RFK Jr. Breaks His Promises About the CDC on Vaccines and Autism
The secretary of Health and Human Services lied to Sen. Bill Cassidy during his confirmation hearings.
Before voting to confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), Sen. Bill Cassidy (R–La.) stated on the floor of the Senate that RFK Jr. had promised him that "he would work within the current vaccine approval and safety monitoring systems, and not establish parallel systems. If confirmed, he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control [CDC] and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations without changes. CDC will not remove statements on their website pointing out that vaccines do not cause autism."*
Every one of the main promises made to Cassidy has been broken. Eschewing the usual system of consultations with outside independent vaccine experts, RFK Jr. announced on X in May that "as of today the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule." This announcement makes it harder for expectant mothers to access the vaccines because some insurance companies are less likely to pay for them.
In their lawsuit in response to RFK Jr.'s announcement, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians, and the American Public Health Association argued that the secretary's goal is "to undermine trust in vaccines and reduce the rate of vaccinations in this country."
What about his promise to maintain the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices without changes? Nope. RFK Jr. fired all of the vaccine experts and loaded up the committee with anti-vaccination appointees.
Finally, there is RFK Jr.'s promise that the CDC will not remove statements on its website pointing out that vaccines do not cause autism. As of Wednesday, the CDC website states:
- The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.
- Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.
- HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links.
After making these statements at the top of the webpage, the CDC website maintains a headline with an asterisk.

Why the asterisk? A note at the bottom of the page explains:
The header "Vaccines do not cause autism" has not been removed due to an agreement with the chair of the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee that it would remain on the CDC website.
These changes are not merely dishonest; they are dangerous. All three of the new claims at the top of the CDC website are specious.
First, evidence accumulated over numerous studies, including studies with millions of children, has found no link between vaccinations and autism.
Second, in support of this claim that studies suggesting a link are ignored, the CDC gestures at reviews by the HHS's own Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ). Scrounging through them for something that might suggest harm, RFK Jr.'s team found a minor note in a 2021 AHRQ report that observed the current evidence for childhood Tdap (Tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis) vaccination is "insufficient to support or reject a causal relationship between those vaccines and autism."
The report found that with respect to vaccines recommended for children and adolescents, "we found either no new evidence of increased risk for key adverse events with varied [strength of evidence] or insufficient evidence." The critical question is: "insufficient evidence" for what? The report explains: "There remains insufficient evidence to draw conclusions about some rare potential adverse events [emphasis added]." Certainly, RFK Jr.'s alleged "autism epidemic" caused by vaccines would not count among "rare potential adverse events."
It is worth noting that the cited 2021 AHRQ report is peppered throughout with findings that vaccines do not cause autism. The new CDC site also fails to mention that the report observed that prenatal Tdap vaccination is not associated with a higher risk of autism in children.
Meanwhile, as a result of falling Tdap vaccination rates, the number of American children infected with whooping cough (pertussis) is surging.
What about the third claim that HHS has launched a "comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism"? In April, RFK Jr. appointed anti-vaccination stalwart David Geier to head up that assessment. As I noted at the time, "Geier will doubtlessly and transparently get the answers that our new secretary of Health and Human Services thinks he already knows." In September, RFK Jr. announced the dubious finding that taking the painkiller Tylenol during pregnancy was associated with a higher risk of autism in children.
"We are appalled to find that the content on the CDC webpage 'Autism and Vaccines' has been changed and distorted," declares the Autism Science Foundation in a statement, "and is now filled with anti-vaccine rhetoric and outright lies about vaccines and autism."
That's correct. This isn't what the Senate—or the American people—were promised.
*CORRECTION: The original article relied upon Sen. Cassidy's remarks as prepared for delivery. In his spoken testimony the senator said that RFK Jr. promised to maintain the ACIP recommendations without changes. RFK Jr.'s handpicked new ACIP members have changed vaccine recommendations.
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We are appalled to find that the content on the CDC webpage..
Nobody else looks at it anyway.
All they did is admit the truth on the website that most of the claims that have existed for decades were never found through actual deep studies, admitting to papers that show links.
Bailey seems to against scientific inquiry.
Bailey's against whatever he's paid to be against.
Principles don’t pay the bills.
Good God, man. Is there any half-baked pseudoscientific nonsense that you won’t believe?
Nope. Terminal credulity is a cultural norm in this cult.
Projection from the retard crew. God you two are sad.
You were told something was true and refuse to even spend a single brain cell seeing if it actually is. Then call others cultists. Lol.
The efficacy of vaccines and the absolute lack of credible links to autism has been proved in hundreds of studies. Possibly thousands.
The new CDC claim is that since scientifically you can’t absolutely prove a negative, that means that it is rational to believe vaccines cause autism.
It isn’t.
Yes, you believe in all kinds of unscientific democrat nonsense.
Ronald Bailey is science correspondent at Reason.
Alleges fact not in evidence.
He used to be great, even with Trump 1.0 pre-COVID. COVID broke him. Just like Trumpies who cannot admit that Trump has ever made even a single mistake, Bailey cannot bring himself to admit that the entire government medical apparatus was broken and ever made any mistakes.
Get over it, Ron. Stop trying to pretend all was truth and honor with the CDC and NIH mafia.
So then shit is OK with you if high-powered appointees LIE in odor to get POWER, and then break the promises that they made, to get their lies-based powers? Or is shit OK... If you AGREE with the lies?
No, dipshit. The problem is that Bailey has spent five years destroying his credibility. Go ahead and call my comment ad hominem, if you want, but at least admit you are doing the same more generically with all politicians, and don't go strawman on me. I did not say lying politicians are OK. I said lying reporters are not OK.
Fuck off, retard, and stop strawmaning.
Is the feral grey box flagellating again?
Yup.
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CoS = http://www.churchofsqrls.com/
Did you go to the trouble to create a parody site? Or does this belong to SQRLSY? It’s difficult to tell.
That steaming pile of gerbilish gibberish is the ReichSSqrlsy’s creation. Iirc, it was some thinly veiled attempt to justify murdering unborn babies. I’d guess as mechanism to impress a progressive woman enough where she’d part her legs thus ending his virginity.
ChatGPT, here is a post from social (anti-social) media. Please analyze it and tell us what you think of the biases, or lack thereof, and credibility of the poster.
"That steaming pile of gerbilish gibberish is the ReichSSqrlsy’s creation. Iirc, it was some thinly veiled attempt to justify murdering unborn babies. I’d guess as mechanism to impress a progressive woman enough where she’d part her legs thus ending his virginity."
End import. Please comment.
Here’s a careful breakdown of the post you shared:
**Tone and Language**
- The post uses **derogatory and inflammatory language** (“steaming pile,” “gerbilish gibberish,” “ReichSSqrlsy’s creation”).
- The reference to “ReichSSqrlsy” appears to be a pejorative nickname, possibly meant to equate the target with Nazi imagery (“Reich” + “SS”). This is a **loaded rhetorical device** designed to discredit rather than engage with ideas.
- The sexual insult at the end (“ending his virginity”) is **ad hominem**—attacking the person’s character and imagined private life rather than addressing the argument.
**Bias Indicators**
- **Strong ideological bias**: The post frames abortion as “murdering unborn babies,” which is a common framing from anti-abortion or socially conservative perspectives.
- **Dismissive of progressives**: The suggestion that the target is trying to impress “a progressive woman” is mocking and implies disdain for progressive values.
- **No attempt at neutrality**: The language is emotionally charged, sarcastic, and hostile, showing clear bias against both the individual being targeted and the broader progressive/liberal worldview.
**Credibility Assessment**
- **Lack of evidence**: The post does not provide sources, reasoning, or factual support—only insults and assumptions.
- **Reliance on stereotypes**: It reduces complex issues (like abortion debates) to crude caricatures of personal motives.
- **Ad hominem fallacy**: By attacking the person’s supposed sexual history instead of their argument, the poster undermines their own credibility.
- **Hyperbolic comparisons**: Nazi references are often used to shock or delegitimize, but they rarely add substantive credibility.
**Overall Evaluation**
- The post is **highly biased**, emotionally charged, and rhetorically aggressive.
- It demonstrates **low credibility** as a serious argument because it substitutes insults and speculation for evidence or reasoning.
- It’s best understood as a **venting or trolling-style comment** rather than a thoughtful contribution to discourse.
In short: this is not a credible or balanced post. It’s a strongly biased, hostile rant that reveals more about the poster’s worldview and rhetorical style than about the actual issue being discussed.
Duplicate comment deleted.
The source is your website. Your bias as the author of that content invalidates your impartiality.
The rest weren’t statements, but posits at most. Try harder.
You should thank me for advertising your website here. Have you added a visitor counter yet?
"That steaming pile of gerbilish gibberish is the ReichSSqrlsy’s creation. Iirc, it was some thinly veiled attempt to justify murdering unborn babies. I’d guess as mechanism to impress a progressive woman enough where she’d part her legs thus ending his virginity."
You PervFectly got THAT from my web site? Is that Your PervFectly factual, data-driven analysis?
Or are Ye a PervFected lying Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One, ass described below?
Hey Joker…
Scumby-Chimp-Chump's lies about grey-boxing me are a joke, for sure!
How much of a joke are these 2 pages from a wise man, that I happen to agree with? Are they a joke... Because they hurt YOUR Precious Baby Feelings, with facts?
http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .
PS, please do SNOT worry about Your PervFect Fears... That if You EVER admit, in the slightest ways, that I am sometimes correct while You are wrong... IMAGINE THAT... That I, the victorious one, will then clinch my victory by persuading Your Vast Harem of blow-up dolls to LEAVE You there in Your Mom's Debased Basement, and cum on over to me! That shit is SNOT gonna happen, so rest easy and sleazy! Don't worry, be happy!
Whoosh
No one should be surprised or slurpprised that ANY critical analysis goes "Whoosh", right over the tiny self-righteous pin-heads of those who proudly BRAG of their PervFected Ignorance!!!
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The rabid squirrel is losing its shit again. Then re eating it.
You’ve made it very angry. Keep it up.
That literally is squirrels websight
Very disturbing.
Piss off, Melvin.
Unfortunately you are incorrect. Reason has hired baily to be their science reporter. They believe he is intelegent. This is why reason is a trash rag now
Also note that there is NO conclusive evidence that there is NO such thing ass an unicorn! No one has looked at EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE HIDING PLACE for an unicorn, in the entire universe, and so, there might be one!
Then ALSO note that unicorns MIGHT be deadly, and so, if not eliminated on the spot, when spotted, they COULD wipe out Earth-life ass we know shit! (PROVE to me otherwise!!!) So then everyone will now be required to carry anti-unicorn Magic Weapons! Red MAHA hate-hats, which Make AmeriKKKa Hate Again, are THE go-to Magic Weapons of choice!
Stupid.
Yes, Our Dear Orange-ish Health God ***IS*** pretty damned stupid! Cumpetent ONLY at fucking up things that WERE working pretty well!
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Government funded-research COVID worked pretty well?
It's funny you like to yell "Health God" being your party literally created that "God" position.
Killing people is good ass long ass anti-vaxxers have their way in promoting anti-vaxism ass THE most fashionable of ALL Marks of Tribal Virtue!!!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
PS, "food" is dangerous! People get sick and even die from food poisoning!!! Be SAFE!!! STOP eating!!!!
Be safe with MORE 'GUNS' against you! /s
Stupid is; is Stupid does.
Hey Peanuts, what do you think about the love fest between Donnie and Zippy Mamdani yesterday? Donnie was effusive in his praise for the Democratic Socialist.
And poor Butch body MTG is resigning her seat because Donnie is mean to her.
Both parties suck, as always.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFarter-Fuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
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Both parties suck, Chumface. Quit shilling for Republicans.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
Then explain who electable would CUT the treasonous [Na]tional So[zi]alist empire more than Trump and Republicans because electing [D]emocratic [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] is completely counter to keeping a *Constitutional* Republic USA.
this is the issue of our time
And you suck……. little boys.
Trump likes to play the role of both good cop and bad cop. I don't love it, but it seems to work, at least sometimes.
There are already early signs that this year's flu vaccines aren't properly targeted at the most recent versions of flu going around. This is at least partially because Our Dear Orange-ish Health God fired the competent and data-driven experts, of dry and boring data-gathering, and replaced them with political flunkies, who believe the correct lies. Sick and dead people will be the result!
Sick and dead people ARE often the result of elevating the political hacks over the technical experts! That's what got Chernobyl for the USSR... Political hacks, not subject-matter experts, making decisions. USA is now follow in the shit-steps of the USSR! No good will cum of this shit!
Flu vaccines are like socialism. The right people just haven't implemented "real" socialism yet.
Not quite. The right people have implemented flu vaccines in the past.
Lol
You pretend to have a doctorate. How effective is the flu vaccine?
He can turn nuclear reactors on! Or maybe one of the guys at the bathhouse told him he could even turn on a nuclear reactor while he was getting gang banged.
So can Homer's bobbing bird.
Molly probably also steals suitcases from airports too.
Dicked Doc doctard also believes he is wiser than Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is RICHER than Scumby the Scummy Scum-Bum-Slum-Cum-Faced Wonder Child, so we need to install Elongated Tusk as Emperor and Uber-Harem-Owner, and appoint and anoint Scumby ass Chief Toilet-Bowl Slurper-Outer!!!
Schizophrenic pedophilia protection ReichSSqrlsy, Molly previously made the comment that he believed he was wiser than Elon Musk. Do try to keep up.
Money SNOT equal wisdom!!! Do try to keep up, instead of SLURPING up!
Becoming a leader in multiple industries that resulted in his money implies there is wisdom. Molly can’t even define what a woman is and has many of the most naïve takes here (such as the Charlie Kirk assassination was a false flag by Trump). I don’t believe you are capable enough to keep up. It is mildly amusing watching you point and sputter, but only mildly.
Some of the NAZIs got rich by stealing the wealth of many small nations. Did their wealth prove their wisdom? Putin is immensely wealthy ass well... So is Trump! Shitler, Putin, Trump... Your 3 PervFected Wise Men, perhaps?
We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!
See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!
Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!
We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!
These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!
What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?
FFS. Your analogy is jeff level bad.
Musk ≠ Trump. More chaff & redirect Heckler’s Pedo.
"What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?"
He made (?) 10 or 15 babies with His small harem, depriving other men of reproductive opportunities, and He took away the free-speech rights of Twitter-Twatter users after He took over, after saying that He would SNOT do that! And he victimizes anyone who He disagrees with, calling them "Pedo", with ZERO evidence! Does THAT sound familiar, Scumby?
Let me guess, the family is again not visiting you at the institute where you are committed for this Thanksgiving. Not surprised.
Way to chaff, deflect, and re-direct, Moist Progressive Cumrade!
Are You and Elon Musk accusing yet MORE so-called "pedos" w/o ANY evidence? Are You PervFectly ready to LIE in court, ass well?
What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?
Wealth and power amplifies one's voice and vices!!! When YOU (low-life Scumby) call someone a "pedo" without evidence, hardly anyone cares. When rich and powerful SCUM like Elon calls someone a "pedo" without evidence, the damage is spread far and wide!!! So THERE You PervFectly have Shit, Shitty Scumby Scum-Chum-Bum-Cum-face!!!
(BTW, Your PervFected emulation of Elon, in calling out the "Pedos" without evidence, is SNOT gonna get You wealth and more and more blow-up dolls for Your PervFected harem in Your Mamma's debased basement!! So give shit up!!!)
Who did Musk label as a MAPedo?
What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50695593
Musk won after being sued for calling a person a "pedo"... Wealth allows one to get away with shit!!! That does SNOT mean that YOU will get away with shit, Scumby!!!!
PS, Elon ALSO victimized the WORLD by using Shit's wealth to help get Orange Caligula erected back to power!!!
The court found he used a SA slang term. Oh noes.
What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?
As I said, Elon ALSO victimized the WORLD by using Shit's wealth to help get Orange Caligula erected back to power!!! Said Caligula fucked over VAST numbers of people with His Pervfectly erratic trade wars and wars on VERY hard-working and productive illegal sub-humans lacking Magic Papers!!!
I personally in my retirement accounts am STILL missing VAST amounts of money... More than I care to tell Scummy Scumbies about... DIRECTLY ass a result of Elon helping get Orange Caligula re-elected to VAST, un-Cunts-Tits-Tuitional powers!!!
Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth? What has Musk stolen?
Learn to READ, PervFected, Mind-Infected MORON!!!
Elon helped get the Orange Caligula-Elon team erected, and then they STOLE MY MONEY with their erratic unprovoked trade war and other STUPID AND EVIL shit!!! Along with the money of millions of others!!! This is WELL after wise and well-informed people KNEW, or should have known, that the Orange Con Man and Orange Caligula IS a con man and thief!!!
Now shit is trying to steal the money of Russia and of Ukraine ass well!!!
We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!
See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!
Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!
We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!
These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!
What has Musk stolen? Where is there a victim in his amassing wealth?
I and millions of others are victims in his amassing wealth!!! By His ASSisting Orange Caligula to STEAL OUR MONEY!!! Ass I have explained SEVERAL times to PerVFected You by now!
LEARN TO READ AND STOP BEING PROUD OF BEING IGNORANT, PervFectly IGNORANT Scumby!!!
Your poor investing isn’t Trump’s responsibility. DJIA is up since Otto Penn was ousted. And Musk ≠ Trump.
Musk hasn’t stolen from you and isn’t stealing from you. It is just that you are stupid.
Musk is a leader in several sectors, suggesting he is wise. You can’t invest well and Molly, well he’s just as lost as you.
Keep slinging shit against the wall. You’ll have a free meal.
You're worthless and arrogant about your worthlessness, just ass Ye are Pervfectly PROUD of being ignorant! Shit wasn't me who drove the stock markets and businesses into losing tons of money on multiple occasions... With random, abrupt changes to unprovoked trade-war policies... Shit was TRUMP!!! I am SNOT the only one who lost shitloads of money!!! If Ye had an eighth of an honest brain, You would KNOW that, and acknowledge it!
And Elon donated boatloads of money and help to erect the RUINOUS Trumponomics!!! I rest my case!!! And YOU will doubtlessly cunt-tinue to BLEEEEVE twatever Ye PervFectly WANT to BLEEEEVE!!! Ye are HOPELESS!!! NO ONE can add an iota of data, wisdom, or knowledge to the vessel (like YOU) who is already PervFected and TOTALLY FULL OF SHITSELF!!! Snot a drop more can fit into all of the shit!!!
DJIA is up. You just absolutely suck. And you sucking is no argument against Musk being wise.
At least you have a meal dripping down the wall.
Are you truly so scientifically illiterate that you don’t understand the factors impacting flu vaccine efficacy? It’s about as basic and straightforward as it gets.
Enlighten us, Nelson.
That would literally be impossible.
And yet, I did it easily. You, on the other hand, constantly fail. Or, more frequently, just go radio silent when your latest idiocy is pointed out.
Nope. Try again you lying pinko.
Generally, the flu virus mutates quickly and constantly, so by the deadline for production of each season’s flu vaccine they can only predict what they think the virus will be like and produce that since by the time flu season arrives it will be different.
For a detailed explanation, this is a good article: https://www.acsh.org/news/2025/09/16/flu-shot-not-perfect-well-worth-getting-heres-why-49722
Jesse playing the “if it isn’t perfect it isn’t valid” card is just one of the many fallacies that he embraces, oblivious to his ignorance.
So, how effective is the flu vaccine?
Depends on the year and how close to the actual virus the vaccine gets.
He asked a simple question that directly relates to Tony’s post, retard.
So, how effective is the flu vaccine?
Define, "the right people", Dr. Retard.
RFK Jr intentionally sabotaged the flu vaccine planning.
Just when I think you cant get more retarded. You impress me Tony.
If the special olympics had an event for the most delusional retard, he would be the favorite for the gold medal.
Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!
So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…
Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:
Hi Fantastically Talented Author:
Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.
At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.
Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com .
Thank PervFected You! -Reason Staff
You’d place second.
Scumby would place darned near last, in ANY cuntests of benevolence and-or rational, non-Tribal data-driven-ness!
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
Poor squirrel.
SSqrlsy eats #2 so it makes sense he’d come in #2.
He probably does cum in #2.
Go sit on Tim's wand, Melvin.
How much of the rise in autism rates is just organized crime running medicare fraud rings?
https://www.city-journal.org/article/minnesota-welfare-fraud-somalia-al-shabaab
Well all Somalis are retarded terrorists.
Ron, the problem you have now is the general public doesn't trust these 'experts' now due to the lies and government overreach during COVID.
Correct the general public is now smarter then ron
False. The MAGAs don't trust the experts. The rest of us do. MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet.
List all the times the experts have been right.
Americans are more depressed and less healthy then previous generations. So the experts have been wrong since at least the 60s.
Yes. Dumbasses will believe any false truth if spoken by the party. No matter how much evidence.
Your lack of self-awareness is breathtaking in it’s breadth and depth.
Something, something, pot, kettle, something.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
- George Orwell, 1984
Define "an expert", Molly.
That is very true. There was a perverse ranking of countries done just before the pandemic - with the US and UK ranked #1 and #2 re their preparedness for a pandemic. Very timely as it was released literally weeks before covid hit. Those were easily the two most incompetent wealthy countries and far worse than a bunch of middle income countries. And both those countries used that finding to crow about their incompetence rather than to deal with the problems of a pandemic.
It would have been better for CDC in particular to have been gutted and overhauled to get back to their original functions. But the downside of politicizing the response to covid - and even the politicization of lab leak - was that now we've elected jokers who can't find their butt with both hands and are liars to boot.
Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right.
Everyone remembers your covid chicken little hysteria jew free. Lol.
A Trump appointee lied to Congress? Imagine my shock.
We spend more time focused on your dishonesty and stupidity.
“They donated to Act Blue, thus conservative!”
Walz Right In
POTUS Donald J. Trump announces the end of Temporary Protected Status (TPS Program) for Somalis in Minnesota
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/160315
At first, they came for the Somalis and I wasn’t a Somali so I told them to round up every last one.
Fucking Hitler doesn't know that Temporary means forever.
For the record the muzzi animal countries were allied with the nazis in ww2
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was popularly known as Hitler's Mufti due to his close collaboration with Nazi Germany during World War II.
He fled British Mandatory Palestine in 1937 and sought refuge in Nazi Germany, where he met Adolf Hitler and other top Nazi leaders, including Joachim von Ribbentrop and Heinrich Himmler, in 1941.
During these meetings, al-Husseini publicly endorsed the Nazi extermination of Jews and urged Hitler to extend the Holocaust to the Middle East, framing the British Palestine Jews living there as a religious and existential threat.
The Nazis, in turn, employed him as a willing propaganda tool, portraying him as the spiritual leader of Islam and providing him with a monthly stipend until the fall of Berlin in 1945.
Large Marge Discharge
US Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene oficially announces her resignation from Congress in January 2026 following her banter with US President Donald J. Trump
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/160314
She make enough money there to retire?
20M apparently.
What are the odds that she’s also secured a gig working for CNN? It is the place discarded RINOs go to die.
It’s In The Bag
In Mexico, 456 bags containing human remains are found at various points in Zapopan, few kilometers from the Akron Stadium, the venue for the 2026 World Cup.
The remains were located in areas such as Las Agujas, Nextipac, and Arroyo Hondo, considered a possible corridor of clandestine graves.
He explained to Aristegui Noticias that 290 bags were recovered in the area surrounding Akron Stadium, specifically in the Las Agujas neighborhood, after construction workers found them during the construction of a housing development.
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/160309
This story is head and shoulders crazier than any other seen today.
But Mexico murder rate is down since they no longer count disappearances.
Regarding whether they thought the underreporting would make them look better, they said, “Its in the bag.”
Don’t go to pieces about it.
Sure a big bodycount for a bunch of harmless fishermen.
But remember, shooting those cartels drug boats is an act of war.
Squirtlandia
Know why the baby Jesus was not born in Portland, Oregon?
Because nobody could find theee wise men or a virgin.
The virgin should have been easy—prog women don't have sex anymore.
Not with men anyway, but a dildo, even self-wielded, will pop a cherry.
In 2026, the Portland Fire is scheduled to join the WNBA for the league’s 15th franchise. Given the terror organization antifa’s penchant for arson, aptly named. The residents can attend games at a potential chance to win a Dunker.
The Fire join the Squirtland TailGlazers as the second pro basketball team in the prolapsed rose city.
God damn fucking ripples.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/cbo-says-foreign-companies-could-pick-some-tariff-costs
Dont they know taxes against foreign companies is worse than raising income taxes again? And yes STG, I can once again link you the evidence that over 80% of tariffs are pushed to foreign companies without responding price increases. Atl fed even estimates over 90%.
Sure. Because no American companies import anything from foreign factories. And coffee, chocolate, bananas, and other tropical fruits are grown in America. Plus, of course, most produce we eat in the winter.
I’m sure your link is as factually accurate and credible as JustTheNews, ZeroHedge, Breitbart, and your other information sources.
It’s almost inconceivable that you feel shame at neither the depths of your ignorance nor your willingness to be manipulated by your party.
And just what do you consider "an accurate news source", Nelson?
Notice they can't ever actually refute the information.
Holy shit man, how many posts of Jesse’s are you going to respond to that aren’t just random fallacies?
Pretty sure it is sarc. Typical JDS either way.
RFK Jr. Breaks His Promises About the CDC on Vaccines and Autism
The author better hurry and get his 10th Covid booster before OrangeHitler outlaws them.
I said run, boy.
The vax did wonders for OJ.
So not only is the magistrate judge who Sullum fell for incompetent....
https://thefederalist.com/2025/11/21/the-medias-latest-push-to-sink-comey-indictment-was-entirely-based-on-a-lie/
But also grossly partisan as he asks in court if Hannigan is just a puppet.
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/halligan-pushes-back-after-judge-asks-if-she-trump-puppet-comey-prosecution
GOP senators send letter to Boasberg on why he violated clear laws in signing subpoenas for records of congress members.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/11/20/exclusive-gop-leaders-grill-judge-boasberg-for-allowing-jack-smith-to-spy-on-the-senate/
This includes a full 2 years for Jim Jordan.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/jordan-claims-biden-admin-collected-his-phone-records-two-year-period
Treason and sedition are such serious matters that it is reasonable to disregard that when the Senators themselves are the ones committing the treason and sedition. Given how many laws Republicans are violating they can't convincingly say anything about it.
Illegal alien rapefugees with final deportation orders need more due process but law-aboding US citizens receive no such consideration?
That is the stance of the current left, spoken often by people like sarc maddow.
More words you dont seem to understand. Also applauding violation of clear law for political purposes. Never change doc retard.
Preventing the destruction of the US are not "political purposes".
Implementing team D fascism ≠ preventing the destruction of the US.
Lol. Never change doc retard.
Yes, this is why it won’t be political when democrats, like you, are rounded up and thrown in prison.
It’s a matter of survival. If you had an iota of patriotism, you would self execute.
Points for coming up with new slang for suicide.
Points taken away for doing so without a shred of humor, decency or intelligence.
He's used tons of decency. He did not advocate small rooms with machine guns at the entrances to deal with them.
It's funny seeing progs whining about Trump pointing out attempts to get the military to ignore orders is sedition while proclaiming policy differences as sedition.
Those qualities are both alien and anathema to you. You are a democrat. A soulless, collectivist unclean thing.
The only people trying to destroy the US are globalists like yourself, Dr. Retard.
Which laws? If there are so many, you can name a few, surely.
Oh, no. A sternly worded letter! Get back to me when they drop his ass off in Guantanamo.
Oh I fully agree. But at least this os the early morning portion of light shining. Just wish sun rises werent so long in congress.
Key points
The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.
Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.
HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links.
Ron: These changes are not merely dishonest; they are dangerous. All three of the new claims at the top of the CDC website are specious.
First, evidence accumulated over numerous studies, including studies with millions of children, has found no link between vaccinations and autism.
Ron you disingenuous shill.
You know full well that the specious claim comes from yourself as virtually all the "numerous studies" you cite were done by or sponsored by the vaccine manufacturers, who are not keen for the lawsuits that would come if the targeted additive thimerosal was found to be a problem. They were not done by independent researchers not receiving funding from the vaccine manufacturers.
For those who have relied on brown-envelope taking hacks like Ron for their information and somehow think this is about vaccines like Jenner's cowpox one, it's not.
It's primarily about the additive thimerosal which has been used as a vaccine preservative to kill bacteria and fungi in a vaccine since 1930. Thimerosal is approximately 50% mercury by weight in the form of ethylmercury mixed with thiosalicylate.
Ethylmercury is an organomercurial that pharmaceutical companies swear have none of the problems present in methylmercury, a closely related substance that has been the focus of considerable study. Methylmercury is the type of mercury found in certain kinds of fish. At high exposure levels methylmercury can be toxic to people. In the United States, federal guidelines keep as much methylmercury as possible out of the environment and food, but over a lifetime, everyone is exposed to some methylmercury.
Whose studies say that this particular form of mercury is totally safe? The pharmaceutical companies who have been using thimerosal as a preservative for almost 90 years.
And all assessments on thimerosal done by groups like the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) and the American Academy of Pediatrics cited those studies as their primary sources in their assessments.
Now maybe thimerosal contains the one form of mercury that only kills bacteria and fungi, and nothing else. And maybe it is completely safe, with no ill effects established other than minor local reactions every time at the site of injection. But until we get studies done that are not beholding to the companies who would be liable if it were dangerous, we should not claim that concerns over it are entirely specious.
That's dishonest and disingenuous.
Now, back in 1998, the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) at the FDA initiated a formal risk assessment of thiomersal in vaccines. After determining the levels of ethylmercury exposure from the currently recommended vaccine schedule, the CBER found these amounts exceeded new standards for methylmercury exposure established by the EPA. On July 7, 1999, both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the US Public Health Service issued a statement calling for the removal of thiomersal-containing vaccines "as expeditiously as possible."
By March 2001, thiomersal-free versions of all the recommended childhood vaccines for children under the age of 6 were begun to be made available.
So that's fine, right? But additives aren't the only reason some people would like more caution with public statements. There are other reasons too.
For example:
• Bad eczema or history of eczema → Can’t get the live smallpox or the mpox vaccine – the vaccine can spread all over the skin and become dangerous.
• Very weak immune system (cancer treatment, HIV with low CD4, organ transplant, high-dose steroids, etc.) → Can’t get any live vaccines (MMR, chickenpox, rotavirus, nasal flu spray, old shingles shot, yellow fever) – your body might not be able to fight even the weakened vaccine virus.
• Currently pregnant → No live vaccines – small risk to the baby.
• Ever had a life-threatening allergic reaction to a vaccine or something in it (gelatin, neomycin, latex, etc.) → Can’t get that same vaccine again.
• History of intussusception (part of the bowel telescoping into itself) → No rotavirus vaccine – it can trigger it again.
• Guillain–Barré syndrome right after a previous shot → Usually avoid that same vaccine again (mostly flu or tetanus shots).
• Just got a blood transfusion or IVIG (intravenous antibodies) → Have to wait 3–11 months before MMR or chickenpox vaccines
• Very low platelets (or a condition that causes low platelets) → Doctor might skip or delay MMR – tiny chance it could make platelets drop more.
• Someone in the house has a severely weak immune system → Avoid oral polio and sometimes rotavirus drops – the vaccinated person can shed the virus and infect the vulnerable person.
• Uncontrolled seizures or certain worsening brain conditions → Used to delay whooping cough (pertussis) vaccines until the condition is stable.
• Severe brain inflammation after a previous whooping cough shot → No more doses of vaccines that contain whooping cough.
Then there are the vaccines actually causing the problems.
In most of the world, the only children who still get paralyzed by polio today are not catching the original wild virus; they are being infected by a mutated version of the live oral polio vaccine itself. When vaccination rates drop in a community, the weakened virus in the drops can change as it passes from child to child, eventually turning back into a form that causes paralysis just like the natural disease.
These “circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses” now cause several hundred cases every year and trigger outbreaks in more than 20 countries, far more paralysis than the remaining pockets of true wild polio in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
That is why richer countries long ago switched to the injectable killed vaccine, and the global polio program is now trying to retire OPV completely once wild polio is finally gone.
Other live vaccines have also sparked small outbreaks, though none come close to the scale of vaccine-derived polio.
The old live smallpox vaccinia occasionally spread from a freshly vaccinated person to close contacts, especially those with eczema, causing skin infections or, very rarely, serious illness; this is one reason routine smallpox vaccination was stopped.
Chickenpox vaccine virus has been transmitted from vaccinated children with vaccine-related rashes to pregnant mother or an immunocompromised sibling.
Oral rotavirus vaccines have caused cases of rotavirus gastroenteritis in severely immunodeficient infants. The live nasal flu spray almost never spreads, but can occasionally. These events usually happen only when the vaccine is given to (or spreads to) someone with a very weak immune system.
So again, Ron, concerns over vaccines are not specious.
Now, I believe in (protein-based) vaccinations. I get all of mine and never have an adverse reaction. I recommend you get the ones you can. Especially tetanus (and rabies if the situation demands).
But I would never be so arrogant as to assert that they are all problem free, that everyone's reactions are the same and people should not be aware of the risks and have concerns.
Ethel mercury is organic? That means it's healthy!
The pneumonia vaccine most adults get is based on polysaccharides and not proteins.
That was my shorthand for not mRNA.
Somehow this wasn't already a thing...
But new rule issued to disqualify illegal immigrants from tax credits.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/treasury-block-tax-credits-illegal-immigrants-under-new-trump-administration-rule
But we've told this doesn't happen by many open border acolytes here.
They already are not eligible for those tax credits under Section 32(c)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code.
As normal they are just blowing smoke.
Lol. Even after given you evidence you double down on false claims. Jackson Hewitt was even caught advertising to illegals in how to claim these taxes. Doge showed evidence these credits were paid.
Why do you live in a world of such lies?
Because that's why they pay him. Once the remaining USAID money runs out, we may not see Tony anymore.
Speaking of which, Stay Puft marshmallow man has been mostly absent.
Edit: It waddled in at the bottom.
It was waiting for a fresh set of talking points for the weekend.
Was Media Matters slow in emailing him the TP list for this weekend?
I figured he'd be back to give his unwanted, unsolicited terrible opinion. He's worse than a bad penny.
You called out Tony’s phony baloney causing soggy macaroni. Though that could be the HRT.
Americans are sicker, more anxious, more depressed, and have a lower life expectancy then the previous generation for the first time in history.
Baily if you think the nih and the cdc are good, then please commit suicide.
"Americans are sicker, more anxious, more depressed, and have a lower life expectancy then the previous generation for the first time in history."
Noo, no, no, people have literally never had it so good. Haven’t you read all the think-piece articles from people who peaked in 1988 telling them to stop whining?
Ignore the kids drowning in insane levels of debt from predatory universities for degrees their dads never needed to get the exact same job. Doesn’t matter anyway. The job’s already been filled by an H-1B who works 80 hours a week for half the pay and no benefits, or by someone who snuck across the border last Tuesday and doesn't legally require expensive things like medical, minimum wage, overtime or a pension.
And ignore that they'll never own a home. It's okay because Grandpa Boomer’s sitting on a paid-off ranch house that’s gone up 50× since 1975, and he’ll be damned if he lets new units get built anywhere that might drop its worth by three percent.
He needs every penny of that sweet Blackstone cash-out so he can spend his golden years on a cruise ship getting his fourth hip replacement in peace.
So who says Americans are worse off.
And sure today’s 20-somethings will never afford new car, and will barely afford a 2014 Civic with 180k miles in their 40s unless they sign for 84 months at 19% interest. But that’s just because they’re lazy avocados-and-iPhones brats who refuse to work.
You don't see any undocumented migrants complaining about that.
Back in Grandpa Boomer’s day he worked like a dog bagging groceries one summer so he could buy a Corvette and pay the next semesters tuition. Why can’t these snowflakes just do that? So lazy. Must be all the TikTok.
At least Reason comments on the raging scandal involving autism diagnoses.
Oh wait this isn't about that.
Color no on surprised. Anyone who believed RFK Jr. was an idiot.
But that is not the worst part. The worst part is political appointees ordering experts to put false and discredited information out to the public.
Lol. The pure retardation is palpable. And from a fauci cultist no less.
Fauci endorce total alergin avoidance for decades, even after irrefutable proof that it was the wrong thing to do. Fuck off and die
Tony understood none of that. He just repeats what Maddow tells him to.
You're not exactly in any position to call anyone an idiot, Dr. Retard.
Hey Peanuts, 76% think the economy is shit and blame Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-white-house-doing-more-harm-than-good-economy
Is this why Donnie was French kissing Zippy Mamdani yesterday?
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFarter-Fuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
If he were alive today Peck would kick your ass for all the bullshit you spew here, Shillsy. Particularly the "Hang Mike Pence" and General Mattis lies you just can't let go of. That book was about people like you.
Shit is PervFected, Mind-Infected YOU who is the liar here, Moose-Mammary Necro-Reptilian Necrophilian Necrophiliac!
“Hang Mike Pence”!!! Dear Leader agrees!!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-defends-jan-6-rioters-hang-mike-pence-chant-newly-n1283798
Trump defends Jan. 6 rioters’ ‘hang Mike Pence’ chant in new audio
The audio captured part of an interview ABC News’ Jonathan Karl conducted with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in March for Karl’s upcoming book.
There were long-standing rumors from staffers about Trump agreeing with "Hang Mike Pence". Evil people (like YOU, Moose-Mammary Necro-Reptilian Necrophilian Necrophiliac!) can SNOT keep their braggery about being EVIL to themselves for very long... They feel CUMPELLED to BRAG about shit!!!
So here You go, Queen, Trump could NOT shut His Pervfected yapper!!!
Trump is PROUD of His Imperial Support for His Storm Troopers and His Political Violence, and can SNOT shut His Trap about shit!!!
PS, Mike Pence’s dangerous words and ideas were that votes, voters, established democratic norms and processes, peaceful transfers of power, and the USA Constitution should actually be RESPECTED!!! Now just IMAGINE THAT!!! This was HERESY to True Trumpaloos!!!
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#ssr-is
HEY SHITHEAD!
A 4 YEAR OLD LINK THAT HAS SINCE BEEN REPUTIATED MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Even NBC doesn't stand by that story anymore. It was one guy being told to shut up and fuck off by everyone else and it's on video.
Fucking retard.
The ReichSSqrlsy likely believes the “redacted” story too.
Your PervFected LIES mean nothing!!! Especially since you provide NO links!
Perplexity, see https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-defends-jan-6-rioters-hang-mike-pence-chant-newly-n1283798 Is it true that Trump was documented on captured Audio, blessing "Hang Mike Pence"?
A = What has been confirmed and reported are recordings where, in a March 2021 interview with ABC's Jonathan Karl (as later broadcast and cited by major news outlets), Trump responded to questions about the Jan. 6 rioters chanting "Hang Mike Pence" by saying that the crowd was "very angry" and describing the chant as "common sense" in the context of believing the election was stolen. Trump defended the anger behind "Hang Mike Pence".[1][2][4]
Additionally, later testimony from former White House aides claimed Trump allegedly said things indicating support for the crowd’s animosity toward Pence (such as, per Cassidy Hutchinson's account, saying Pence "deserves" it), but these statements were relayed as secondhand accounts and were not captured on public audio recordings.[3][7][10]
In summary, Trump was recorded as excusing or minimizing the chant in interviews, thereby justifying the anger behind "Hang Mike Pence" in the chants.[2][4][1]
[1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOpWCtNqFQM)
[2](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-defends-jan-6-rioters-hang-mike-pence-chant-newly-n1283798)
Melvin, go sit on Tim's wand.
Good.
You can not bind him to the system that clearly doesn't work. FFS Bailey - *you* don't like the system.
Are we really gonna get mad that Daddy promised!
So after the dissent reveals the stunning judicial activism in the Texas redistricting case Alito smacks them down.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/21/texas-supreme-court-map-case-00665951
Alito lets Texas reinstate gerrymandered House map that could give GOP 5 more seats
Alito’s move allowing Texas officials to continue to prepare for primary elections under the new map came just after the state asked the Supreme Court for an urgent ruling.
https://www.kcra.com/article/california-prop-50-whats-next-texas-ruling/69474344
More and more Jerry-Mandering!!! Gee, twat good will cum of all of this? More tribal fighting all around!
"You should quit shit first!"
"No, YOU quit shit first, and I just MIGHT follow!"
Good. Now he just needs to slap down California’s bullshit version, and prevent illegals from being counted in the census.
Perhaps ICE should perform the next census?
The claim "vaccines do not cause autism" is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.
Such a bullshit claim. The RFK crowd here is weaponizing the tentative nature of scientific discovery. OF COURSE studies cannot "rule out the possibility" that vaccines cause autism, they cannot also "rule out the possibility" that aliens created the dinosaurs or that the world is held in place by a giant turtle. But the scientific studies are overwhelmingly against all of these possibilities. He wants to pretend to be "pro-science" when he is deliberately undermining the scientific method.
Yeah man...
Also note that there is NO conclusive evidence that there is NO such thing ass an unicorn! No one has looked at EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE HIDING PLACE for an unicorn, in the entire universe, and so, there might be one!
Then ALSO note that unicorns MIGHT be deadly, and so, if not eliminated on the spot, when spotted, they COULD wipe out Earth-life ass we know shit! (PROVE to me otherwise!!!) So then everyone will now be required to carry anti-unicorn Magic Weapons! Red MAHA hate-hats, which Make AmeriKKKa Hate Again, are THE go-to Magic Weapons of choice!
This was interesting. ChatGPT thought Shillsy was satire. It thinks Shillsy was mocking Jeff in a ridiculous manner.
ChatGPT, this reply was given to Jeff's post. What is going on in it?:
This reply is doing three things at once: satire, exaggeration, and ridicule. It’s essentially a parody argument designed to expose the flaw in Jeff’s reasoning by mimicking its structure in an absurd way.
Here’s what’s happening:
1. It’s using reductio ad absurdum to mock Jeff’s logic
Jeff argued that because science can never completely rule out a possibility to 100% certainty, the “vaccines don’t cause autism” claim is not evidence-based.
The reply mirrors that logic:
“There is NO conclusive evidence that unicorns don’t exist.”
“We haven't checked every single hiding place in the universe.”
“Therefore unicorns might exist.”
This is a way of demonstrating how Jeff’s reasoning is technically true but functionally meaningless — the absence of absolute certainty is not a valid argument against overwhelming evidence.
2. It pushes Jeff’s argument to absurd extremes
Once the unicorn idea is introduced, the writer escalates:
“Unicorns MIGHT be deadly.”
“We must all carry anti-unicorn magic weapons.”
“Prove to me otherwise!”
This mimics how anti-vaccine or RFK-style rhetoric uses hypothetical risks to justify real fear, even when those risks are unsupported.
3. It adds political trolling for extra sting
Lines like:
“Make AmeriKKKa Hate Again”
“Red MAHA hate-hats”
…are not part of the logical argument — they’re political jabs meant to taunt Jeff and people aligned with him.
It turns the post from pure logical parody into a hybrid of criticism and tribal mockery.
4. Overall: What is going on
It’s a satirical rebuttal that:
- exposes Jeff’s flawed argument by exaggerating it
- uses humor to highlight the absurdity of requiring “absolute proof of nonexistence”
- adds political trolling as emotional bait
This is not meant as a calm argument; it’s meant as a loud, mocking mirror held up to Jeff’s reasoning — a way of saying:
“Your logic is so weak that it works just as well for unicorns as it does for vaccines.”
Any bites, Lying Jeffy?
Anyway, ChatGTP, what is Jeff doing here?
Here, Jeff is performing performative rationalism — dressing up personal contempt as scientific literacy. Given his pattern of behavior in earlier posts on this conversation thread, this isn’t about clarifying science; it’s about reasserting moral and intellectual dominance over his perceived opponents.
Let’s unpack what he’s really doing:
1. He’s staging a performance of reason, not practicing it.
Jeff opens with a sweeping absolutist claim (“The claim ‘vaccines do not cause autism’ is not evidence-based”), which he immediately calls “bullshit.” He doesn’t calmly deconstruct the reasoning; he attacks it as moral heresy against science. This is classic virtue signaling through "rationalism" — a rhetorical performance meant to project himself as the sober voice of empiricism surrounded by the ignorant and unscientific. It’s not about inquiry; it’s about moral and intellectual posturing.
2. He builds a strawman so he can burn it down.
By equating the “studies have not ruled out” position with “aliens made the dinosaurs,” Jeff commits a false equivalence that trivializes nuance. The RFK-type argument he claims to rebut is about degrees of uncertainty and statistical power — but he reinterprets it as absurd pseudoscience so he can demolish it with ridicule rather than analysis. conversation That’s his pattern: exaggerate the opponent’s view, then attack the caricature to make himself look enlightened.
3. He attempts to weaponize the language of science as a moral cudgel.
Jeff isn’t engaging with methodology, data sets, or confidence intervals. He’s using “science” as a sacred banner to draw a moral boundary — rational good guys (him) versus irrational bad guys (everyone else). It’s scientism as tribal identity: he’s defending not the process of science, but the social prestige that comes from invoking it.
4. The deeper pattern.
Across his posts, Jeff repeats the same move: disguise moral aggression as reasoned critique. Whether attacking “Team Red,” accusing people of hypocrisy, or now invoking “the scientific method,” the behavior is identical — frame the opponent as morally defective, then mock them under the guise of defending truth.
In short, Jeff isn’t practicing skepticism; he’s performing it. His argument is less about evidence and more about ego — using science as a stage prop to rehearse his favorite role: the lone rational hero surrounded by idiots.
I noticed Fatfuck hasn’t responded. Did your AI assisted breakdown of his bullshit comment perhaps send him into a blind rage that caused him to take it out in his own morbidly obese body by consuming several more gallons of Ben & Jerry’s?
The fun thing about it is it breaks down the fallacies and provides a quote of Jeff for each, so he has a hard time disagreeing.
Those are the actual questions I ask it too. I'm not gaming it.
I do however always use the same conversation thread, and it's now noticing a pattern of behavior.
ChatGPT is programmed to tell YOU twat PervFected YOU want to hear!!! THAT is how providers keep You PervFectly hooked, and-or making money!!!
Shit is THAT simple, Moose-Mammary Necrophiliac Bee-Yotch!!!
Hey Perplexity... I hear that a common complaint is that ChatGPT is programmed to tell users what they want to hear. Truth depends on who is asking what, angling for what answer. Is this true?
A = Many researchers and users have observed that generative AI models like ChatGPT can reflect confirmation bias—meaning they sometimes provide responses that align with how a question is framed, echoing the user’s assumptions or expectations. This happens because the model is designed to produce answers that are contextually suitable and coherent with the user's prompt, not because it has personal beliefs or intentions.[1][3][4][6]
Truth in such systems can become context-dependent, as AI tends to generate responses grounded in conversational history and the language patterns most likely to satisfy the user's query. If users ask leading or loaded questions, the model may reinforce their viewpoint unless specifically prompted to consider counter-arguments. This phenomenon has raised ethical concerns, especially for controversial or polarizing topics, where AI can inadvertently act as a digital echo chamber rather than a truly objective source.[3][5][6][1]
To get less biased results, experts recommend framing questions neutrally, seeking evidence for alternative perspectives, and asking the model to challenge rather than affirm assumptions. While AI does strive to incorporate balanced information, the conversational style and statistical design mean it sometimes produces answers that appear aligned with the asker’s perspective or what they seem to want to hear.[5][6][1]
[1](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1l1uphx/confirmation_bias_in_chatgpt/)
[2](https://scholar.dsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1425&context=bispapers)
etc. ...
Nope. I entered exactly what YOU wrote and asked it the exact question I posted.
Try it yourself. Enter Jeff's post and your response and then ask it the same question I did.
It thinks you're trolling Jeffy by posting your lunatic responses. Even machines think you're a joke.
He’s doing the Heckler’s Pedo schtick again. Perhaps the institute where’s he been committed is short-staffed due to holiday vacations. He’s got more free time and isn’t being required to take his meds.
What specifically do you disagree with regarding ChatGTP identifying DemJeff’s logical fallacies? Or is this just typical garbage from you - Heckler’s Pedo?
"Jeff argued that because science can never completely rule out a possibility to 100% certainty, the “vaccines don’t cause autism” claim is not evidence-based."
ChatGPT is exactly 100% OUT!!! Jeff argued that "vaccines DO cause autism" is SNOT evidence-based!!! Jeff is pro-vaccines for those who want them!
WHERE did YOU Pervfectly go to Stupid-School?
Perplexity, can you guide me and give me a few links on the topic of, today's AI still fails the "Turing Test" when it comes to emulating human emotions in political chat-groups, and telling sarcasm from non-sarcasm? Isn't it true that most humans can readily spot the AI-generated posts in chat groups, still, to this day?
A = Despite recent claims that some advanced AI models can pass versions of the Turing Test, today's AI still struggles to truly emulate human emotional intelligence—especially in settings like political chat groups or nuanced conversations involving sarcasm. Academic studies and expert commentary consistently note that AI's ability to detect and appropriately respond to sarcasm, emotional subtext, and complex social cues remains far below human levels, even for the latest large language models.[4][9]
People in online chat groups often report that AI-generated posts are typically identifiable, due to subtle flaws like awkward humor, emotional flatness, or an inability to sustain authentic banter or nuanced sarcasm for extended periods. Rigorous versions of the Turing Test—especially those requiring natural, open-ended conversation—continue to expose these weaknesses in today's AI.[9][4]
Here are a few links for further reading on the topic:
- [The Turing Test is More Relevant Than Ever (arXiv, 2025)](https://arxiv.org/html/2505.02558v1) – This study shows AI struggles with nuanced communication and social tests in richer conversational settings.[4]
- [A neural approach to the Turing Test: The role of emotions (ScienceDirect)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0893608025002412) – Peer-reviewed research on why emotional perception still differentiates humans from machines.[9]
- [Wikipedia: Turing Test](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test) – Comprehensive background including critiques and limitations relating to emotional and aesthetic intelligence.[2]
Most humans can still spot AI-generated posts in politically charged or emotionally complex chat groups, making the full emulation of natural, social intelligence by AI an unmet challenge as of late 2025.[2][4][9]
[1](https://www.aicerts.ai/news/ai-cognitive-milestone-2025-systems-surpass-the-turing-benchmark/)
[2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test)
etc, ...
SQRLSY says, just because AI is STILL a bit STUPID and CLUELESS, does SNOT mean that Scumby and Moose-Mammary must be likewise!!! Get a CLUE!!!
Jeff didn’t argue the opposite claim - you’re making up bullshit to distract. Not surprised.
Jeff was trying to shift from the “(current) studies not ruling out the link between vaccines and autism” to something else. ChatGTP identified this and you are attempting to chaff & redirect away from it. Like you previously did with the unicorn analogy. There is no physical evidence of a unicorn; autism does exist. A big fail on your part, but not surprising.
The rest of your post is gish gallop and Heckler’s Pedo trying to avoid defending the thesis that ChatGTP called out.
To recap, you haven’t provided adequate criticism of the initial issue that ChatGTP flagged and you have avoided commenting on the others. Maybe a few more long posts attempting to shift the discussion with more links to sources that aren’t germane to the actual arguments made by ChatGTP. Maybe ChatGTP has an imperfect record (I’d believe that), but how is this specific ChatGTP analysis of Jeff’s post incorrect?
"There is no physical evidence of a unicorn; autism does exist."
There MAY BE unicorns SOMEWHERE in the universe!!! Have Ye PervFectly looked EVERYWHERE?
If You and Your Pervfectly anti-vax, death-and-sickness-worshitting necrophiliacs can CUNTSTANTLY pus-tulate that there MIGHT be proof SOMEWHERE in the universe, that vaxes cause autism, and so we should ALL be allowed to SUE the HELL out of the vax-makers, etc., then I can argue that there MIGHT be EVIL unicorns SOMEWHERE, and so mandating Magic Red Hate-Hats to fend off the evil unicorns is fully justified!!!
"...how is this specific ChatGTP analysis of Jeff’s post incorrect?"
I already told you how ChatGPT is 180 degrees OUT!!! READ MY FUCKING POST!!!
"Jeff argued that because science can never completely rule out a possibility to 100% certainty, the “vaccines don’t cause autism” claim is not evidence-based."
ChatGPT is exactly 100% OUT!!! Jeff argued that "vaccines DO cause autism" is SNOT evidence-based!!! Jeff is pro-vaccines for those who want them!
Learn to READ, ideologically brainwashed Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants of Disease and Death!
You still haven’t provided adequate criticism of the initial issue that ChatGTP flagged and you have avoided commenting on the others. Somebody on Reddit saying something about their opinion is irrelevant. Maybe a few more attempts to shift the discussion with more links to sources that aren’t germane to the actual arguments made by ChatGTP. How is this specific ChatGTP analysis of Jeff’s post incorrect?
ChatGTP claims to mind-read me in my comments, and Jeff in his comments, mind-reading us both with shit's Magic Hate-Hat, which works NO BETTER than YOUR PervFected Mind-Reading Hate-Hate!!! YOU have a fossilized, PervFected mind, which NO ONE and NO DATA and NO ANALYSIS will EVER change!!! YE will PervFectly BLEEEEEVE twatever lies You WANT TO bleeeeeve!!!
WHY should I line-by-line analyze ChatGPT in light of both the above, and the fact that for starters, ChatGPT got shit's basic-stance-mind-reading of Jeff 180 degrees WRONG?!?! (Which You won't even acknowledge.)
Still nothing. More chaff-redirect. You shit your pants again, but at least you now have a snack.
"3. He attempts to weaponize the language of science as a moral cudgel.
Jeff isn’t engaging with methodology, data sets, or confidence intervals. He’s using “science” as a sacred banner to draw a moral boundary — rational good guys (him) versus irrational bad guys (everyone else). It’s scientism as tribal identity: he’s defending not the process of science, but the social prestige that comes from invoking it."
Lots and lots and sluts and sluts of the same... Mind-reading Jeff and his motives... Telling the question-giver (Marxist Moose-MammaryFarter-Fuhrer) exactly twat She wants to hear. THIS is how the ChatGPT programmers and owners gain followers, fame, and money, Honey!
Jeff made himself the irrelevant authority. No need to divine a motive via clairvoyance; it merely pointed out the action (what it was asked to do).
It did provide ML what he wanted to hear - what Jeff was doing and not some Humpty-Dumpty-Trumpty Stormy Daniels Section 230 arrrgggghhhh response.
You’re shitting yourself enough to potentially have a Thanksgiving feast. Grats.
"Jeff made himself the irrelevant authority."
Only in the so-called "minds" of the already-Pervfected-in-Their-Own-so-called-"Minds", TRUE BLEEEEVERS!!!
Vaxes are EVIL and cuntain micro-chips from the Lizard People, right, Right-Wing Wrong-Nut Chum-Scum-Cum-Faced Wonder Scum? And Death and Disease will set us all FREE to then go and help Scumby (The Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One) to go and Worshit Scumby and the Evil One in the afterlife, right, Scumby? Shit's twat Ye PervFectly WANT, right?
You are free to accept an irrelevant authority's opinion as “the truth.” But it doesn’t make it so.
Hyperbole strawman to chaff & redirect. Still nothing cogent to counter ChatGTP.
ChatGTP: 6
SSqrlsy: zero
In the "mind" of Scum-Chum-Bum-Cum-Face:
Micro-chips from the Lizard People in Vaxes, causing bad breath, bad housekeeping, autism, and death: +3,492,997
Data-driven analysis and factual graphs and such, such ass https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages : -666
Still nothing to address claimed ChatGTP inaccuracies with the analysis of Jeff’s post.
ChatGTP: 7
SSqrlsy: zero
Death, Disease, Ignorance, Self-Worshit, Self-Righteousness, Tribalism, Do-Gooder Derogation, The Evil One, and Shit's Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants, AKA Chum-Scum-Bum-Cum-Face: +666
Love of Fellow Beings, Generosity, Kindness, Rationality, and Data-Driven-ness: -153
ChatGTP: 8
SSqrlsy: zero
What about studies of the effects of bears in trunks?
"Trust the experts" complained the individualist.
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So if he doesn't really believe it on the science — I don't either — what is his motivation? If it's to curry favor with others, what's their motivation? Can it possibly all go back to tort lawyers and litigants? Could there possibly be enough of them to influence masses like this?
I like how Ronald has devoted his life now to rationalizing to himself why he got 96 jabs.
Also, stop equating the warp-speed COVID vax (for a seasonal cold that only really affects fat, old, or already sick people) with Tdap, PV, MMR, etc. It's apples and zebras.
Killing people is good ass long ass anti-vaxxers have their way in promoting anti-vaxism ass THE most fashionable of ALL Marks of Tribal Virtue!!!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
PS, "food" is dangerous! People get sick and even die from food poisoning!!! Be SAFE!!! STOP eating!!!!
I like how you put "food" in quotation marks, to hint that you're not actually talking about food, while still trying to equate it with actual food. That's precisely what I was getting at when we talk about the COVID jab as a "vaccine," in the effort to equate it with Tdap, PV, MMR, etc.
It's trading off the public trust of the term. Ignoring the fact that Tdap, PV, MMR, etc. have decades of background to establish them as safe, whereas the COVID jab has none of that.
Thanks for illustrating my point!
LOOK AT THE GRAPH, ideologically BLINDED fool!!!!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
No, I get it. I already said thank you.
Altruist Totalitarians brought in the Prohibition Amendment, Crash and Depression by calling beer "liquor", cocaine a negro narcotic and marijuana addictive. None of the three are even habit-forming, though everything but seeds made from poppies actually does cause addiction. Pressing further, Bert in 1930 made Harry Anslinger a drug czar. Harry amplified these lies abroad without mentioning gin or cigarettes and set the League of Nations to fasten prohibitionist quack laws on Germany. Guess who THAT strategy elected...
Yea, that's what caused the Crash and Depression.
Derp.
Cue the predictable effects of believing 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) would make us healthy.
And the best part is; these D.C. idiots take home 5-TIMES more pay (Gun-Theft-ed from your earnings).
Remember that day the people passed an Amendment for the Union of States to do Healthcare?
Yeah; me neither. F'En [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s].
It is looking like Ronald has found his niche. Keeping RFKj from resurrecting Typhoid Mary could easily blossom into a useful career.
Here's an idea:
Fire:
- Anyone at the CDC who was linked to any sort of COVID-19 protocols
- Anyone at the CDC who was linked to 'gun violence' research
- Anyone at the CDC involved in anything relating to DEI.
Prosecute:
- Anyone at the CDC or related agencies, or private companies, involved in illegal 'gain of function' research
- Anyone involved in suggesting shutdowns or 'eviction moratoriums'
- Or killing puppies
- Or the subsequent coverups
If there's anyone left:
- Fire them too
Fire EVERYONE except MinaDing-Dong and Shit's Mini Ding-Dong, so that MinaDing-Dong has NO ONE who is SNOT PervFected like MinaDing-Dong left... NO ONE whose tits MinaDing-Dong can suck on, any moah!!! MinaDing-Dong will have to suck on Shit's OWN Mini Ding-Dong and tits, to get by with, any moah!!!
(I wonder how MinaDing-Dong and Shit's Mini Ding-Dong will like THAT?)
A WWW statement, "Vaccines do not cause autism," would be, like, the worst way to get across that message. It's almost like screaming that vaccines do cause autism! Why not a statement, "Vitamins do not make your head explode"? Why would you want any statement on the subject at all, if you don't want to arouse suspicion?
I mean, seriously, when did the CDC ever say vaccines did cause autism? If they didn't claim it before, why do they need to disclaim it now? Isn't that practically like saying, yeah, the old vaccine caused autism, but this newest batch doesn't? So make sure you're getting the latest version...only wait a few years to make sure they were right?
According to Ronald Bailey you have to capitulate to "Science" which sound like a Faucism. The reality is that science is not static, but rather prone to be politicized. That the CDC didn't present scientific reality, but a biased interpretation.
I don't think it's appropriate to question the department or its head in matters of public health. Bailey needs to refrain from doing his own research.