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Reason Roundup

The Ukraine-Russia Deal That Wasn't

Plus: DOGE takes new form, inside a birth cult, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 11.25.2025 9:30 AM

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Ever-shifting stipulations: While Ukrainian and American delegations made headway in Geneva, Switzerland, hammering out a peace deal with Russia to end Vladimir Putin's bombardment of Ukraine by the Thanksgiving deadline set by President Donald Trump, Russia bombed the crap out of Kyiv.

The plan keeps shifting. What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points; the Thanksgiving deadline, which was always overly ambitious, has been scrapped. The most important things to hammer out—limits on how large the Ukrainian military may be in the future, a ban on NATO troops inside Ukraine, where new territorial boundaries might be drawn—haven't really been focused on at this stage. But it seems Trump's top guys—Secretary of State Marco Rubio, special envoy Steve Witkoff, and oddly gifted diplomat slash son-in-law Jared Kushner—"believed that the combination of Ukraine's unfolding corruption scandal and Russia's incremental battlefield gains put new pressure on [Ukraine] to cut a deal," per The New York Times. They ended up meeting, quite a few times, with Russian diplomats, and the deal that ultimately came together looked a lot more favorable to Russia than Ukraine.

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"By any measure, the administration's rollout of the new plan was maladroit at best," argues The New York Times. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio tried to downplay the planniness of the plan, calling it merely "a list of potential ideas" for how to broker peace.

The deal would have been one with "no punishment for Russia," per NPR's Eleanor Beardsley. "Russia would be welcomed back into the international fold, sanctions lifted, and there's a joint Russian-American Arctic exploration deal in this plan, so possible big business opportunities, rare earth minerals and all that." Ukraine, on the other hand, would have been expected to give up territory in the Donbas, and be limited from aspirations of ever joining NATO.

Now, Trump is trying to back Volodymyr Zelenskyy into a bit of a corner, saying if he refuses negotiations he'll be free "to fight his little heart out."

It might sorta be working: "Today our delegation returned from Geneva after negotiations with the American side and European partners," wrote Zelenskyy on X. "Now the list of necessary steps to end the war can become doable. As of now, after Geneva, there are fewer points—no longer 28—and many of the right elements have been taken into account in this framework." If you say so, sir.


Scenes from New York: I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal. (Torn between somewhat disliking cats and the fact that they're probably useful for rat control.)


QUICK HITS

  • "Unlike home birth—birth at home with a midwife in attendance—freebirth means giving birth without any medical support," report Sirin Kale and Lucy Osborne for The Guardian. "FBS promotes a version widely seen as extreme, even among freebirth advocates: it is anti-ultrasound, which it falsely claims harms babies, downplays serious medical conditions and promotes wild pregnancy, meaning pregnancy without any prenatal care." Free Birth Society "is not, by any conventional definition, a cult. But former FBS members often use the language of high-control groups to describe the hold they say they felt the organization had over them, leading them to behave in ways they now find hard to understand." And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.
  • The "Department of Government Efficiency has disbanded with eight months left to its mandate, ending an initiative launched with fanfare as a symbol of Trump's pledge to slash the government's size but which critics say delivered few measurable savings," reports Reuters. "'That doesn't exist,' Office of Personnel Management Director Scott Kupor told Reuters earlier this month when asked about DOGE's status.…The OPM, the federal government's human resources office, has since taken over many of DOGE's functions, according to Kupor." And "at least two prominent DOGE employees are now involved with the National Design Studio, a new body created through an executive order signed by Trump in August. That body is headed by Joe Gebbia, co-founder of Airbnb, and Trump's order directed him to beautify government websites."
  • "The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies due to expire at the end of next month and new limits on eligibility, according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the unannounced plans," reports Politico. 
  • "I might be the only American on X," writes River Page.
  • President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon, reports Axios. (Wow, two socialists in one month? He's on a roll.)

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points...

    Soon down to one single point: A massive Trump tower/wall separating the lands.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      With Casinos and dancing girls!

      Actually be a great idea, given the people who rule on either side of the border. A place where Ukrainian and Russian can set aside their differences and spend an evening united in debauchery.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        So... The way the centari achieved peace on their home world?

        1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

          Better than how they achieved peace with the Narn in season 2.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        But high class. Like The Continental from John Wick.

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Nobody needs 28 points of peace.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "The plan keeps shifting. What was once a 28-point peace plan has now been shrunken to just 20 points"

      WHAT IS NEGOTIATION, LIZ?

      In Reason's world you both don't come to the table with a wish list and then whittle it down to what each side can live with.

      Instead you draw a line in the sand and if they don't acquiesce to all your demands then it's Shock and Awe time.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        I think you might be reading too much into what can be interpreted as merely an observation and not a complaint. Liz, at least (not so sure about some others at Reason), seems to be fairly thoughtful and open minded about these things. This is, after all, just a "here's what's in the news today" blog, not an in-depth analysis.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          I guarantee you'll see Boehm, Slade and Lancaster using that narrative before the week is up.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            That would not surprise me much.

  2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Despite sullum, avg white retard, sarc and others cheering for comey yesterday, turns out he isnt out of the woods yet.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3288

    Whenever an indictment or information charging a felony is dismissed for any reason after the period prescribed by the applicable statute of limitations has expired, a new indictment may be returned in the appropriate jurisdiction within six calendar months of the date of the dismissal of the indictment or information, or, in the event of an appeal, within 60 days of the date the dismissal of the indictment or information becomes final, or, if no regular grand jury is in session in the appropriate jurisdiction when the indictment or information is dismissed, within six calendar months of the date when the next regular grand jury is convened

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      He will skate.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Hoping it forces the senate to end the blue slip policy that led to all this shit. Even that would be a win.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      The other question in all this is of course the constitutional question. Nowhere in the constitution does it grant power of article 3 to appoint article 2 officers. Yet the 1986 law that allows for it does. This has never been challenged at scotus. This sets up a scenario where article 3 can favor their own article 2 prosecutors, in violation of a separation of powers.

      We have also seen scotus strike down article 1 appointments and protections this year.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Seems like an obvious conflict of interest. Maybe Trump is setting up the challenge here.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    "By any measure, the administration's rollout of the new plan was maladroit at best," argues The New York Times.

    Everyone loves Trump's sausages until they see what's being stuffed into the casing.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Babies and puppies?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      But his steak is the chef's kiss or so people are saying.

    3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Would the NYTimes say anything positive, ever?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Yes. About a communist or socialist or terrorist.

  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Searches for epstein have catered since the files were released. Almost like the outrage was all performative.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-did-democrats-suddenly-go-quiet-epstein-files

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Almost...you said almost

      I'm betting the Molly G's, Sarcs, Jeffs, etc are not even Americans. Similar to X trolls. Selling "outrage" to get traffic up.

      Molly for sure.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        I fully expect the ones you mentioned are the reason those accounts exist, to trick retards.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          >>to trick retards.

          literally zero other reason Nick Fuentes has eyes.

      2. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

        "Selling "outrage" to get traffic up."

        So it's a profitable psyop to boot. Time to stop feeding the trolls.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          "Selling Outrage" should be megyn's media company name

      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Isn’t Pedo Jeffy actually Canadian?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          No. Apparently Jeffy is from Kansas City.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            I seem to remember something about Toronto years ago, but that could have been someone else.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Someone posted a series of comments from a “chemjeff” posting in a local Kansas City Reddit and getting his ass handed to him. The posting style was eerily similar.

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

                2 things are certain:

                1: chemjeff lives in “a large urban area”.
                2: he frequently “use(s) mass transit.”

                Or he’s just a hypocrite who trivializes an aversion to these things by people he doesn’t like as “culture war issues.”

                1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

                  When he manages to move off the sofa, it is “mass transit”.

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    The gravity of this comment is immense.

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                      Big, if true.

                    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                      I’ll bet his sweat infused sofa reeks like a bouquet of horse penises.

              2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                His ass handed to him? That’s an undertaking not to be taken lightly. Was a forklift involved?

            2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              It was alleged by several people here some years ago that Jeffy was a Canadian originally known as Cytotoxic.

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      The files have not been released, only the law that requires them to be released.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Then get your Democrat activist judges out of the fucking way, Dr. Retard.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Stfu commie scum, and get in the helicopter.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Did you think up that lame ass excuse for an insult all by yourself, commitard?

            1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

              What insult? I was stating an objective fact.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Cool story, bro. Think of that one yourself?

              2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                Commie retard doesn’t know what objective means.

              3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                So…… you’ve been outed as a ChiCom dupe. Your best bet is to come clean, rat out your fellow Marxist traitors, and throw yourself on the mercy of the DoJ. You even might be allowed to live…….. in a SuperMax facility, for the rest of your treasonous life.

          3. Ajsloss   2 months ago

            Cool story, bro.

          4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Kill yourself.

            1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

              Broken-record-playing Demonic Death-Worshitter Worshits Death... More news at 6:66!!!

              Cuntsorevaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant, serpent, and slurp-pants (pants-slurper) of the Evil One?

              EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…

              He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
              Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
              Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
              His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
              https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
              Loves death and the dying moans,
              Then he likes to munch their bones!
              He’s truly, completely a necrophiliac,
              His brain, squirming toad-like, is REALY, really whack!
              Has no thoughts that help the people,
              He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
              On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
              Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
              Kool-Aid man, please listen,
              You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
              Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
              The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!

              A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
              https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/

              Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
              If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
              Who would feed you? Whose tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
              You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!

              Signed, Yours Truly, Heaven-on-Earth-Based Skeptic of Servants, Serpents, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Lol!

        You should email the judges still working to not release them. All in blue districts.

    3. Moonrocks   2 months ago

      This was entirely predictable based solely on how much dirt on Trump vs. how much dirt on Democrats they're likely to contain.

  5. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    For anyone following the corporate earnings season over the last month, a clear theme has emerged from the giants of European and Asian industry: President Trump’s tariff regime is starting to significantly reduce their profits. But hold on. Weren’t we told that tariffs would simply be passed straight on to American consumers in the form of higher prices? That they were a tax on ordinary working people? Instead, it is already becoming clear that at least some of the costs are being paid by foreign conglomerates and even by foreign governments.

    https://www.commonplace.org/p/matthew-lynn-tariffs-are-a-taxjust

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      The usual suspects arriving in 3, 2, 1...

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        The ones who raged at the BBB for not raising income taxes?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Like Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie and Elon?

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            two one-trick ponies, a dinosaur and a billionaire walk into a bar ...

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              They really should look where they’re walking next time and go around the bar.

            2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Why the long faces?

              1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

                John Kerry and AOC weren't there.

                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                  Is AOC starring in a gender swapped woke version of Mr. Ed?

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      The usual suspects arriving in 3, 2, 1...
      0

      a clear theme has emerged from the giants of European and Asian industry: President Trump’s tariff regime is starting to significantly reduce their profits...it is already becoming clear that at least some of the costs are being paid by foreign conglomerates and even by foreign governments.

      What a weak and flawed conclusion. All this shows is the damage tariffs do to markets.

      Here they site research, consistent with other recent studies, showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

      That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs. Combined with other research it's becoming clear that tariffs is reducing trade, growth and consumption world-wide exactly as predicted. Those reduced profits are symptomatic of the reduction in world manufacturing due to the disruption of markets.

      Even the research sited for this article states:

      most of the pass-through is gradual rather than discrete. After the tariffs were implemented, prices followed a new, persistent upward trajectory, marking a clear break from
      pre-tariff trends. This pattern likely reflects the uncertainty surrounding the level and duration of the tariffs that retailers would ultimately face. In such an environment, firms adjust prices cautiously and incrementally, updating them as new information becomes available rather than implementing large, once-and-for-all increases. As a result, tariff shocks are more likely to generate a sustained period of upward pressure on prices—prolonging inflation dynamics—rather than producing an immediate, one-time shift in the price level....domestic goods were also affected, exhibiting a milder but sustained increase in prices since March

      What this means is that US importers/distributors and retailers are absorbing most of the remainder of the tariffs. That is AMERICANS.

      This is further supported by other research:

      US firms were absorbing most of the tariff burden through compressed spreads between the cost of imported goods paid by the firms and the selling prices they received.

      https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/who-paying-trumps-tariffs-so-far-its-us-businesses

      Instead, however, import prices are essentially close to where they would have been expected pre-2025. Point estimates are, if anything, higher not lower year-to-date….This outcome is exactly the opposite of what we would expect if foreigner producers were absorbing some of the tariff costs.

      https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/short-run-effects-2025-tariffs-so-far

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Keep moving the ball under the cups, conman.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Those ripples are coming any day now.

          He even raged against the 2.3 estimate for next year from the atl fed.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Nope

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        "Cited", you mean the research that is "cited".

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Yes. Thanks for the correction.

      3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        >What a weak and flawed conclusion. All this shows is the damage tariffs do to markets.

        I see you got up early to move the goalposts.

        We never talked about 'the damage' tariffs do to markets. We knew they would do 'damage' - that was the *point* of the tariffs. The point of contention is that you claimed they *would only damage Americans*. Remember the whole 'tariffs are a tax on Americans' line you've been pusing?

        *I* told you about tax incidence and you ignored it. You insisted only Americans would pay the tax because you assumed that American consumers are in the weakest position and would just have to take it.

        >showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

        Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners.

        >That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs.

        Well, yes, yes it does. Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

        >Combined with other research it's becoming clear that tariffs is reducing trade, growth and consumption world-wide exactly as predicted.

        This part of the paragraph has nothing to do with the previous part of the paragraph. It is a non-sequitur.

        1. That the global market is reducing trade, etc, doesn't change who is paying what in the tariffs. You can cite it as evidence of further 'damage' but that is a separate thing.

        2. The 'damage' is the US rewiring the global economy with the US in a more self-sufficient mode. The reason all those foreign companies are suffering is, yes, because American - the majority of nearly every country's export market - are buying less from them.

        You call it 'damage' but its just a modification of the global order, no different than the modification done to the prior order to get where we were in 2024.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Thank you for doing this. I'm tired of Mike's retarded insistence on always being wrong.

          Their continued belief in a free market defined as disadvantaged to america and advantaged to foreign countries is maddening.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And imports are only down 5%, exports up 1%, while deficits in trade drop. This is the damage Mike is crying about.

            https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/Press-Release/current_press_release/ft900.pdf

            He also cries that Americans are gaining jobs this year over immigrants, reducing domestic welfare.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Crying? I'm making reasoned arguments.

              You're projecting.

              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                You’re cherrypicking data to attack Trump because you’re a far left globalist who doesn’t believe in America’s sovereignty (by your own admission) . You obviously don’t have our constitutional republic’s interests at heart.

                Are you a ChiCom dupe too, like Tony and Jeffy?

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  And now the MAGA word of the day:

                  cherry picking- the act of using data rather than the government approved narrative.

                  1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                    No, you’re taking numbers out of context in an effort to mislead readers. So you can sell the approved DNC narrative.

                    You’re very fortunate that we take the time to straighten you out here. Feel free to thank us.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          The point of contention is that you claimed they *would only damage Americans*.

          This is your assumption. I NEVER said ONLY Americans would pay. I may have said Americans would pay or even American will pay most of the tariffs. And studies are showing this to be the case.

          Remember the whole 'tariffs are a tax on Americans' line you've been pusing?

          They are a tax, but this is a non sequitur about what percentage is paid by Americans.

          you assumed that American consumers are in the weakest position and would just have to take it.

          And they are.

          Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners....Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

          You can't be this simple. You should really read the articles. It says 20% is paid by American consumers. Americans aren't only consumers. They are importers, manufacturers businesses. That's who's paying most of the tariffs for now. Multiple studies show this. None so far indicate otherwise. That's how reason and logic work.

          This part of the paragraph has nothing to do with the previous part of the paragraph. It is a non-sequitur.

          You really don't see the connection? It is an alternate explanation of why foreign companies may have reduced profits.

          The 'damage' is the US rewiring the global economy with the US in a more self-sufficient mode. The reason all those foreign companies are suffering is, yes, because American - the majority of nearly every country's export market - are buying less from them....You call it 'damage' but its just a modification of the global order, no different than the modification done to the prior order to get where we were in 2024.

          Semantics. And the benefits you suggest here have yet to materialize. So far only losses have been observed.

          1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

            No bro, the argument was never about what would happen to foreigners.

            We made it clear we don't care.

            You tried to focus on *AMERICANS PAYING TARIFFS*. We told you that tariffs fall on owners, employees, and customers. Americans are the customers, foreigners are the owners and employees - and we don't care what happens to them.

        3. Zeb   2 months ago

          >showing about a 20% pass through of tariffs to US consumers.

          Yes, like I said. Its called 'tax incidence'. And it means 80% is being paid by foreigners.

          >That does not mean foreign manufacturers are paying 80% of the tariffs.

          Well, yes, yes it does. Because 100% of the tariffs are being paid, 20% by Americans, thus foreign producers must be footing the other 80%. That's just how math works.

          So the only things that exist are American consumers and foreign manufacturers? There are other possibilities, such as American companies absorbing part of the cost and not passing it all on to consumers.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Which companies?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Dewey, Cheatam, and Howe, LLC.

            2. Zeb   2 months ago

              Doesn't matter, I'm speaking in the abstract about the claim that "that's how math works".

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Why speak in the abstract to counter the actual data?

                This is a glaring problem in libertarian circles. Dismiss reality for mental models.

                1. Zeb   2 months ago

                  I'm making no comment on the actual data or what it shows. Just picking on the logic used in the comment I responded to. At this point I'm agnostic on whether the tariffs will end up doing more good than harm. Yes, part of that is because my prior assumptions are against it for various reasons. But this is a case where I hope I'm wrong because this is what's happening and I want things to turn out well. I'll get no pleasure from being able to say "told you so" if it turns out to have been a bad policy decision that leads to bad economic outcomes.

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            You'd see it in domestic profits no? Do you listen to the quarterly financial outlays? Because none are reporting it.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Top Companies Hit by Tariffs
              Apple
              John Deere
              General Motors
              Stellantis
              Polaris Inc.
              Caterpillar
              Toyota
              Hyundai
              Jaguar Land Rover
              Walmart
              Nike
              Adidas
              Macy’s
              Procter & Gamble
              Hershey
              Tapestry
              Gap Inc

              Apple lost $800M in one quarter, GM $1.1B in Q2, Toyota $3B in a quarter, Caterpillar up to $1.5B, and P&G expects $1B annually.

              https://crossdockinsights.com/p/top-companies-hit-by-tariffs

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                Apple is up 13.5% ytd.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  How much would they have been up without tariffs?

                  Hits from tariffs continue, Apple to pay $1.4 billion more in 2025 holiday quarter

                  Speaking during Apple's latest earnings call, Tim Cook revealed that in the last quarter, tariffs have hit Apple to the tune of $1.1 billion — and it will be another $1.4 billion in the holiday quarter.

                  1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                    That’s against $94 billion in earnings. So that’s at most 1.17%. And 3rd quarter earnings are up 10% year over year. Thanks to Trump.

                    Now apologize for trying to falsely malign our president, and skulk away in disgrace.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Wow

                    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                      I know, it’s impressive. Too bad you’re limited to propagandist democrat thinking.

          3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

            American companies *are customers* of the foreign companies.

            So yes, in this there are American customers and foreign sellers.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              US companies are not considered in CPI and thus also not included in the 20% pass through.

      4. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        This blog post explores...

        Yeah, that's where I quit.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          That's too bad, but I appreciate that you followed the link and read that far.

      5. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        What are you on about? Maybe keep your creative thinking to yourself until it can be understood?

        On products like raw Aluminum there is approximately 12% increase in costs for imported aluminum which has translated into aluminum going up. But the price of aluminum has gone up more than that due to transportation and market prices increasing.

        But for made products as noted would happen and has obviously happened the sellers of the products being imported have eaten the tariffs.

        Why you ask, or how could they?

        Because they are competing directly against US made products. They can't raise prices because then they will no longer be competitive with the US made products. So they lose a little profit while still maintaining profit and do not lose market share.

        Do not forget these sellers make higher profits off the foreign made products than the US made competing product manufacturers. This is why prices have not gone up. Get it?

        The only real increases seen due to tariffs are where the products are not made or grown in the US so they must be imported to be available for sale in the US. A very small amount of products like cocoa, bananas, coffee etc. And Trump has removed the tariffs on these products to stop them from inflating. Get it?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Maybe keep your creative thinking to yourself until it can be understood?

          So you're saying you don't understand? How do you know that's a me problem and not a you problem? I showed my notes.

          But the price of aluminum has gone up more than that due to transportation and market prices increasing.

          So? If prices are going up, adding more upward pressure makes no difference? Because there are numerous studies showing tariffs increased prices. Merely suggesting other causes doesn't negate that research.

          the sellers of the products being imported have eaten the tariffs.

          Yes, the AMERICAN sellers of the products have SO FAR eaten all but 20% of the tariffs. See the articles above or just Google it.

          Do not forget these sellers make higher profits off the foreign made products than the US made competing product manufacturers. [citation?] This is why prices have not gone up.

          This is not supported by the studies on the 2025 tariffs, which show prices have gone up.

          The only real increases seen due to tariffs are where the products are not made or grown in the US so they must be imported to be available for sale in the US.

          Again, this is not supported by research which shows prices increasing across the board.

          The only real increases seen due to tariffs are where the products are not made or grown in the US so they must be imported to be available for sale in the US...And Trump has removed the tariffs on these products to stop them from inflating.

          Trump removed tariffs on a few specific agricultural items from a few specific countries which only accounts for a small percentage of imports. And why did Trump cut beef tariffs? We produce beef in the US.

          1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

            Yes, you showed your notes. That is how we know you do not understand.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              And this statement is how we know you don't understand:

              We told you that tariffs fall on owners, employees, and customers. Americans are the customers, foreigners are the owners and employees

  6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    The seditious 6 video is completely backfiring.


    RNC Research

    @RNCResearch
    CBS: "How do you respond to the allegations...from your colleagues, fellow veterans that what you put out there is weakening and corrosive?"

    CROW: "They know better. We were very clear in the video that what we are talking about is unlawful orders."

    CBS: "Specifically what?'

    CROW: "Send troops into polling stations, kill terrorists' families."

    CBS: "He hasn't done those things..."

    https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1992655376496357601

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Are they tipping their hand as to what they’ll do should they ever be in a position of power again?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Yes. 100% projection.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          The leap from "send troops into polilng stations" (hasn't been done) to "kill terrorists' families" (done by Barry-O) is a rather overt/deliberate reshaping/framing of the Overton Window.

          Especially, once again, considering the military's role in "modern warfare" and The Little Rock Nine, Kent State, Battle of Blair Mountain, etc.

    2. HorseConch   2 months ago

      Those are just inconvenient truths. ManBearPig knows all about that.

    3. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      The video had it's intended effect. It told service members that the Ds have their back if they obey their oath.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...the Ds have their back..."

        You're a real laugh-riot, slimy pile of lying lefty shit.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        You’re right on the that it had its intended effect; however, you’re dead wrong about that second sentence. Their effect was to try to create disunity and mutiny in our armed services. And no, the Democrats will never have their backs.

        1. HorseConch   2 months ago

          Service members should trust the Ds about as far as they can throw JB Pritzker.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            True. However, I wouldn’t mind throwing JB Pritzker from a trebuchet.

            1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

              You're gonna need a bigger trebuchet.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                quadbuchet ... maybe quintbuchet this time

              2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Bassechet?

      3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        No. It was democrats, ex IC, pushing a soft coup. Now you literally have democrats threatening any troops and lawyers who act on the law like Ruben Gallego and schiff.

        Youre a leftist authoritarian doc retard.

      4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        The actual effect is that they declared themselves to be seditionists and traitors. Like you are, Tony.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          This is the beauty of social media. They HAVE to say the quiet part out loud, for all the world to know.

          We know who is seditious, murderous, pedo, and flat-out mentally unstable.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Much of the left must be rounded up and subjected to trial by tribunal. No democrats, or anyone affiliated (RINOs) allowed to be a judge. Execute the guilty ones.

            No Marxist has a right to exist.

      5. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "It told service members that the Ds have their back if they obey their oath."

        Violating your oath for DNC political posturing is not keeping your oath no matter how you try and frame it, clowntits.

      6. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Yet the oath keepers were called evil for not shooting on us citizes

      7. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

        the Ds have their back

        Just as Grima had Theoden's.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Send troops into polling stations, kill terrorists' families."

      "Building concentration camps, gassing people,'
      There's a LOT he hasn't done.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Dems also tried pulling the Neville Chamberlain trope yesterday.

      2. Super Scary   2 months ago

        I'd be interested to see through the eyes of the average TDS victim, at least for a short time. Do they see a mustache and horns on Trump?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          He's like the gnostic demiurge for them. An evil creator god who binds men to mortal bodies. He can do anything and it's always malevolent.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            That fits well. Mind if I borrow that one?

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I don't. And my TDS is stage 4.

          I do see odd orange skin and terrible brittle looking hair though.

  7. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    …beautify government websites

    LOL

  8. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    If they only made rats illegal then they would not need an exception for the illegal cats.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Could do like Alberta. Course it means having poison dumped on the populous for a time and then giving up your property rights for government inspections.

      https://www.alberta.ca/albertas-rat-control-program#:~:text=Alberta's%20rat%2Dfree%20status%20means,eradicated%20through%20proven%20control%20methods.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Most of the time they're tipping over haybales near the Saskatchewan and Montana borders and blasting them with shotguns. They don't have to worry about the BC border as the Rockies create an impenetrable barrier.

        The "inspections" are almost always done by the property owners who call control the second they spot a rat. Farmers don't want rats and the rat control is free.

        The biggest assist is winter temps. Southern Alberta can often get to 105 in the summer but down to -45 in the winter. That 150 degree swing really hampers natural movement.

        As for northern Alberta, the towns are too far apart and the boreal forest too full of things that eat rats for them to make it unless they hitch a ride on something.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      I picture AI driven robot cats programmed to run around the city killing all small mamals.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        My barn cats bring us all manner of small mammals, voles, mice, rats, moles, rabbits, squirrels, and also lizards (which I know are not mammals) ... but they don't always kill them first. So I get to have that fun.

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          I was watching the other day a cat video of cats adding ingredients to soup/chili being cooked on the stove.

          Tiny lizards make chili more authentically Taxan.

      2. Stuck in California   2 months ago

        https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xSaL8yxFGPI/maxresdefault.jpg

  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Another ICE abuse hoax went viral again. This time regarding a "restaurant worker in a headlock." Illegal ran into the restaurant trying to evade ICE. Was being arrested for statutory rape of a minor.

    https://x.com/DougHenwood/status/1991627170654089237

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      At this point I am opposed to ice deportations.
      Kill the illegals on the spot, dump the corpse in mexico

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        The Soylent Corporation would like a word.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Only allowed to shoot citizens. Ask sarcjeff.

        1. HorseConch   2 months ago

          Only if they trespass. Not if they resist arrest or assault officers. What is the official stance on shooting people that put bears in trunks?

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Self defense.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        Kill the illegals on the spot, dump the corpse in mexico

        And of course this comment won't receive any significant pushback either, combined with damikesc's comment yesterday advocating for mass slaughter of The Left.

        If you don't want to be called fascists, then stop advocating for Final Solutions.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Does that include the Final Solution you impose on a barrel of Ben and Jerry’s?

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            “A” barrel? Fatfuck is working on complete ice cream barrel genocide.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          dEhUmanNiZZinG LaNguaGe!!

        3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Words are violence.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            But Charlie Kirk had it coming,

          2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            For the (D)'s your words are violence and their violence is words.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal.

    In a city run by rats? Who would have thought.

  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Blagojevich is talking about all of Obamas corrupt acts as a senator.

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/24/blagojevich-makes-explosive-claims-about-the-obamas-n4946353

    1. shadydave   2 months ago

      He has the receipts on this. It won't matter. If you honestly think you can get to where Obama was in Chicago politics and not be hopelessly corrupt...

      It's like the old R. Budd Dwyer situation: I mean sure the guy was corrupt, but all the other corrupt people decided to lay everything at his feet so they all could get off scot free.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        That's why I say Hey man, nice shot.

        1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

          What a good shot, man.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      This should be fun. Blago was doing the typical crap that an Illinois Democrat does, as far as corruption goes. He got into a spat with his father-in-law, Richard Mell (Chicago Alderman) over a landfill. Oddly, Blago was on the law and order side here with the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (IEPA). He and the IEPA, IIRC, were after this landfill for illegal dumping. However, Mell was a partner in the landfill’s ownership. Mell conspired with Mike Madigan to get rid of Blago. Given that, you can bet your ass that Obama was in it up to his ears.

      1. shadydave   2 months ago

        Yep. The key to understanding politics in Illinois is realizing that the 44th Ward Committeeman has more power than the Governor of Illinois.

        Mell is also famous for voting for strict gun control while having one of the largest gun collections in the entire Midwest.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          It all boils down to clout and who has it. Richard Mell had it. Blago did not.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Everyone knew nigbama was a corrupt pos. His "community organizing" consisted of getting a grant, making the community worse, pocketing the money.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Stop it.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          I grew up in one of the communities he organized. The fag is a cancer. There is no word that he can be called that can properly show how evil he is.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            And flirting with calling him "nigger" neither shows how evil he is, nor helps convince anyone of that fact, so stop it.

            1. rbike   2 months ago

              Hey, do you really know the shade of Kucklands skin?

              He may have the shade that allows the use of some words.

        2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          I find "nigbama" offensive ass well! Do You PervFectly find "NecroMamma" offensive? If so, Ye might want to Pervfectly cuntsider STOPPING with this calling-for-suicides thing!

          Apologize to me, and I will stop calling You out for this shit... Can You DO it? Unambiguously? W/O this "I am SOOOO sorry that you were offended" kind of crap, which is WAAAAY to common? Like, a REAL apology? Like, "calling for suicides is SNOT a Christian thing to do, and I admit shit, and I have fallen short?"

          PervFected people are WAAAAY too common. See ...

          Scumby for example can’t even bring shitself to condemn the mob chanting “Hang Mike Pence”! See https://reason.com/2025/11/24/brickbat-we-are-here-to-help-2/ comments. . .

          While we are at it, can Pervfected YOU condemn that pro-political-violence chanting shit? I know that You Pervfectly deny the FACT that Dear Orange Caligula blessed the crowds for chanting that, butt can YOU actually say that that was a BAD thing for the mob to chant?

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Honestly I think Blago knows a lot more about Obama than he's telling there. I didn't vote for Blago and I didn't like Blago. But watching Obama take him out was amazing.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        They all know more, including Slow Eddie (Ed Burke - convicted Alderman). They usually act like they’re in the Outfit and stick to omertà.

    5. Super Scary   2 months ago

      "Blagojevich"

      Gesundheit!

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.

    The government should love that.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      (The parts, if there are any, that aren't beholden to Big Medicine, that is.)

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      No relationship to freebird I take it?

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Leftist must love it. Same result as post-birth abortion! Plus, all-natural and organic!

  13. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Sam Harris continues to embrace the maddow. Blames Maga for Kirks death.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-sam-harris-blames-trump-cult-kirk-assassination

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      It would be halarious if a bunch of Maga killed a bunch of Marxists and said their rhetoric made me do it.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        Anyone heard from Nardz recently?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Come to think of it, no.

          1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

            Nadless Nardless the Nasty NAZI swill SNOT be missed! Certainly snot by me!!! Good riddance!!! GREAT riddance!!!

            (I paid shit a pittance for shit's riddance, and I would be glad to do the same for MANY other Nasty NAZIs around here!)

            Actually, yes, I have heard from Nadless Nardless the Nasty NAZI lately, in the form of the Evil One's voices and vices, urging me to promote SUICIDE like SOME of the evil posters here do!!! Maybe Nadless Nardless the Nasty NAZI has joined shit's hero, the Evil One, on the other side, in the Beyond the Beyond. I assure you-all steadfastly and immovably, Nadless Nardless the Nasty NAZI and shit's boss, the Evil One, are utterly wasting their time talking to me, because I do have their names and numbers, and I will oppose them until the end of time!!! So help me God AND Government Almighty BOTH!!!

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Not since he outed himself as a raging antisemitic Nazi shit.

          1. HorseConch   2 months ago

            In fairness to him, I always assumed he was one.

          2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            Was it a secret?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              I dare say he was rather honest about that point.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                As soon as I called him on it, he scurried off. Could be coincidence.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Be fair to Sam. By definition liberals are emotionally disturbed and blame mean people for everything.

    3. Dillinger   2 months ago

      what's a Sam Harris?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        A nutbag who railed against religion for dishonesty and then endorsed and advocated for dishonesty (no, really) because orangemanbad.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          sounds stable

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            About as stable as a two-legged table.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Good call.

        3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Not just dishonesty, but overlooking a cooler full of dead babies.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Oops, not a cooler full, a basement full.

            https://m.youtube.com/shorts/BkAQZdlvgOM

            1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              Just insane. I wonder if 20 years from now when Trump has died of old age and the temperature has cooled in he'll look back and say "Wow! I went batshit crazy back then".

        4. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

          "and advocated for dishonesty (no, really) because orangemanbad."

          Ya, he completely nuked all of the credibility he had left as a 'public intellectual' with revealing statement.

          Along the lines of its fine to obfuscate the truth or directly lie to the public and cover up any democrat wrongdoing, in service of not having trump get elected, because Trump is the equivalent of "a meteor headed toward earth and the end of democracy" despite the objective evidence we had that he had a pretty great 4 years as prez (until COVID), that didnt end the US, or democracy as he was then voted out.

          Just such an out and open "I dont care what lies we have to tell the public so long as the democrats win", that got him essentially laughed out of the conversation of serious debaters.

          Rarely do you get such a mask off moment that is as damaging to one's reputation. Would be like catching Mr Rogers on a hot mic going "I fucking hate kids and wish they would all die"

    4. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      "Sam Harris continues to embrace the maddow. Blames Maga for Kirks death."

      JesseBahnFarter-Fuhrer... Have Ye ever Pervfectly cuntsidered that there might be a wee tad of truth to that? The Uber-Leader, Orange Caligula Shitself, BLESSED political violence in the form of "Hang Mike Pence" and "Execute General Milley", and more!!! If MAGA does SNOT adore and worshit political violence, and does SNOT want to see MORE of shit, then MAGA might want to... Drum roll please, wait for it now... BE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THE REST OF US MERE PEONS!!!

      The endless cycle of violence is VILE, and will ONLY be stopped by morally-ethically GOOD PEOPLE providing GOOD EXAMPLES by, for example, absorbing a blow and SNOT striking back! Have Ye EVER seen Orange Caligula doing that?

      Twat is SOOOO hard about this shit?!?!?

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The "Department of Government Efficiency has disbanded with eight months left to its mandate..."

    Thank Gaia, we were all about to starve to death.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Didnt even starve a single fed employee or NGO worker.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies...

    Lol.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      They are just fucking with us now.

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      Interesting. Yesterday Liz favorably cited MTG criticizing Reps for "not having a plan for Obamacare subsidies" which in context meant expiry is not an acceptable outcome.

      Today Trump has a plan, but what do you suppose Reason will conclude? Are they going to admit hat they covertly support subsidies? Or will they criticize Trump both for letting them expire and not letting them expire on back to back days?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Libertarians for free government stuff?

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        I disagree with what has leaked from his plan. It maintains subsidies for up to 700% of poverty, but does add minimal monthly/test payments for all Aca beneficiaries.

        Aca needs to be destroyed. But his plan is still less bad than the dem plan. Which isnt saying much.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          If we get rid of the democrats all manner of great thingsthings become possible.

      3. Dillinger   2 months ago

        >>Yesterday Liz favorably cited MTG

        glad I missed that nonsense.

      4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        A plan could be getting rid of all of the federal mandates, regs and subsidies that distort prices and costs. Making hospitals and Pharma act like any other retailers.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          That should be the plan. It never will be.

      5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        “Or will they criticize Trump both for letting them expire and not letting them expire on back to back days?”

        Yes.

  16. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal. (Torn between somewhat disliking cats and the fact that they're probably useful for rat control.)

    More big city charm.

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      NO CAT IS ILLEGAL!

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Except rats deserve due process.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        From your mouth to Sammy Davis Jr's ears

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Once again, not rat eradication, rat *control*.

      Unlike persistence and territorial pack predators like dogs and wolves, cats will passively cull the weak from any given colony, warren, or den as convenient.

      A dog can/will tree an animal and bark and try and climb until you drag it away. A cat, even "mousers", can/will see a rodent on a ledge that it could reach and not move a muscle.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

        You don’t know much about cats

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon...

    This could go all kinds of ways.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Like sing a duet or do a dance video together?

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        Here's a preview:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHkhIjG0DKc

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Yeah, That happened and we all let it happen.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            You did that knowing I recently forgot about it.

        2. Zeb   2 months ago

          Odds that they banged right before or right after making that video?

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            They almost did during the video.

        3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Are you saying that Trump’s meeting with Maduro will conclude with a shot for shot remake of that video starring the two of them?

      2. Super Scary   2 months ago

        Trump has a signature dance move. Does Maduro?

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          The Socialist Shuffle

          It's just a jump to the left
          And then a step to the right
          Put your hands on your partners hips
          And grab onto their wallet tight

  18. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    Looks like the DOGE obits are premature. One might say fake news.
    DOGE Slams Reuters For Pushing "Fake News" On Shutdown Story
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/reuters-community-noted-doge-shutdown-story-top-official-says-outlet-spliced-my-comments
    DOGE's official X account blasted the outlet operating under an Ireland-based X account as "fake news."
    "As usual, this is fake news from @Reuters. President Trump was given a mandate by the American people to modernize the federal government and reduce waste, fraud and abuse," DOGE wrote on X.
    DOGE added: "Just last week, DOGE terminated 78 wasteful contracts and saved taxpayers $335M. We'll be back in a few days with our regularly scheduled Friday update."
    There is no evidence that DOGE has shutdown. There is no mention of it on the press secretary, Elon, Trump, the WH , DOGE or any other gov official account. Including DOGE official website. As of 9 hours ago DOGE was still posting about the work they are doing.
    Shortly after Reuters ran its DOGE narrative, Kupor combatted the misinformation:
    Good editing by @reuters - spliced my full comments across paragraphs 2/3 to create a grabbing headline. The truth is: DOGE may not have centralized leadership under @USDS . But, the principles of DOGE remain alive and well: de-regulation; eliminating fraud, waste and abuse; re-shaping the federal workforce; making efficiency a first-class citizen; etc. DOGE catalyzed these changes; the agencies along with @USOPM and @WHOMB will institutionalize them!

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Reuters is in the same news tier as The Weekly World News.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Why do you insult the weekly world news?

  19. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Another illegal alien kills child in DUI

    https://x.com/MediaRightNews1/status/1991216945866371396

    Last week eight-year-old Mora Gerety was walking across a Boise street with her family when Elvin Ramos-Caballero, a Honduran illegal with a final removal order since 2016, allegedly struck her while impaired by alcohol. Mora died from her injuries. Ramos-Caballero is finally in ICE custody — nine years too late.

    He never should have been here.
    He never would have stayed here if Boise weren’t run by a mayor who brags about making our city a certified “Welcoming City” for illegal immigrants.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      The Libertarian Moment!

    2. HorseConch   2 months ago

      More due process. Since his due process is almost a decade old, didn't the statute of limitations on it end triggering a new due process? Isn't that how this works?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        You left out a liberal inferior court judge-activist.

  20. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    That didn't last long.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ukraine-tentatively-agrees-trump-backed-peace-plan-sending-oil-sliding

    Poor Liz

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Really don't know why Liz continues to try covering this. I see probably four articles a day about this deal all with conflicting claims and speculation. She reads an article in the NYT and becomes an insider expert.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        The problem isnt Liz totally, im pretty sure Reason offices use Newsguard to limit what employees can read.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          That make sense. Can’t dilute that ideological purity.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Democrat Rep who had Chinese spy administering his fund-raising wants to be able to vote by phone...that seems like to allow his Chinese masters unfettered ability to manipulate elections.

    https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1992270314743705720

    SWALWELL: “I want us to be able to vote by phone … I want us to max out democracy.”

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      And by democracy he means fraud.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        They need to investigate him for treason. Of which he is clearly guilty.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Even without fraud (not that he isn't effectively behaving in an overtly treasonous manner), I don't see how "max out democracy" doesn't run headlong into "tyranny of the majority".

  22. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Oops. Maybe don't say the quiet part quite so loudly.

    https://pjnewsletter.com/dem-candidate-nashville/

    With a special election approaching in Tennessee’s 7th Congressional District, Democratic candidate Aftyn Behn is under fire after a recording surfaced of her expressing hostility toward Nashville, the city she currently represents in the state legislature and would represent as part of the district if elected to Congress…

    The newly circulated video shows Behn saying, “I hate the city, I hate the bachelorettes, I hate the pedal taverns, I hate country music, I hate all of the things that make Nashville an ‘it city’ to the rest of the country. I hate it.”

    The hypocrisy is almost cartoonish. This is the same candidate who just released a campaign ad featuring herself posing with a mechanical bull while a country tune plays. She is perfectly happy to wrap herself in Nashville’s aesthetic to fool voters, all while harboring a deep-seated resentment for it. It is a profound act of deceit.

    This disdain for her own community is not an isolated incident. It is part of a disturbing pattern of hostility toward the bedrock principles of our nation. Earlier this year, Behn bragged on social media about “bullying” ICE agents and state troopers who were enforcing federal immigration law. She proudly interfered with law enforcement, treating national security like a joke.

    Her contempt extends to her entire state. According to the Daily Mail, Behn has branded Tennessee a “racist state” and called sororities “a staple of white supremacy.” This is the worldview of a far-left activist, not a public servant. She sees everything and everyone through the warped lens of a radical ideology.

    Faced with the fallout, Behn released a bizarre video that only made matters worse. Instead of a sincere apology, she offered a series of unbelievable claims, insisting she couldn’t possibly hate Nashville because she has “cried in the Country Music Hall of Fame no less than 10 times.” She dismissed the outrage as the “Republican eye of Sauron” turning on her.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Nothing like biting the hand that votes for you

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      She also said men can give birth.

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      I swear she's being run just to distract from the Maine oyster farmer.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Is that the new nickname for Rachel Maddow?

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      "This is the worldview of a far-left activist, not a public servant."

      Boy do I have some news for you.

      1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

        They have an anti-white worldview.

        This is why they hate ICE, as they are stopping illegalkind from committing crimes against white people, especially sex crimes against white girls.

    5. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Added today to the conversation was her talking to her therapist, about a recurring dream about her standing up in a room full of women saying "I dont want kids, I want power"

      The 19th was a mistake man

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Scenes from New York: I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal.'

    But is fresh cat Halal?

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'And the death rate for infants of mothers involved in FBS is extraordinarily high.'

    So why mess with Darwin?

  25. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    The "28-point peace plan" was literally translated from Russian. The entire document was from Moscow.

    The only issue that really matters is Ukraine joining NATO. I needs to happen or the plan is not worth the paper it is written on.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      1. And you know this how, Dr. Retard? Were you privy to the actual document?

      2. No. Ukraine should never be allowed to join NATO. In fact, NATO outlived its usefulness in 1992 and should’ve been dissolved. It (and the UN) should be dissolved, and we should not be entangled in foreign alliances.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...we should not be entangled in foreign alliances."

        Particularly ones with no sunset provisions, nor stated, specific goals.

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Not interested is sending our young men to defend Ukraine.
      You go instead.

    3. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Cool story, bro.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      You.
      Are.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.
      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

    5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Stfu retard.

    6. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      You are completely mad.

    7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      I dont think even Rachel maddow is this retarded.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Even Rachel Maddow would call a Tony a retarded faggot.

    8. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      MollyGodiva -
      About this Account -
      Account based in Beijing.

      https://x.com/MollyGodiva

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Tony's a New York bathhouse aficionado.

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Didn't take long...

        These posts are protected
        Only approved followers can see @MollyGodiva’s posts. To request access, click Follow. Learn more

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          And deleted all posts.

          Jeffs not showing location for me.

          https://x.com/chemjeff/about

          1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

            Location information for all users has been removed.

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              Molly lies. Everyone on X is visible unless they intentionally protect the account.

              Random check -

              RedWave Press
              https://x.com/RedWave_Press/about

              Date joined
              August 2023
              Account based in
              United States
              Verified
              Since November 2023
              ID Verified
              3 username changes
              Last on August 2023
              Connected via
              United States App Store

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                It is amazing how easily leftists lie.

            2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              I’m sure you have a lot to hide, eh comrade?

            3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              So, what do you and Jeffy have to hide, and why are you lying out your ass?

            4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Stfu commie scum.

    9. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      And they rejected it, just like how Arafat rejected that peace plan proposed by President Clinton and launched the Second Intifada.

      Russian troops will be killed by IEDs for maybe years.

    10. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Kill yourself.

    11. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Did your ChiCom handlers provide you with a translated copy, comrade?

  26. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "I hadn't realized bodega cats were illegal."

    Next up, bodega cat tax.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I want to buy your rock.

  27. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies"

    It's a good thing Trump isn't going to run again.

    This is NOT what I voted for, it is NOT why we went through a month-long shutdown.

    Why make any effort to preserve the abomination that is Obamacare? Let it crush itself under its own weight as a 100% Democrat invention.

  28. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    The White House expects to soon unveil a health policy framework that includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies

    Fucking establishment replublicans. "Let's fix Obamacare by.. extending Obamacare." Absolute garbage party. The only thing worse is Democrats.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I'm all in for another schumer schutdown

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        It worked so well for them. But I don’t think enough democrat senators will go for that again. Cut Rate Obama and Schumer aren’t exactly strong leaders.

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      That money could be better spent getting rid of the democrats.

  29. Dillinger   2 months ago

    hey I haven't been around for a couple days did anyone do a piece on how Elon showed all that Bannon / Carlson / Fuentes support is coming from Pakistan?

    so we're clear I am in Texas lol.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      The best one was that the Dept of Homeland Security account was created from Israel. Absolute banger.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        is there a word for mind-boggling and we all totally knew it the whole time?

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

          Surely the germans have a word for that.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            schockierend-allgemein-bekannt

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      We also found out Tony’s X account is in China.

  30. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>President Donald Trump plans on talking directly to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro soon

    horse head and Havana nights, or fishes?

  31. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Wow, two socialists in one month?

    maybe over the Thanksgiving break you can learn what a socialist is and what a mandami is

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      A Neo Marxist Islamist genocidal Jew hater?

      His tenure as mayor may have a silver lining. It might finally be enough to get American Jews to stop voting for democrats.

  32. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>"I might be the only American on X," writes River Page.

    oh I see. Elon unmasks half the planet & you let someone else do your job thumb emoji

  33. JFree   2 months ago

    The plan keeps shifting.

    Unfortunately - the consistent part of the 'plan' is the US pretending to play mediator in the middle. That is the worst sort of hubris - the US pretending that Russia is ok with Ukraine agreeing to have the US as a mediator between Ukraine and Russia. Talk about missing the point.

  34. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

    More Russian soldiers will come home in body bags.

    The IED-dodging phase ends when the IED deployers say so.

  35. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>somewhat disliking cats

    cats are awesome.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Agreed.

    2. MK Ultra   2 months ago

      The other white meat.

  36. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Not waiting on Mamdani...Georgia's communists are happy to spend millions of taxpayer dollars.

    My bold prediction--I lived in the area for 30 years--this will fail, fail hard, and won't take very long to do so, but will be propped up with millions more well beyond it's past-due date.

    https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/atlanta-georgia-public-state-grocery-store-d4e11ad8?mod=hp_lead_pos9

    When the Azalea Fresh Market opened this summer, it became the only supermarket to operate in this city’s downtown in two decades. To make that happen, the city contributed $8 million in cash and other grants.

    Now, this 20,000-square-foot store is the beginning of what officials hope will be more publicly funded, but privately run supermarkets to come. The goal is for the store to become profitable without any government subsidy within three years. The city is already aiding the construction of a second planned store 6 miles away, expected to open next year.

    1. Marshal   2 months ago

      It's interesting how they all land on the same plan failures at the same time. Each bad idea gives the other cover. When failure can no longer be denied they will admit to learning the smallest element possible even though we all already knew what they admit.

      It will be similar to Obama claiming to learn that no projects are really shovel ready after the infrastructure spending he sold as immediate economic relief took years to even begin. Everyone knew Obama was lying when he said the projects were shovel ready, including Obama. We all know these stores are going to fail, including Mamdani and the other people pushing for them. they don't care because they know taxpayer funding comes overwhelmingly from their enemies. Spending taxpayer money buying votes is their sole purpose in government.

  37. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

    Here's how the game is played:

    Democratic judge rules for Democrats in unprecedented, activist way: Media celebrates rule of law from obviously impartial judge protecting justice

    Panel of Republican-majority judges overturn, and restore previous norm universally accepted until like 2 minutes ago: Media questions if rule of law has been corrupted by REPUBLICAN!!! judges who obviously are motivated by politics and bowing to Trump

    Every time. Forever.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Or there’s the Reason approach of just pretending the rulings never got overturned and simply move on to the next one.

  38. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

    The premiere conference for social studies teachers is next week

    Keynote speakers include:
    *Hakeem Jeffries
    *The “bishop” who yelled at Trump about trans rights
    *Kimberlé Crenshaw (founding CRT theorist)
    *Ketanji Brown Jackson

    A session on:
    critical race action civics
    Climate change in social studies
    Reproductive and feminist justice in social studies
    Decolonial perspectives on Palestine
    Abolitionist futures for sustainability education… uh… what?
    Science education for critical consciousness
    Decolonization and land acknowledgement
    Black-joy, pro-blackness and social studies
    Meditations from youth organizers and adult co-conspirators on troubling adultism for liberation in schooling communities???

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Sounds like a bunch of people who should never be allowed near children.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Sounds like the woke/black/genderist version of the KKK.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Public schools are child abuse.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Holy shit man. When I was in elementary-middle school social studies was branches of govt, mixed with US history (which they broke off as distinct in high school).

      Crazy that its a full on open and out indoctrination at such an early age. I mean we know they have been pushing this direction, but this is worse.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        The people pushing this should be put down.

  39. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

    Jesse Waters reveals two CIA agents confirmed that the seditious Democrats' calls for rebellion is part of a LARGER OPERATION to sow mass distrust in the military for a catastrophe under President Trump

    "But they didn't come up with it themselves...to organize this, this needed some handler telling her what to do."

    "They’re trying to condition the country to prepare for something bad that’s about to happen at the hands of Donald Trump.”

    “It’s straight out of the CIA playbook. It’s a destabilization operation where you get people to mistrust each other.”

    "You establish authority. 'I'm CIA, I'm military, trust us...' then say the threat is Donald Trump. Then the solution: RESIST...and they say this is an obligation."

    I believe it, 100%. There would be NO other reason for that video other than to sow chaos within the ranks.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      We should give it a name. Maybe a shape insurrection? No, doesn’t really role off the tongue.

      Give me a minute I’ll think of something.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        Slotkin. suggestive, and just a touch Sovietesque

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Slutkin?

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Documents from various NGOs state explicitly they want to run various soft coups as they have in other countries. The IC is against america.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        And yet republicans still won’t do shit about it.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          They are also well payed through NGOs.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          It's so fucking infuriating. It was the same story with the Tories in the UK and the CDU in Germany. "What? huh? do something? legislate? Well maybe we should see how this plays our first."

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            The US, like Canada and Britain, must be cleansed of Marxists. No matter the cost in Marxist lives.

  40. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Accidental Confession: Dem in Video Commanding Troops to Disobey Orders Just Confirmed She Knows She Committed Sedition"
    [...]
    "I'll give Rep. Chrissy Houlahan this much: At least she didn't try to pawn her call for American troops to disobey President Donald Trump off on "A Few Good Men."
    This is pretty much all I can give her..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/accidental-confession-dem-in-video-commanding-troops-to-disobey-orders-just-confirmed-she-knows-she-committed-sedition/ar-AA1R7MAe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6925cf8739d44a2d86c1463e106811e9&ei=20

  41. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    Scenes from New York: A Jew and a Muslim walk into an interfaith event. The Sharia enthusiast is seated next to the Jew. What happens next might not surprise you.
    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/11/25/imam-at-cuny-calls-for-the-tips-of-fingers-of-the-filthy-rich-to-be-cut-off-under-sharia-law/#comments

    1. Marshal   2 months ago

      I used to think left wingers only embraced Muslim extremists for the votes, but it's now clear they are drawn to their open support for violence.

      The other thing to keep in mind is how much money is in religion. Even when people are poor a small amount from a large number is a large number. These Imams and others may pretend they are poor and oppose the rich, but the best way to make sure the spotlight doesn't shine on you is to ensure you control the spotlight.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Well this guy is working on his 2nd degree at a pricey college in one of the most expensive cities in the world. Pleading poverty is a non starter for me.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        I used to think left wingers only embraced Muslim extremists for the votes, but it's now clear they are drawn to their open support for violence.

        Yeah. I conceptualized the reporting on the violence as a "We don't talk about Bruno." thing, instead it's more like a "The first rule of Fight Club" thing.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

      Just the tip?

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Islam has no right to exist.

  42. db18020   2 months ago

    Now look, I can tolerate the odd bit of liberalism creeping into this column. Reasonable people can disagree. But not liking cats? That's going too far.

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