Florida Scrubs Arrests of U.S. Citizens From Immigration Enforcement Data
After the Miami New Times asked why nearly two dozen U.S. citizens showed up on a Florida immigration enforcement dashboard, those numbers disappeared.
A Florida immigration enforcement dashboard was quietly edited to remove evidence of arrests of U.S. citizens after a local media outlet asked about the arrests.
The Miami New Times reported on October 15 that data showing the arrests of nearly two dozen U.S. citizens disappeared from Florida's Suspected Unauthorized Alien Encounters dashboard, a database maintained by the Florida State Board of Immigration Enforcement.
The dashboard lists state and local police encounters with 5,966 suspected illegal immigrants since August 1. Of those, 3,052 were arrested on federal immigration charges by Florida state agencies. Another 1,753 people were arrested on local and state charges.
However, the New Times reported that the database used to show 21 U.S. citizens were arrested and charged. Additionally, nine other U.S. citizens had encounters with law enforcement but were not arrested.
"The New Times emailed the Florida State Board of Immigration Enforcement, DeSantis' office, and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) for an explanation," the publication wrote. "While we did not receive a response, the dashboard figures for U.S. citizen encounters and arrests changed significantly by the time of this reporting. The dashboard now shows there have been only two reported encounters with U.S. citizens, and only one citizen was arrested on local or state charges."
An October 10 Tampa Bay Times story also reported that the dashboard showed "at least two dozen" encounters with U.S. citizens.
As of today, October 24, the dashboard shows one encounter with a U.S. citizen and zero arrests.
The Florida State Board of Immigration Enforcement and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement did not respond to requests for comment.
Transparency advocates say Florida has cloaked its immigration enforcement operations in an unprecedented and sometimes illegal level of secrecy. For example, state contracts for Florida's controversial "Alligator Alcatraz" detention camp were removed from a public database and replaced with far less detailed documents after media outlets began writing about them this summer.
Records showing immigration stops and arrests of U.S. citizens are both a legal and public relations headache for the federal government and the State of Florida.
As President Donald Trump's mass deportation program has continued, more and more evidence of U.S. citizens being harassed, assaulted, and arrested during immigration enforcement operations has accumulated around the country. And despite the Trump administration's vehement denials that it is racially profiling suspects during immigration sweeps, ProPublica recently reported that it had tallied 170 cases of citizens being detained, almost all of them Latino. Lawsuits are piling up accordingly.
Thomas Kennedy, a policy analyst and consultant at the Florida Immigration Coalition, points to cases such as Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez, a U.S.-born citizen who was arrested in April under a Florida law that had been blocked by a federal judge earlier that month. He was then held in a county jail under a federal immigration detainer, despite his mother providing his birth certificate and a judge dismissing the charge against him—and despite Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) having no authority to detain a U.S. citizen.
"He was arrested doubly wrong," Kennedy says. "He was arrested under an immigration law that was not supposed to be enforced and that was not even applicable to him because he's a U.S. citizen."
"We know that U.S. citizens are being arrested in Florida right now because we see stories like this one that are super-suspect and a civil rights nightmare," Kennedy continues. "Then we see a dashboard put out by the state of Florida where they had like 30 arrests, and when the press gets a hold of it, that number drops to zero and there's no explanation given. I think that's weird."
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"Florida Scrubs Arrests of U.S. Citizens From Immigration Enforcement Data"
OR
Florida corrects Immigration Enforcement Data
Or, 'US citizens have mistaken arrest records expunged by state.'
Wait, are you trying to tell me Reason is writing an article in bad faith to bolster their political preference? Shocking.
My question is arrested or detained for an identification check. Would still get recorded in the latter. Maybe a reporter could find out.
I'm only about 30% convinced that there isn't an explanation for every last one of these arrests sitting in a "reporter's" inbox somewhere. I'm similarly only about 30% certain that it wasn't sitting there, unopened, before they went to print.
If you'd told me that any one or all of these papers filed an FOIA request *and* went to print before they got a reply. I'd believe it.
Just bend over and open wide and it won't hurt.
Boring troll is boring
The soros motto?
Don't go to sleep, I think I saw Soros hiding under your bed.
The dashboard lists state and local police encounters with 5,966 suspected illegal immigrants since August 1. Of those, 3,052 were arrested on federal immigration charges by Florida state agencies. Another 1,753 people were arrested on local and state charges.
However, the New Times reported that the database used to show 21 U.S. citizens were arrested and charged. Additionally, nine other U.S. citizens had encounters with law enforcement but were not arrested.
1. That's an 80% arrest rate with 99.5% specificity. National murder clearance rates are 60% or lower and lesser crimes go down from there. Maybe they should be focusing on more critical crimes, but that's not the argument you're making (poorly).
2. I know you're a fan of Hunter Biden's but, believe it or not citizens can act as foreign nationals and participate in illegal immigration and immigration/immigrant-related crimes. It would be dishonest and, more pointedly, specifically against equality and due process to simply assume otherwise.
Wait. So it was just encounters. Which includes not arrests. Whats the issue here? No, I didn't read the article because I could tell it was bullshit.
See? Crime is down!
I'm so old I remember when Libertarians would have been apoplectic if jack-booted state thugs were roaming around picking up citizens and detaining them. My how times have changed.
It happened some indeterminate amount of time after the Libertarians stopped complaining about the federal government abrogating their property rights and using their taxpayer money to force them to accept refugees into their town.
I'm a pretty open borders guy, but what the government had done in the last administration was a ridiculous perversion of the rights to exclude. And it was done in such a nefarious way that the only way to undue it was to round people up and send them home or just shrug and say "sorry, no way to remedy this injustice done to you, Mr American Citizen." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Temporary detainment was never an issue after the rise in crime in the mid 2000s. Even less after multiple riots.
The libertarians who understand property rights understand to have then protected, often there needs to be minimal interaction with state and citizens.
Excessive detainment has always been an issue, but not temporary.
A lot of the commenters here are straight up MAGA and not libertarian at all. It’s sad to see but I guess they have no choice but to foul up spaces that believe in free speech because no where else wants them.
Yep. If you don’t set your hair on fire at every little thing he does or you generally agree with the policy positions, even if you’ve been open about your stances for 20 years here, you’re just MAGA.
Fucking collectivist.
Wasn’t talking about you but if you generally agree with Trump’s policy positions you ARE MAGA and you’re DEFINITELY not a libertarian.
It’s not 2016 anymore where sure he was a stubborn loudmouth but still had a generally decent platform that still aligned with conservative values. Trump 2025 is socially conservative, fiscally liberal, completely disregards the political system, is anti free trade, seems to be pro war, ran on free speech but has actively degraded it, and has rapidly expanded the federal government’s power.
Which of those things are libertarian? It’s not even Reagan style moderate conservatism and somehow not even the alt right likes him. I wouldn’t have thought any of these things 9 months ago but if you still generally agree with his policy you’re MAGA.
That’s fine, it’s good for other viewpoints to be discussed here. Just don’t roleplay that you’re something you’re not.
^ cant figure out difference between libertarian and anarchist
If you disagree, please enlighten us on how Trump is a libertarian. I didn’t say anything about anarchy
It's depressingly easy to see the difference between Reason commenters and libertarians. (With apologies to the handful of actual libertarians who somehow got in here.)
Can’t edit my comment for some reason but to be clear you seem like a decently reasonable person and I’m not talking about you in my original comment. I’m talking about the people that don’t care about any of the principles Reason is about and just want to spew their own agendas.
Which principles?
The ones you wouldn't recognize if they bit you in the ass.
Horseshit. The comments are littered with people who will bend over so far backwards to defend Donnie's lies and crimes they end up with their head up their ass.
If youre not a Biden voting dem, you're maga.
I remember when Libertarians used to not agree to disagree on open borders and welfare, thus leaving the borders open and turning a blind eye to the never-ending, open-ended perma-welfare state that it engendered.
This libertarian is also willing to agree to disagree. Let's agree that there should be fewer immigration restrictions... just as soon as we zero out the welfare state.
Are you saying the US had open borders from 2016 to 2020? That is not even remotely true.
Government benefits are mostly limited to citizens. Stop lying about being a Libertarian.
I’m old enough to remember every time we weren’t given all of the story in order to drive the outrage machine.
Dishonest clickbait is a thing. Deal with it boomer.
Not many people know more about dishonesty then m.c.
Don't confuse the people in these comments with libertarians.
It's libertarian when Trump does it. Now Trump is looking to take a stake in quantum firms and dictate who gets to buy Warner Bros Discovery, which is libertarian as well.
The dashboard lists state and local police encounters with 5,966 suspected illegal immigrants since August 1. Of those, 3,052 were arrested on federal immigration charges by Florida state agencies. Another 1,753 people were arrested on local and state charges. However, the New Times reported that the database used to show 21 U.S. citizens were arrested and charged. Additionally, nine other U.S. citizens had encounters with law enforcement but were not arrested.
1) Never trust what the NYT says. Ever.
2) Wow, 21 + 9. Out of just shy of 6000. And not a one of them ended up in CECOT. Gosh, I just... what a harmless inconvenience. I guess we should just stop immigration enforcement completely.
Die in a fire, CJ.
Die in a fire, CJ.
Yeah;
Problem Solver: We can solve 80% of murders but ~0.6% of the time we'll mistakenly arrest the wrong person. Obviously we will release them but it will put us in a bit of a pickle as to whether we publish their arrest or take it down.
CJ: Well, then I guess we have to stop arresting people for murder.
Problem Solver: We can solve 80% of rapes but ~0.6% of the time we'll mistakenly arrest the wrong person. Obviously, again, we will release them but it will put us in a bit of a pickle as to whether we publish their arrest or take it down.
CJ: Well, then I guess we have to stop arresting people for rape.
Problem Solver: We can solve 80% of armed robberies, but ~0.6% of the time, we'll mistakenly arrest the wrong person. Obviously we will release them but it will put us in a bit of a pickle as to whether we publish their arrest or take it down. Lemme guess, stop enforcing the laws against armed robbery.
CJ: You said it, not me.
Problem Solver: It's beginning to seem like the real problem with dealing with 80% of murders, rapes, and armed robberies isn't the murderers, rapists, and armed robbers. It's you.
CJ: Help! Help! Somebody! Police state oppression! My 1A rights are being infringed! Help!? Somebody!? Anybody? No one?