concept of separation of powers. The executive branch makes indictments. If it is also allowed to use the existence of those indictments to authorize military strikes in foreign nations, then there is no need for Congress to be involved at all.
Indeed, if Vance's argument were correct, why did President George W. Bush bother going to Congress for an Authorization for the Use of Military Force to invade Iraq? It would have been much easier to simply have the attorney general indict Saddam Hussein, then send in in the troops.
For that matter, Vance should ponder whether the world is a safer place under this precedent. Is any nation justified in seizing another nation's leader—even a nasty, illegal one like Maduro—for any alleged crimes? Does the existence of an indictment allow for "extraordinary military operations" anywhere, at any time? That's a framework that seems certain to create more international chaos, not more stability.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, during Saturday's press conference, said giving notification to Congress could have "jeopardized" the mission. That's a view that treats the Constitution and federal law as optional, which they should not be.
Again, it's important to separate the question of whether this attack was legal and constitutional from the broader political and geopolitical issues here. Maduro was a thug and a dictator who rigged elections and impoverished his own people. His regime has been a disaster for Venezuela and for the stability of the Western Hemisphere. No one should have any sympathy for him, and it may very well turn out to be a blessing that he is now removed from power. (Then again, regime change also has a tendency to make bad situations worse; time will tell.)
All of that, however, should only underline the importance of getting proper authorization for Saturday's strikes.
The Trump administration claims Maduro was violating the law, but the U.S. loses its moral high ground by acting illegally to remove him. If Trump is doing the right thing by taking Maduro out, then it should have been easy to make that case to Congress.
Now, Congress must grapple with a different question: how to respond to the Trump administration's illegal act.
"The real question isn't whether this action was legal; it is what to do about its illegality. Ignoring the law and the people's will in this fashion is a high crime," writes Conor Friedersdorf in The Atlantic. "Any Congress inclined to impeach and remove Trump from office over Venezuela would be within their rights. That outcome is unlikely unless Democrats win the midterms. But Congress should enforce its war power. Otherwise, presidents of both parties will keep launching wars of choice with no regard for the will of people or our representatives."
On that last point: The most obvious parallel to what is now happening in Venezuela is the 1989 U.S. invasion of Panama, which toppled the regime of Manuel Noriega. That action was approved by President George H.W. Bush, notably without any congressional approval.
In other words, Trump's violation of the rule of law on Saturday morning is not without precedent. That creates some awkward considerations. Trump's critics often want to frame him as a radical and unique threat to democracy. But, as is often the case, Trump is merely pulling levers of power that already existed. Congress shrugged off the elder Bush's attack on Panama, which paved the way for its sequel.
The president's defenders, however, face a similar conundrum. Trump ran for president as a repudiation of the Bush legacy and the neoconservative control of the Republican Party. He just launched a regime change operation that looks a lot like a replay of the Bush years—regardless of whether you prefer Iraq or Panama as the more apt analog.
Those political considerations, though, are somewhat beside the point. Here's what matters: Maduro was a bad guy. In taking him out, Trump appears to have violated the Constitution, federal war powers statutes, and the rule of law. By failing to get authorization from Congress, Trump has ceded America's moral high ground, further eroded our democracy, and made the world a more dangerous place.
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We haven't had Congressional approval for a war since 1941. We should, of course, but most people, like Boehm, only call for this sort of thing when "their people" are not in charge.
Here's a list of Presidents who have waged war without Congressional approval since 1941: Trump, Biden, Obama (a whole bunch), George W. Bush (he got "approval" to do whatever he wanted which doesn't count), Clinton (a whole bunch), Bush I (a whole bunch), Reagan, Carter, maybe not Ford, Nixon, LBJ (a whole bunch), Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman (who kicked this little tradition off in Korea).
You need to back up those assertions with actual facts.
Assertion: we have gone to war many times without declaring. Then list several instances of this happening.
Molly: wHeRe R tHe FaCts!!
Dumbass
I mean: Korea, Iran, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Nicragua, El Salvador, Iran again, Grenada, Panama, Qatar, Iraq, Serbia, Bosnia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan (shhh! not supposed to admit that one), Yemen, Ukraine, Libya, Egypt, Syria and now Venezuela. We've committed acts of war in all of those places. I'm sure I forgot some.
How do you read that post and get something completely different out of it. The post is literally :
Not what you stated.
Assertion: we have gone to war many times without declaring. Then list several instances of this happening.
This is the very definition of straw-man argument.
^Act blue not sending their bests.
Did you expect any less from Liberty_DumBelle?
They are sending Walz + rated retards though.
Do you not know what a strawman is either? Sad.
"Not what you stated."
Yes it is, you steaming pile of lying shit.
I'm sorry but I missed a war. I saw a law enforcement action using military assets for protection in executing a warrant on someone indicted 5 years ago and who had a $25 Million bounty instituted by Pres Biden upped to $50 Million by Pres Trump.
Do we need to get you a cite that shows the sky is blue on a clear day?
Walz +5
The 混蛋 doesn't know what a "cite" is.
TBF, the way they wrote the AUMF, pretty much everyone after Bush has had a legal fig leaf for their military actions, even if I disagree with all of them doing so.
Don’t get me wrong, Fuck Maduro good and hard, but this is disappointing.
I'm fine with the goal and outcome. I don't like the methods or the lack of justification and approval for them. This is an unforced error for the Trump admin.
This is an unforced error for the Trump admin
Precisely
Nah, in the sense that if he HAD sought a declaration of war, (And I agree that, constitutionally he should have.) a sudden surgical strike of the nature he performed would have become impossible, it would be full scale war or nothing, because several members of Congress would have immediately warned Maduro.
It’s similar to the constitution amendment threshold… make it so difficult to achieve your goals and the system finds ways around them. For amendments we just have the high court “reinterpret”. For international conflict we have various administrations offer a sophist justification and the obligatory redefining of realistic descriptions of actions taken
Who does the CIC need approval from to arrest and extradite a narco-terrorist leader?
Do you honestly think Dem leadership wouldn't tell Maduro to get US servicemen killed so they can blame Trump?
re: arrest - No further approval needed if the narco-terrorist leader is on US soil at the time of arrest. Arguably, no approval needed to execute the arrest if the narco-terrorist leader is in international waters at the time.
re: extradict - The approval authority depends on the specific wording of the treaty with the country from which the extradition is being requested. But it's definitely an agency (often a court) in that other country. And that's true whether the extradition is for a deadbeat dad, a petty thief or a narco-terrorist leader.
What you didn't ask but should have is 'who does the CIC need approval from to invade a foreign country'. The answer to that is unambiguously Congress regardless of whether the invasion is to conquer territory, to execute a regime change or to capture (over the objections of that country's government) a narco-terrorist leader.
It's also Congress regardless of (to answer JesseAz's comment below) whether the foreign government is recognized or not. (There might be an exception to this last if you had consent from the prior recognized government serving in exile - but that's not relevant here.)
They absolutely would. One need only look at their reactions today to see what soulless monsters they are. We need to get rid of them, now.
Justification was 2 fold.
2020 grand jury indictment
And many countries including the US refusing to recognize his last election.
Yep. Trump has zero problems justifying the legality of this action. And it was 100% the right call.
I'm not so certain from a purely utilitarian POV. We'll see how the Venezuelans respond.
Early reports appear positive. Getting adequate famine relief in the short run will help a lot. As will killing the cartel thugs.
Boehm just wanted to give time to democrats to leak the plans.
Kennedy
And, for all the defending-an-ally, attempted-assassination, full-scale invasion and tit-for-tat, between COVID and Cuba there have only been two instances where a billion or so lives were on the line.
If Congress were really serious, there would be a cap/cutoff/kill switch on the number of lives lost in direct offensive or reprisal... but there's not.
Probably worse, even if there were, the MIC, if not several in several different countries, have shown that they will coordinate and fabricate the prerequisites.
Joe returns from home a bit early only to discover size 15 shoes outside his house. His heart is beating hard as he walks in the house and walks to the bedroom. He notices that his wife Jane is riding his best friend Donrow. As she is riding escatically, she glances at the door and notices Joe. She however continues to ride as little Joe rushes to the kitchen to drink some water. Jane dresses up and comes out as Donrow slowly scoots out.
Joe and Jane realize that it is best not to talk about anything and pretend that nothing happened. As long as Joe plays along, Jane is gonna ride Donroe, Blake, Bobby, Bubba, Jeff and few more folks down the line.
Most of the Presidents have violated the intent of the law (and also letter) and ignored the responsibilities entrusted to Congress. Congress people have been mostly grifters and spineless themselves have been the Joe in the above story. President Jane is gonna ride even more and harder next time.
Current admin and all their minions have come on TV putting out some of the most laughable and nonsensical arguments for this blatantly illegal action. Oddly, they have also given totally inconsistent reasons. While the DHS handle tweets "FAFO", President is pretty clear that this is about stealing the Oil. The drunk guy claims this is "our hemisphere" where we do whatever we want. DHS claims this is about "homeland" enforcement against a guy who owns machine gun.
The MAGA sees this as some kind compensation for their lack of manhood.
The fatboy has been writing essays on X on who this is actually about "drugs".
Nativists are questioning why none of the special forces had a brown Indian and if H1Bs will be used to operate the oil rigs.
Like Jane and Joe, they have figured out the lie. They want to simply acomodate that lie as it makes everyone's life easier. The path of virtue, duty and righteousness is filled with thrones. Standing upright puts pressure on spine, bending over is easier.
shadydave, it's shady as Hades to purport to justify knowing (criminal) violations of our Constitution by saying what you said (even assuming, arguendo, everything you said was true).
Consider Justice Scalia's dissenting opinion in Morrison v. Olson. The purpose of the separation of legislative, executive and judicial powers was establishing “a government of laws and not of men.” Justice Scalia, quoting James Madison in Federalist No. 51, emphasized, “it is not [even] possible to give to each department [legislative, executive and judicial] equal power[. Moreover, i]n republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates.”
The primary, overarching point of the Supremacy Clause, Article VI, the Preamble, the Vesting Clauses (the first sentences) of Articles I, II and III, and the Necessary and Proper Clause of Article I was what Chief Justice Marshall and SCOTUS expressly emphasized in Marbury v. Madison: “The government of the United States has been emphatically termed a government of laws, and not of men.”
"The constitution is" necessarily the "superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means." So "the constitution is to be considered, in court, as a paramount law," and "courts" cannot "close their eyes on the constitution, and see only [some other purported] law." "Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void."
Any "act of the legislature" (any purported law purportedly granting the President unconstitutional powers) "repugnant to the constitution, is void." So any "act of" any other purported public servant "repugnant to the constitution, is void." Any purported doctrine (e.g., the invocation of the so-called Monroe Doctrine to support Trump's Venezuela invasion) by which the President usurps powers "repugnant to the constitution, is void."
Any other purported theory or "doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written constitutions. It would declare that an act, which, according to the principles and theory of our government, is entirely void; is yet, in practice, completely obligatory."
“We the People of the United States” expressly and emphatically “vested in a Congress of the United States” absolutely “All legislative Powers” that were “granted” by our Constitution. The People expressly and emphatically delegated the power to involve us in a war (in the manner in which Trump is doing so) only to our representatives in Congress. We expressly emphasized that “All legislative Powers” included the legislative powers “To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.”
The People emphatically “vested in a President of the United States” only the power to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” and that meant primarily the power to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” That language expressly underscored that the President has no power to violate our Constitution by violating or usurping the legislative powers of Congress (even if Congress purported to give him such powers).
The power of the President of the United States to wage war is necessarily (and self-evidently) the same limited power that the People reserved to individual states to wage war: “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress . . . engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”
In our original Constitution, the People also limited the primary war powers of even Congress to two years. Immediately after the People vested in Congress the power to start a war, the People gave Congress the power (and expressly limited Congress’s power) “To raise and support Armies.” The People emphasized that “no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years.” That particular provision also highlights that the People intended that Congress would use the power of the purse to protect us from unconstitutional wars, e.g., wars started or perpetuated by the President in violation of our Constitution.
The People explicitly identified and emphatically restricted the foregoing powers because those power implicitly had the power to involve the People in war. An illegal (unconstitutional) war obviously is one of the fastest, harshest ways for many Americans to “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” That’s exactly why the People by our Constitution famously and expressly outlawed that very form of unconstitutional conduct with one of the first, essentially immediate, amendments to our Constitution. That’s also exactly why, immediately after the extremely destructive Civil War, the People famously and expressly re-outlawed that very form of unconstitutional conduct in a second such amendment.
No rational person/institution would entrust Congress with any responsibility at all. That however is the Congress we have. That is the Congress that was bought. Congress doesn't represent any broad will of the people and nothing can change.
Right, so toss out the Constitution.
That was tossed out long ago
What a retarded take. Those guys did some bad things so my guy can do whatever he wants. At least Bush / Obama had a vague, open-ended authorization of war to rampage around the world doing stupid shit. This time Congress wasn't even consulted in advance.
If you think Jfree is some kind of Trump guy, you might be dumber than shrike.
Do you think I give a fuck about your stupid partisan take on anything? If you are partisan, you are the problem.
Do you think anyone here cares what Nazi shit like you 'thinks'? Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Congress wasn't consulted because at least 2/3 of them would have warned Maduro and gotten our people killed.
I don't support the action but compared to the mandates, censorship, and USAID and Somali fraud scams (and likely countless others), frankly, I no longer give a damn.
Why do you always bring up a document you've never read sarc?
The only tie, the US constitution is valuable to you is when you make false claims about it to attack the good guys. You are a communist, and an enemy of the US.
Ok Ching Chong ChiCom.
Spoken like a true fascist.
So you think Congress is going to stop fascism?
As if either of you twits understand what fascism is.
Oh we know. And the MAGAs do as well.
You have no clue Doc.
You misspelled 混蛋.
Executing all the Marxists would be a big step in the right direction, eh comrade?
Is that what you said when you looked in the mirror comrade?
huh. So Obama was a fascist when he ordered over 500 overseas drone strikes his first year and spent months destroying Libya without Congressional approval?
We did not overthrow a head of state. Maduro is not, and has not been for a while, Venezuela. He is, however, an indicted suspect who has been ducking a subpoena for years now.
We decided to go and collect him.
I thought Zohran "I'll arrest Netanyahu if he sets foot in NYC" Mamdani's criticism of it was hilarious.
That little fucker won’t last long. He’s already turning into a complete incompetent train wreck.
Wish in one hand, should in the other...
The. I would have one hand filled with bohem
Regime change in Latin America is ba-
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I've always supported regime change in Latin America
Poor broken sarc.
Doesn't care to understand any issue. Just repeats the dem narrative of blue sky.
I'd love to see someone justify pardoning the drug trafficking former president of Honduras while capturing the president of Venezuela and charging him with drug crimes.
You have already done so. He cooperated, just like Biden did with all the classified docments he stole. These are the terms your dumbass have established.
He cooperated...how? And that's a get out of jail card for a convicted big time drug trafficker? Dumbass. I never justified letting Biden go. He's not my guy and I don't give a fuck about him.
The Obama Administration and the first Trump Administration maintained close ties with Hernández, welcoming his apparent willingness to collaborate on high-level U.S. priorities, such as counternarcotics and migration.
Gee, imagine the TDS-addled steaming pile of lying lefty shit being caught lying!!!!!!
Slimey!
Poor sarc.
This argument has been retarded since reddit, blue sky, and democrats have repeated it ad nauseum.
Congress will never take it's power back because it doesn't want them.
They only want to get elected, make fucktons of money (R) and pass useless laws (D).
What is a useless law? One that MAGAs don't like? One that Trump ignores?
You might want to read The War Powers Resolution before commenting. Trump followed the law passed by Congress in 1973. A President can commit the military in a short operation as long as he notifies Congress within 48 hours and does not extend the action beyond 60 days with an additional 30 days allowed for withdrawal. It's been the law for 50 years.
You left out the prime motivation of every congresshack under 40: Boost their social media presence so they can become influencers when this whole "governance" thing doesn't work out.
D's tend to make shittons of money as well. Omar passed a law that ALLOWED the massive fraud in Minnesota involving COVID lunches and has seen her net worth skyrocket.
Is it regiem Change when the person elected is put in power?
Yeah, that is a bit of a sticky issue. Particularly for the party that is oh so concerned about "election deniers".
Counterpoint: https://jonathanturley.org/2026/01/03/the-united-states-captures-nicolas-maduro-and-his-wife/
Turley is a MAGA lunatic. His legal analysis is not even close to being taken seriously anymore. A criminal arrest warrant does not allow the president to go to war.
^For sarc, this is what an ad hominem looks like.
Go take a Midol, Dr. Retard.
What war are we at?
You think anybody is going to fight for Maduro? Seriously, Tony?
Not taken seriously? By whom? Democrats?
Who gives a fuck what you faggots think? You lost big.
Seethe harder.
We aren't at war, dumbass. The President has full authority to conduct a short military operation without asking Congress first.
Of course the president needs Congressional authorization to attack, invade, and overthrow the government of a country.
i am sure you said the same about the failed Obozo in Libya
That took over 7 months, resulted in US loses, and Libya is now a failed state with slave markets. Democrats have the midas touch, but instead of gold, everything they touch turns to shit.
It's the Midol touch, involves lots of blood and whining.
Presidents do not get to change the Constitution by violating it.
Who's going to stop them?
According to the War Powers Act, POTUS can wage wage war for 60 days without congressional approval.
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
That is false. The WPR does not say that.
"The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities"
MAGAs are liars. They think that just because they are too stupid to understand law that means that everyone else is.
^doesn't know how links work.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp
The text of the law. Sorry, not translating it to Chinese for you.
Trump would consult Congress, if Dems did not leak everything.
Tough shit, son.
You misspelled 混蛋.
Hey, Retard. That's exactly what it says.
"The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. "
Spiritus, even assuming that law means what you say it means, the mere federal law is not the governing legal authority here. That was the primary point of our Constitution's Supremacy Clause, the Oath Clauses of Articles II and VI), the Vesting Clauses (first sentences) of Articles I, II and III and the Necessary and Proper Clause of Article I. As Chief Justice Marshall and SCOTUS highlighted in 1803 in Marbury v. Madison: “The government of the United States has been emphatically termed a government of laws, and not of men.”
"The constitution is" necessarily the "superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means." So "the constitution is to be considered, in court, as a paramount law," and "courts" cannot "close their eyes on the constitution, and see only [some other purported] law." "Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void."
Any "act of the legislature" (any purported law purportedly granting the President unconstitutional powers) "repugnant to the constitution, is void." So any "act of" any other purported public servant "repugnant to the constitution, is void." Any purported doctrine (e.g., the invocation of the so-called Monroe Doctrine to support Trump's Venezuela invasion) by which the President usurps powers "repugnant to the constitution, is void."
Any other purported theory or "doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written constitutions. It would declare that an act, which, according to the principles and theory of our government, is entirely void; is yet, in practice, completely obligatory."
How come you and sarc can never be explicit with your constitutional claims? You just scream words.
Literally the Obama did it first argument, LOL
It’s like you don’t understand how cause and effect work, lol
I mean, that's the entire Left in a nutshell, isn't it?
'I'm completely offended that the obvious and completely predictable repercussions of my previous actions have now taken place!'
Sarc never heard of legal precedent.
The asshole's too stupid to understand it anyhow.
Why? Because Congress is expressing the will of the people? Because our government is funded by taxes and taxpayers need a say? Or just because some old document says so?
Hey china Tony, like the ICC, the Maduro government was never recognized as legitimate.
Not in this case. These precedents Maduro government was not legitimate.
Case closed.
And the only reason you give. Shit is because you hate Trump, and love communists like Maduro.
Boehm's understanding of war and law are just as amateurish as his takes on econimics.
For the dumbasses: this is criticism of Boehm, not endorsement of regime change.
You know, W's disastrous presidency cured me of any desire for foreign adventurism. But I am truly struggling to see any downside to wiping out Iran's nuclear capability or deposing a narco trafficking dictator in our region.
Deploying our entire armed forces to spread democracy and tax dollars abroad was catastrophic. Successful, targeted strikes on objectively monstrous regimes? Not sure what I'm supposed to dislike here.
Our track record with our puppets when commie regimes fall has not been great. Yeltsin and the Shah led to Putin and the Ayatollahs. Holding out hope for a better result this time. But I'm certain Maduro at least is done.
This. Hopefully was learn from our mistakes. But probably not.
Fair and inarguable. But given that we're talking about an until-recently democratic country with a strong, capitalist economy, I have a hard time seeing how anyone worse is going to follow Maduro. Iran would be a different story.
Iran could get worse, but I doubt it. They had a very advanced, western culture until the wackos took over. They’ve never been a bunch of retarded, inbred goat fuckers like the Afghans.
My concern about Iran is what dissident groups have any semblance of organization and all. Without that, the group that has organization will almost always take over.
But there IS an opposition in existence in Venezuela. So, that is less of a concern than Iran.
Boehm’s not exactly wrong about anything in this article, which shows exactly how bad the Trump Administration just fucked up. At least leftists won’t be able to say it was all done for oil like Gulf War Part 2 due to Maduro’s “multiple indictments in the United States for narcoterrorism”…
…Trump added that U.S. oil companies would soon move in and "start making money for the country."
Brilliant
What else is he supposed to do? Those wells belonged to them anyway. Chavez stole them from their rightful owners.
How about no, you stupid, insipid idiotic retard, Eric. It’s done, and none of your hand wringing can do shit about it.
if Kamala had been elected she would probably be sending Maduro billions of our money.
Of course the dems fed anything and everything that could collapse America so they could fundamentally transform it.
What about Obama? Lots of crying about how horrible Trump is but Obama was mostly given a pass for torturing the AUMF way beyond its limits.
Yes, Trump should have waited until Congress met, put on powdered wigs, had a snort of snuff, and wrote a Declaration of War on parchment with a quill pen, by candlelight, and then delivered it on horseback. Then, a sailing ship should have delivered a copy to the Venezuelan government at their next cabinet meeting. Only then should our Minutemen have loaded their muskets and gone ashore in Venezuela.
So you adhere to the living Constitution approach. Fair enough.
We’ve been living like this for a century now. But you only give a shit because you love Marxist slime Maduro and the democrats, but hate Trump.
It’s not like you have principles of any kind.
Oh fuck off you moronic cunt. Calling someone a Marxist despite their consistent advocacy of capitalism and largely free markets just shows how cretinous you are.
Oh, fuck off, you imbecilic asswipe:
SRG2 12/23/23
“Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”
And get ass-jammed with a barb-wire-wrapped baseball bat.
Every left-wing Westerner should see this video before commenting on Venezuela:
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/2007475595790196856
I kinda figured that would be the reaction there.
It's like the one and only time we were actually 'welcomed as liberators', and that wasn't even the justification this time.
This just further proves that democrats cannot live in peace either Americans.
https://reason.com/2025/12/17/hegseth-wont-let-us-see-a-video-that-might-undermine-support-for-trumps-bloodthirsty-anti-drug-strategy/?comments=true#comment-11319849
Oh no! Who could have possibly seen this coming ? Just everybody who isn't a MAGA apologist.
Apologist for murderous narco-terrorist now are you?
Of course he is. Democrats can’t help but support the most evil monsters on earth. They revere them.
Uh huh.
The guy you supported had, what, 12 or 13 Marines killed after an ineptly done withdrawal?
Trump has disabled Iran's nuclear ambitions for years AND removed Maduro from power very quickly without any loss of American lives.
You're not used to competently run military actions.
Why are TDS addled progressives angry about something the people in Venezuela are celebrating?
Whadayaknow, turns out the "Seditious Five" were right after all
But he had a warrant!!!!
lol, no they weren’t.
What law was violated sarc? Make your specific claim.
Otherwise you're just a retarded wailing lefty dumbfuck.
Just ignore decades of precedent. Blue sky told you different.
Whadayaknow, the TDS-addled lefty lying pile of steaming shit Fu Manchu is full of shit.
Whete ate the poor Reason staff members gonna get their drugs from now, ROFLMAO.
Given that most drugs in the US don't come from Venezuela, probably wherever they've been getting them all along.
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adjective
rhe·tor·i·cal ri-ˈtȯr-i-kəl -ˈtär-
variants or less commonly rhetoric ri-ˈtȯr-ik -ˈtär-
Synonyms of rhetorical
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a: of, relating to, or concerned with the art of speaking or writing formally and effectively especially as a way to persuade or influence people
a rhetorical device/style
The ancient Greeks had a word for this kind of rhetorical move—apophasis, or, the art of bringing up a subject in a debate by claiming not to be bringing it up.
—Patrick T. Brown
b: employed for rhetorical effect
especially : asked merely for effect with no answer expected
a rhetorical question
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a
: given to rhetoric : grandiloquent
… an essayistic chronicle of American society and politics written with a few rhetorical flourishes …
—Daniel Aaron
Given that most drugs in the US don't come from Venezuela,
It’s certainly a smaller percentage now.
The cost for 3.5g of blow is the same as pre-Covid.
"...Given that most drugs in the US don't come from Venezuela,.."
Given that the steaming pile of TDS-addled lying lefty shit Fu Manchu always makes imbecilic assertions with no support at all, you are well advised to see this assholic claim as bullshit.
Well this article at Reason was predictable but as usual not particularly relevant. As others have pointed out military adventures in foreign countries is the norm in US history. And whether legal or not that history is precedent. The Korean war was waging when I was born and it was followed by many more and not once did Congress declare war. The speculation that Trump can be impeached for this is hilarious. The only relevant issue at this point is how much and for how long the US will be involved in whatever government exists in Venezuela.
There are (4) Bills in Congress since 2023 trying to REPEAL the AUMF all stuck in "Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations"
You have your culprit and it isn't Trump.
^+1.
He should have asked for congressional approval. Obama should have asked for approval before bombing Libya. At least Maduro is alive, Qaddafi was killed by getting things shoved in his ass.
I won't dismiss the legitimacy of the question, but consider what's happened for the moment. Imagine Trump kidnapping Kim Jong Un and his sister and NK did nothing to stop him. An opposition group or someone appointed by us does take over. The amount of people who would not starve to death is incalculable. A nuclear threat and ANOTHER ally to Putin would be eliminated. All of that accomplished without a major war or a single loss of American life.
Yes, this is a developing situation so nothing is set in stone. But Trump initiated a relatively bloodless revolution that actually saved lives. Political prisoners freed, people fed, dissent no longer eliminated. He could put a clown like Bannon is charge and it would be an improvement over Maduro.
There are actual ongoing genocides in Africa and Syria. People are killed like dogs by the thousands every year all over the world. We avoid regime change in fear of a destructive war and further chaos. But if we could do in those places what we did in Venezuela, who would really be against that? In hindsight, if all Bush did was kidnap Saddam Hussein and make a deal with the new ruling muslim sect that hated him, we'd all be better off right now.
Obama's actions triggered the whole global "refugee crisis". People need to remember that.
Sure he should have but like the strikes on Iran's nuke facilities if he had done so communists and TDS addled congressmen and women would have warned everyone of what was to come and it would have been a busted mission. The TDS assholes hate Trump more than they love our country and it's citizens.
Like the Muslims need to love their children more than they hate the Jews to stop being flaming assholes.
Reason is OK with imperialism if congress approves. Let nobody imagine that this pathetic publication deserves the appellation "libertarian."
If the only thing beneficial that comes from this is to make lefties reflexively defend the Maduro regime online and on legacy media, it will have been worthwhile.
Eric Boehm is spouting nonsense and knows little about Constitution. I'm not an expert but do know Trump's actions were completely legal. As per Article 2 and as commander in chief of the armed forces, the President can take actions to repel threats against the United States.
James Madison and Eldridge Gerry in Constitutional debate notes indicated that the president should and did have that power. In the 1863 Prize Cases, SCOTUS affirmed the Executive Branch's war power in this regard.
Maduro was intentionally sending boats full of drugs to intentionally kill Americans and Hezbollah terrorists were likely passengers on those vessels due to Venezuela's ties to Iran.
https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/54-declaration-of-war.html
Those are all thugs of which democrats enthusiastically approve.
1. For the most part, hardly anyone (not just the US) formally declares war anymore, because it's always "we wish no harm on the peace-loving people of that country, our quarrel is with their leaders." You can be cynical about that perhaps, but that's how it is.
2. I'd like Congress to be consulted, but they leak like the proverbial sieve. Keeping them out of the loop is basic operational security. If you tell Warren or Sanders, you might as well cut out the middlemen and dial up Maduro.
"...2. I'd like Congress to be consulted, but they leak like the proverbial sieve..."
A good number of them are slimy shits willing to break laws to cause Trump harm; you think they'd be concerned with some grunts taking hits if they could leak something they didn't like about Trump?
They'd be bragging about it tomorrow, the assholes.
And, given that they're legislators, the leakers likely cannot be punished. Republicans did not leak Biden's idiotic withdrawal plans. Should have --- but did not. Democrats do not do that.
BOAF SIDEZ-ing things in the reverse direction a little bit: There's something to be said about the difference in permeability of a sieve with regard to fluids and solid waste.
You don't really have to leak the plans of someone struggling to fall on their own sword in order to ensure any sort of successful subversion of their will.
2. Warren and Sanders are Marxist traitors who should have been put away long ago. At a minimum, neither should be allowed in government in any capacity.
Why does the US imagine it has jurisdiction over Maduro for acts committed within Venezuela?
Good riddance to Maduro nonetheless. I just hope Trump puts Gonzales in his place, though I can imagine Trump looking around for the most photogenic Venezuelan bimbo pol he can find, or some tough-sounding tanned talking head.
Here's this ^ assholic lefty on government murder:
SRG2 12/23/23
“Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”
What a slimy pile of shit.
Why did the US imagine it has jurisdiction over hitler for acts committed within Europe?
It didn't - at least, not directly. The Nuremberg trials were conducted pursuant to the jurisdiction granted by the Nuremberg Charter, a treaty executed by the military conquerers of Germany to address violations of international law.
The right answer to SRG2's question is that jurisdiction in the US is created by alleging harm to and conspiracy to harm US citizens. It's no different from the jurisdiction analysis of any other bog-standard arrest warrant and extradition request for a drug kingpin who's not a political leader. While there are lots of questionable things about this action, legal jurisdiction is not one of them.
You will forgive DLAM. He's a fuckwit incapable of providing any argument himself.
Causing harm to a US citizen doesn't establish jurisdiction, Other arguments? Possibly. We shall see. I don't think that the cultists recognise any limitations on US jurisdiction when Trump is president, of course.
"...I don't think..."
Understood. Pretty much true of TDS-addled shit-piles in general.
Yeah, I was taking some shortcuts when I said "causing harm". It is more complicated than just that but I couldn't figure out how to explain it without distracting from the key point.
Why do we have jurisdiction?
Because nobody can stop us from having jurisdiction. That is why.
The entire facade of "international law" exists insomuch as the US decides to humor its existence.
China already ignores it completely. The USA might be wise to do the same.
Fuck your strawman. We had plenty of legal justification based on Maduro’s narcoterrorism at a minimum. But you know that. You’re just being willfully obtuse, like that fat faggot Pedo Jeffy.
Not a strawman, fuckwit. "Narcoterrorism" is a term promoted by Dear Leader for propaganda purposes, for stupid fascists like you to repeat and think it has legitimacy. It has no jurisprudential weight, but given your craven and idiotic deference to Dear Leader, you can't acknowledge that. What a sad little fascist you are.
A strawman, asswipe.
The rightful head of Venezuela has no problem with what we did. The ACTUAL sovereign leader of the country supported the action. Maduro was assuredly not that.
I am in two minds because I am pleased Maduro is out but I doubt the legality - either under the US Constitution or international law - of what Trump did, and the historical precedents for what happens after removals of presidents like this are hardly favourable. Also, I doubt that the regime has put any serious thought into post-Maduro planning.
I assume we can agree, though, that as Edmondo Gonzales is the legitimate leader, having been so elected by the Venezuelans, he should replace Maduro and if not him, then Maria Machado, Those are surely the only two acceptable possibilities. Right?
Eric Boehm is a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit at Reason.
Fuck off and die, asswipe; make your family proud!
Everything the President does is legal if they don't have the votes to impeach and convict him. The only punishment is losing his position.
There's also the 25th Amendment process.
If it did not happen to Biden, will be difficult to argue ANYBODY should be taken down by it.
It would have more to do with the people around the President than with his actual condition.
This isn't about cartels or oil or regime change. This is about 3 of our enemies collaborating in a single country. China has been managing rare earth production and distribution. Iran has built weapon manufacturing facilities and Russia has provided military advisors.
This is about a threat that eclipsed acceptable levels within our sphere of influence. So we acted in our best interest. Not much different than removing missiles from Cuba.
Unlike the MAGA warmongers, we in the Libertarian Party make our anti-war and anti-intervention plank clear in our platform. Any of you Mises Caucus Neanderthals' who claim to be Libertarian but aren't on board with the platform need to quit now,
"3.3 International Affairs
American foreign policy should emphasize peace with all nations, entangling alliances with none. We would end the current U.S. government policies of foreign intervention including military and economic aid; tariffs; economic sanctions; and regime change. We recognize the right of all people to resist tyranny and defend themselves and their rights. We condemn the use of force, and especially the use of terrorism, against the innocent, regardless of whether such acts are committed by governments or by political or revolutionary groups."
The Libertarian Party is indeed far too large. What we really need to do is to Balkanize it into smaller pieces so we can really flex our electoral might.
To the extent that Dave Smith is the figurehead of the Mises Caucus, he has already come out and condemned this action. You guys have, as usual, disingenuously pretended otherwise. The distance between Dave Smith and the Republican Party is far greater than the distance between you guys and the socialists.
Dave Smith is not the head of the Mises Caucus. He's just a right-wing podcaster.
Anastasia Beaverhausen is a lying pile of TDS-addled shit.
Gee, we'd hoped you'd died of terminal stupidity, shitstain, but here you are again spouting bullshit.
Fuck off and die.
I'm too libertarian to join a party.
Nothing says "Libertarian" like not intervening when a Crime is happening! /s
Thank you President Trump and all our amazing warfighting men of the military for such an amazingly planned and executed operation. You guys are the best in the world!! And thank you as well to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth for the desperately needed restoration of merit in the military, the refocusing of the Pentagon on its core warfighting mission, and for doing away with the DEI and all that other kind of bullcrap that has absolutely nothing to do with winning wars and defending the country, despite the shrieking harpies in the democrat/media complex.
Could you imagine if pathetic old Sleepy Joe Biden had attempted to pull off this operations? It would have been a complete and total catastrophe and a fiasco just like the fucked-up withdrawal from Afghanistan was. He wouldn't even have been able to watch the operation live like President Trump did, as he couldn't stay awake past midnight, 1 in the morning if his very life depended on it.
Joe Biden would never, Hunter is the smartest person he knows and would not get in the way of his habits.
Here is a partial list of U.S. presidents who have authorized airstrikes and/or military actions without Congressional approval, organized by president and notable incidents.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
• Lebanon (1958) – Ordered U.S. air and naval forces into Lebanon to stabilize a political crisis.
Lyndon B. Johnson
• Vietnam (1964) – Gulf of Tonkin airstrikes occurred before the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed.
Jimmy Carter
• Iran (1980) – Operation Eagle Claw failed attempt to free hostages
Ronald Reagan
• Libya (1986) – Bombed Tripoli and Benghazi in retaliation for the Berlin discotheque bombing.
• Grenada (1983) – Invasion and airstrikes without prior congressional approval.
George H. W. Bush
• Panama (1989) – Invasion and airstrikes to oust Manuel Noriega.
• Iraq (1990–1991) – Airstrikes began before Congress passed a resolution approving Desert Storm.
Bill Clinton
• Bosnia (1995) – NATO airstrikes in Bosnia without Congressional approval.
• Iraq (1998) – Operation Desert Fox airstrikes against Saddam Hussein.
• Kosovo (1999) – 78-day NATO bombing campaign without Congressional approval.
Barack Obama
• Libya (2011) – Air campaign as part of NATO action to topple Gaddafi, without Congressional approval.
• Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen (2014–2016) – Airstrikes against ISIS and other terror groups under 2001 AUMF, no new authorization sought.
Joe Biden
• Syria (2021, 2022) – Airstrikes on Iranian-backed militia groups.
Every U.S. president from Truman to Biden has authorized military airstrikes or operations without direct or new Congressional approval during their presidency.
Yeah, but according to the assholes on the left, this is (D)ifferent!!!!!!!
They are not all analogous, of course.
Yeah, but according to this asshole, this is (D)ifferent!!!!!!!
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Don't worry about Sevo.. he confuses "analogous" with "androgynous" and misspells both.
So it's (D)ifferent because Analogy is Sexist? /s
Boehm is a simple minded dimwit.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/01/the-trump-administrations-actions-in-venezuela-are-constitutional/
I doubt you, like most cultists, would care regardless of how unconstitutional.
I doubt you, like most TDS-addled lying piles of shit, would know.
I doubt you, like most TDS-cultists, would care how unconstitutional so long as it was a [D] doing it.
Well that's a complete BS excuse after excuse article.
I'm actually ashamed the [R]s are trying to pull [D]-like propaganda on the subject.
The real kick-in-the-shorts was the 'Alexander Hamilton' reference.
The most 'against' the US Constitution agenda person at that table.
Great idea. Consult Congress and watch the leaks implode the entire operation. Can Boehm be this stupid?
TDS is pernicious, and Boehm has a raging case.
Federal laws, like the War Powers Resolution, allow for unilateral executive action only in response to an imminent threat against Americans or U.S. troops.
You are quoting laws to men girt with swords.
Is this shit-for-brains author from this planet?
I do await the litany of Democrat and Reason writers apologizing to Hegseth for saying he was not qualified to be Sec of War. He has been amazingly effective this year.
More Bohm bullshit. Operation Just Cause in 1989 was considered valid by the Courts. From Wikipedia. "The Washington Post disclosed several rulings of the Office of Legal Counsel, issued shortly before the invasion, regarding the U.S. forces being charged with making an arrest abroad. One ruling interpreted an executive order which prohibits the assassination of foreign leaders as suggesting that accidental killings would be acceptable foreign policy. Another ruling concluded that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prohibits the armed forces from making arrests without Congressional authorization, is effective only within the boundaries of the U.S., such that the military could be used as a police force abroad—for example, in Panama, to enforce a federal court warrant against Noriega."
Same thing happened here.
Members of congress have been sleeping with spies or they're compromised in other ways that would most likely screw up an operation with leaks.
Or they're sincerely hostile to the USA and would give damaging leaks intentionally.
Trump has ceded America's moral high ground
Between regarding Jersualem as the capital of Israel and the Abraham Accords (to say nothing of The Fall of Kabul, Ukraine, COVID, 'mostly peaceful'...), your claims of moral high ground mean nothing; the moral high ground you prize is a flaming, shit-filled cistern.