California's Latest Dumb Gun Law is a Ban on Glocks
According to California lawmakers, Kamala Harris’s pistol is a potential machinegun.

Last year, then-Democratic presidential hopeful Kamala Harris insisted in a presidential debate that she is a gun owner and that she and her running mate, Tim Walz, were "not taking anybody's guns away, so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff." Later, she elaborated with 60 Minutes interviewer Bill Whitaker that she owned a Glock pistol that she had fired at the shooting range.
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Maybe Harris should have checked with lawmakers in California where she was once attorney general and which she represented in the U.S. Senate. That state just banned the sale of Glock pistols. True, state officials won't take away Kamala's pistol or those already owned by other Californians, but that's cold comfort for anybody looking to purchase new products from the popular gunmaker.
Kamala's Machine Gun
"Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law that bans the sale of new Glock guns in California," CBS News reported October 13. "At issue, the new Glock design allows the gun to be easily modified with a Lego-sized piece of plastic known as a 'Glock Switch' that can be 3-D printed to turn it into a fully automatic weapon."
According to California Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel (D–Encino), who introduced the legislation, "As parents and lawmakers, we refuse to stand idly by while our schools and communities are being threatened by illegal machine guns."
As you would expect from a legislator, this is nonsense. While machine guns are illegal in some states, California technically allows their possession by civilians, subject to (heavy) regulation, although it strictly limits the issuance of permits. Federal law also allows civilians to own machine guns "if the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986," again subject to heavy regulation. But Glock switches, like other devices that can convert a firearm to full automatic fire, have been illegal for years under federal law, as well as banned by me-too laws in a growing number of states.
Glock switches are add-on parts that are not commercially available (beware of bogus government-run websites that purport to sell them). They've captured media attention in recent years because these things run in trends. In the past, similar attention was given to drop-in sears which could turn some semiautomatic rifles fully automatic (shoestrings can do this with certain models). Those, too, are already illegal, but stories about them play to the appetite in certain corners of our society for scary gun stories. Now it's Glock's turn to be used as a punching bag by politicians.
According to Gabriel and his allies, they want Glock to change their guns so they can't be converted.
"If these companies won't redesign their weapons to protect our communities, California will hold them accountable," commented Assemblymember Catherine Stefani (D–San Francisco).
Another Law That Will Accomplish Nothing
But as CBS noted in its video report, Glock already redesigned its pistols to prevent insertion of switches; California hasn't approved the new design for sale. The preventive feature can be bypassed with DIY modifications—but the same is true of other firearms in a world where people build guns from scratch.
In fact, countries that tightly restrict firearms find that underground manufacturers quickly turn to submachine guns (pistol-caliber automatic weapons) because they're easy to make and they're ignoring the law anyway. "Blocks of steel bar and…tubing are really all that is required to turn these out in any small workshop used for bike and automotive repairs," the Impro Guns blog observed last month of automatic weapons used in a Jerusalem terrorist attack.
In other words, innovative people with benign intent and ill will alike can easily make and modify physical objects; and Gabriel, his fellow lawmakers who voted for this nonsensical legislation, and California Gov. Gavin Newsom are exploiting that fact to ban products of one of the most popular firearms manufacturers—or anything with a similar mechanism.
That's because the legislation reaches beyond one brand. The new law doesn't just ban Glock pistols, it defines a now-forbidden "'machinegun-convertible pistol' as any semiautomatic pistol with a cruciform trigger bar that can be readily converted by hand or with common household tools into a machinegun by the installation or attachment of a pistol converter, as specified."
Glock Is Stuck Between a Rock and a Hard Place
That means the reliable mechanism which Glock and its imitators use is now illegal for further sale in California. Glock has been flattered with imitators because the company has stuck with a good design. It has slightly changed that design to discourage conversion to full-automatic fire—though without winning approval in California. But even if it were to swap its current mechanism for something different, that new design would almost certainly still be modifiable into something that Assemblymember Gabriel would call a "machinegun." Of course, a new mechanism created to satisfy politicians' demands is unlikely to be as reliable as the existing one, risking Glock's reputation in return for minimal gain.
Gabriel and his fellow legislators claim to be motivated by crimes in which Glocks converted to automatic fire were used. But criminals are as subject to trends as politicians and headline writers. They learned to hold pistols sideways from Hollywood movies, even though it ruins aim, and they convert Glocks to automatic even though it's hard to control a pistol that's running through its magazine on one pull of the trigger because it's cool. They'll be on to something else next.
As has happened in other countries and is occurring in the U.S., that next thing is likely to be homemade guns built without regard for laws or the alleged concerns of politicians. If those guns are purpose-built submachine guns, they'll be more effective and dangerous than pistols converted to automatic fire.
So, California's Glock ban won't inconvenience criminals who already ignore the rules. Nor will Kamala Harris's California Highway Patrol security detail feel the effects, since police are exempted. Instead, Californians without special connections will be barred from purchasing a popular firearms brand.
Glock Ban Challenged in the Courts
It's too much to hope California lawmakers will admit that they're posturing for no good reason and legislating about matters they don't understand. Relief, if it comes, will arrive through a lawsuit brought by groups and individuals that advocate for self-defense rights. The lawsuit points out that the Supreme Court has held that "a law that bans the sale of—and correspondingly prevents citizens from acquiring—a weapon in common use violates the Second Amendment."
"Every American has a right to choose the tools they trust to defend their lives and liberty. We look forward to ending this insanely unconstitutional scheme just as we have many others," comments Firearms Policy Coalition President Brandon Combs.
Until the relief arrives, Californians should seriously consider just how much deference they want to pay to bad laws passed by ridiculous politicians.
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I’ve been fortunate to be a Glock 19 fan for more than 20 years, because in CA you could still get Gen 3’s basically un-fucked with to be sold here in The People’s Republic. Looks like Newsom and his screwball legislature took care of that. Nice work, assholes.
1. Eliminate this new law when found unconstitutional, by USSC if necessary.
2. Do the same with CA’s disgusting DOJ List of Approved Firearms and magazine capacity restrictions.
3. Prison sentences for legislators who knowingly violate the US Constitution. Fuck ‘em.
3. Prison sentences for legislators who knowingly violate the US Constitution. Fuck ‘em.
No. Deport them to Venezuela.
They’re probably not welcome there, too politically confused and Marxist even for the United Socialist Party of Venezuela.
Gun sales are 'interstate commerce' and, for that reason alone states should not be able to write laws that attempt to regulate that trade.
“…shall not be infringed” and yet here’s team D doing exactly that in Cali.
I hate to break it to the tards in California government but there are a whole lot of semi autos on the market that can be made into autos with simple tools and parts. No, I'm not going to tell anyone how as its a $250,000 fine and 10 years in Federal Pound You In The Ass Prison to illegally possess an automatic weapon.
This is 100% true. It's relatively easy to turn a gun into full auto.
Wait till they hear about FRT's.
Even better: Super Safety
So, there's two things to think about here.
1) An auto sear just wrecks your gun. The Glock, especially, was not designed to handle that kind of rate of fire. And, assuming you're not using some kind of extended mag, you'd basically be blowing your load in a matter of seconds - as opposed to targeted shooting. And, unless you're carrying a few pocketfuls of extra mags and are skilled at quick reload, no law-abiding concealed-carry citizen who has a firearm for self-defense would put such a destructive and wasteful aftermarket add-on to their pistol.
2) Like so many subversive products, these things are mainly coming from China. This is part of their asymmetric/hybrid war against the US. From #1, we can easily infer that the target audience of this product is gangs. China is, of course, empowering those gangs in order to destabilize the US. And this is one of their means.
So, California's dumb gun law is indeed a dumb gun law. And for anyone seriously contemplating the issue, the solution couldn't be simpler:
American gangs and the CCP are our mortal enemy, and we should be focused on killing them.
Your conspiracy isn't deep enough.
This stuff isn't originating in China. The American designers are the ones being doxxed, arrested, and prosecuted for posting the designs online. Which is how the DNC and the PRC wants The Great Leap Forward to work. The people bright enough and responsible enough to design things and defend themselves go to jail or locked in their homes and the useful idiots who totally don't have membership cards are free to mostly peacefully set up and enforce autonomous zones using tools designed by people better than themselves.
I'm impressed, you actually made sense for a whole paragraph before going all "Chiner! Chiner! Chiner!"
It wasn't immediately obvious to me from the text of the bill.
Is this just about the roster? Would used Glocks still be allowed for sale?
Will there continue to be a steady stream of police surplus glocks on the California market?
'New' in this context means new gen 3's - gen 4 and 5 are illegal in CA because they're not on the roster.
It's ironic because as pointed out the gen 5s are redesigned to deal with this issue but can't be sold in CA because they won't let new guns on the roster and the gen 3 *can't* be redesigned without submitting it for a new safety review to get back on the roster. Which CA won't do because the roster is effectively closed.
" . . . shall not be infringed."
California is a constitution free zone.
"At issue, the new Glock design allows the gun to be easily modified with a Lego-sized piece of plastic known as a 'Glock Switch' that can be 3-D printed to turn it into a fully automatic weapon."
Concerned Karens better ban Legos, plastic, and 3D printers, too. Out of an abundance of caution (and totalitarian urges).
Better ban all lego sized pieces of plastic just to be safe.
They already do.
'It's too much to hope California lawmakers will admit that they're posturing for no good reason and legislating about matters they don't understand.'
Uh, why else be a California lawmaker? Or any loud-mouth Democrat?
They just want to end the gang violence in the ghetto!
The first guns were invented in China around year 1000, so the invention isn't older than prostitution, but its close!
Less bang for the buck.
I am forced to drive though California quite often, and hypothetically if I forget to remove the magazines from my pistol, put them in a separate container, and lock the pistol in another separate container, and/or possess a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, then I have committed a felony. Maybe multiple felonies? Who the fuck knows anymore?
I have of course always followed California law (for all of the gov't interns and CIAAI-e-i-e-i-oh monitoring the Reason comment section), but since California still allows a bit of the 1A to be exercised: Fuck California and their stupid fake protections.
Ban or Bribe, those are the only two levers politicians pull anymore.
Glocks are very popular. From personal observation it seems that women are particularly apt to choose a Glock for protection. This law is anti-women. Or womyn?
It is also a useful weapon for the crook and the mugger and the carjacker and the gang member.
Who aren’t turning them in during gun bans and will have them regardless. If you want to carry only a rape whistle with you, you should be free to do so.
It is up to the police to arrest them!
Tell me you are a statist without telling me you are a statist.
California has a gang violence problem in its ghettoes.
That is why this law was passed.
No. It was passed because it is an attempt to ban probably the most popular handguns in the country. It tries to do this by hanging their hat on the extremely dangerous prong required for banning Gus, while ignoring the not popular prong.
Using the machine gun converter is plain stupid. You blow through an entire magazine in under two seconds, and might only hit what you are aiming at with the first shot, with the remainder guaranteed to miss. Maybe 3 seconds with an extended (~33 round) magazine, but probably 2 seconds. And if the shooter is caught with this conversion, he faces almost automatic attempted 2nd degree (depraved heart) murder charges, even if he misses everyone. Far, far, more effective to aim your single shots - even if shooting sideways gangster style.
For those interested, Glock does sell a select fire G17 - the G18. Gen 4 and 5 are illegal on the civilian market, since they were manufactured after the federal machine gun registry was closed. They are nice because modern G18s are compensated. They are only available for military and LEO use in this country. There are a small number of Gen 3 G18s on the federal machine gun registry, but cost an arm and a leg, due to their rarity. They have a “giggle” switch, and a cyclic rate of 1200 rounds per minute (30 rounds in 1.5 seconds).
I'm betting the reliability of any gun fitted with these "switches" probably goes to shit.
I once got a chance to fire a G18 and I can confirm it was effectively uncontrollable. Even fitted with a shoulder stock and firing the shortest bursts I could manage, I was still clipping branches off the tree I was standing under with every pull of the trigger. I'll stick to shooting a little slower but actually hitting what I aim at, thanks just the same.
So, as usual, addressing the visible symptoms in a useless and superficial way (the gangs aren't buying their glocks from reputable California dealers) and doing nothing about the actual problems.
No, just typical "Do something!' bullshit.
Because "equal protection under the law" really means "rules for thee but not for Me."