The Ukraine-Russia Deal That Wasn't

Plus: DOGE takes new form, inside a birth cult, and more...

Ever-shifting stipulations: While Ukrainian and American delegations made headway in Geneva, Switzerland, hammering out a peace deal with Russia to end Vladimir Putin's bombardment of Ukraine by the Thanksgiving deadline set by President Donald Trump, Russia bombed the crap out of Kyiv.

The plan keeps shifting. What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points; the Thanksgiving deadline, which was always overly ambitious, has been scrapped. The most important things to hammer out—limits on how large the Ukrainian military may be in the future, a ban on NATO troops inside Ukraine, where new territorial boundaries might be drawn—haven't really been focused on at this stage. But it seems Trump's top guys—Secretary of State Marco Rubio, special envoy Steve Witkoff, and oddly gifted diplomat slash son-in-law Jared Kushner—"believed that the combination of Ukraine's unfolding corruption scandal and Russia's incremental battlefield gains put new pressure on [Ukraine] to cut a deal," per The New York Times. They ended up meeting, quite a few times, with Russian diplomats, and the deal that ultimately came together looked a lot more favorable to Russia than Ukraine.

"By any measure, the administration's rollout of the new plan was maladroit at best," argues The New York Times. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio tried to downplay the planniness of the plan, calling it merely "a list of potential ideas" for how to broker peace.

The deal would have been one with "no punishment for Russia," per NPR's Eleanor Beardsley. "Russia would be welcomed back into the international fold, sanctions lifted, and there's a joint Russian-American Arctic exploration deal in this plan, so possible big business opportunities, rare earth minerals and all that." Ukraine, on the other hand, would have been expected to give up territory in the Donbas, and be limited from aspirations of ever joining NATO.

Now, Trump is trying to back Volodymyr Zelenskyy into a bit of a corner, saying if he refuses negotiations he'll be free "to fight his little heart out."

It might sorta be working: "Today our delegation returned from Geneva after negotiations with the American side and European partners," wrote Zelenskyy on X. "Now the list of necessary steps to end the war can become doable. As of now, after Geneva, there are fewer points—no longer 28—and many of the right elements have been taken into account in this framework." If you say so, sir.

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Scenes from New York: I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal. (Torn between somewhat disliking cats and the fact that they're probably useful for rat control.)

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QUICK HITS

• "Unlike home birth—birth at home with a midwife in attendance—freebirth means giving birth without any medical support," report Sirin Kale and Lucy Osborne for The Guardian. "FBS promotes a version widely seen as extreme, even among freebirth advocates: it is anti-ultrasound, which it falsely claims harms babies, downplays serious medical conditions and promotes wild pregnancy, meaning pregnancy without any prenatal care." Free Birth Society "is not, by any conventional definition, a cult. But former FBS members often use the language of high-control groups to describe the hold they say they felt the organization had over them, leading them to behave in ways they now find hard to understand." And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.
• The "Department of Government Efficiency has disbanded with eight months left to its mandate, ending an initiative launched with fanfare as a symbol of Trump's pledge to slash the government's size but which critics say delivered few measurable savings," reports Reuters. "'That doesn't exist,' Office of Personnel Management Director Scott Kupor told Reuters earlier this month when asked about DOGE's status.…The OPM, the federal government's human resources office, has since taken over many of DOGE's functions, according to Kupor." And "at least two prominent DOGE employees are now involved with the National Design Studio, a new body created through an executive order signed by Trump in August. That body is headed by Joe Gebbia, co-founder of Airbnb, and Trump's order directed him to beautify government websites."
• "The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans," reports Politico. 
• "I might be the only American on X," writes River Page.
• President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon, reports Axios. (Wow, two socialists in one month? He's on a roll.)

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points...

Soon down to one single point: A massive Trump tower/wall separating the lands.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

With Casinos and dancing girls!

Actually be a great idea, given the people who rule on either side of the border. A place where Ukrainian and Russian can set aside their differences and spend an evening united in debauchery.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

So... The way the centari achieved peace on their home world?

[Fist of Etiquette]

But high class. Like The Continental from John Wick.

[Ajsloss]

Nobody needs 28 points of peace.

[Mother's Lament]

"The plan keeps shifting. What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points"

WHAT IS NEGOTIATION, LIZ?

In Reason's world you both don't come to the table with a wish list and then whittle it down to what each side can live with.

Instead you draw a line in the sand and if they don't acquiesce to all your demands then it's Shock and Awe time.

[Zeb]

I think you might be reading too much into what can be interpreted as merely an observation and not a complaint. Liz, at least (not so sure about some others at Reason), seems to be fairly thoughtful and open minded about these things. This is, after all, just a "here's what's in the news today" blog, not an in-depth analysis.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Despite sullum, avg white retard, sarc and others cheering for comey yesterday, turns out he isnt out of the woods yet.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3288

Whenever an indictment or information charging a felony is dismissed for any reason after the period prescribed by the applicable statute of limitations has expired, a new indictment may be returned in the appropriate jurisdiction within six calendar months of the date of the dismissal of the indictment or information, or, in the event of an appeal, within 60 days of the date the dismissal of the indictment or information becomes final, or, if no regular grand jury is in session in the appropriate jurisdiction when the indictment or information is dismissed, within six calendar months of the date when the next regular grand jury is convened

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

He will skate.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Hoping it forces the senate to end the blue slip policy that led to all this shit. Even that would be a win.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

The other question in all this is of course the constitutional question. Nowhere in the constitution does it grant power of article 3 to appoint article 2 officers. Yet the 1986 law that allows for it does. This has never been challenged at scotus. This sets up a scenario where article 3 can favor their own article 2 prosecutors, in violation of a separation of powers.

We have also seen scotus strike down article 1 appointments and protections this year.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Seems like an obvious conflict of interest. Maybe Trump is setting up the challenge here.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"By any measure, the administration's rollout of the new plan was maladroit at best," argues The New York Times.

Everyone loves Trump's sausages until they see what's being stuffed into the casing.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Babies and puppies?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Searches for epstein have catered since the files were released. Almost like the outrage was all performative.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-did-democrats-suddenly-go-quiet-epstein-files

[Idaho-Bob]

Almost...you said almost

I'm betting the Molly G's, Sarcs, Jeffs, etc are not even Americans. Similar to X trolls. Selling "outrage" to get traffic up.

Molly for sure.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

I fully expect the ones you mentioned are the reason those accounts exist, to trick retards.

[Dillinger]

>>to trick retards.

literally zero other reason Nick Fuentes has eyes.

[Juliana Frink]

"Selling "outrage" to get traffic up."

So it's a profitable psyop to boot. Time to stop feeding the trolls.

[Dillinger]

"Selling Outrage" should be megyn's media company name

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Isn’t Pedo Jeffy actually Canadian?

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

No. Apparently Jeffy is from Kansas City.

[MollyGodiva]

The files have not been released, only the law that requires them to be released.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

Then get your Democrat activist judges out of the fucking way, Dr. Retard.

[MollyGodiva]

MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Lol!

You should email the judges still working to not release them. All in blue districts.

[Moonrocks]

This was entirely predictable based solely on how much dirt on Trump vs. how much dirt on Democrats they're likely to contain.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

For anyone following the corporate earnings season over the last month, a clear theme has emerged from the giants of European and Asian industry: President Trump’s tariff regime is starting to significantly reduce their profits. But hold on. Weren’t we told that tariffs would simply be passed straight on to American consumers in the form of higher prices? That they were a tax on ordinary working people? Instead, it is already becoming clear that at least some of the costs are being paid by foreign conglomerates and even by foreign governments.

https://www.commonplace.org/p/matthew-lynn-tariffs-are-a-taxjust

[Idaho-Bob]

The usual suspects arriving in 3, 2, 1...

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

The ones who raged at the BBB for not raising income taxes?

[Quicktown Brix]

Like Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie and Elon?

[Dillinger]

two one-trick ponies, a dinosaur and a billionaire walk into a bar ...

[Quicktown Brix]

The usual suspects arriving in 3, 2, 1...
0

a clear theme has emerged from the giants of European and Asian industry: President Trump’s tariff regime is starting to significantly reduce their profits...it is already becoming clear that at least some of the costs are being paid by foreign conglomerates and even by foreign governments.

What a weak and flawed conclusion. All this shows is the damage tariffs do to markets.

Here they site research, consistent with other recent studies, showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs. Combined with other research it's becoming clear that tariffs is reducing trade, growth and consumption world-wide exactly as predicted. Those reduced profits are symptomatic of the reduction in world manufacturing due to the disruption of markets.

Even the research sited for this article states:

most of the pass-through is gradual rather than discrete. After the tariffs were implemented, prices followed a new, persistent upward trajectory, marking a clear break from
pre-tariff trends. This pattern likely reflects the uncertainty surrounding the level and duration of the tariffs that retailers would ultimately face. In such an environment, firms adjust prices cautiously and incrementally, updating them as new information becomes available rather than implementing large, once-and-for-all increases. As a result, tariff shocks are more likely to generate a sustained period of upward pressure on prices—prolonging inflation dynamics—rather than producing an immediate, one-time shift in the price level....domestic goods were also affected, exhibiting a milder but sustained increase in prices since March

What this means is that US importers/distributors and retailers are absorbing most of the remainder of the tariffs. That is AMERICANS.

This is further supported by other research:

US firms were absorbing most of the tariff burden through compressed spreads between the cost of imported goods paid by the firms and the selling prices they received.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/who-paying-trumps-tariffs-so-far-its-us-businesses

Instead, however, import prices are essentially close to where they would have been expected pre-2025. Point estimates are, if anything, higher not lower year-to-date….This outcome is exactly the opposite of what we would expect if foreigner producers were absorbing some of the tariff costs.

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/short-run-effects-2025-tariffs-so-far

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Keep moving the ball under the cups, conman.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Those ripples are coming any day now.

He even raged against the 2.3 estimate for next year from the atl fed.

[Quicktown Brix]

Nope

[Medulla Oblongata]

"Cited", you mean the research that is "cited".

[Quicktown Brix]

Yes. Thanks for the correction.

[Incunabulum]

>What a weak and flawed conclusion. All this shows is the damage tariffs do to markets.

I see you got up early to move the goalposts.

We never talked about 'the damage' tariffs do to markets. We knew they would do 'damage' - that was the *point* of the tariffs. The point of contention is that you claimed they *would only damage Americans*. Remember the whole 'tariffs are a tax on Americans' line you've been pusing?

*I* told you about tax incidence and you ignored it. You insisted only Americans would pay the tax because you assumed that American consumers are in the weakest position and would just have to take it.

>showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners.

>That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs.

Well, yes, yes it does. Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

>Combined with other research it's becoming clear that tariffs is reducing trade, growth and consumption world-wide exactly as predicted.

This part of the paragraph has nothing to do with the previous part of the paragraph. It is a non-sequitur.

1. That the global market is reducing trade, etc, doesn't change who is paying what in the tariffs. You can cite it as evidence of further 'damage' but that is a separate thing.

2. The 'damage' is the US rewiring the global economy with the US in a more self-sufficient mode. The reason all those foreign companies are suffering is, yes, because American - the majority of nearly every country's export market - are buying less from them.

You call it 'damage' but its just a modification of the global order, no different than the modification done to the prior order to get where we were in 2024.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Thank you for doing this. I'm tired of Mike's retarded insistence on always being wrong.

Their continued belief in a free market defined as disadvantaged to america and advantaged to foreign countries is maddening.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

And imports are only down 5%, exports up 1%, while deficits in trade drop. This is the damage Mike is crying about.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/Press-Release/current_press_release/ft900.pdf

He also cries that Americans are gaining jobs this year over immigrants, reducing domestic welfare.

[Quicktown Brix]

Crying? I'm making reasoned arguments.

You're projecting.

[Quicktown Brix]

The point of contention is that you claimed they *would only damage Americans*.

This is your assumption. I NEVER said ONLY Americans would pay. I may have said Americans would pay or even American will pay most of the tariffs. And studies are showing this to be the case.

Remember the whole 'tariffs are a tax on Americans' line you've been pusing?

They are a tax, but this is a non sequitur about what percentage is paid by Americans.

you assumed that American consumers are in the weakest position and would just have to take it.

And they are.

Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners....Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

You can't be this simple. You should really read the articles. It says 20% is paid by American consumers. Americans aren't only consumers. They are importers, manufacturers businesses. That's who's paying most of the tariffs for now. Multiple studies show this. None so far indicate otherwise. That's how reason and logic work.

This part of the paragraph has nothing to do with the previous part of the paragraph. It is a non-sequitur.

You really don't see the connection? It is an alternate explanation of why foreign companies may have reduced profits.

The 'damage' is the US rewiring the global economy with the US in a more self-sufficient mode. The reason all those foreign companies are suffering is, yes, because American - the majority of nearly every country's export market - are buying less from them....You call it 'damage' but its just a modification of the global order, no different than the modification done to the prior order to get where we were in 2024.

Semantics. And the benefits you suggest here have yet to materialize. So far only losses have been observed.

[Zeb]

>showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners.

>That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs.

Well, yes, yes it does. Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

So the only things that exist are American consumers and foreign manufacturers? There are other possibilities, such as American companies absorbing part of the cost and not passing it all on to consumers.

[Idaho-Bob]

This blog post explores...

Yeah, that's where I quit.

[Quicktown Brix]

That's too bad, but I appreciate that you followed the link and read that far.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

The seditious 6 video is completely backfiring.

RNC Research

@RNCResearch
CBS: "How do you respond to the allegations...from your colleagues, fellow veterans that what you put out there is weakening and corrosive?"

CROW: "They know better. We were very clear in the video that what we are talking about is unlawful orders."

CBS: "Specifically what?'

CROW: "Send troops into polling stations, kill terrorists' families."

CBS: "He hasn't done those things..."

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1992655376496357601

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

Are they tipping their hand as to what they’ll do should they ever be in a position of power again?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Yes. 100% projection.

[HorseConch]

Those are just inconvenient truths. ManBearPig knows all about that.

[MollyGodiva]

The video had it's intended effect. It told service members that the Ds have their back if they obey their oath.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...the Ds have their back..."

You're a real laugh-riot, slimy pile of lying lefty shit.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

You’re right on the that it had its intended effect; however, you’re dead wrong about that second sentence. Their effect was to try to create disunity and mutiny in our armed services. And no, the Democrats will never have their backs.

[HorseConch]

Service members should trust the Ds about as far as they can throw JB Pritzker.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

True. However, I wouldn’t mind throwing JB Pritzker from a trebuchet.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

No. It was democrats, ex IC, pushing a soft coup. Now you literally have democrats threatening any troops and lawyers who act on the law like Ruben Gallego and schiff.

Youre a leftist authoritarian doc retard.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

The actual effect is that they declared themselves to be seditionists and traitors. Like you are, Tony.

[Idaho-Bob]

This is the beauty of social media. They HAVE to say the quiet part out loud, for all the world to know.

We know who is seditious, murderous, pedo, and flat-out mentally unstable.

[Mother's Lament]

"It told service members that the Ds have their back if they obey their oath."

Violating your oath for DNC political posturing is not keeping your oath no matter how you try and frame it, clowntits.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"Send troops into polling stations, kill terrorists' families."

"Building concentration camps, gassing people,'
There's a LOT he hasn't done.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Dems also tried pulling the Neville Chamberlain trope yesterday.

[Super Scary]

I'd be interested to see through the eyes of the average TDS victim, at least for a short time. Do they see a mustache and horns on Trump?

[Mother's Lament]

He's like the gnostic demiurge for them. An evil creator god who binds men to mortal bodies. He can do anything and it's always malevolent.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

…beautify government websites

LOL

[Incunabulum]

If they only made rats illegal then they would not need an exception for the illegal cats.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Could do like Alberta. Course it means having poison dumped on the populous for a time and then giving up your property rights for government inspections.

https://www.alberta.ca/albertas-rat-control-program#:~:text=Alberta's%20rat%2Dfree%20status%20means,eradicated%20through%20proven%20control%20methods.

[Mother's Lament]

Most of the time they're tipping over haybales near the Saskatchewan and Montana borders and blasting them with shotguns. They don't have to worry about the BC border as the Rockies create an impenetrable barrier.

The "inspections" are almost always done by the property owners who call control the second they spot a rat. Farmers don't want rats and the rat control is free.

The biggest assist is winter temps. Southern Alberta can often get to 105 in the summer but down to -45 in the winter. That 150 degree swing really hampers natural movement.

As for northern Alberta, the towns are too far apart and the boreal forest too full of things that eat rats for them to make it unless they hitch a ride on something.

[Eeyore]

I picture AI driven robot cats programmed to run around the city killing all small mamals.

[Medulla Oblongata]

My barn cats bring us all manner of small mammals, voles, mice, rats, moles, rabbits, squirrels, and also lizards (which I know are not mammals) ... but they don't always kill them first. So I get to have that fun.

[Eeyore]

I was watching the other day a cat video of cats adding ingredients to soup/chili being cooked on the stove.

Tiny lizards make chili more authentically Taxan.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Another ICE abuse hoax went viral again. This time regarding a "restaurant worker in a headlock." Illegal ran into the restaurant trying to evade ICE. Was being arrested for statutory rape of a minor.

https://x.com/DougHenwood/status/1991627170654089237

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

At this point I am opposed to ice deportations.
Kill the illegals on the spot, dump the corpse in mexico

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

The Soylent Corporation would like a word.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Only allowed to shoot citizens. Ask sarcjeff.

[HorseConch]

Only if they trespass. Not if they resist arrest or assault officers. What is the official stance on shooting people that put bears in trunks?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Self defense.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal.

In a city run by rats? Who would have thought.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Blagojevich is talking about all of Obamas corrupt acts as a senator.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/24/blagojevich-makes-explosive-claims-about-the-obamas-n4946353

[shadydave]

He has the receipts on this. It won't matter. If you honestly think you can get to where Obama was in Chicago politics and not be hopelessly corrupt...

It's like the old R. Budd Dwyer situation: I mean sure the guy was corrupt, but all the other corrupt people decided to lay everything at his feet so they all could get off scot free.

[Quicktown Brix]

That's why I say Hey man, nice shot.

[Ajsloss]

What a good shot, man.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

This should be fun. Blago was doing the typical crap that an Illinois Democrat does, as far as corruption goes. He got into a spat with his father-in-law, Richard Mell (Chicago Alderman) over a landfill. Oddly, Blago was on the law and order side here with the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (IEPA). He and the IEPA, IIRC, were after this landfill for illegal dumping. However, Mell was a partner in the landfill’s ownership. Mell conspired with Mike Madigan to get rid of Blago. Given that, you can bet your ass that Obama was in it up to his ears.

[shadydave]

Yep. The key to understanding politics in Illinois is realizing that the 44th Ward Committeeman has more power than the Governor of Illinois.

Mell is also famous for voting for strict gun control while having one of the largest gun collections in the entire Midwest.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

It all boils down to clout and who has it. Richard Mell had it. Blago did not.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Everyone knew nigbama was a corrupt pos. His "community organizing" consisted of getting a grant, making the community worse, pocketing the money.

[Mother's Lament]

Stop it.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Honestly I think Blago knows a lot more about Obama than he's telling there. I didn't vote for Blago and I didn't like Blago. But watching Obama take him out was amazing.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

They all know more, including Slow Eddie (Ed Burke - convicted Alderman). They usually act like they’re in the Outfit and stick to omertà.

[Super Scary]

"Blagojevich"

Gesundheit!

[Fist of Etiquette]

And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.

The government should love that.

[Fist of Etiquette]

(The parts, if there are any, that aren't beholden to Big Medicine, that is.)

[Eeyore]

No relationship to freebird I take it?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Leftist must love it. Same result as post-birth abortion! Plus, all-natural and organic!

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Sam Harris continues to embrace the maddow. Blames Maga for Kirks death.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-sam-harris-blames-trump-cult-kirk-assassination

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

It would be halarious if a bunch of Maga killed a bunch of Marxists and said their rhetoric made me do it.

[Ajsloss]

Anyone heard from Nardz recently?

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

Come to think of it, no.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Not since he outed himself as a raging antisemitic Nazi shit.

[HorseConch]

In fairness to him, I always assumed he was one.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Was it a secret?

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

I dare say he was rather honest about that point.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Be fair to Sam. By definition liberals are emotionally disturbed and blame mean people for everything.

[Dillinger]

what's a Sam Harris?

[Mother's Lament]

A nutbag who railed against religion for dishonesty and then endorsed and advocated for dishonesty (no, really) because orangemanbad.

[Dillinger]

sounds stable

[Fist of Etiquette]

The "Department of Government Efficiency has disbanded with eight months left to its mandate..."

Thank Gaia, we were all about to starve to death.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Didnt even starve a single fed employee or NGO worker.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies...

Lol.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

They are just fucking with us now.

[Marshal]

Interesting. Yesterday Liz favorably cited MTG criticizing Reps for "not having a plan for Obamacare subsidies" which in context meant expiry is not an acceptable outcome.

Today Trump has a plan, but what do you suppose Reason will conclude? Are they going to admit hat they covertly support subsidies? Or will they criticize Trump both for letting them expire and not letting them expire on back to back days?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Libertarians for free government stuff?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

I disagree with what has leaked from his plan. It maintains subsidies for up to 700% of poverty, but does add minimal monthly/test payments for all Aca beneficiaries.

Aca needs to be destroyed. But his plan is still less bad than the dem plan. Which isnt saying much.

[Dillinger]

>>Yesterday Liz favorably cited MTG

glad I missed that nonsense.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal. (Torn between somewhat disliking cats and the fact that they're probably useful for rat control.)

More big city charm.

[Ajsloss]

NO CAT IS ILLEGAL!

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

Except rats deserve due process.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

From your mouth to Sammy Davis Jr's ears

[Fist of Etiquette]

President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon...

This could go all kinds of ways.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

Like sing a duet or do a dance video together?

[Quicktown Brix]

Here's a preview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHkhIjG0DKc

[Quicktown Brix]

Yeah, That happened and we all let it happen.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

You did that knowing I recently forgot about it.

[Super Scary]

Trump has a signature dance move. Does Maduro?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Looks like the DOGE obits are premature. One might say fake news.
DOGE Slams Reuters For Pushing "Fake News" On Shutdown Story
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/reuters-community-noted-doge-shutdown-story-top-official-says-outlet-spliced-my-comments
DOGE's official X account blasted the outlet operating under an Ireland-based X account as "fake news."
"As usual, this is fake news from @Reuters. President Trump was given a mandate by the American people to modernize the federal government and reduce waste, fraud and abuse," DOGE wrote on X.
DOGE added: "Just last week, DOGE terminated 78 wasteful contracts and saved taxpayers $335M. We'll be back in a few days with our regularly scheduled Friday update."
There is no evidence that DOGE has shutdown. There is no mention of it on the press secretary, Elon, Trump, the WH , DOGE or any other gov official account. Including DOGE official website. As of 9 hours ago DOGE was still posting about the work they are doing.
Shortly after Reuters ran its DOGE narrative, Kupor combatted the misinformation:
Good editing by @reuters - spliced my full comments across paragraphs 2/3 to create a grabbing headline. The truth is: DOGE may not have centralized leadership under @USDS . But, the principles of DOGE remain alive and well: de-regulation; eliminating fraud, waste and abuse; re-shaping the federal workforce; making efficiency a first-class citizen; etc. DOGE catalyzed these changes; the agencies along with @USOPM and @WHOMB will institutionalize them!

[Eeyore]

Reuters is in the same news tier as The Weekly World News.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Why do you insult the weekly world news?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Another illegal alien kills child in DUI

https://x.com/MediaRightNews1/status/1991216945866371396

Last week eight-year-old Mora Gerety was walking across a Boise street with her family when Elvin Ramos-Caballero, a Honduran illegal with a final removal order since 2016, allegedly struck her while impaired by alcohol. Mora died from her injuries. Ramos-Caballero is finally in ICE custody — nine years too late.

He never should have been here.
He never would have stayed here if Boise weren’t run by a mayor who brags about making our city a certified “Welcoming City” for illegal immigrants.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

The Libertarian Moment!

[HorseConch]

More due process. Since his due process is almost a decade old, didn't the statute of limitations on it end triggering a new due process? Isn't that how this works?

[Spiritus Mundi]

That didn't last long.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ukraine-tentatively-agrees-trump-backed-peace-plan-sending-oil-sliding

Poor Liz

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Really don't know why Liz continues to try covering this. I see probably four articles a day about this deal all with conflicting claims and speculation. She reads an article in the NYT and becomes an insider expert.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

The problem isnt Liz totally, im pretty sure Reason offices use Newsguard to limit what employees can read.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

That make sense. Can’t dilute that ideological purity.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Democrat Rep who had Chinese spy administering his fund-raising wants to be able to vote by phone...that seems like to allow his Chinese masters unfettered ability to manipulate elections.

https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1992270314743705720

SWALWELL: “I want us to be able to vote by phone … I want us to max out democracy.”

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

And by democracy he means fraud.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

They need to investigate him for treason. Of which he is clearly guilty.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Oops. Maybe don't say the quiet part quite so loudly.

https://pjnewsletter.com/dem-candidate-nashville/

With a special election approaching in Tennessee’s 7th Congressional District, Democratic candidate Aftyn Behn is under fire after a recording surfaced of her expressing hostility toward Nashville, the city she currently represents in the state legislature and would represent as part of the district if elected to Congress…

The newly circulated video shows Behn saying, “I hate the city, I hate the bachelorettes, I hate the pedal taverns, I hate country music, I hate all of the things that make Nashville an ‘it city’ to the rest of the country. I hate it.”

The hypocrisy is almost cartoonish. This is the same candidate who just released a campaign ad featuring herself posing with a mechanical bull while a country tune plays. She is perfectly happy to wrap herself in Nashville’s aesthetic to fool voters, all while harboring a deep-seated resentment for it. It is a profound act of deceit.

This disdain for her own community is not an isolated incident. It is part of a disturbing pattern of hostility toward the bedrock principles of our nation. Earlier this year, Behn bragged on social media about “bullying” ICE agents and state troopers who were enforcing federal immigration law. She proudly interfered with law enforcement, treating national security like a joke.

Her contempt extends to her entire state. According to the Daily Mail, Behn has branded Tennessee a “racist state” and called sororities “a staple of white supremacy.” This is the worldview of a far-left activist, not a public servant. She sees everything and everyone through the warped lens of a radical ideology.

Faced with the fallout, Behn released a bizarre video that only made matters worse. Instead of a sincere apology, she offered a series of unbelievable claims, insisting she couldn’t possibly hate Nashville because she has “cried in the Country Music Hall of Fame no less than 10 times.” She dismissed the outrage as the “Republican eye of Sauron” turning on her.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

Nothing like biting the hand that votes for you

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

She also said men can give birth.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

I swear she's being run just to distract from the Maine oyster farmer.

[I, Woodchipper]

"This is the worldview of a far-left activist, not a public servant."

Boy do I have some news for you.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'Scenes from New York: I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal.'

But is fresh cat Halal?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.'

So why mess with Darwin?

[MollyGodiva]

The "28-point peace plan" was literally translated from Russian. The entire document was from Moscow.

The only issue that really matters is Ukraine joining NATO. I needs to happen or the plan is not worth the paper it is written on.

[InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)]

1. And you know this how, Dr. Retard? Were you privy to the actual document?

2. No. Ukraine should never be allowed to join NATO. In fact, NATO outlived its usefulness in 1992 and should’ve been dissolved. It (and the UN) should be dissolved, and we should not be entangled in foreign alliances.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...we should not be entangled in foreign alliances."

Particularly ones with no sunset provisions, nor stated, specific goals.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

Not interested is sending our young men to defend Ukraine.
You go instead.

[Ajsloss]

Cool story, bro.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

Stfu retard.

[I, Woodchipper]

You are completely mad.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

I dont think even Rachel maddow is this retarded.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Even Rachel Maddow would call a Tony a retarded faggot.

[Idaho-Bob]

MollyGodiva -
About this Account -
Account based in Beijing.

https://x.com/MollyGodiva

[Mother's Lament]

Tony's a New York bathhouse aficionado.

[Michael Ejercito]

And they rejected it, just like how Arafat rejected that peace plan proposed by President Clinton and launched the Second Intifada.

Russian troops will be killed by IEDs for maybe years.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal."

Next up, bodega cat tax.

[Dillinger]

I want to buy your rock.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies"

It's a good thing Trump isn't going to run again.

This is NOT what I voted for, it is NOT why we went through a month-long shutdown.

Why make any effort to preserve the abomination that is Obamacare? Let it crush itself under its own weight as a 100% Democrat invention.

[I, Woodchipper]

The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies

Fucking establishment replublicans. "Let's fix Obamacare by.. extending Obamacare." Absolute garbage party. The only thing worse is Democrats.

[Dillinger]

I'm all in for another schumer schutdown

[Dillinger]

hey I haven't been around for a couple days did anyone do a piece on how Elon showed all that Bannon / Carlson / Fuentes support is coming from Pakistan?

so we're clear I am in Texas lol.

[I, Woodchipper]

The best one was that the Dept of Homeland Security account was created from Israel. Absolute banger.

[Dillinger]

is there a word for mind-boggling and we all totally knew it the whole time?

[I, Woodchipper]

Surely the germans have a word for that.

[Dillinger]

>>President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon

horse head and Havana nights, or fishes?

[Dillinger]

>>Wow, two socialists in one month?

maybe over the Thanksgiving break you can learn what a socialist is and what a mandami is

[Dillinger]

>>"I might be the only American on X," writes River Page.

oh I see. Elon unmasks half the planet & you let someone else do your job thumb emoji

[JFree]

The plan keeps shifting.

Unfortunately - the consistent part of the 'plan' is the US pretending to play mediator in the middle. That is the worst sort of hubris - the US pretending that Russia is ok with Ukraine agreeing to have the US as a mediator between Ukraine and Russia. Talk about missing the point.

[Michael Ejercito]

More Russian soldiers will come home in body bags.

The IED-dodging phase ends when the IED deployers say so.

[Dillinger]

>>somewhat disliking cats

cats are awesome.