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Is Marjorie Taylor Greene's Break With Trump the Beginning of the End for MAGA?

She's praised Nancy Pelosi, said Republicans aren't doing enough to make things affordable, and is generally making a lot of sense. That's weird, but also good.

Steven Greenhut | 11.21.2025 7:30 AM

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The first Trump administration was fairly restrained, as it included plenty of old-school Republican adults in key positions. They kept the QAnon types and other crazies at bay. But the January 6 riots and Donald Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election gave a preview of tawdry things to come. His second term doesn't even try to conceal that it's based on the Idiocracy screenplay.

It's easy to get dispirited by America's political death spiral given that the MAGA faithful remain devoted to their leader no matter what new evidence emerges. They accuse critics—even those making calm, policy-oriented critiques—of suffering from a medical condition (Trump Derangement Syndrome). I'm more inclined to believe adherence to Trump's grievance-based movement is a condition. Like with all viruses, there are signs this one might someday break.

For evidence, I offer none other than Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.). Until recently, most pundits have viewed Greene as the epitome of what's gone wrong with the modern GOP, where there are "no enemies on the right" and conspiracy theories are as relevant as rationally based ones. Even some Trump-friendly writers have rolled their eyes at her statements.

Two years before her election, Greene posted her infamous Facebook comments about space lasers. Remarking on California's wildfires, she wrote, "[O]ddly there are all these people who have said they saw what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires." She referenced Rothschild Inc. and Jerry Brown and speculated about space solar generators. "Could that cause a fire? Hmmm, I don't know. I hope not!"

As The New York Times reported in 2021, Greene "has repeatedly claimed in multiple videos and social media posts that several school shooting massacres were 'false flag' events perpetrated by government officials in an attempt to drum up support for gun control laws." She's described Democrats as pedophiles, and initially blamed left-wingers for the Capitol insurrection.

In Congress, she childishly heckled President Joe Biden. Greene has continued to offer meteorological opinions, remarking after Hurricane Helene in 2024 that some unspecified "they" control the weather. A Google search will yield many of her unusual opinions and behaviors. In past days, such opinions would hamper one's political career, but in this bizarre new world, they seem to have greatly bolstered it.

"She has managed in just two years in Congress to accumulate real power, landing on important committees, and influencing the direction of Republican policies," explained CBS News' Leslie Stahl in the preamble to her 60 Minutes interview with Greene in 2023. Since then, she's made headlines for controversial opinions about Ukraine and Russia, and has accused the Israelis of "genocide."

Yet this is where the story gets interesting. In recent comments, Greene has sounded like one of the GOP's more statesmanlike members. After former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) announced her retirement from Congress, Trump said: "The retirement of Nancy Pelosi is a great thing for America" and accused Pelosi of being "evil" and "corrupt." Trump's usual incivility roused the MAGA faithful.

But here's what Greene had to say: "I served under her speakership in my first term of Congress, and I'm very impressed at her ability to get things done. I wish we could get things done for our party, like Nancy Pelosi was able to deliver for her party." That's a striking turnabout for someone who once liked an online comment saying "a bullet to the head would be quicker" to remove Pelosi from power. And this wasn't just a one-off case of normalcy.

Here Greene goes again, sounding rather normal: "The cost of health care is killing people. That should be the top issue. Cost of living, electrical bills haven't gone down, they've gone up. They're dramatically higher, cost of food has gone up." This has earned her strange new respect from some progressives, and the opprobrium of Trump, who says "she's lost her way."

At press time, Greene has called for the release of more Jeffrey Epstein files. Trump has been repeatedly criticizing her, which has led Greene to accuse the president of fueling threats against her. This is blowing up into a huge intra-MAGA fight, with the congresswoman seeming to get the upper hand. Many commentators figure it's her latest shtick as she possibly prepares for a run for Georgia's Senate seat. Who knows?

But it's clear some right-wing voices are straying from the New Right orthodoxy. Writer Rod Dreher, a friend of Vice President J.D. Vance who is known for his harsh critiques of liberal democracy, penned a recent piece that warns: "Anti-Semitism is spreading like a virus among religious conservatives of the Zoomer generation." This is not a "fringe movement," he adds, and it "cannot be negotiated with, because it doesn't have traditional demands. It wants to burn the whole system down."

I find the current state of political affairs—from the right's dalliance with racists and anti-Semites to the left's embrace of open socialists—hard to fathom and more than a little worrisome. So perhaps I'm grasping at straws, but when the virus breaks for some of these once-outlying characters, then maybe there's hope for the rest of the country.

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  1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    It's a good thing when MAGA people start supporting [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism].
    i.e. ?Affordable? Healthcare, Living, etc ... by/ Gov - 'Guns'?

    You're no libertarian.

    "strange new respect from some progressives, and the opprobrium of Trump, who says 'she's lost her way.'"

    Trump is the libertarian.
    'Guns' (Gov-Guns) don't make sh*t! Get it through your criminal heads.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      '...*standard* narratives at reason.'

      Fixed.

  2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    MTG is arguing with trump, time to elevate her! She's the new Cheney. - retarded leftist narratives at reason.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Reason doesn’t mind getting plowed by MTG with a strap-on Dunker.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      She has a break with Trump (who is extremely thin skinned about perceived disloyalty) on a prominent issues and now she is no longer one of the worst idiots in Congress. Odd, how that works.

      1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        If only Congress would support Universal Healthcare and Universal Basic Income they wouldn't be such idiots! /s

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Rachel Maddow was in attendance at Dick Cheney’s funeral……..

      1. Benitacanova   2 months ago

        I thought she didn't like Dick...

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          You think she prefers Bush?

          1. diver64   2 months ago

            Both of these comments are gold, Jerry. Gold!

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Well, there was Bush there.

    4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Are you getting the impression that Reason has joined Journolist?

  3. diver64   2 months ago

    Still wish casting? Let's talk about the real implosion of the Democrat Party who now supports islamist communists, domestic terrorists and Nazi's. MTG is an opportunist who is on her way out of Congress and knows it. Dems love her now because they love anyone that criticizes Trump.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      They also support child predators despite their best redactions.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        If “The List” does drop unredacted, they won’t like it. Biden and Otto Penn could have released it. They (D)idn’t.

    2. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

      Dems have their paw in the hole of the coconut again. In 2016, before Gary picked Bill--instead of a nazi MAGAt or boothead clown--and covered the gap in 13 states casting 127 electoral votes, the Dems had hold of a fistful of Nixon/George Wallace/Obama prohibitionism and lost. Today weed is legal in half the Reich thanks to Gary. Dems NOW clutch seeds of Luddite plans to ban electricity because Sharknado Warmunist Bozone Holes. The Don's Turd Sandwich now seeks to legalize nuclear energy while the Jesus Caucus Trojan Hearse seeks to ban birth control. Pick the lewsers!

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Do you understand that your phrasing is tantamount to gibberish? Are you incapable of writing a straightforward cogent sentence?

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      They democrats don’t just SUPPORT domestic terrorists. They ARE domestic terrorists.

  4. Chumby   2 months ago

    …said Republicans aren't doing enough to make things affordable…

    Govt shouldn’t be attempting that at all beyond shrinking its size and influence. End all govt funding of welfare, education, health insurance, and foreign nations.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      Left unsaid is the assumption that Democrats are doing something about affordability other than driving it out of reach.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Reason has gone all in on Kleins abundance narrative even after Obama and Biden. It is amazing.

  5. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    "They accuse critics—even those making calm, policy-oriented critiques—of suffering from a medical condition (Trump Derangement Syndrome). I'm more inclined to believe adherence to Trump's grievance-based movement is a condition. Like with all viruses, there are signs this one might someday break."

    Ah, the famous "I know you are but what am I?" gambit.

  6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    Ah, yes, Libertarians for More Government Interference in the Market, AKA Libertarians for Nancy Pelosi

    What a joke this rag is become

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      I heard that the WaPo is becoming libertarian.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Freedom from consequences and responsibility is the most important freedom.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          The Dems did that first.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "I heard that the WaPo is becoming libertarian"

        I thought the WaPo was always in favour of food trucks, open borders and ass sex?
        I mean maybe they're a bit wonky on legalized drugs and prostitution, but I don't think that disqualifies them, and isn't that all true "libertarianism" is about?

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          There have been no crime incidents at the WaPo cocktail parties, thus DC is safe.

      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        And Robby came out of the closet, as a conservative.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Does Chase know?

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            He was right behind him.

  7. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    How it is it that smart fellers like Greenhut don't realize that populism includes Trump, but isn't because of Trump?

    Trump has a tiger by the tail, but Greenhut wants to talk about the decor of the coliseum.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      He knows, but he's paid not to say things. Real journalisming.

  8. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    Don't you tedious TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit ever look in a mirror?
    It's 'the beginning of the end', 'the walls are closing in', it's the tipping point'.
    Fuck off and die, asshole.

  9. Rick James   2 months ago

    In Congress, she childishly heckled President Joe Biden.

    Wait, stop right there...

  10. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

    "She's praised Nancy Pelosi... and is generally making a lot of sense. That's weird, but also good"

    Hahahahahaha... Go fuck your hat, Greenhut, you discount DNC shill.

  11. Rick James   2 months ago

    You know, I don't follow Margorie Taylor Greene very closely, but Mr. Greenhut, you're basically proving the TDS diagnosis. The "split between MAGA and Trump" is because MAGA (such as it is) feels that Trump is moving too much to the center and away from America First principles. So as Trump becomes a more 'doctrinaire' president, you're essentially siding with MAGA... but because you're so blinded by hatred for Trump, you strategically and reluctantly support MTG.

  12. Rick James   2 months ago

    But it's clear some right-wing voices are straying from the New Right orthodoxy. Writer Rod Dreher, a friend of Vice President J.D. Vance who is known for his harsh critiques of liberal democracy, penned a recent piece that warns: "Anti-Semitism is spreading like a virus among religious conservatives of the Zoomer generation." This is not a "fringe movement," he adds, and it "cannot be negotiated with, because it doesn't have traditional demands. It wants to burn the whole system down."

    I find the current state of political affairs—from the right's dalliance with racists and anti-Semites to the left's embrace of open socialists—hard to fathom and more than a little worrisome. So perhaps I'm grasping at straws, but when the virus breaks for some of these once-outlying characters, then maybe there's hope for the rest of the country.

    Are you a teenager? Do you not have any memory of politics Before Twitter? The left's "open embrace of socialists" like this is something that popped up 20 minutes ago? FFS, Greenhut...

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      And no mention of the left's open embrace racism and anti-semitism?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...racism and antisemitism..."

        Got re-labeled as "DEI" and "Pro-Palestinian". New names, same stink.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "Anti-Semitism is spreading like a virus among religious conservatives of the Zoomer generation"

      Anti-Semitism is spreading like a virus among atheistic progressives of the Zoomer to Boomer generations, one hundredfold over "rEliGoUs cOnsErVatiVEs", you blame-shifting thrift store politruk.

      It's not Christian religious conservatives who broke the windows of Jewish businesses and assaulted Jews on the streets of New York and Chicago, who attacked synagogues in London, who made up lies about a genocide in Gaza, who seized the main roads in major cities across the West chanting slogans that would have made Goebbels blush.

      That was all you. The Democrats, the progressives, the Boomer liberals all hopped up on MSNBC. A handful of idiots and Groyper kids saying mean things about Israel on the internet is not worse, or even equivalent.

      What garbage you are, Greenhut. What slime.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

        +1

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        You will never get honesty out of a Reason columnist. They’re not much different than Rolling Stone or Vox anymore.

  13. SMP0328   2 months ago

    No matter how much The Left hates you, all you have to do is renounce Orange Man Bad and you will be forgiven by them; such is the level of hatred they have for him. The Left considered Dick Cheney a war criminal, principally because of the Iraq War, but they suddenly considered him a great man when he endorsed Kamala Harris last year. MTG was considered a nut by The Left, but they started treating her with respect once she no longer got along with Trump.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "such is the level of hatred they have for him. "

      Don't get in the way of the grift. It's that easy. Greenhut's paymaster Koch is one of those grifter's.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Koch gives Greenhut a gold star? Oh wait.

    2. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

      Nazi SIMP here repeats the same screed that got Hitler elected. Mystical conservative MGGAts wanted girl-bullying Kristianity while ANTIFA commies wanted to nationalize turd sammiches . Hitler welcomed dupes who hated individual rights and economic freedom alike and told them they were BOTH good totalitarians. Two (LeftanRite) of the other three squares in the Nolan diagram kinda sorta bought into the No Rights No Freedom caucus. Concentration camps were all over Germany by late 1933--like Texas today!

      1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        Remember all those bullying Kristianity laws Trump passed?
        Yeah; me neither. UR completely F O S.

  14. AT   2 months ago

    She is and always has been a alt-right AOC/Jasmine Crockett in the first place. Everything about her was too scripted, too fake - all just riding on DJT's coattails, until she had enough political capital to break away without risking everything.

    She's a sham - like Crockett. And a retard - like AOC. And I've been saying it since her first public appearance.

    1. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

      Altruist Totalitarian shirley knows more about sham retards than just about anything

      1. AT   2 months ago

        They're easy to spot.

        You, for example. Your online persona. You're not even trying to be a real person. You're a theater kid playing a role.

  15. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    MTG is a hater. She will be back to sucking off Trump soon enough.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      She’s currently the darling of the left. Lots of appearances on democrat networks like CNN. Who is now slobbering all over her because she’s useful. Just like when you did that with Liz Cheney.

      Oh, and did you see that your pal Rachel Maddow was at Dick Cheney’s funeral? Hilarious.

  16. Truthteller1   2 months ago

    MAGA is another term rendered useless by regime media, used by both sides to mean whatever they want it to mean. In any event the movement that brought Trump back into office will never cease to exist, it embodies liberal and conservative issues that are nearly universally mainstream.

  17. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    Yes you are grasping at straws and no, there is no hope for America. The right has strayed from orthodoxy before, only to peter out and losing their way again. The current right is just as bad, although in a different direction on some issues, as the left is. Polarization is swinging wildly out of control, but all in the same direction: authoritarianism, scapegoating and violence. Greene's sudden attack of apparent sanity notwithstanding, nothing important is going to change any time soon.

    1. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "there is no hope for America"

      It's a bit premature. Maybe the Republican Party splits into two or more opposing parties. (See the history of the Tory party in Britain in the 1800s, when it split over issues of trade and Ireland.) Big deal, life goes on.

    2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      De-Regulation, Tax-Cuts, Abolished Agencies =/= authoritarianism.

      Trump has made some mistakes but the way he is accused for everything in attempting to end the Nazi-Empire really just explains/excuses practically every mistake he has made.

      i.e. If you're going to accuse Trump every-time he tries to shut-down the gov 'gun' stealing spigot don't be surprised when he takes a share instead.

  18. mtrueman   2 months ago

    "and has accused the Israelis of "genocide.""

    If she doesn't want to be Tuckerized she's got to learn to remind us all of Israel's sacred right to defend itself, make vague accusations of anti-semitism, and leave it at that.

    Taylor Greene takes her populism seriously. I never followed her or took her seriously and assumed that she was a run o the mill corporate stooge and her pro working class sentiments were a sham. But apparently, they are real. Hats off, Ms. Taylor Greene. Score one for integrity.

  19. DesigNate   2 months ago

    Sorry, when the Dem media starts stroking someone on the right’s feathers (especially someone they hated just months ago), it immediately sets off my warning bells.

    When someone campaigns with Trump all over the country, where he made no bones about his plans in regards to illegal immigration, then gets all ass blasted when those policies directly affect her, they start ringing louder.

    Oh, and her blatant anti-Israel/anyi-semitism makes her a great fit with the Democrats.

    1. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "stroking someone on the right’s feathers"

      Maybe you should ask yourself if Taylor Greene is truly 'someone on the right,' or simply a politician who's been using the Republican brand because it's launched her career, and feels now she's outgrown it and ready to let her leftist freak flag fly.

      1. DesigNate   2 months ago

        That’s actually a fair point.

  20. spec24   2 months ago

    If your first paragraph is going to be filled with that much bullshit, what's the point on reading the rest.

  21. spec24   2 months ago

    You know, there's a reason the founding fathers wanted a small federal govt and a bunch of sovereign state, dumbasses.

  22. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

    Greene has what it takes to gag a MAGAt

  23. jabbermule   2 months ago

    Praising Nancy Pelosi and making sense are mutually exclusive phenomena, so pick one.

  24. Roberta   2 months ago

    Or...she's always been a nut, and continues to manifest it.

  25. shadydave   2 months ago

    At some point the Cato libertarians will realize that in an attempt to forge a "left libertarian alliance," the end result wasn't dragging the left in a more libertarian direction (as that's clearly not happened), it was having themselves dragged far more into a leftward direction.

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      ^THIS... Well Said +100000.

    2. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

      This is a great observation. This is the Mises/McArdle Mistake. Thinking we libertarians are a tugboat, when in fact we are a rubber ducky.

  26. AT   2 months ago

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-resigns-full-statement-donald-trump-b2870306.html

    I've always represented the common American man and woman as a member of the House of Representatives

    Point of fact, you're supposed to represent Georgia's 14th Congressional District. Not "the common American."

    The whole point of your job is that you represent a subset of circumscribed Americans in balance with all the other circumscribed subsets such that Congress can get a reasonable pulse on the varying interests.

    which is why I've always been despised in Washington DC and never fit in.

    Well, no, that's just because you're an insufferable dolt. Alt-Right AOC.

    During the longest shutdown in our nation's history, I raged against my own Speaker and my own party for refusing to proactively work diligently to pass a plan to save American healthcare and protect Americans from outrageous overpriced and unaffordable health insurance policies.

    Oh, so you're a prog. Got it.

    I've worked hard to bring tax payer dollars back home to help district needs

    Oh, so you're a prog. Got it.

    I have fought harder than almost any other elected Republican to elect Donald Trump and Republicans to power, traveling the country for years, spending millions of my own money, missing precious time with my family that I can never get back, and showing up in places like outside the New York Courthouse in Collect Pond Park against a raging leftist mob as Trump faced Democrat lawfare.

    Not... really... your job.

    Meanwhile most of the Establishment Republicans, who secretly hate him and who stabbed him in the back and never defended him against anything, have all been welcomed in after the election.

    I'm pretty sure he knows that and is looking for pragmatic solutions as opposed to partisan theater kid productions. (You're the partisan theater kid.)

    My poor father and my poor mother, it was way too much.

    K.

    Loyalty should be a two way street and we should be able to vote our conscience and represent our district's interest because our job title is literally, "Representative."

    You literally started this by saying that your interests were outside the whole federalist concept.

    With that has brought years of nonstop never ending personal attacks, death threats, lawfare, ridiculous slander and lies about me, that most people could never withstand even for a day.

    I mean, you got as good as you give, theater kid.

    I have too much self respect and dignity

    https://i.giphy.com/GpyS1lJXJYupG.webp

    only to fight and win my election while Republicans will likely lose the midterms.

    MSM Narrative Instruction, Mid-November 2025.

    Until then I'm going back to the people I love, to live life to the fullest as I always have, and look forward to a new path ahead.

    https://tinyurl.com/2tsza9hz

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