The Constitution Does Not Allow the President To Unilaterally Blow Suspected Drug Smugglers to Smithereens
If the Trump administration wants to use military power, it should seek authorization from Congress, says Sen. Rand Paul.

Somewhere off the coast of Venezuela, a speedboat with 11 people on board is blown to smithereens. Vice President J.D. Vance announces that "killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best use of our military."
When challenged that killing citizens without due process is a war crime, the vice president responded that he "didn't give a shit."
Sometimes in fits of anger, loud voices will say they don't care about niceties such as due process—they just want to kill bad guys. For a brief moment, all of us may share that anger and may even embrace revenge or retribution.
But over 20,000 people are murdered in the U.S. each year, and yet somehow we find a way to a dispassionate dispensation of justice that includes legal representation for the accused and jury trial.
Why? Because sometimes the accused is actually not guilty.
As passions subside, a civilized people should ask: To be clear, the people bombed to smithereens were guilty, right?
If anyone gave a you-know-what about justice, perhaps those in charge of deciding whom to kill might let us know their names, present proof of their guilt, and show evidence of their crimes.
The administration has maintained that the people blown to smithereens were members of Tren de Aragua and therefore narcoterrorists.
Certainly, then, if we know they belong to a particular gang, then someone must surely have known their names before they were blown to smithereens?
At the very least, the government should explain how the gang came to be labelled as terrorists. U.S. law defines a terrorist as someone who uses "premeditated, politically motivated violence…against non-combatants." Since the U.S. policy is now to blow people to smithereens if they are suspected of being in a terrorist gang, then maybe someone could take the time to explain the evidence of their terrorism?
Critics of this whole terrorist labelling charade, such as Matthew Petti at Reason, explain that: "In practice, that means that a 'terrorist' is whoever the executive branch decides to label one."
While no law dictates such, once people are labelled as terrorists, they appear to no longer be eligible for any sort of due process.
The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd, at this point, will loudly voice their opinion that people in international waters whom we label as terrorists deserve no due process. Vice President Vance asserts: "There are people who are bringing—literal terrorists—who are bringing deadly drugs into our country."
Which, of course, raises the questions:
- Who labelled them and with what evidence?
- What are their names, and what specifically shows their membership and guilt?
The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd also conveniently ignores the fact that death is generally not the penalty for drug smuggling.
The mindless trolls that occupy much of the internet whine that such questions show weakness or commiseration with drug pushers who are killing our kids. A ludicrous assertion to most sentient humans, but one I fear requires a response.
International law and norms have always granted due process to individuals on the high seas not actively involved in combat. U.S. maritime laws explain in detail the level of force and the escalation of force allowed in the interdiction of drugs.
Hundreds of ships are stopped and searched. The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd might stop to ponder that a good percentage of the ships searched actually turn out not to be drug smugglers.
Coast Guard statistics show that about one in four interdictions finds no drugs. So far, the administration has blown up four boats suspected of drug smuggling. Statistically speaking, there's a good chance that one of these boats may not have had any drugs on board.
If the U.S. policy is to blow all suspected ships to smithereens, should that policy really be extolled as "the highest and best use of our military?"
Jake Romm puts the dilemma of whom to designate as a terrorist into sharp relief: "The hollowness and malleability of the term [terrorism] means that it can be applied to groups regardless of their actual conduct and regardless of their actual ideology. It admits only a circular definition…that a terrorist is someone who carries out terrorist acts, and a terrorist act is violence carried out by a terrorist. Conversely, if someone is killed, it is because they are a terrorist, because to be a terrorist means to be killable."
Few independent legal scholars argue the strikes are legal. Even John Yoo—a former deputy assistant attorney general under President George W. Bush, who infamously authored the Bush administration's legal justification for "enhanced interrogation techniques"—has criticized the Trump administration's justification for the strikes, saying: "There has to be a line between crime and war. We can't just consider anything that harms the country to be a matter for the military. Because that could potentially include every crime."
Jon Duffy, a retired Navy Captain, eloquently summarizes our current moment: "A republic that allows its leaders to kill without law, to wage war without strategy, and to deploy troops without limit is a republic in deep peril. Congress will not stop it. The courts will not stop it. That leaves those sworn not to a man, but to the Constitution."
Congress must not allow the executive branch to become judge, jury, and executioner. President Thomas Jefferson understood the framers' intention that the president defer to Congress on matters of offensive war. That's why Jefferson, when faced with the belligerence of the Barbary pirates in 1801, recognized that he was "unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense."
Jefferson wanted the authority to act offensively against the pirates, but he respected the intentional checks placed on the executive within the Constitution. Only after Congress passed an "Act for the Protection of Commerce and Seamen of the United States, against the Tripolitan Cruisers" in February 1802, did he order offensive naval operations. If the Trump administration wants to use military power, it should seek authorization from Congress. And Congress must have the courage as the people's representatives to reassert its constitutional duty to decide matters of war and peace.
This article is based on a speech Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) gave on the Senate floor Wednesday while introducing a War Powers Act resolution, which he cosponsored.
The American people do not want to be dragged into a forever war without public debate or a vote.
I took to the Senate floor to defend what the Constitution demands: deliberation before war.
Watch my remarks???? pic.twitter.com/eq5fGvmqFu
— Senator Rand Paul (@SenRandPaul) October 8, 2025
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"Because I said so.", is not an acceptable answer to a law abiding society.
Oooh, someone lit the batshit signal. Pretty soon the Trumpies will be in here claiming Rand Paul is not a libertarian, with the batshit implication that Trump is the most libertarian President evar!
They may as well have lit the JFree signal, given his hatred of everything Ron and Rand Paul.
No, Rand is the single most consistent Senator in the Senate. Even if you do not AGREE, you know exactly what his thinking is because he does not change his beliefs without a significant change in the circmstances.
I cannot bring myself to CARE if boats get blown up.
Yeah, exactly this. Rand is one of the only people in DC with actual values and any idea what's in the constitution.
That said, I know he is right on principle here, but I can't muster many shits to give in this particular instance.
Rand Paul voted with the democrats on the latest budget battle, so, yeah, Paul has as much credibility as the National Enquirer.
Perhaps you should look into WHY he voted the way he did. Obeisance to Trump is not high in his priority list, nor mine, but if it floats your boat, ha ha, go ahead and bow in his general direction. He won't bow back.
I'm pretty sure the Reason style guide says "libertarian-leaning Conservative Sen. Rand Paul (R)".
It was ok under Obama to assassinate a US citizen without his due process over alleged ties to a terror network. Should have impeached and confirmed then.
TdA does more than smuggle drugs; drugs should not be illegal and should be made so while simultaneously eliminating all forms of govt welfare.
Not a fan of this. These weren’t Somali pirates attacking.
"It was ok under Obama to assassinate a US citizen without his due process over alleged ties to a terror network. Should have impeached and confirmed then."
Who and when?
Anwar al-Awlaki
30 September 2011
It doesn't allow the president to unilaterally drone bomb weddings either. Define allow?
To be clear, the people bombed to smithereens were guilty, right?
Yep.
The blow-them-to-smithereens crowd also conveniently ignores the fact that death is generally not the penalty for drug smuggling.
"Generally."
We're making some exceptions here. Let's hope they become the rule.
Look Rand, this is very simple. Y'all let the problem get out of control. It's no different than dispatching the National Guard to Portland or throwing everyone scurrying at the sight of cherries at Home Depot into Alligator Alcatraz.
We're past preventative medicine here. It's triage time. And if that means amputating an arm in the field, then Doc Sawbones is ready to do his job. Messy and unpleasant as it may be.
You - YOU - helped make this mess. It makes one wonder whether A) you made it on purpose in order to campaign on being against fixing it; or B) you let it be made because you just friggin' hate America and Americans.
Bomb the boats. It's no different than Hamas hiding in schools and hospitals. They're exploiting our virtue and morality. Enough. Bomb them. And then lament the collateral damage. If any.
It's even simpler: no one knows if they really were drug smugglers, immigrant smugglers, or anything smugglers. No one knows where it was heading. It was not in US territorial waters. It was not in a war zone.
It was straight-up murder.
I don't think you're giving MILINT enough credit.
We live in the age of technology and total surveillance, SGT. They know how many times a day you jack off to hentai. You think they don't know who's on a narcoterrorist drug boat?
I don't think you're giving MILINT enough credit.
*Any* INT.
The implosion of the Oceangate submersible, more than 2 miles below the surface was heard practically in real time by the US Navy passive sonar station some 900 miles away, but the multi-engine speed boat cutting through waves in international waters could've been any unknown Venezuelan tourist or fisherman out headed to their favorite spot that just happened to have a drone flying over it. Nobody knows!
Yeah, hopefully not Bidens' advisors who droned that poor Iraqi family for revenge of the pullout disaster. That was classic military intelligence at extra retard level.
And the media really thought we should like Biden....
Also ignore all those keys of drugs that were swept up after. Total coincidence.
I don't think you understand innocent until proven guilty or trials.
It was straight-up murder.
Name the President or General impeached, dismissed, or convicted for green lighting the operation that ended with murder.
Even troops on the battlefield, guilty of no-shit murder get a court-martial under the UCMJ.
The argument that illegal immigrants are owed full citizenship rights and equal due process by virtue of being ambulatory but no one in the chain of any military command anywhere is owed even a UCMJ-level of presumption of innocence or evidentiary finding even for events in international waters is certainly an interesting libertarian take.
I'm not saying you're wrong but (forgive the conspiratorial bent, but I survived COVID, the destruction of NS1 and 2, and The Ghost of Kiev) do we even have evidence that this isn't pure fabrication?
These weren't illegal immigrants inside our borders.
"We're past preventative medicine here. It's triage time. And if that means amputating an arm in the field, then Doc Sawbones is ready to do his job. Messy and unpleasant as it may be."
Nah. We still have this document you might find inconvenient called the Constitution. It controls all. Check Amendments 5 and 14.
What Israel does is their issue. We shouldn't be financing their war anyway.
Keep at it Rand. Got to end this insanity of an imperial presidency who wipes their ass with the Constitution while an idle corrupt Congress willingly sits back and watchs from a DC $500 plate fundraiser.
Right...you'll have to convince Congress to do their job. They have sold out the American people and enabled an imperial Presidency for decades. But the political class likes it that way. Trump is an openly corrupt caricature of what the Swamp is and the Swamp hates him for exposing them and flaunts it in their face.
Good luck. They're the only people in government who want LESS power. So long as they can cash their checks, engage in insider trading, and feign outrage each time they're in the minority.
I'm glad someone with more credibility here than me is also saying this! Keep at it SaGN!
If any of these people were Americans, I have a huge problem with this. Just as I had a huge problem with Obama droning Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16-year-old son.
And that the fact that I am on the opposite side of AT, makes me doubly sure this is wrong.
If any of these people were Americans
Where's their family? Employers? Co-workers? Attorneys?
I don't disagree with the "If these people were Americans...", but this feels a lot like the "Collateral Murder" video (or the even more retarded NYT story about SEALs stabbing Nork fishermen to death) where journalists are embedded with dudes carrying AK-47s in a warzone "Just to film a humvee under attack." except... no journalists or claims of journalists or citizens or wahtever.
And how do you know none of them were Americans? They're dead, Jim, fish food. That's the point.
As passions subside, a civilized people should ask: To be clear, the people bombed to smithereens were guilty, right?
With all due respect (bang up job on Fauci and Comey BTW), to be clear, we're all sure Qasem Soleimani was guilty, right Senator?
Rand Paul is a leftist Marxist with TDS.
Did you get drunk and confuse yourself for Rand Paul again?
If it can be proven without a shadow of doubt the Venezuelan ship had drugs and was in the US territorial waters, yes, the Commander-in-Chief can exercise his right to defend the US with all the toys available as other POTUS have done.
They were in international waters.
Look, I'm about 95% of the way with you, Senator. But exactly what part of "international law" are you claiming this violates? Cite the treaty name and specific article of that treaty, please.
Because no nation has come forward to claim that these were vessels under their flag*. And provisions of international law limiting what a nation-state may do to a vessel without nationality are, to my knowledge, utterly nonexistent.
But I'm willing to be educated. So. Cite the treaty and article thereof, please. Or, you know, cut the bullshit line about "international law".
*I am currently discounting the Colombian President's latest social media post about "indications" that one of the boats was Colombian. Even if/when Colombia formally claims one of the specific boats, that will still leave the others as stateless vessels.
Yeah. The citation of international law is laughable. Even if they claim Venezuela, the treaties there dont cover it, maduro is even under US indictment with TdA declared an FTO.
Rand sounds like democrats putting non existent global laws above the US.
I hope others in Congress are also grabbing their nuts and preparing to do something that resembles the job they are supposed to do under the Constitution. Because your institution has less than a month before Rubio gets the US into a full on regime-change war.
That's the sole purpose of the US sinking what are probably fishing boats. The sole reason why el salvador naranja has already deployed 7000 troops, eight warships, and P-8's and F-35's to the area. That's not enough for a full on invasion - but it's more than enough to begin creating its own momentum.
But over 20,000 people are murdered in the U.S. each year, and yet somehow we find a way to a dispassionate dispensation of justice
Actually, we do a pretty shit job of dispensing justice for murder. Almost half of all murders go unpunished and it doesn't get better for other crimes.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/194213/crime-clearance-rate-by-type-in-the-us/
Only 8 years for murdering a 6 year old if you live in a blue state.