Donald Trump Says the U.S. Will 'Run' Venezuela After Maduro's Ouster
When asked who would be in charge, Trump said: “We’re designating those people.”
The U.S. military captured the Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, during an operation carried out early this morning in the capital city of Caracas. At 1 a.m., residents of the city reported hearing explosions and aircraft. According to CNN, Maduro and his wife were sleeping in their bedroom when the Americans arrived to seize them.
At a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, Trump said that the U.S. would "run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition," adding in the question and answer session that "we're not afraid of boots on the ground" and that the focus would be on oil.
"We don't want to be involved with having someone else get in," Trumps said, "and we have the same situation that we had for the last long period." Trump said a much bigger attack was also planned. "We actually assumed a second wave would be necessary, but now it's probably not."
"This was pinpoint, but we have a much bigger wave that we probably won't have to do," Trump said. He added that U.S. oil companies would soon move in and "start making money for the country."
Maduro and Flores were extracted from Caracas by helicopter, and they are believed to be on the USS Iwo Jima. According to Trump, Maduro will be taken to New York to face criminal charges.
When asked who would be running Venezuela, Trump said: "We're designating those people."
Trump also said that Secretary of State Marco Rubio had spoken with Delcy Rodríguez, the vice president of Maduro's illegitimate regime, and that "she's willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again," calling her "gracious." Following the operation, Interior Minister Diosdado Cabello, widely regarded as the second most powerful figure in the Maduro regime, appeared publicly flanked by armed police while wearing a helmet and body armor. Vladimir Padrino López was the first senior official to publish a lengthy message on social media denouncing the operation.
How the U.S. Military Coordinated Strikes on Venezuela
The operation began with a coordinated effort to neutralize Venezuela's air defense system, according to military analyst Daniel Blanco Paz. At least two Russian-made surface-to-air missile systems were destroyed, he said, paving the way for a broader wave of strikes that hit at least 20 military installations.
The strikes hit a combination of military bases, air defense installations, and sites linked to command and coordination within the armed forces. Blanco Paz says there were at least 13 casualties within the Venezuelan armed forces, including those killed, wounded, and missing. He added that only military targets appear to have been struck, and that there is no evidence of a coordinated Venezuelan response. There were no reported U.S. fatalities, but minor injuries were reported.
During this phase of the operation, a U.S. special operations unit reportedly advanced into Fort Tiuna, a well-defended military residential complex inside Caracas, where Nicolás Maduro was captured. Preliminary information suggests the unit landed near Maduro's location, extracted him by helicopter without resistance, and withdrew shortly afterward.
The U.S. Legal Case Against Maduro
In 2020, U.S. prosecutors accused Nicolás Maduro of directing a narcoterrorist conspiracy that linked senior Venezuelan officials with Colombia's guerrilla groups in an effort to move large quantities of cocaine into the United States. That indictment alleged Maduro oversaw and later led the Cartel de los Soles, a network embedded in Venezuela's state institutions that provided protection, logistics, and political cover for drug trafficking. Prosecutors claimed that Maduro negotiated multi-ton cocaine deals, laundered millions of dollars through state-backed projects, supplied armed groups with military-grade weapons, and interfered with investigations and extraditions to shield co-conspirators.
U.S. authorities have now unsealed a superseding indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York that significantly expands those allegations. The new charges name six defendants, including Maduro; Cabello; former security chief Ramón Rodríguez Chacín; Maduro's wife, Cilia Flores; his son, Nicolás Maduro Guerra; and Héctor Guerrero Flores, the alleged head of the Tren de Aragua criminal organization.
In July 2024, after losing a presidential election by a large margin, Maduro refused to relinquish power. According to scanned vote tally sheets published online by the opposition, opposition candidate Edmundo González Urrutia won with 67 percent of the vote, compared with 30 percent for Maduro. Venezuela's electoral authority, which Maduro controls, rejected those results and has so far produced no evidence to support its claim that Maduro won the election.
During the press conference, Trump said that María Corina Machado, who won the 2024 Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to bring democracy to Venezuela, "doesn't have the support or respect within the country" to lead.
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Which DC judge will be the first to order Trump to return Maduro to Caracas?
Money on a chick.
Boasberg and other lefty male judges are just as likely. Regardless, you're right that a pussy bitch will be behind it.
50/50 Boasberg uses the ladies' room.
They’re probably all fighting over who gets the case so they can attack Trump. Every one of them is a traitor.
Great. Just hand him over to his enemies, for execution.
Roast the SQRL.
Which DC judge (Trump lackey) will be the first to odor Trump to send Maduro (ass an invading illegal sub-human, and without trial) to El Salvador to be tortured?
Jesus HATED the illegal sub-humans, so we should hate them, too!!! Shit is the CHRISTIAN thing to do! PAPERS PLEASE, illegal sub-human slime!!! We all KNOW that Mad Mudurinated Maduro does SNOT have his Magic Papers in odor, AND he's here in the USA, so OFF with his head!!!
DC judges are Trump lackeys?
You're even going to surprise the Democrats with that claim. Boasberg hardest hit.
I think we can all agree that leadership in Iran and New York City should be sweating right now.
Well crafted.
Spoke like a true fascist.
You should read everything from FoE as tongue in cheek.
AND you could even appreciate it regardless of politics.
Nope. Tony is too Marxist, and too stupid for that.
Fuck you're retarded, Tony.
How long have you been here and you still don't understand Fist's schtik?
Chink's don't have jews or yiddish either.
So we still have the chink, but the chunk (Fatfuck Jeffy) is gone.
Did he eat himself like pizza the hut?
Or his stomach/heart exploded.
ChiCom Tony is just big mad because the Chinese delegation was there at the time to show their support for the former Maduro regime.
I’m sure they got their revenge. Played joke and put pee pee in their coke.
In addition to the fentanyl.
Chinks don't have sarcasm.
But they do have Sarcasmic.
Spoke like a true 混蛋.
Humorless cunt.
Mamdani will undoubtedly order flags to half mast in mourning.
I wouldn't be shocked.
There are a million AK47s in Venezuela. Those aren't in the hands of the VZ equivalent of Ahmad Chalabi. Or the hands of those who think oil belongs to Houston.
What Trump needs is a press conference with a big banner - Mission Accomplished.
Based on a Venezuelan gun owner registry?
Apparently you don't understand how a 5 million man militia works.
And you do?
Tell us, J(ew)Free. We're all ears.
You think JFucked has a consistent thought process?
This is a sad day for you, isn’t it?
You mean the Venezuelans in Caracas celebrating are going to rise up?
They’ll rise up and cheer for Trump.
Haha. You’re the best!
Good summation of what has happened. Hopefully the way forward isn't as fucked up as it was in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Iran, Vietnam, Nicaragua, etc.
However, regime change in 30 mins or less is much better so far then the previous quagmires.
Agreed. Per usual, Trump's comments don't exactly inspire confidence. But the action itself was an unmitigated success.
I can never tell whether it's a negotiating tactic or the real deal with Trump.
It is the 'Art of the Deal.' Keep them in a state of ambivalence.
*Insert scene from Patton: I read your book you glorious bastsrd!"
He employs a lot of misdirection to keep the pinkos off balance.
The best I can give it based on what we know so far is a mitigated success. An unmitigated success would have included classified briefings to select congressional leaders to give Trump political cover against all the "unilateral action" accusations. That is a tactic used successfully by many administrations in the past. It's also a tactic that's backfired when the congressional briefees leaked the content and intentionally or not sabotaged the attack.
It's possible that those congressional briefing occurred and that at least some level of congressional approval was given before this attack but the media doesn't know about or is choosing not to talk about it. Time will tell. If the ultimate answer is no, then I will have to agree with a commenter in another thread who said that even though it was a complete military success, it was a political unforced error.
It could still turn into a quagmire, if it takes too long to establish a suitable puppet government, or if large factions of the Venezuelan population/cartels don't like Trump's choice to govern them.
Giggity!
Pretty sure my “giggity” was before yours, but you win this one. 🙁
They’re both well earned giggities.
Regime change in Libya seemed like a good idea at the time to many.
Not really. Many, such as myself, said it was retarded to depose one of the few guys who disarmed by choice, which Khadaffy did. All that did was insure NOBODY will ever disarm again for any reason.
Yes. Not what I voted for but I'm hopeful at this point that long term occupation is not the eventual outcome. And surprised that Reason actually published an informative article.
It was an excellent article, I’m not sure what the rest of the Reason staff are going to have to add after talking points get established over the weekend. Báez seemed to stick to the facts, and I for one am interested in his opinion on the matter in future articles, especially with his background.
What just happened is fucking huge, I’m not sure there’s any libertarian argument to support US actions this weekend. Not bueno.
Venezuela has been an antagonist since the beginning of the Chavez regime. And there is nothing unlibertarian about hitting back.
How much more were we going to take?
Mike is seething they didnt blindly declare trump was starting a new war.
Can’t really call it a war if it was all over between the time I went to sleep and the time I woke up in the morning.
It's over? LOL
I’m assuming Iran might have something to contribute to the conversation.
Is Iran over? There's unrest there and already more saber rattling and threats from the west.
And Iran was left with its government in place. Venezuela is going to be much more complicated.
I’m saying it sure the fuck isn’t over from Iran’s POV. Our (the US) actions this weekend is pushing them further into a corner.
Thanks. I misunderstood you initially.
It’s really not looking good for those mullahs right now. And no Obama to help prop them up this time.
Where's the fighting? Last I looked, the Venezuelan people seem to be marching in the streets and cheering.
You have to understand that democrats like Mike are anti all things trump and pro all things socialist.
Then his opinions make far more sense from a construction standpoint.
The mission to remove Maduro is complete. The mission to keep cartels from filling the power vacuum hasn't even begun.
Yes, it will be necessary to kill a lot of them. But that has to happen anyway.
There’s already an elected president ready to take over, QB. Maduro manipulated the results in a coup de’tat.
So it wasn’t the second most secure election ever?
The leftist media is solely focused on din the pro Maduro propagandists as if very one in Venezuela loves him.
Democrats are truly evil, and there is no saving them.
The toppling of the government and the capture of Maduro? Yes.
Mission accomplished...again.
No, but it’s big step. Now we can get things back on track there. And help our own economy in the process.
The main advantage is that there is a legitimate authority that we can put in power. Also, the fact that it was a quick sneak-attack will help country relations.
If it was put to a vote, I would never have voted for it, but this seems to have the best chance of success possible.
Libertarians for Foreign Interventionism !
Yaay team ! Wait ...
Exactly. Over on Fox News the "conservative" readers are cheering on Trump for toppling a foreign government, and calling Massie a Democrat for pointing out that the action is unconstitutional.
Only Congress can declare war by Article 1, Section 8, of the US federal constitution. On his own, the Commander in Chief legally can respond to imminent attack but not start a war. The rule of law matters. Trump's act of war against Venezuela without Congressional approval is yet another reason to impeach him, no matter how bad is the "Bolivarian" regime.
Yeah but then they'd have to impeached every president since WW2. Some posthumously. But the Democrats did impeach Trump after he left office so it's technically possible.
You forgot the ‘But Trump!’ clause written in invisible ink in the constitution.
then they'd have to impeached every president since WW2.
They should. The next best thing; start now.
Nope. We’re finally fixing things. Much to your chagrin.
Convenient for TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit.
It isnt a war dumdum.
Precedent for these actions goes back a century. For example Noriega.
Invading a country and deposing its leader isn't an act of war. If another country had done that to the US, we totally would just accept it and move on.
Words have meaning sarc. We know you dont own an actual dictionary so I know why you are struggling here.
'Acts' of war are not 'Wars'. Just like kicking a field goal isn't an entire football game.
It was an illegitimate regime for some time. So naturally you want to prop it up.
2021-2024, I would have considered it. It would have depended heavily on how much 'leadership' they 'deposed', and the manner.
We’ve already been over this. You’re still wrong.
This isn’t a war. And it’s already over. Even faster than Panama.
It is hilarious watching Leftists defend stealing elections as well narco-terrorism with all the bloodshed that entails. Sorry commie but this was extraditing a wanted fugitive using a State as a shield as he illegitimately claimed power. This wasn't a declaration of war regardless of your foot stamping.
The Maduro regime was not the internationally recognized government of Venezuela.
And has been under an indictment since March 2020 under Biden.
But it was recognized by Sarc, Farfuck Pedo Jeffy, Red Wedding Welch, and Sean Penn! And I’m certain it’s like a funeral over at DNC HQ.
Donald the dove, Hillary the hawk indeed.
Poor sarc.
Pour Sarc indeed.
Cope harder Kung Fu Sarc.
I’m really enjoying his pain.
So sorry this happened to you guys, Sarckles. Thoughts and prayers.
Their pain over this is just icing on the cake.
You're not a libertarian so your opinion doesn’t carry much weight.
So much for being the most libertarian president ever.... Trump just invaded a country without a declaration of war, ousted their leader, and announced his intention to rule that country militarily until a suitable puppet government can be installed.
Granted, George HW Bush did the same to Noriega, but it's not exactly libertarian to arrest foreign leaders on drug charges for selling drugs to willing American buyers.
What is more libertarian than taking action without regard for what other people think about you?
We have never been slavishly devoted to law or existing hierarchies.
Sounds kinda Randian.
Calling drug addicts "willing buyers" is retarded.
The fentanyl secretly added to the coke to make it addictive was the real consensual part of it all.
https://youtu.be/iN0WimTzg3M
Is that a thing?
Noriega was a CIA asset that worked for Bush when he was CIA director prior to being president. Why Bush decided to take him out is still a mystery to me but it was personal. Maduro was purportedly deeply involved in the corruption of Dominion voting systems both in Venezuelan elections and the 2020 election in the US. It's possible that this is also personal. I can't prove any of this but I suspect pretty much everything we've been told since at least the 60s is a lie. Doesn't make anything legal or otherwise. I'm just saying in the larger context it's not particularly relevant.
Either way, he needed to go. And now we will see how long the Iranian mullahs can survive.
The water crisis in Iran is fanning the flames of discontent.
Soon we may see a lot of likes with the heads of mullahs mounted on them. I for one have looked forward to such an event since I was about 11.
It's always difficult to judge the true extent and depth of popular discontent in a very oppressive country. We saw that in East Germany—absolutely no one stood up to defend the regime when the wall fell.
I missed the declaration of a "suitable puppet government."
He seems to be for the woman even reason said actually won the election last time around.
Do you have a cite?
He did not seem for her at all but, instead, for the not-really VP of Venezuela.
He said the current VP is who is stepping up, but also said they are going to transition to new elections quickly. Even leaving open deposit more Maduro allies from their positions.
He has been a but all over today.
A bit. I do not like him praising the current VP at all but I understand that simply removing ALL of them from power will simply lead to them causing massive problems in the country for years.
I like the meme of Marco Rubio eventually being the President of Venezuela, Governor of Cuba, and Shah of Iran at the current rate.
Considering that we’re a sovereign country, and he serially violated that sovereignty, then yes, this was entirely libertarian. And drugs were just the tip of the iceberg.
Fair enough. If the NAP is violated by the other party, then retaliation is not a violation of the NAP. The NAP was already broken.
Exactly, it was never really so much about the drugs in particular. Maduro made this happen in so many ways.
He had it coming.
Should we depart, leaving a power vacuum, or allow the actually elected government to get its feet under itself, first?
In fairness, "most libertarian president ever" is a very, very low bar. Even as bad as all this was (from a libertarianism perspective), it's commonplace for presidents generally. On the other hand, Trump has taken some small steps to marginally reduce the size of government and somewhat cut the number and complexity of regulations - and that is highly uncommon.
To put it in academic terms, when every prior president earns a libertarianism grade of F, the guy who gets a D-minus is still the top of the class.
And Reason opposed virtually all of his attempts to reduce the government. They need to have their noses rubbed in it. Reason does not mean one syllable they write.
Happy New Year comment rabble rousers. Just to look back to the past and remember, never... fucking... forget.
But MAGAs disproportionately died due to not getting the vaccine, which makes everyone happy, especially the MAGAs.
Yep all those Maga people in NY and Cali. Right? Fuck off retard
No they didn't. Your garbage injection was less effective than a placebo, and now you're going to enjoy myocarditis, blood clots and cancer because you took untested technology that had failed in every attempt beforehand.
Says the LYING, uneducated cuntspiracy-theory-believing, death-and-disease-lusting PervFect Nut Job!
Killing people is good ass long ass anti-vaxxers have their way in promoting anti-vaxism ass THE most fashionable of ALL Marks of Tribal Virtue!!!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
PS, "food" is dangerous! People get sick and even die from food poisoning!!! Be SAFE!!! STOP eating!!!!
I hope you took all the boosters. You deserve it.
It obviously amplified his malignantly Marxist mania.
I LOVE it when you post your graphs... they always say something unintentional.
Your graph:
All ages: Unvaccinated deaths* per 100,000 population, peak Delta variant:
33 people per 100,000. Thirty three. And that was the justification to forcibly vaccinate the entire globe's population with an experimental vaccine.
Ages 80+: 250 deaths per 100,000.
Ages 65-79: ~135 deaths per 100,000
Ages 50-64: ~25 deaths per 100,000
Ages 30-49: 4 deaths per 100,000
Ages 18-29: ~.55 deaths per 100,000
Ages 12-17: Graph is hard to read because difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated is so impossible to read as to not be statistically significant.
Ages 0.5-4: No difference except for a MASSIVE jump in deaths for vaccinated at the end of the chart that goes from zero to 0.34. I am going to probably consider this a 'noise anomaly' given the numbers are so fucking low they're probably not worth talking about.
So... For a disease that Newsweek claimed 100% of the unvaccinated were literally guaranteed to die, and for a disease that the vaccinated claimed the biggest threat was the unvaccinated, keep posting your graphs because they make you look the fool that you are.
Vaccinate your teenager, every healthy adult should get a booster every 60 days because death's cold, icy hand is reaching out of the mist for your shoulder!
*All of these shockingly low numbers are also riding on the fact that COVID deaths were likely vastly overcounted, throwing everyone with a COVID status of from/with/adjacent to/knew someone/knew someone who knew someone etc.
Democrats will never admit to any of that.
All ages: Unvaccinated deaths* per 100,000 population, peak Delta variant:
33 people per 100,000. Thirty three. And that was the justification to forcibly vaccinate the entire globe's population with an experimental vaccine.
I will also note, because it must be said, once we got out of the peak delta period, all deaths for vaccinated/unvaccinated get so laughably close as to not even really bring it up for discussion.
I would strongly recommend you stop looking at the DRAMATICAL UPSHIFTINIZATION of the lines on a graph and actually read both the X and Y axes so you understand that if 1 person in 100,000 died (of/from/with) COVID who was vaccinated compared to 3 people dying (of/from/with) that's AN OMGLOLWTFZOMGROTFL TRIPLING of deaths. A TRIPLING! DO SOMEFING! DOOOO SOMEFHING!
Rick James must be a Florid-Duh Man!!!
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/centner-academy-vaccine-rules-leila-centner-david-centner
“Florida School Run by Idiots Says Vaccinated Students Must Stay Home for 30 Days After Each Shot”
This is the same school where a teacher told students not to hug their vaccinated parents for more than five seconds.
(End subtitles and excerpts).
See? We are ALL data-driven by now! My data says the OTHER (evil) tribe believes in vaccines, so MY tribe must BAN and SHUN the BAD tribe (and their cooties) ass much ass possible!
The unvaccinated are now CLEAN and the vaccinated are UNCLEAN! Civic-minded BAD! Afraid of micro-chips in vaccines GOOD! Black is white, and good is evil!
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservative-radio-hosts-anti-maskers-death-covid-19-2021-9
At least 7 conservative radio hosts and anti-mask advocates have died from COVID-19 after bashing the vaccines
Intergalactic or Cosmic-Karmic ironic coincidence, maybe? Or candidates for Darwin Awards?
It's much better if you just admit you got murdered in this debate. There's more dignity in it.
"Food" is dangerous! People get sick and even die from food poisoning!!! Be SAFE!!! STOP eating!!!
To non-tribalists and responsible people, who like to stop the spread of sickness and death, vaccines (at the price of a pin-prick of pain, if even that) are the common-sense, neighborly thing to do. Only wussies and neighbor-haters and lovers of death, disease, and suffering oppose vaccines!
PS, Dear Orange Caligula is SNOT gonna "share" His Queen Spermy Daniels with Regal You, no matter HOW faithfully and PervFectly You Royally HATE and despise vaccines, and those who love their neighbors enough to do their part to help to STOP the spread of diseases! Loving your neighbors, being responsible... Ya ever hear of these things?
Take the "L", wave your "Tim the Enchanter" white flag, and move on Shillsy.
Maybe you'll learn from this that you should actually read the stats you post, instead of just taking Rachel Maddow's word for it.
He can’t. He’s either too dumb (possible given his posting a link that disproves his statement), or so narcissistic that he can’t admit he could ever be wrong.
So, either very stupid or a bad liar?
Basically.
So then THIS one is true...
Killing people is good ass long ass anti-vaxxers have their way in promoting anti-vaxism ass THE most fashionable of ALL Marks of Tribal Virtue!!!
And THIS one is FALSE?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
And the EVIL, death-suffering-and-disease-lusting PervFected Tribalists are the data-driven ones?
This ultimately comes down to "value judgments". Shit is clear to me that Political Tribal Correctness, Death, Suffering, and Disease align FAR better with the "value judgments" of certain EVIL people that I could name, than "human thriving" does!
It should be skinned alive and then rolled around in a pile of salt.
"I will also note, because it must be said, once we got out of the peak delta period, all deaths for vaccinated/unvaccinated get so laughably close as to not even really bring it up for discussion."
Once the war was WON by 'A) Smart and benevolent people who love their neighbors and do SNOT want to spread diseases, getting vaccinated, and 'B) Stupid people dying off, then shit doesn't make much difference (let's just ignore the HUGE difference in the earlier time span, when stupid people were dying like flies, for being too stupid to get vaxxed).
This whole line of argument is like saying that what few "NAZIs" remain, any more, now that World War II is over, means that there was NO need to do ANYTHING about Shitler's regime killing millions!
Remember when MadCow claimed that if you got the vaccine, not only would you not catch the virus, but you couldn't infect anyone else?
Good Times.
Pepperidge Farms remembers………
Yes, that is a silver lining. Hopefully it will help render the wokie pinkos extinct sooner than later.
Lol. This remains false.
It's literally factually true. Up to when the vaccine came out, leftards and rightards died at about the same rate (so much for bad fitting cloth masks). As soon as the vaccine became available, you dumb faggots started dying more than the others. Unfortunately COVID wasn't deadly enough and most of you retards lived to fuck up the world even more than the other fuckups were fucking it up.
You got a link and a citation for that, Kung Fu Sarc?
Do the drunken voices in his head count?
And a day later, he does not.
No. Tbis remains false. You retards keep claiming national dem narratives with zero research. The study you are citing doesnt count for the temporal timeliness of virus in the country, ignoring the north east spikes whole including only southern spikes.
The study didnt ask party affiliation. The authors of the fucking study even said there was no political link to it.
You leftists are so fucking retarded sarc. This study was debunked years ago.
I see you don't know how to read the number in the x and y axes either.
See, it’s an article of faith for these poor souls.
Do you have a completely different definition of 'factual' than the rest of reality?
How much bullshit do you eat daily, Molly? You're making Sqrlsy jealous.
But MAGAs disproportionately died due to not getting the vaccine,
This explains why trump won.
Wow. Just think how much more lopsided the’24 election would have been had all those unvaxed maga people not died!
Lol. You’re an idiot molly.
Bailey is going to live forever. He believes the vax reduces all cause mortality and is on his nth booster. I hear he gets them monthly now.
So now the US is claiming that a domestic arrest warrant for an individual allows the military to overthrow and take over a foreign government?
Yup, it's right there in Article 10/6.
The Maduro regime was not the internationally recognized government of Venezuela.
Tony is upset because they were recognized by his ChiCom puppeteers.
Awesome, right?! USA USA USA...
Hope this doesnt go all Quagmire .... [giggity!]
One of the problems with the US is that it has too many brain dead morons in the military that are willing to carry out these clearly illegal orders.
Yep. They all belong in jail.
By which laws, Kung Fu Sarc?
Poor leftist fascist sarc.
Also a little homeless bitch
Hey now! He does have a half million dollar refrigerator box that sits in an alley in an up and coming slum.
Now if Lesotho issues a warrant against Trump, he's fair game.
Sarc goes full leftist retard lol.
Walz +9
They did not.
Maduro was not the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
WTF???
As arrogant as Obama and as senile as Biden.
Hey look, it’s libertarians for invading a sovereign country that’s never attacked us. I love it when people who bitch about people getting thrown off of Twitter celebrate the kidnapping of a small country in South America. Cuba next, right, douchebags?
Fuck off, KAR, and if you're going to pretend to be Sandra at least get the spelling right.
It's Shrike - note the "peanuts" comment below.
Cuba, Ha!!! Cuba is for wussies!!! REAL MEN will invade IRAN next!!! (And then Canada, Greenland, Panama, etc. But IRAN first!!!)
They’ve absolutely attacked us through Maduro backed narcoterrorist gangs, and they’ve violated international sanctions. Including sanctions enacted by the Biden regime in 2024.
Seethe harder you child molesting cunt.
Smells like BS
Fart again, Sarc?
Talking about your cardboard box again sarc?
Were you licking your fingers after wiping your ass again Drunky?
Just who exactly in Venezuela is putting the dope in Americans mouths? Maduro’s wife perhaps?
She was arrested along with her husband.
That’s my point
You don't understand. Drugsrbad is the libertarian stance now.
Smuggling anything across our sovereign borders is a violation of the NSP, and therefore stopping that is entirely libertarian.
So seethe harder you drunk pinko.
If your answer to smuggling isn't to legalize it, you're a dumb faggot.
Does that include child sex slaves?
Ive already mentioned you achieved full retard sarc. No need to keep doubling down.
He’s a coward. Nobody on this earth respects him
His dog pisses on his shoes.
It wouldn’t matter if it were legal you dumb bitch. They could be smuggling hat pins and it would still be illegal. As we have sovereign borders. And how about all that human trafficking practiced by those narcoterrorist gangs Maduro was backing? You probably want to legalize that too.
You may fuck off now.
Also, you’re the one taking loads in your ass for extra booze money you drunk bitch. Not me.
Where they just minding their own business selling drugs in their own country sarc?
Not going to lie. I'm pretty pissed at this. Sure it's not war per say, but I'm a non-interventionist. I didn't like the Iran nuke site bombing either.
I was fine with tanking Iran's nuke sites especially with the hindsight of knowing a larger conflict didn't result. Iran has the ability and ambition to do damage to the US and allies. Venezuela really doesn't rise to the level of concern to justify this.
I honestly dont care when a cartel head and authoritarian is removed.
I dont belive libertarianism means ignoring others in corrupt regimes. Better to fix it there than here.
Even the democrats agreed just yesterday Maduro was not duly elected.
I prefer this than importing 5M refugees.
The nation was fairly well off before socialism. It isnt like they dont have resources to rebuild.
As long as it isnt sold off to Halliburton or the clinton foundation im fine with it.
I think it’s pretty fucking awesome. This will help collapse the Iranian regime faster.
Sarc and other dems prefer the funneling of money to antagonistic countries like Iran. Keeping those regimes afloat.
Oh yeah. When the mullahs are excited by their own people, Sarc and the pinko gang will shriek in agony and bemoan Trump.
They love everything evil in the world.
Maduro has been asking for it for a long time. He could easily have avoided all of this, but he didn’t. So too bad, so sad.
And now this puts more pressure on the Iranian regime. Which may well collapse almost immediately from within. And this time there will be no Obama to bail them out.
He had it coming because he didn't kick cash up to the boss.
Full retard was already achieved sarc.
He keeps going where the less dedicated retards would have quit. He's very good at what he does.
He reached the anger stage of drunk quite early today. I have empathy for his ex wife.
I wonder if the handsome cop who rescued his wife from his abuse didn’t beat the shit out of him again over Christmas for violating his restraining orders. That would explain his brief hiatus.
Some people get to have all the fun.
Walz +11 you dumb bitch.
And he probably didn’t. Which is why Biden put those sanction on him in 2024.
Not what I voted for. But Trump has done a lot of dumb shit that ultimately wasn't as disastrous as his predecessors. The Trump doctrine calls for US dominance in the western hemisphere and withdrawal from Europe and Asia. If that allows the Americas to become freer and wealthier it could be a good thing. If it turns into just another flavor of hegemony it can be very bad. In the meantime once Alberta declares Independence we'll have at least one ally.
Quick question peanuts: Do you guys have one fucking principle left that you wouldn’t sacrifice for your worship of Dear Leader? It could be anything at all where you define principle as a cherished belief or a set of thoughts that underlie a system of beliefs. That system of beliefs doesn’t include giving Dear Leader a sweet reach around, of course. Curios minds want to know.
More principles than you’ve ever had, cunt.
As usual, trolltits didn't bother reading the comments before posting another hot take.
It's Shrike. Shrike never does bother reading anything before showing his ass to the commentariat.
LOL, thinking libertarianism is about non-aggression. In reality whatever Trump does is libertarian by definition. And now aggression is libertarian.
Is violating another countries borders aggression or not sarc?
Where did I say that, Sarckles?
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Not going to lie. I'm pretty pissed at this. Sure it's not war per say, but I'm a non-interventionist. I didn't like the Iran nuke site bombing either.
Fucking retard.
There is nothing illibertarian about hitting back you dumb drunk bitch. Like when the tall handsome cop beat the shot out of you for stalking your ex in violation of your many restraining orders.
You wouldn’t know libertarianism if Milton Friedman, Ron Paul, and Ayn Rand ran a train on you.
What happened to your original SPB account, Shrike, and why did Reason permaban it for posting hardcore child porn?
During the press conference, Trump said that María Corina Machado, who won the 2024 Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to bring democracy to Venezuela, "doesn't have the support or respect within the country" to lead.
Also...
When asked who would be in charge, Trump said: “We’re designating those people.”
Local democracy is SOOOO passe!!! Emperor Orange Caligula swill, from here on in, be appointing and anointing the local governors! Emperor Orange Caligula's swill outranks 10 billion votes of mere sub-human illegal Venezuelans!!!!
(Queen Spermy Daniels swill be appointed and anointed Governor of Venezuela very soon now; Narc my words and the Emperor's Imperial Turds.)
Onwards and upwards, Cumrades!!! Canada, Greenland, the Gaza Strip, the Lady Gaga Strips, and Panama are next!!!
These old tweets are hilarious.
Rep. Jamie Raskin
@RepRaskin
The democratic world must stand up for the rule of law in Venezuela and oppose Maduro’s assault on the electoral process and free speech. The right-wing attack on democratic institutions anywhere is a threat to freedom everywhere.
Joe Biden
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Trump talks tough on Venezuela, but admires thugs and dictators like Nicolas Maduro.
As President, I will stand with the Venezuelan people and for democracy.
Communist Maduro is right wing? Trans right wing?
He might be to the right if Raskin. Who isn’t?
The best part, by claiming that this is "war", retards like Fu are legitimizing Maduro's seizure of power (since his election was disputed and not recognized by the US).
Of course they really don't think that far ahead.
They easily hold co radiator beliefs at the same time. Just 24 hours all the democrats agreed Maduro was illegally in power.
JUST Trump can't do that! /s
Well. He probably shouldn't but I don't have any sympathy for the "JUST Trump" part.
Maybe it's time to repeal the [D] written AUMF and bipartisan passed legislation eh?
...before running around saying "JUST Trump" can't do that!
Which business in Venezuela should I open.
A. Somali daycare
B. Helicopter rides
C. Fishing boat repair
It’s a great time to open a beachfront resort. Venezuela has beautiful beaches. Or maybe a subcontracting business for oil drillers.
ENB has dibs on buying up the whore houses.
Shrike's packing his bags to take advantage of the confusion and buy a whole bunch of 5 year olds.
She will need to pivot, since the supply of underage whores trafficked from Venezuelan gangs is likely to dry up.
Nice thing about daycares is you don't even have to be in the US for your business to pay. Where else can you earn 52 million in five years for just opening a post office box?
The Mafia? Dealing drugs? Not even close.
Dominion mail in votes? Although ending USAID and recent events in Venezuela may have derailed that gravy train.
I’m really hoping that this further provokes the lost radical democrats into giving us the legal pretext to get rid of the entire DNC.
They keep inching closer to that.
Statement from Machado.
"Look, some people talk about invasion in Venezuela and the threat of an invasion in Venezuela and I answered Venezuela has been already invaded," Machado said.
Reason praised her just weeks ago.
Well that's going to get memory holed in the next week or so.
She mentions Iran, Cuba, china all having invaded to prop up Maduro. Why i am fine with this action. Maduro was selling the country off to democrats favorite countries. Let the people keep their country. So im fine with the actions last night.
Exactly. This hurts all the right people. Next up, the Iranian regime.
Geo-political predictions:
China will try to cut off the US, as this was a major blow to their imperial plans.
Despite the reports of the Russians being mad, Putin will accept this loss if he takes Odessa. He understands that defending what is close is easier than what is far.
Iran is done for, but so is Bibi's government. Israel will elect parties further to the right of Likud.
The UK intelligence will detonate a nuke in Ukraine. It won't be large, nor will it do substantial damage, but their war with Russia will not be stopped.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Putin needs to make a deal sooner than later. The downward trajectory of the petroleum markets doesn’t bode well for his war chest. I don’t know exactly how long he can hold out, but his revenue is dwindling.
As my prediction from the UK alludes to, it may be entirely out of his hands.
Above all others, they have escalated Ukraine. This operation to snag Maduro was a direct response to the drones over Novgorod, which the UK made happen.
If Putin suspects or believes that they will escalate again, he has no choice but to bear it.
I could see all of that come to pass. 2026 getting off to a crazy start.
Donald Trump Says the U.S. Will 'Run' Venezuela After Maduro's Ouster
I'm pretty sure VZ can't handle a $38 trillion debt bomb
Yes, I’m sure their financial situation is just tip top.
Once they locate the off-shore bank accounts, it might be good.
And Trump will start getting their oil and tourism industries up and running pretty quickly. That will help a lot.
It amuses me the commies here are trying to pretend trump means forever and not just during the transition as they have no current leader.
I think it's just to prevent a military coup, and also probably because the opposition leaders had to flee the warm collectivist embrace of the Maduro regime, and need to sort out their return.
Looks like she’s got the fast track to becoming their new president.
Well she's said that Edmundo Gonzalez should be the new President since he's the one who actually ran (and probably won) in the last election. But he was always just a stand in for her anyway, as the Maduro regime banned her from running.
Maduro, other than his hair, is just awful, but if we go around getting rid of every leader that is just awful, we're never gonna be able to stop. I mean ultimately that would even mean couping Keir Starmer. I just hope this works out.
Last I saw she was calling for a co transition government with her and Gonzalez, 70% of the last vote, as elections are held after removing covonapirators of Maduro.
Plus the thing i see really happening is they now join Millei with his proposed anto socialist south American coalition.
Chile just elected a right wing President as well.
I wonder what Glem Greenwald is saying about this. I haven’t checked, but I’m imagining he’s lamenting that all the Democratic SJW posturing brought Trump’s attack on a sovereign country upon us all. Can someone check?
Walz +9
Dumbfuck pedo.
They should merge D.C. with Maryland. Then move Congress and the Whitehouse to Caracas. The change should be permanent.
All we need is Hunter in the heart of cocaine production after the government moves there.
I’d have more respect for that arrangement then fucking BlackRock and Vanguard managing Venezuela’s oil production.
Pretty sure Hunter would still sell out to both as they feed him cocaine.
"...According to scanned vote tally sheets published online by the opposition, opposition candidate Edmundo González Urrutia won with 67 percent of the vote, compared with 30 percent for Maduro..."
Assuming this is true, the operation may turn out to be popular in Venezuela, which will make me like it a whole lot more than I do now.
People like you believed all those polls from the South Vietnamese government where the results were 99% for LBJ and 1% for the Vietcong so who are you to talk about state propaganda. Fuck off, soldier.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I'm a little skeptical of that margin, I mean everyone's got an axe to grind. But it's likely Gonzalez would have won a fair election, though in reality Machado would have won a fair election, since a fair election would have meant she wasn't banned from running.
Where the problems could start was that Maduro was hemorrhaging left wing support by being a dictator. They might have wanted Maduro gone, but they might also want a government further left than Machado. At the moment, that's not possible because the Chavistas will simply infiltrate such a government, but how long can a forced right leaning government last?
Certainly not directly analogous, but the Allies managed to change the direction of both Japan and Germany after WWII; not so much in So. Korea. But other than that, I can't think of a country in history where regime-change was forced on them by an outside state and were the new one took root.
I think, as bad as it was, Germany took hold because they had a rather direct object lesson of what their other choice was in the Eastern part of the country. Also the Berlin airlift won a lot of "hearts and minds." Over the last 20 years Germany appears to have forgotten a lot of that.
As for Japan, maybe that's just a Japan thing: they appear to experts at taking culture from everyone else (including their written language) and still remaining Japan. It's weird.
Like I said, I think it was a bad idea, but I will be extremely happy if I'm wrong. I'm rooting to be wrong.
"...Over the last 20 years Germany appears to have forgotten a lot of that..."
And for a culture seemingly based in reality, the regression to coal as the primary source of energy is confusing at best.
BMW moved their engine block casting to China, but only for 'local markets'. Bullshit. BMW moved it there as aluminum casting needs a LOT of energy, and Xi Jinping knows that the lights coming on when someone flips a switch means he stays in power.
Even the UN C/C confab in Brazil didn't rate much more than a mention in the NYT; it is largely (and properly) seen as a book-cooking effort by now and it takes a low-watt bulb like Newsom not get the memo.
They need a new Merkle, and the Greens need to be 'turned out to pasture'.
Mcarthur saved Japan from starvation in 1946. Fed them all. They had nothing and millions would have died without him. Very good public relations. They know that if they had defeated us, they would have killed/enslaved us all. They had already done that to the Koreans and Chinese. Our reaction really threw them for a loop and was the rare case of excellent foreign policy.
Regime Change in 30 minutes or less, or your money back.
Faster than Domino's, and more satisfying.
Yeah, I don't like the move. But if this is the first test of the use of military under Hegseth, at the moment it's hard to find much fault in the execution. Now what happens next could turn into a nightmare (or it might not), but at least the initial operation appears to have gone really well.
Wife found a WSJ report claiming no US loss of life, but pretty sure the Venezuelan count is what matters there; can't find anything.
Now seeing a TV news, citing WSJ, claiming no casualties. Hard to believe.
Yeah I don't believe it either, but it sure didn't last long. I think it's very likely the US had a lot of help on the inside. It's worth remembering that Maduro isn't Chavez; he probably had a lot fewer friends than Chavez would have had. Chavez would only have been 71 years old right now.
Just watched a Trump video and he said that the new version of the Monroe Doctrine is called the "Donroe Doctrine."
There may be better Presidents, but there won't be a more entertaining one.
His new video he posted of Maduro yelling to come and get him was awesome.
Instead of hearing from Reason’s liberal-tarians or the trolls here, here’s an actual libertarian leader with his comments:
https://x.com/jmilei/status/2007597529253515707?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
I hope.
I really like Milei
"here’s an actual libertarian leader with his comments:"
An actual libertarian who recently received a $US20,000,000,000 bailout from the US taxpayers.
Claim bullshit, asswipe.
I like to think of the whole thing as a kerfuffle over zoning.
The memes are coming in:
https://x.com/078sky/status/2007589978486768070
https://x.com/Marczeller/status/2007595835459317977
Mission Accomplished!
Not even one mention of Jeff Epstein in the entire thread.
"Not even one mention of Jeff Epstein in the entire thread."
Nor was Clinton, shitstain,
Sure is a lot of blah blah blah about Venezuela and something about their borders and something else about griping that a bunch of immigrants from America crossed over and overwhelmed the local culture...
*checks previous Reason commenters on immigration* To be fair, the immigrants did cross over in some sort of mechanical contraption so that may throw a wrench into the works a bit.