Survey: 91 Percent of College Students Think 'Words Can Be Violence.' That Could Feed Real Violence.
But there's a silver lining—sort of.
Of all the stupid ideas that have emerged in recent years, there may be none worse than the insistence that unwelcome words are the same as violence. This false perception equates physical acts that can injure or kill people with disagreements and insults that might cause hurt feelings and potentially justifies responding to the latter with the former. After all, if words are violence, why not rebut a verbal sparring partner with an actual punch? Unfortunately, the idea is embedded on college campuses where a majority of undergraduate students agree that words and violence can be the same thing.
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Most Believe Words Can Be Violence
"Ninety one percent of undergraduate students believe that words can be violence, according to a new poll by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression [FIRE] and College Pulse," FIRE announced last week. "The survey's findings are especially startling coming in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination—an extreme and tragic example of the sharp difference between words and violence."
The survey posed questions about speech and political violence to undergraduate students at Utah Valley University, where Kirk was murdered, and at colleges elsewhere—2,028 students overall. FIRE and College Pulse compared the student responses to those of members of the general public who were separately polled.
Specifically, one question asked how much "words can be violence" described respondents' thoughts. Twenty-two percent of college undergraduates answered that the sentiment "describes my thoughts completely," 25 percent said it "mostly" described their thoughts, 28 percent put it at "somewhat," and 15 percent answered "slightly." Only 9 percent answered that the "words can be violence" sentiment "does not describe my thoughts at all."
It's difficult to get too worked up about those who "slightly" believe words can be violence, but that still leaves us at 75 percent of the student population. And almost half of students "completely" or "mostly" see words and violence as essentially the same thing. That's a lot of young people who struggle to distinguish between an unwelcome expression and a punch to the nose.
Depressingly, 34 percent of the general public "completely" or "mostly" agree. Fifty-nine percent at least "somewhat" believe words can be violence.
In 2017, when the conflation of words and violence was relatively new, Jonathan Haidt, a New York University psychology professor, worried that the false equivalence fed into the simmering mental health crisis among young people. He and FIRE President Greg Lukianoff wrote in The Atlantic that "growing numbers of college students have become less able to cope with the challenges of campus life, including offensive ideas, insensitive professors, and rude or even racist and sexist peers" and that the rise in mental health issues "is better understood as a crisis of resilience."
Conflating Words and Violence Encourages Violence
Telling young people who haven't been raised to be resilient and to deal with the certainty of encountering debate, disagreement, and rude or hateful expressions in an intellectually and ideologically diverse world plays into problems with anxiety and depression. It teaches that the world is more dangerous than it actually is rather than a place that requires a certain degree of toughness. Worse, if words are violence it implies that responding "in kind" is justified.
"At a time of rapidly rising political polarization in America, it helps a small subset of that generation justify political violence," Haidt and Lukianoff added.
Sure enough, last week Gallup reported that "age is the strongest predictor of attitudes toward political violence, with young adults aged 18–29 more likely than other age groups to say that it is sometimes OK to use violence to achieve a political goal." Thirty percent of respondents 18–29 say it is "sometimes" acceptable to use violence to achieve political goals, compared to 21 percent of those 30–44, 13 percent of those 45–59, and 4 percent of people 60 and older.
And yes, acceptance of political violence has changed over the tears. For those 18 to 29, it was 22 percent in 1970 and 21 percent in 1995. For 30-to-44-year-olds, it was 16 percent in 1970 and 15 percent in 1995. The percentage remained largely unchanged for those 45–59 and dropped for people over 60.
Kirk was assassinated by, allegedly, a 22-year-old who strongly disliked what the conservative activist had to say. The incident is a real-life example of the dangers of conflating speech and violence. It's not acceptable to respond to words you don't like with physical force.
There's a Silver Lining—Sort of
That said, there is encouraging news. The percentage of college undergrads who say it is at least "rarely" acceptable to shout down speakers to prevent them from speaking on campus has dropped to 68 percent from 72 percent last spring. Forty-seven percent of students say it is at least rarely acceptable to block other students from attending a campus speech, down from 54 percent in the spring. And 32 percent find it acceptable to use violence to stop a speech, down from 34 percent.
But sentiments can be overshadowed by high-profile incidents like assassinations. "Because of what happened to Charlie Kirk," 45 percent of students are "less comfortable" expressing their views on controversial political topics during in-class discussions, notes FIRE in its findings. And neither sentiments nor comfort in self-expression have universally shifted.
"Moderate and conservative students across the country became significantly less likely to say that shouting down a speaker, blocking entry to an event, or using violence to stop a campus speech are acceptable actions," writes FIRE. "In contrast, liberal students' support for these tactics held steady, or even increased slightly."
As a consequence, 84 percent of Utah Valley students say the country is headed in the wrong direction when it comes to people's ability to freely express their views. At other colleges and universities, 73 percent feel the same way (almost identical to the feeling of the public at large). It should be noted, however, that the news is more positive when students are asked about their own campuses; 53 percent say their own schools are headed in the right direction.
These students are headed into a world in which many of their peers see little difference, if any, between words and violence. They adhere to this position even after Kirk was murdered for, almost certainly, what he had to say. And they do so in an environment of surging political violence.
Americans worry that the country is becoming less friendly to free expression. But the insistence of too many people that words and violence are the same thing is a big part of the problem.
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Gen X was taught that:
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"
Well, I wish that people in general could live with TINY bit of nuance... Words are NOT violence, sure! But words can CAUSE violence! At the logical extreme, think of Our Dear Orange Caligula-Cummander issuing cummands to kill non-violent, peaceful travelers on the high seas, without even attempting arrest, let alone a trial!
>>But words can CAUSE violence!
no. only idiots do the violence because someone said words.
I am deeply concerned about these strikes, but they quite certainly were not initiated by words, but by Venezuelan drug smuggling, fostered and facilitated by that country's government, which is more concerning still.
This is not to say the strikes are appropriate.
Words do not cause violence. Everyone is completely responsible for their own actions, no matter how much someone's words may upset or enrage them.
Time-travel back to when Mike Pence faced mobs of Trumpanzees gone Apeshit, chanting "Hang Mike Pence", and explain to him to be calm, cool, and collected, because... They are JUST WORDS, after all!
Or witches facing witch-burners, and the whole nine yards of sad, sad history here... The Tulsa massacre comes to mind also, which our school teachers were TOO cowardly to teach us about!!!
Hang Mike Pence! Dear Orange Caligula agrees!!!
“Hang Mike Pence”!!! Dear Leader agrees!!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-defends-jan-6-rioters-hang-mike-pence-chant-newly-n1283798
Trump defends Jan. 6 rioters’ ‘hang Mike Pence’ chant in new audio
The audio captured part of an interview ABC News’ Jonathan Karl conducted with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in March for Karl’s upcoming book.
Trump is PROUD of His Imperial Support for His Storm Troopers and His Political Violence, and can SNOT shut His Trap about shit!!!
PS, Mike Pence’s dangerous words and ideas were that votes, voters, established democratic norms and processes, peaceful transfers of power, and the USA Constitution should actually be RESPECTED!!! Now just IMAGINE THAT!!! This was HERESY to True Trumpaloos!!!
Also, the "Honorable" Judge Sir-Dude-Sir, for who knows HOW many thousands of years now, pronounces, "I hereby sentence you to DEATH!" And the hangman knows where shit's paycheck is cumming from, and fears being cast OUT of the tribe, should shit disobey! Maybe even murdered, oooops, I mean, sentenced, for treason, insubordination, and insurrection!
Is the resulting death REALLY 100%, totally, the hangman's fault? Really and truly now?
2 assassination attempts on trump.
Kirk killed.
Tim pools house shot at.
Multiple shootings at ICE.
Trantifa murders.
But remember. Kimmel was suspended for 3 days. That's the true violence.
Cite?
I dont link to Chinese websites.
In your own words, Molly.
'Don't you read the news?'
Kill yourself.
Broken-record-playing Demonic Death-Worshitter Worshits Death... More news at 6:66!!!
Cuntsorevaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant, serpent, and slurp-pants (pants-slurper) of the Evil One?
EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…
He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
He’s truly, completely a necrophiliac,
His brain, squirming toad-like, is REALY, really whack!
Has no thoughts that help the people,
He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
Kool-Aid man, please listen,
You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
Who would feed you? Whose tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!
Signed, Yours Truly, Heaven-on-Earth-Based Skeptic of Servants, Serpents, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One
Are you retarded or do you just have the memory of a goldfish?
Don't forget assassination attempt on the Supreme Court or rioting at the White House.
So words are violence and according to that girl's sign, silence is also violence. Great.
Words are violence and silence is violence, yes...
Did you know that shakes and snails and poopy-dog tails are ALSO violence?
Snakes.
And Stormy whether you like her or not.
My Jake, the One-Eyed Trouser Snake, DOES like Spermy Daniels!!!
(Entirely TOOO much sperm, though, so my eyeballs and gag reflex, in this case, has to over-ride my Jake, the One-Eyed Trouser Snake!)
That picture says it all. America has a white college girl problem. The demographic that has unquestionably led the most pampered, comfortable lives somehow hate the country and culture that provided it. Really pretty sickening.
She needs to spend some time learning how to make sammiches.
You know my (prep school exclusive college) niece to a T. Her brother is much smarter but even worse I think they envision a (dys) utopia where people like their uncle are reeducated and, failing that, disappear
AWFLs in training.
LOL - have you seen the excellent film American Fiction? I highly recommend it. And the beginning dovetails with your observation - a blue haired white female college student gets a black professor suspended for insisting on displaying this classes' story in a course on Southern American literature. The story is Flannery O'Connor's The Artificial Negro. The professor tells the student she will encounter uncomfortable words and concepts in any such course, and if he can handle it, she can.
So she complains, and he is suspended, and the film shows what happens after that. Again, I recommend it. Jeffrey Wright's performance is outstanding.
I'll give it a look, thanks. Wright has been good in everything I've seen him in.
The percentage of college undergrads who say it is at least "rarely" acceptable to shout down speakers to prevent them from speaking on campus has dropped to 68 percent from 72 percent last spring.
There's a very obvious follow up question to ask these morons and that is: Would it be acceptable for someone else to shout down your speech?
Hmmm, so you are saying that words about words cause violence? So the solution should be to let bullies say whatever they want about anybody and physical violence should go down because we would no longer view mean words as violence.
This is shallow analysis. Yes, making blanket statements about words and violence is weak, but how about "words can cause harm"? Or would you rather say "Psychological Harm"?
How different is this than the normal hyperbole spewed by Trump and his minions every day? You know, like a package of Fentynal can kill 300 million people and so when he catches a bad guy he saves the lives of 300 million people? Does this kind of word abuse lead to bad outcomes like assasinations too?
When will we finally get the anti-anti-woke backlash? You all are still living in 2020 while the current 2025 regime is melting our minds.
..the current 2025 regime is melting our minds.
Only if you have a weak one,
But weakness is a virtue and entitles people to power. I learned that in my post-modern critical theory course.
I didn't realize they allow access to the internet from the psyche ward. Time to take your meds and go to bed before you decide the nurse asking you to calm down is speaking violence and you literally harm her.
"Mentally ill" or “insane”, my ass! Whoever disagrees with totalitarians is "mentally ill"! That makes YOU just like the communist totalitarian assholes of the USSR who used psychiatry to punish political dissidents, asshole!
Sure… All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
Well easy peasy then we just need to go to some college campus' and slay them with words or worse write your sign using cursive...
shame they've been misled. close the conformity factories.
"Ninety one percent of undergraduate students believe that words can be violence, according to a new poll by the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression [FIRE] and College Pulse"
Ninety one percent of undergraduate students need a chance to experience some actual violence. Maybe a semester abroad in the Donbas, eastern Nigeria, or Tibet.
alternatively, experience the 80s. excessive sex drugs & rock & roll took away time for stupid protests.
Tell me that 91% of undergraduate students have never been earnestly punched in the face or kicked in the cooter without telling me...
"That Could Feed Real Violence"
Instead of 'real' violence, they should say physical violence. By using 'real' they rule out the existence of psychic violence, damage inflicted on one's psyche, spirit, sense of self, or however you want to call it. Words can do violence to the psyche, you see it in the sports arena where words are used to weaken the fighting spirit of an opposing team. We don't call them sharp tongues for nothing.
Crazy Horse, the Indian fighter rode up to within musket range, turned his back on the hundred strong troop under Col Fetterman, pulled down his breaches and bared his ass, while US balls kicked up dust around him. He then returned, and the US fell for the provocation, followed, and were lured into a massacre that took 81 lives.
That "That Could Feed Real Violence" quote is from the headline. The denial of psychic violence and the implication that students believe that words can inflict physical harm. That's the rest of it.
Remember when you bragged about your award for donating blood?
You idiot. Do you think those cavalry soldiers felt "harmed" by Crazy Horse's red butt? Or maybe just pissed-off?
Now tell us why BP had to change the name of the oil discovery, and later producing field, from Crazy Horse to Thunder Horse? Do you think all those sensitive Indians, and their paleface allies, suffered violence?
"Do you think those cavalry soldiers felt "harmed" by Crazy Horse's red butt? "
Their pride was hurt. In the words of Marcelus:
Now the night of the fight, you may
feel a slight sting, that's pride
fuckin' wit ya. Fuck pride! Pride
only hurts, it never helps.
That's a little too harsh. Pride keeps us taking care of appearances, motivates us to pay our debts, etc. But if Fetterman hadn't lost his cool and fall for Mr. Horse's ruse, 81 soldiers wouldn't have been massacred. Fuck Pride! should have been the order of the day.
So when you are in my face screaming like a lunatic I am okay to simply punch you and then you will walk away? Understanding of course you deserve my reaction which is equivalent to your screaming in my face with your violent words.
I literally had no idea what you were saying but you were screaming and that invoked anger in me and since your words are violence it affected my psyche and enraged me therefore I get to take it out on you physically as an equal and opposite reaction to your violent words. Otherwise the anger might fester and further harm my psyche if I do not act at that moment.
And by allowing physical violence to be an accepted reaction to your violent screaming of violent words at me then you can't claim mental damage, only I can.
Okay it's settled.
"So when you are in my face screaming like a lunatic I am okay to simply punch you"
If you are asking for my permission, the answer is no. You may not simply punch me.
"Understanding of course you deserve my reaction which is equivalent to your screaming in my face with your violent words."
You are not understanding. I never said they were equivalent, just two forms of violence - physical and mental. The difference is that physical violence is a step up on the ladder of escalation. That's why physical fights are started with verbal abuse. You understand? It's not a difficult concept. If you respond to verbal abuse with physical violence, you are escalating the situation.
"your violent screaming of violent words at me then you can't claim mental damage, only I can"
I agree. If a parent routinely verbally abused a small child, That's going to leave mental scars. Might take decades or a lifetime to heal. Physical trauma can heal in a matter of days.
That's a lot of young people who struggle to distinguish between an unwelcome expression and a BULLET TO THE NECK.
FTFY
Tell the democrats to STFU and stop making violence their only discourse. This elevated with George Floyd but the democrats started this under Obama and only increased the vitriol since.
"Americans worry that the country is becoming less friendly to free expression. But the insistence of too many people that words and violence are the same thing is a big part of the problem."
I wish to Heaven those styling themselves as journalists had enough grasp of language and reality to avoid conflating "leftist" and "liberal." While I think some genuine liberalism remains on the left, it is not much, and not found at all among many progressives. Progressivism has been, since its inception, a highly illiberal movement, and has not improved in that area since.
If David Duke were to try to speak at my university I would try to shout him down.
Anti-free speech, then.
Just like the elderly woman who walked into a strip club because she wanted a cup of coffee and said, "Wait, this is disgusting, this should be illegal, shut it down."
I’d just ignore him.
Edit: I might point and laugh, like we used to do to the retarded klan guys when they went on Jerry Springer.
The title should read "Survey: 91 Percent of College Students are Brain-Washed Idiots."
"Words are Violence!", but you 'icky' Trump fans are against free-speech! /s
"only Black Lives Matter & White Silence is Violence!", but you 'icky' Trump fans are racist! /s
Wonder how much richer the self-projection can get.
They believe it is violence if they don’t agree with it, but they can say anything they choose and are “persecuted”.
The only difference between now and 40 years ago is that children remain and act as children until they are 30 today. This is because no one is raising them to be responsible. Just get another life in your video game…