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Can't Buy Our Love

Plus: Child care affordability, Venezuela blockade, Israel's plans, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.17.2025 9:30 AM

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Rebate checks for all? President Donald Trump is mysteriously addressing the nation tonight. One bit of speculation: that he will use the opportunity to announce that he's sending all Americans generous rebate checks using the money the government has collected from charging tariffs.

"Next year is projected to be the largest tax refund season ever, and we're going to be giving back refunds out of the tariffs, because we've taken in literally trillions of dollars," Trump telegraphed in a cabinet meeting last week. "And we're going to be giving a nice dividend to the people, in addition to reducing debt." Government-issued checks would be in the $2,000 zone, per whisperings from administration officials.

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Of course, pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation. We learned this lesson during the first round of stimulus checks during the COVID-19 pandemic, during Trump's first term, and we learned this during the American Rescue Plan round of stimulus checks, during former President Joe Biden's term. I understand that for politicians in power, trying to buy people's love and approval seems like the simplest path to a broad, frictionless mandate to govern, but it comes with all kinds of terrible unintended consequences. That Trump can't see this despite so many encounters with this precise dynamic in the last five years is disturbing.

"The calls for a tariff rebate resembled an idea that Mr. Trump had proposed at the start of his term, when he mused about paying a dividend to families based on savings extracted by the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, as it slashed the ranks of federal government," notes The New York Times. That never happened, and cost-savings from DOGE were rather paltry. But Trump keeps wanting to have it both ways: Cost-savings or generated revenue he hopes will balance the federal budget (but end up being tiny drops in the bucket) can somehow also be repurposed to be handouts to the American people, to garner their loyalty and trust. It makes no sense.

What happened to childhood independence? "This month, The Argument polled voters about modern parenting. I found it striking how far our society has pushed back the age at which children are trusted with even the barest autonomy—or, from another angle, how many years we expect parents to dedicate all their time to closely supervising them," writes Kelsey Piper. "We asked 'At what age do you think it is appropriate for a child to stay home alone for an hour or two?' To my astonishment, 36% of respondents said that it was not appropriate until 'between the ages of 14 and 17.'…Or take the responses to another question we asked: 'When parents allow a 10-year-old child to play alone in a nearby park for three hours, should they be investigated by Child Protective Services for potential neglect?' Again, 36% of respondents said that they should—and since it only takes one person to make a CPS call, many of your neighbors thinking it's wildly inappropriate for a child to play alone at the park could amount to an effective ban on doing so."

"The role of CPS in accelerating this transition to a highly supervised, highly limited childhood is probably underrated," continues Piper. The whole piece is worth a read.


Scenes from New York: 

Interesting that NY mag thinks these are the only three options, isn't it pic.twitter.com/B2KIyT9vX3

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  • "President Donald Trump ordered a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers going into and leaving Venezuela, ratcheting up pressure on Caracas as the US builds up its military presence in the region," reports Bloomberg. "The move threatens to choke off the economic lifeblood of a country that was already under severe financial pressure. But it will have a less profound impact on global markets due to the diminished status of Venezuela's oil industry."
  • Israel's plan to kill Iran's top nuclear scientists
  • "Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday rejected bipartisan congressional demands that the Pentagon release footage of an airstrike that killed survivors of a first attack on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean," reports Politico. 
  • A new homesharing app distinguishes itself from Airbnb, which has increasingly been regulated away in a lot of localities: "Part of what makes Kindred different is its selectiveness, accepting only about half of those who apply to join. Generally, your home has to be in an area where there is demand for visitors. And it has to look nice—'curated,' as Kindred says," per The New York Times. "Kindred encourages users to link their social media accounts to their profiles, and the majority of members choose to interview their potential guests. Having the ability to pick who stays in their homes is a policy that is meant to cultivate trust—but also one that may open the door to discrimination."
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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...he will use the opportunity to announce that he's sending all Americans generous rebate checks using the money the government has collected from charging tariffs.

    Gimme that stimmy!

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      It’s my money, and I want it now!

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Maybe a hotline with a catchy song ending in cash now?

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      "It makes no sense."

      If the purpose of the tariffs is to push trading partners into better, more level trade, to get them to remove the barriers they have, to re-shore some operations, and that sort of thing, then recognizing that US citizens will be negatively impacted somewhat in the interim, then sending them the proceeds to offset those costs makes some sense.

      If the purpose of the tariffs is to generate revenue, then, no, it doesn't make much sense.

      1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

        Yes, but orangemanbad.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        The purpose of the tariffs can also be both. Which is probably what it needs to be now if we're going to do tariffs. Yeah, I'd like some of my money back. But I'd rather have some chance of reducing deficit and debt and having less money stolen from me via inflation.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation.

    Don't try to stymie my stimmy!

  3. Minadin   2 months ago

    I don't like the checks. It's inflationary in nature. Pay off debt instead. Lower spending.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Same. Dont like the checks being pushed. He already let people be taxed less. Use it to pay down debt.

      However congress needs to start pushing reconciliation also.

    2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      LAME. Get a load of Mr. Self Sufficiency over here. Some of us are living handout-to-handout.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Who bribed you to be for stimulus!!!

      2. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

        See, if Biden was still president I'd be able to apply for one of those cheques too.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Even Somalis know to request a check, not a cheque.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Agreed. “Fuck you; cut spending”.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      That's "Fuck you! Cut spending!"

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        Hey, you make friends and influence people better with "Fuck you;" than with "Fuck you!".

    5. mad.casual   2 months ago

      In the vein of the "Scenes from New York" article, in order of preference:

      1. Pay down the debt. Reduce regulations and other actual taxes.
      2. Return "stolen" tariffpocalypse dollars to Americans to buy/invest in American-made goods.
      3. Sit on the generated revenue.
      4. Spend the generated revenue somewhere else.
      ...

    6. Roberta   2 months ago

      How can it be inflationary by nature, if it doesn't increase the money supply?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Increases to total debt increase the monetary supply.

        1. Roberta   2 months ago

          Only if the bonds wind up collateralized. Otherwise they suck money out of circulation.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        https://www.usdebtclock.org/

      3. Zeb   2 months ago

        Do you think there is several hundred billion sitting there in the treasury somewhere?

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          Well, there's all that money that was stolen from the slaves that's in Scrooge McDuck's vault.

      4. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        Handing out money increases prices. That's not the same thing as inflation, but it's what normal people care about.

        1. Roberta   2 months ago

          It doesn't necessarily increase prices. If that money sinks quickly from circulation because people have to settle debts or anticipate future need for cash, the cash they receive won't increase the velocity of dollars, and we know it can't increase the supply.

          I'm surprised so many here think inflation's a fiscal phenomenon rather than a monetary one.

    7. psmoot   2 months ago

      "And we're going to be giving a nice dividend to the people, in addition to reducing debt."

      There you have it: we're going to do both. Except we won't be reducing the debt since we're borrowing something like $1.8 trillion this year and bribe...er...tariff dividend checks will only make that worse. But Trump was never one to let facts get in the way of a good story.

  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Some pretty damning documents got released yesterday.

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/6abombshell-fbi-memos-show-agents-didnt-believe-doj-had-probable

    "WFO has been drafting a Search Warrant affidavit related to these potential boxes, but has some concerns that the information is single source, has not been corroborated, and may be dated. DOJ CES [Counterintelligence and Export Control Section] opines, however, that the SWs [search warrants] meet the probable cause standard," that memo read.

    "DOJ has inquired as to an Ops Plan for a SW of MAL [Mar-a-Lago]. I let them know we are not in agreement for PC [probable cause] on the SW [search warrant] and that we already had an Ops Plan in place that will [sic] can be quickly updated between FBI/MM [Miami Field Office] and FBI/WF [Washington Field Office]," a redacted FBI agent in the nation's capital wrote in a July 12, 2022 email. "However, WF-[Redacted] does not believe we have PC for the 45 Office or the bedroom due to recency and issues of boxes versus classified information. Therefore, as we are in disagreement on the SW and its scope, we are not yet finalizing a SW as we are missing relevant logistics and details."

    “We haven't generated any new facts, but keep being given draft after draft after draft. Absent a witness coming forward with recent information about classified on site, at what point is it fair to table this? It is time consuming for the team, and not productive if there are no new facts supporting PC?” an FBI official wrote in a July 13, 2022 email.

    Im just glad a site who screams infinite due process for illegals didnt push Garlands lack of due process for trump. Right sullum?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Federal spending per person has exploded nearly 10,000 percent since 1916, according to the analysis. That was the year President Woodrow Wilson campaigned for a second term on the slogan, “He Kept Us Out of War.” Within five months of Wilson’s second electoral victory, that slogan would prove to be just another politician’s broken promise. America entered the First World War — the war to end all wars — and Wilson and his fellow Democrats began spending like there was no tomorrow.

      In the recently ended fiscal year 2025, the federal government spent a record (again) $7.035 trillion, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates. That’s $20,474.19 for every man, woman and child living in the country.

      https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/17/buried-in-debt-report-finds-government-spending-per-person-soared-10000-percent-over-last-century/

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      It is always (D)ifferent when it comes to Trump. You see, he (D)eserves it, with the mean tweets and all.

      1. HorseConch   2 months ago

        To do democracy right and hard enough, sometimes you have to break a few laws.

  5. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Interesting that NY mag thinks these are the only three options, isn’t it...

    No, they think there is only one option. Everything else they say is propaganda ment to disparage actual options and create the illusion socialism is the only way.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We asked 'At what age do you think it is appropriate for a child to stay home alone for an hour or two?' To my astonishment, 36% of respondents said that it was not appropriate until 'between the ages of 14 and 17.'

    We can't trust our kids alone, what with all the pedos around... AND THAT'S JUST IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      In fairness, I don't keep the liquor locked up because I'm worried somebody else's kids are going to break in and drink it.

      I give 50/50 odds on whether Mrs. Casual (the one I'm married to) would approve of the appropriateness of any given two consecutive hours of my alone time. Probably 20/80 if there's an internet connection involved.

  7. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    The move threatens to choke off the economic lifeblood of a country that was already under severe financial pressure. But it will have a less profound impact on global markets due to the diminished status of Venezuela's oil industry."

    The days are numbered for maduro .

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      The days are numbered for maduro Venezuelans.

      I'm no bleeding heart, but Maduro will not suffer as much as the people will. They need to revolt faster if they want to get anything done before they starve to death.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        That’s what I’m talking about.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    When parents allow a 10-year-old child to play alone in a nearby park for three hours, should they be investigated by Child Protective Services for potential neglect?

    To my knowledge they never caught must less prosecuted a single perpetrator from the Great Playground Clown Epidemic of 2016. They're still out there.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      I want to believe Trump deported them back to Outer Space. The truth is out there.

  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Simple audit finds 2000 ghost students, fake students to get fraudulent money, in Minnesota.

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/16/ed-department-nearly-2000-minnesota-ghost-students-fraudulently-received-12-5-million/

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      "They “collected checks from the federal government, shared a small portion of the money with the college, and pocketed the rest–without attending the college at all,” according to the letter."

      Emphasis mine. So, the schools were in on the fraud? That seems like it should have some repercussions.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Just look at their acceptance numbers. This has always been the scam. Accept students they know will fail out.

        UCLA report showed rhe average GPA of incoming students had a 4.0 in high school. 25% cant do middle school math.

        1. HorseConch   2 months ago

          1100 ACT scores on average for 4.0 students. Here in the midwest, it's primarily ACT, so I searched the equivalent score. It's lower than my kids got as freshmen in HS w/out any advanced math.

          1. Minadin   2 months ago

            1100 sounds more like an SAT score - is that the ACT converted into an SAT score? An 1100 SAT would be like a 24 ACT or so, if they convert directly.

            The 'A' students (3.5 GPA+) in my high school graduating class averaged over a 30 on the ACT and a 1400 on the SAT. But that was 25 years ago. We also didn't have weighted GPA's back then, so a 'B' in gym hit you as hard as a 'B' in AP Calculus. And you couldn't get above a 4.0.

    2. MK Ultra   2 months ago

      "I'm an illegal Somalian, and I need cash now!"

      1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        ♫ Call JG Darood Hawiye Rahanweyn… ♪

    3. MT-Man   2 months ago

      This is not unnormal it's happening at most State colleges. Online only are the biggest group. Real question is how did they get through the FAFSA in the first place? So two failures.

      1. MT-Man   2 months ago

        They also do attend classes via AI bots. I've seen the whole process mapped out...

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The role of CPS in accelerating this transition to a highly supervised, highly limited childhood is probably underrated...

    I am waiting for someone to call CPS on me when I let the zoomers who work for me unsupervised for an afternoon.

    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

      You, sir, are a monster.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        He has a large monocle collection.

  11. JFree   2 months ago

    "And we're going to be giving a nice dividend to the people, in addition to reducing debt.

    Plus - dessert topping! and floor wax!

  12. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Huge rare earth metal deposit found in Utah. Now watch democrats block all mining to continue dependency on china. The US is full of these deposits but most blocked from mining.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/12/utahs-desert-yields-rare-earths-motherlode-challenging-chinas-grip-on-critical-minerals/

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      But won't we have to import a lot of African kids to dig it out? Sounds like work Americans won't do.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        They would also accept Haitians.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Well I worry about the cat population but probably worth the tradeoff.

      2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        We have plenty of African kids of our own in out big cities, most of whom would be better off working in the mines than in their own homes and schools.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          New meaning to the name Crypts.

  13. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Dem candidates in north Carolina found to have voted in multiple states multiple times. And then nothing happened.

    https://avlwatchdog.org/state-board-of-elections-investigates-asheville-vice-mayor-antanette-mosley-amid-questions-about-her-residency-and-voting-record/

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Vote early, vote often!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Ah, the motto of the City of Chicago.

        1. HorseConch   2 months ago

          They have the most religious voters. They even vote from Heaven.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Interesting that NY mag thinks these are the only three options, isn't it...

    Libertarians know that there's always a foreign au pair or sending their offspring into the mines for a good day's labor.

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      They yearn for the mines.

      Just look at the popularity of Minecraft among that demographic.

  15. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Megan Basham
    @megbasham
    Whoa. Mark Halperin has heard that the family of Ella Cook, the Christian conservative student who lost her life at Brown university, has been told she was the shooter’s target.

    1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

      So that's why Brown's president is refusing to help the police.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I wonder how many more democrat terror attacks it will take before we start rounding them up?

    2. Minadin   2 months ago

      I read that the day after the shooting.

      https://x.com/JayFivekiller/status/2000387776899150106

    3. BYODB   2 months ago

      They have to downplay that kind of thing after the Kirk assassination. People might get the impression that the violence isn't solely coming from the far right, which all their favorite news sources have told them is the case.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        It isn’t coming from the right at all. And they don’t dare let the public comment the dots. Or Americans might finally realize that we have to get rid of the democrat party.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Dont let Fu Man Sarc Sock hear that or he will post decades old names and foreigners.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Is he really Sarc though? I guess we’ll find out soon enough. If he is Sarc, he won’t be able to resist shrieking “democrats did it first!!!!!!” as soon as he’s posting while shitfaced.

    4. Eeyore   2 months ago

      We are probably going to find out that the head of the university was in a sexual relationship with the shooter. Probably. They should look for the shooter in her basement. Probably.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The move threatens to choke off the economic lifeblood of a country that was already under severe financial pressure.

    That oil money would have been used for the good of the people!

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      They will starve before Maduro does, if they don't do anything about him quickly.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Let’s hope they kill him.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Israel's plan to kill Iran's top nuclear scientists

    I thought the plan was to have Trump bomb them.

    1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

      Sorta off-Topic but:

      More people were killed in the Sudan in the last three weeks than the whole war in Gaza. Have you heard a peep? Nope. Why? Because it doesn’t further the case of dismantling western civilization.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Just more proof that leftists don’t care about anything other than increasingly their power.

        There isn’t a real humanitarian amongst their ranks. Which is pretty obvious based on the commentary from the leftist ghouls who post here.

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Can’t it be both?

  18. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Of course, pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation.

    Wait... it isnt tariffs? If this is true then the massive spending under Biden is responsible for current elevated inflation. Does Boehm know?

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Everybody knows.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Oh really? Then show me when you and boehm werent blindly blaming tariffs for every issue this year dumdum.

        Just one post of yours from any tariff thread will do.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          There is a HUUUGE difference between "tariffs cause prices to increase" and "ALL inflation is due to tariffs."

          Then show me when you and boehm werent blindly blaming tariffs for every issue this year dumdum...Just one post of yours from any tariff thread will do.

          ...No federal policy in my life affected me as strongly as the stimulus package inflation of Trump and Biden...

          https://reason.com/profile/comments-history/#comment-11156387

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            Personally, I have found the creation of TSA to have a bigger impact on my life. But I travel a lot and my income grows faster than inflation, so I sympathize.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              That's good.

              I rarely travel and my income usually keeps up or beats inflation, but not since 2022.

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            You do know that if you dont add ?comments=true your link doesnt work right? Why give a broken link Mike? Why hide your post mike?

            Even with the fix your link doesnt work. What article is this? What are you hiding with your post?

            Amazing you cant even link properly to your post and spend time editing it.

            Now show me from the tariff articles where you didnt solely blame tariffs this year.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              https://reason.com/2025/08/08/heres-what-happens-to-the-economy-if-trump-fires-jerome-powell-and-installs-a-loyalist-at-the-fed/?comments=true#comment-11156387

              I find it absolutely absurd that you're going to criticize me for spend not "spending time editing a comment." It was a broken link. Big deal.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                So your link doesnt undo what I stated in my first post regarding blaming tariffs for current inflation.

                Hell it doesnt even claim you havent spent all year blaming tariffs for current inflation.

                It is a general comment not even regarding tariffs. Which is why you edited your comment.

                So you added a broken link not responsive to my actual assertion.

                Good work Mike!

                Now. We have just over 3% inflation. Still living off stimulus and a fy25 Biden signed budget. Answer truthfully. Have you blamed tariffs for this just above 3% inflation this year? Yes or no?

                Hint. I know the answer.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  So your link doesnt undo what I stated in my first post regarding blaming tariffs for current inflation.

                  This just proves your extremely entrenched confirmation bias because it directly disproves your statement.

                  You know it too, or you wouldn't be raising a fuss about a broken link like that doesn't happen to everybody from time to time.

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    No. It doesnt. Because is specifically state tariff thread.

                    Oh really? Then show me when you and boehm werent blindly blaming tariffs for every issue this year dumdum.

                    You didnt respond to this.

                    You added a generalistic comment made 9 months of a narrative failed by data. You have spent 9 months blaming tariffs. Yes or no?

                    Why lie Mike?

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Because is specifically state tariff thread.

                      LOL

                    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                      Quixy, just admit he’s right, apologize, and move on.

                2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Have you blamed tariffs for this just above 3% inflation this year? Yes or no?

                  This year? Yes, because the CPI was trending downward and Trump is otherwise good for the economy, so for the CPI to reverse trend and go back up to 3% is largely due to the tariffs. Most of the inflation was under Biden, but that had run it's course.

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    It still went downward dumbfuck. It didnt reverse trend unless you are counting 1 quarter. A quarter AFTER fy25 was signed retard.

                    Youre again doing exactly what I claimed above lol.

                    You and Boehm predicted much higher inflation due to tariffs. The signal never appeared. And yet even here you continie to push the narrative despite 9 months of failed predictions.

                    Never change Mike.

                    You make another baseless assertion yo continue to push the narrative i called you out on lol.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Use your eyes

                      https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

                3. Roberta   2 months ago

                  How could tariffs cause inflation? They may increase prices of some things, but by taking money away from spending on other things, the net effect on price levels is nil.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Yes. It is not technical inflation just higher prices...which is why people don't like inflation.

          3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            News flash:
            Losers have problems!

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Except Boehm .

  19. JFree   2 months ago

    "Part of what makes Kindred different is its selectiveness, accepting only about half of those who apply to join.

    They are leaning all in on the Kin thing aren't they.

    If you are 'good' enough to marry my daughter and join the family, then welcome. Otherwise - fuck off.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      I can tell you right now, there is not a large pool of men good enough to marry my daughter.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        My sentiments with my own daughter. The current guy treats her well, is blue collar (+10), has been around my bullshit for two years, shoots, and is an avid fisherman.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          In my family the uncles spend some alone time with the prospective Romeo. It can get pretty intense. Some of these guys have actually run never to be seen again. Those that make the cut proceed to the next level. Mom reviews the evidence and makes the final decision.

    2. MK Ultra   2 months ago

      "Brides are always given away because it's illegal to sell them and impossible to get anything for them in trade except an out-of-work son-in-law."

      --P.J. O'Rourke

      Sigh. I wish he'd stayed as funny as he was in the earlier years.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Aging baby boomers tend to do that.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        I re-read very few books, but I’ve read all of his classics multiple times, hilarious.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday rejected bipartisan congressional demands that the Pentagon release footage of an airstrike that killed survivors of a first attack on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean...

    Allegedly rejected alleged demands to release alleged footage of an alleged airstrike that allegedly killed alleged survivors of an alleged first attack allegedly in the Caribbean.

    1. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Throw in some "people familiar with" and baby, you got yourself a news article.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      "Bipartisan" demands...

    3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      Allegedly.

      1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

        Allegedly

  21. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Woohoo, printing more money has never caused any harm!

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      They aren't printing money, they aren't even writing checks, it's just a bunch of electrons wandering around the banking system network.
      What could go wrong?

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        I guess I'm just a Boomer, now (I think that's what the kids are saying). I still write checks from a checkbook.

      2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        "Money is just a promise from a computer." —Kate McKinnon portraying Elizabeth Warren on SNL.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Part of what makes Kindred different is its selectiveness, accepting only about half of those who apply to join.

    Uh-oh.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      If it's the lower half, OF better watch its ass.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Having the ability to pick who stays in their homes is a policy that is meant to cultivate trust—but also one that may open the door to discrimination.

    It's literally discrimination. That's what picking and choosing is. IS THERE ANOTHER DEFINITION OF THE WORD PEOPLE ARE USING?

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      But everyone is equal! Except for some are more equal and need special help.

  24. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

    “Thread of party ideas and games
    1. No technology party. No phones, wifi off. No lightbulbs. No doors. No wheels” @Aella_girl

    That’s some funny shit from a woman that got rich on onlyfans

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      She also ran a sex convention for incels in silicon valley you know.

      1. Minadin   2 months ago

        May have saved lives with that one.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Wow, uh, phones, lightbulbs, doors, or wheels huh... do penicillin and latex count as 'technology'? Asking for a friend.

    3. Zeb   2 months ago

      I do that pretty regularly. It's called hanging out outside.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        +1 "I have a novel idea! Let's go touch grass!" - Aella

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Given her OnlyFans, what exactly is she touching grass with?

  25. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

    President Donald Trump ordered a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers going into and leaving Venezuela

    uh huh

    US military blows up 3 alleged drug boats in eastern Pacific, killing 8 more ‘narco-terrorists'
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5650556-us-military-strikes-alleged-drug-boats/

    uh huh.

    Trump Labels Fentanyl a ‘WMD’
    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2025/12/16/ron-paul-on-from-drugs-to-war-trump-labels-fentanyl-a-wmd/

    oooOOOooo That's a classic! Nice touch Donald "Dick Cheney" Trump!

    Donny has to drum up support for invading Venezuela since Maduro is forcing his hand into an unpopular regime change war or looking like a weak failure if he TACO's. What could go wrong?

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Do you know who else’s boats we used to sink?

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        The loose lipped.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

          Didn't they sink their own ships?

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Hmmm...

            My notion has always been that they revealed their location with their lax language allowing others to target and sink their ships.

            I'm curious how others take it.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Barbary pirates?

        1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

          The United States' African Slave Trade Patrol?

          The United States' African Slave Trade Patrol was part of the Blockade of Africa suppressing the Atlantic slave trade between 1819 and the beginning of the American Civil War in 1861. Due to the abolitionist movement in the United States, a squadron of U.S. Navy warships and cutters were assigned to catch slave traders in and around Africa. In 42 years about 100 suspected slave ships were captured.

          Bet they don't teach this in woke schools today.

          1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

            Nor do they teach about the Arab slave raiders coming down from the north and taking whole villages into slavery.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              And once Obo and HRC removed Gaddafi, a brand-new slave market opened up.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      Bigot, tacos are a food associated with Mexico.

      A more appropriate term to be used with Venezuela would be ARAPA’s.

      https://www.universalclass.com/i/course/workplace-sensitivity-training.htm

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        I accept your correction and your description of me.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Donny has to drum up support for invading Venezuela since Maduro is forcing his hand into an unpopular regime change war or looking like a weak failure if he TACO's."

      Quicky has to use diminutives to make sure we all know he's a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit who also has an active fantasy life.
      Fuck off and die, shitstain.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        Aw shucks, Sevo, if I knew you were offended by mean names and vulgar languange I never would have...WAIT A MINUTE....

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Look at the democrat using failed democrat acronyms get upset.

          Now can you post the actual link above?

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Aw, shucks, Quicky, we all know you really don't like being called the TDS-addled lying pile of steaming shit you are.

  26. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    President Donald Trump is mysteriously addressing the nation tonight.

    Prediction: He’s going to announce the exterior of the White House will be painted a gold color..

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      He's going to announce the Maryland Dad is being gifted an all expense paid fishing trip in the Caribbean.

      or we're going to war in Venezuela

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        You do have a war boner, don't you?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          A swing and a miss.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            HR, asswipe.

    2. Yuno Hoo   2 months ago

      Prediction: He's going to "eulogize" Rob Reiner.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        As long as he got the information for his eulogy from the same source as Priscilla Villarreal, it's Constitutionally-protected free speech that we should all celebrate and defend to the utmost.

  27. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...Having the ability to pick who stays in their homes is a policy that is meant to cultivate trust—but also one that may open the door to discrimination."..."

    If I were the owner, I'd prefer discriminating against those who would trash my property.

  28. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    DOGE, as it slashed the ranks of federal government," notes The New York Times. That never happened, and cost-savings from DOGE were rather paltry.

    Of course EVERY SINGLE FUCKING STEP THEY TOOK was challenged, bitched about, sued over, injuncted by activist judges, complained about in the leftist press and Reason (but I repeat myself). So I'm not surprised that DOGE was not more successful at reaching any of its goals.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Who says doge is done? Maybe the Minnesota Somalis were looked at more closely because of what doge started.

      Yup, we all want more, but I wouldn’t write the obituary just yet……. Unless I hated everything doge was about.

      Otherwise, yes, the parasites made things ridiculously difficult, agreed.

  29. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "...cost of childcare risen faster than inflation..."

    Sure it has, just like every other fucking thing the government is deeply involved in. Housing? Higher education? Healthcare? Childcare? Everything the government subsidizes and overregulates shoots up.

  30. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    After Failing to Engage Bondi Beach Terrorists, Guess Who the Australian Police Did Shoot

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2025/12/16/australian-cops-shot-bondi-beach-hero-n2667954

    There was viral video of one man, Ahmed Al Ahmed, who snuck up on one of the terrorists and tackled him to the ground before taking his gun. Ahmed was wounded by the terrorists.

    But there was another man who confronted the terrorists on the bridge from where they were firing on the crowd of Jews.

    For his bravery, he ended up being shot by the police who refused to engage the actual terrorists.

    A man who rushed in to help disarm one of the terrorists who fired at a crowd celebrating Hanukkah in Australia’s famous Bondi Beach was mistakenly shot by police and tackled by bystanders, according to a new report.

    The heroic civilian, who was only described as a Middle Eastern refugee living with his Australian wife and kids, was in Bondi Beach when Naveed Akram, 24, and his father Sajid, 50, allegedly opened fire at a crowd of Jewish revelers.

    At least 15 people were killed in the attack and dozens others injured.

    Harrowing video shows the moment the good Samaritan runs up the bridge where the gunmen were firing from after one of them was hit by police returning fire, the Daily Mail reported.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2000776037886570642

      Matt Van Swol
      @mattvanswol
      So let me get this straight...

      An absolute HERO charges the terrorist, takes his gun, DOES NOT SHOOT THE TERRORIST HE DISARMS...

      ...AND THE COPS WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING UP TO THIS POINT...

      SHOOT THE HERO???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        I'm reminded of a school in Texas...

      2. Minadin   2 months ago

        Matt Van Swol is conflating the first hero (Ahmed) with the second guy (unnamed hero #2), but, yeah, basically.

        The first guy who disarmed the guy (Ahmed) was already shot by one of the terrorists at that point. Then, a detective guy from the local police shot one of the terrorists from the other direction. This 2nd civilian guy runs up and kicks the rifle / long gun out of the reach of the shot terrorist.

        Then one of the girl cops who had done nothing for the last 12 minutes or so, shot the 2nd hero.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          2 white people disarmed him first but were killed by the son right after. First 2 victims of the shooters.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Guess Who the Australian Police Did Shoot

      Hitler?

      Randy Bachman and Burton Cummings?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Australian woman, stay away from me
        Australian woman, mama, don’t shoot me

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Oi mate, please don't stend so close to me. - Australian Police

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        No Sugar Tonight.

        Or perhaps they’ll just Share The Land, and cockroach muslims will stop killing people with Guns, Guns, Guns.

        Haha. No, that probably won’t happen.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          They might need a Talisman (like a mask) so they can Hang On To Their Life, but I've No Time left for them while I'm Laughing.

    3. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

      This kind of incompetence sure flies in the face of the arguments typically postulated here that we’d all be a lot safer if we had armed guards at schools, churches, parks, etc. Maybe you want to see how it works out when you give a 19 yo a gun and a $15/hr job to (presumably) use that gun, but I think a better strategy is to— at the very least— make sure that anyone buying a gun doesn’t have immediate plans to use that gun to blow his wife’s head off. Fair?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Also runs counter to the oft-repeated only the cops should have guns, because they clearly cannot be trusted to use them appropriately.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        " make sure that anyone buying a gun doesn’t have immediate plans to use that gun to blow his wife’s head off. Fair?"

        Dealer: "Do you plan to use this gun to blow off your wife's head?"

        Buyer: "No."

        How pray tell do you expect to discern someone's ultimate intent? Some of the guns used in recent high-profile crimes were bought legally months or years earlier.

        Of course, some leftists make the claim that anyone who wants to buy a gun is proving that they are mentally unstable and should not be allowed to do so.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          But if you tell a dealer that you DO intend to blow your wife's head off, he definitely will not sell to you.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Unless Eric Holders DoJ yells them to still sell him guns.

      3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

        Fair?

        No.

    4. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Beware. This is the kind of protection the police give under draconian gun control.

  31. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    "and the majority of members choose to interview their potential guests."

    That'd be a big "NOPE" from me. Vet yourself right out of business.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I'm OK with it. It's little different than stratified elites lending each other their summer houses (or stoners and each others' couches) over SMS or whatever. To act like it's going to take down or even really compete with Airbnb and the issues it has run into is pretty grandiose.

      1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

        Yours is a good take.

    2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      Is it because you are the sort of person who would damage the property that you're worried about being denied?

      1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

        It is because I'm the sort of person who doesn't want to have unnecessary F2F conversations.

  32. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Immigrant truck drivers have become collateral damage in the state's war with Trump"
    [...]
    "Many asylum-seeking immigrants and DACA recipients with valid documents were among the 17,000 commercial drivers whose licenses were canceled last month by California amid pressure from the Trump administration, cutting them off from their livelihood amid the busy holiday driving season..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/immigrant-truck-drivers-have-become-collateral-damage-in-the-states-war-with-trump/ar-AA1Ssbfx

    The Chron is blaming Trump for CA's inability to handle routine paperwork and further, claims it 'was a rare case of the state yielding to Trump's pressure' rather than a rare case of complying with the law.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Should never have been given a cdl if you cannot speak and read English.

      Has been a federal regulation for decades.

      CFR Title 49 § 391.11 General qualifications of drivers.

      (a) A person shall not drive a commercial motor vehicle unless he/she is qualified to drive a commercial motor vehicle. Except as provided in § 391.63, a motor carrier shall not require or permit a person to drive a commercial motor vehicle unless that person is qualified to drive a commercial motor vehicle.

      (b) Except as provided in subpart G of this part, a person is qualified to drive a motor vehicle if he/she—
      (1) Is at least 21 years old;
      (2) Can read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, to understand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and records;

      1. HorseConch   2 months ago

        I have traveled quite a bit of this country, and I'm yet to see road signs in any foreign language.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          Ohio state parks now have signs in Haitian Creole.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          .

        3. Minadin   2 months ago

          There are some signs near the Mexican border in both English and Spanish. Also some near the border with Quebec that have French in addition to English. But all the ones I've seen have had English. Never just the foreign language.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      17 fucking thousand?

      Jesus titty fucking Christ.

  33. Roberta   2 months ago

    Rebate checks aren't necessarily inflationary. If they're not new money, they don't increase M1. If this money gets spent faster than most, then by increasing the velocity of dollars, it might cause inflation temporarily, but not in the long run. If people just sock it away to make up for increased amounts they owed (as due to tariffs), then it won't even cause a temporary price inflation.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Careful there. Reason economists don't acknowledge M1. Inflation is only measured by the CPI.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      It's still money that could be reducing deficit spending. Seems to me that's still going to be equivalent to adding new money.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Based on Boehms thesis it is offset by money taken away from consumers technically.

  34. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >but also one that may open the door to discrimination."

    Yeah, that's the point.

    They have these things they do not think about - 'democracy' is always good, 'discrimination' always bad. They do not think, they do not want to have to process real world facts.

  35. swillfredo pareto   2 months ago

    Part of what makes Kindred different is its selectiveness...Having the ability to pick who stays in their homes...may open the door to discrimination.

    When I selectively choose to open my door I don't surrender my property rights and freedom of association. Like most area it has injected itself, the government has no role in the transaction.

  36. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    but also one that may open the door to discrimination.

    They are discriminating by design and that's not a bad thing.

    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

      Likely based on prior experience. One would think there is a fee involved, which would make it a private enterprise that can accept or reject any member it wants. Just because one can join something doesn't mean they are entitled to.

  37. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday rejected bipartisan congressional demands

    good for him. separation of powers is delicious.

  38. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Of course, pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation.

    Of course and is likely are very broad here

  39. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >> It makes no sense.

    and yet works over and over. get on the trolley.

  40. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

    President Donald Trump ordered a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers going into and leaving Venezuela, ratcheting up pressure on Caracas as the US builds up its military presence in the region,

    Ladies and gentlemen: Heeear’s the Peace President.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      louder than bombs!

    2. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

      Fuck off, KAR, and stop using Sandra's (misspelled) nick. You're not tricking anyone.

  41. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

    I have a question for the commentariat: how many of you morons complaining about getting checks from the government are ex-military? As a libertarian I can assure you that I complained about giving you guys any of money in the service of murdering people in the Middle East.

    What’s so wrong about giving stimulus checks to old people and those that need money (I don’t, BTW). I’d rather do that than waste it on the DoD rathole and fascists over at ICE.

    1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

      Here we see KAR isn’t actually asking a question at all. He’s using a false dilemma to force a moral accusation, while poisoning the well to ensure no good-faith reply is possible. It’s troll rhetoric designed to provoke, not reason.

      1. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

        No, I’m just saying that I’d rather my tax money go to old people who need it instead of it going to fascist murderers who haven’t thought about (or are fine with it!) their role in fascist US hegemony. Further, why should we pay one fucking cent to these goons in ICE? Fuck them! I hope they get shot in the neck and bleed out.

        1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

          Here KAR's no longer engaging in argument at all; he’s doubling down on a false dilemma and strawman while escalating into poisoning the well.
          He insists the issue is a binary choice between giving money to “old people who need it” or funding “fascist murderers,” deliberately erasing the many positions people actually hold (opposing both kinds of spending, objecting on constitutional or inflationary grounds, supporting veterans while opposing wars, etc.).

          At the same time, he replaces real views with a grotesque caricature, equating disagreement over stimulus with endorsement of fascist violence, so he can attack a villain he invented rather than the argument made.

          KAR then abandons persuasion entirely in favor of appeals to rage and disgust, ad hominem, and outright dehumanization, culminating in explicit wishes of violence.

          That move functions to pre-invalidate any reply (“poisoning the well”) and intimidate rather than reason.
          Layered on top is bad-faith identity impersonation: he continues to claim a libertarian identity while advocating collective guilt, selective redistribution, and violent rhetoric that contradict libertarian principles.

          In short, KAR’s replacing debate with moral intimidation and using false binaries, fabricated motives, and emotional abuse to shut down discussion rather than engage it.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          Lol. Ice, Ice Baby, you whiny bitch.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...He’s using a false dilemma to force a moral accusation, while poisoning the well to ensure no good-faith reply is possible..."

        Purely accidental; the sumbitch can't rub two brain cells together since he only has one.

        1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

          All the while he thinks he is clever.

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

      1. I would happily allow you to quit paying taxes.

      2. You should stop claiming to be a libertarian.

      3. You should quit with the awful attempt at spoofing someone smarter than you.

      4. You should consider suicide.

      1. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

        So, basically, you’re pissed off that you got money from the government by belonging to an organization that needlessly killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq and when someone calls you out you get pissy. Sad.

        BTW, i made all my money in the private sector and never once considered joining the military. That last part is against my principles and beneath me.

        1. ML (now paying)   2 months ago

          Here we see KAR deflecting and reframing through moral inversion to avoid addressing the derision aimed at him.
          Instead of responding to Bertram’s post, he changes the subject to a sweeping accusation about the Iraq war, imputes collective guilt to his opponent (“you got money by belonging to an organization that killed hundreds of thousands”), and then projects motive (“you’re pissed off”) to put the other person on the defensive.

          This is a classic DARVO-style maneuver (deny/deflect, attack, reverse victim and offender): he sidesteps the misconduct, attacks the critic’s character, and recasts himself as the morally superior truth-teller.

          The closing self-credentialing (“private sector,” “beneath me”) is status signaling meant to legitimize the attack while keeping the argument away from the original issue.

          1. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

            God, I’ve never been attacked rhetorically by a LLM, but I guess there’s a first time for everything.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          Let me stress this one:

          1. I would happily allow you to quit paying taxes

    3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      You are a sick fucker, not libertarian, seek help.

  42. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Of course, pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation. We learned this lesson during the first round of stimulus checks during the COVID-19 pandemic, during Trump's first term, and we learned this during the American Rescue Plan round of stimulus checks, during former President Joe Biden's term.

    You, Liz, need a refresher course in Econ 101 as badly as Trump. Inflation is from an increase in the money supply. Taxing and redistributing money as Trump may propose does not increase the money supply. It is not inflation.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      If we weren't in deficit, or the stimulus was offset with other cuts.

      But since the budget is in deficit either way, isn't it necessary that the fed will need to inflate the currency (more than otherwise needed) to make up the difference?

      In other words, the feds will pay their debtors the same as they would without the rebate, but with the rebate they pay the debtors plus the stimulus checks thereby additionally inflating the currency the amount of the stimulus checks.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        >> the feds will pay their debtors

        when do they do that?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Whenever someone cashes in a bond or a government check I guess.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        Yeah, unless the (still hypothetical check) money was going to be spent elsewhere, but won't be now, it's still the same effect as far as I can tell. As long as we're in deficit spending, any additional outlays are essentially money printing (as far as I understand these things).

        1. Roberta   2 months ago

          Then you're not keeping track of both sides of the balance sheet. More borrowing comes from somewhere. People buying bonds aren't spending that money in other ways. Most people (i.e. not the Fed) aren't collateralizing those bonds. Whether inflation in dollars occurs depended on what the OMC decided a few days ago.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Debt is inflationary because banks and feds loan money they don't have. They create money to loan. It's how the fed tries to control inflation with interest rates.

            Most bonds are bought by banks/investors.

            This on a bigger scale is how we got Bidenflation.

        2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

          No.

          The money was handed to the US as foreign currency.

          Not printed from thin air like the abhorrent democrat spending and any spending that occurs beyond revenues through deficits and increasing debt.

          The money from foreign sources will enter the US and therefore increase the money supply chasing goods, sure. But the dollar will not be devalued.

          However the economy is not great and people are far worse off in debt now since Covid and the Biden/Democrat abhorrent spending so this influx of foreign money will not cause inflation as suggested.

          In fact it should save Americans a bunch of money because the fed will not have to follow up with rounds of quantitative easing, printing money devaluing the dollar, to keep inflation at their targeted 2%.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            The money was handed to the US as foreign currency.

            This is incorrect. Bur even if it wasn't, money coming from nothing or from another country is the same. It increases the money supply which devalues the dollar.

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            US taxes must be paid in UD dollars.

  43. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

    Dear Leader runs a 4 trillion dollar deficit in his first term and is on the path of doing that in his 2nd term and his butt tenders here at reason.com want to talk about inflation. LOL. Fuck off, Private Gomer.

    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Sorry but your post is completely fake news. You've been lied to, find a better source and research the facts.

  44. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    "Of course, pumping money into the economy is likely to result in inflation."

    This money is not at all the same. This money will go to folks struggling because of the abhorrent democrat spending policies which of course caused inflation and harmed all but the top.

    Therefore all but the top will get a little help to get caught back up from what was caused by Biden and the democrats.

    And it will help boost the economy without inflation and pay down debt owed by consumers.

  45. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Yep. The stupidest side of Trump.
    Call it what you want; it is wealth distribution.

    How about paying off that massive debt or cutting the THEFT?

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